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Penny Arcade - Comic - The Metagrift
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Penny Arcade - Comic - The Metagrift
Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.
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They had no idea, that's why they went to his talk in a hotel conference room and bought his DVDs and booksets.
I'm sure that will be fine.
All I could find was a Kay Hansen who, I am reasonably confident, could fold you six times and just take your money if she wanted it.
For some reason I can't find the short being discussed in the above youtube, but if you don't want to watch it it's just Gary Vee saying he swallows every piece of gum he takes into his mouth because of "efficiency"
But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
- Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
The most confusing thing here is that the guy who is making fun of Gary Vee is the one who is dressed like the guy in the comic.
This confused me also but I think it's just that the youths tend to dress this way and Gary Vee also dresses this way to show he is hip with the youths.
Here's an actual picture of him dressing this way:
Edit: I was hoping Tycho's post would provide more context and it does in a general way but doesn't point to the specific grifter in question. Still I think this grifter is as good as any. HIs description of this breed of grifter is a good one.
But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
- Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
I guess Gwenyth "Goop" Paltrow or any of the Kardashian/Jenner tribe don't qualify because.....????
I mean, they mentioned LuLaRoe in a comic like a month ago. I’d think that qualified.
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Yeah, but we’re responding to a comment Jerry makes in the blog post about not having “seen the distaff side” of this phenomenon. I’m saying that he not only has, he’s commented on it.
Not "distaff side," "distaff manifestation." Specifically, a distaff manifestation of this grift. LuLaRoe is a different type of grift.
That said, I'm not at all familiar with the specific type depicted in the comment, and I kind of resent Tycho's implication that I should be.
Powers &8^]
As an older guy who still wears hoodies when it's cold, and beanies when it's colder, I feel personally attacked.
Now where did I leave my skateboard.
Yeah, I may not be giving Jerry his due especially when I mistake a forum post’s wording for his. I do think that MLMs target a related set of impulses, though.
In addition to all that:
As far as Jerry's "distaff manifestation", its presented as a truism and that says to me that Jerry just never noticed the people not directing their grift at him. Which I get, we're all in some ways blinded to experiences not our own, and Penny Arcade is not known for communicating about the world outside of its creators' distinct experiences. But it does irk a bit when the writing is clearly trying to communicate something of value and it just has this ignorant (and unwarranted) declaration casting a shadow over the rest of it. It detracts from the value
Again, though, he's talking about this particular kind of grift. All the examples that have been given do not appear to be this particular genre, and there are so many instances in this genre.
If you feel there are, please give examples.
Would the distaff manifestation be women manipulating men with "distant, cruel, or useless fathers". Or perhaps women who manipulate men with "distant, cruel, useless mothers". Or women manipulating women in those same forms? Preying upon insecurity (real or imagined) is perhaps the starting place of all manipulation, and is available to people of any gender. Insecurities stemming from poor parenting aren't exactly in short supply either, as childhood trauma is often an unnoticed behavioral key to our actions as adults. Jerry states he hasn't ever seen such manipulations performed by women. And the only way that's true is if Jerry's experience of things is limited or he didn't recognize what he saw when he saw it.
Which, again, undercuts what he has to say in the next sentence:
Again, please give examples to these distaff grifters that you feel are the equivalent of the Gary Vee type of grifter. That will really cut through a lot of fluffy argumentation.
Lick this
This what?
Distaff!
Surely a crude retort is more likely used by an alchemist.
But I will admit I know of one magic user that employs a distaff.
I don't even know what a Gary Vee type of grifter is? He swallows gum for efficiency, apparently. Like all the things Jerry lists in his post are things loads of the Seminar set of grifters incorporate, except maybe crypto. Nope, I checked youtube, women do these crypto seminars too. Annd I have poisoned my search results forever. Sigh.
I honestly don't know what you're asking for. Women grift too. To believe they don't is naive at best. That's my point. If I have one
You said Jerry making an ignorant declaration that there weren't female grifters using the same tactics against female victims as there are of this type. Did I get that wrong?
It seems weird that you're saying Jerry is making an ignorant declaration, when you're ignorant of the tactics used by this sort of grifter. How can you judge that he's wrong?
Edit: One thing I think you're getting hung up on is what they're selling. It's not that, it's how they're selling it.
I would say Elizabeth Holmes is a stark contrast to that sentiment.
But scammers lean into cultural stereotypes. And investment fraud (which is the leading type of fraud is perpetrated by Men over women about 70/30 (numbers get a bit fuzzy). Romance scams the numbers seam to be reversed.
But under reporting is very common, and so good statistics are not readily available.
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I assume the how is by preying on the insecurities left in the wake of poor parenting, which I already addressed. Clearly I don't understand what it is that you and Jerry believe is unique to only the Gary Vee's of the world. And not in a "prove to me" kind of way, I sincerely see nothing in what Jerry wrote or what has been said in this thread that isn't part and parcel to grifting as a whole, much less a certain subset of this. So unless I can begin to understand what sets Jerry's definition apart (and I currently do not), then my opinion is that Jerry is wrong in defining this form of grift as "male only"
No. No no no no no. Sorry, it's just getting frustrating saying the same thing repeatedly. The whole point Jerry made (that has been disputed) was in the approach used by the grifter.
You addressed it by making an unsupported assertion. You didn't cite a single person who is a female grifter that preys on the insecurities left in the wake of poor parenting. Now, Jerry didn't either, and it's totally valid to disagree with him. He might be wrong! But to call him ignorant when you can't even point to a single example, and aren't even familiar with the male example in question seems to be going out on a limb.