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    The JudgeThe Judge The Terwilliger CurvesRegistered User regular
    The economy is fine, just fine.

    Completely unrelated, a current shot of me and my credit wallet:

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    AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    Maybe an Armor to protect Sunspot or is that +2 power loss not worth the safety?

    It is and it's not, having done it a lot. You trade Killmonger protection for a giant red "put a big thing here" sign.

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    Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    edited March 2023
    This made me laugh
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    Guy kept spamming emotes after each Goblin
    ( I sent his Hobgoblin back)

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    spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    Oh I'm a little late to posting this but there's an invitational tournament that's been releasing VODs for about a week. Pretty good games, well casted overall.

    https://youtu.be/cJjk-jU6x1I

    What a lineup! Clockwise, left to right:

    Joss Whedon
    Giorgio Tsoukalos
    Justin Timberlake
    Liam O'Brien (in disguise for some reason?)
    DEN
    Kelsey Grammer
    Lil Dickey
    Bro Science

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    411Randle411Randle Librarian Oook.Registered User regular
    I really feel sorry for Move decks. Especially after I beat one that even had K'un-Lun pop as a location with my tossed-together Cer3bro deck. They really can't ever move to the right, can they?

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    akjakakjak Thera Spooky GymRegistered User regular
    edited March 2023
    Armor is such a good tech card anyway. Fixes a lot of locations, and also screws over destroy decks.

    Infinaut is also good anti-Leech tech.

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    spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    411Randle wrote: »
    I really feel sorry for Move decks. Especially after I beat one that even had K'un-Lun pop as a location with my tossed-together Cer3bro deck. They really can't ever move to the right, can they?

    You can Cloak your way to the right on turn 4 or 5 with good play, and Dr Strange rightward as well. It’s all going left eventually though.

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    SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    Made it to infinite before the patch and whatever meta shakeup attempts to unroot thanos.

    Final 4 cubes came from a kang-galactus deck just out there donating cubes

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    I'm not convinced the matchmaking changes will make it easier to get into infinite - for every sweaty infinite player I played against - you got someone donating cubes like this just showing off the money they've spent on the game or someone trying to make move decks work.

    Obligatory you made infinite - here are your leech boosters you degenerate screenshot

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    Most of 70-95 was thanos - though I think I played more of the killmonger-deathwave version of thanos then the standard list.

    The standard list is very consistent - but everyone knows what the deck is doing and capable of - and like it has been said previously when facing it - most ppl are just trying to give thanos decks only 1-2 cubes. Any snap with the slightest edge or favorable location and folks bounce. So to try cubes I'd be snapping before dropping lockjaw and stones to hook ppl - but the problem with casino decks is even when favored you can just pull junk.

    killmonger/death thanos is more likely to brick - but you had a better change of catching ppl off guard because the thanos list is so standardized at this point

    Played a little bit of darkhawk sera from 95-97 after pulling darkhawk from a cache - it's a strong deck, stopped during the pegasus hot location since sera decks are pretty efficient at filling the board as is.

    Now I get to play hot trash the rest of the month - it's great

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    akjakakjak Thera Spooky GymRegistered User regular
    I'm not good at the Thanos deck, or casino decks in general. I play it when I have "Play 1-cost cards" and that's about it.

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited March 2023
    SeGaTai wrote: »
    Made it to infinite before the patch and whatever meta shakeup attempts to unroot thanos.
    Final 4 cubes came from a kang-galactus deck just out there donating cubes

    5hyzo5j593nr.png

    I'm not convinced the matchmaking changes will make it easier to get into infinite - for every sweaty infinite player I played against - you got someone donating cubes like this just showing off the money they've spent on the game or someone trying to make move decks work.

    Obligatory you made infinite - here are your leech boosters you degenerate screenshot

    itszqfs62sk8.png

    Most of 70-95 was thanos - though I think I played more of the killmonger-deathwave version of thanos then the standard list.

    The standard list is very consistent - but everyone knows what the deck is doing and capable of - and like it has been said previously when facing it - most ppl are just trying to give thanos decks only 1-2 cubes. Any snap with the slightest edge or favorable location and folks bounce. So to try cubes I'd be snapping before dropping lockjaw and stones to hook ppl - but the problem with casino decks is even when favored you can just pull junk.

    I've just been tapping the avatar to check deck sizes, so I don't know how many people snapping before dropping lockjaw and stones is going to hook.

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    SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    I meant your options for snapping are after you drop lockjaw - and you get to see you got a good roll - in which case they usually leave when you snap - or you can snap right before dropping lockjaw and stones - which felt pretty random on outcome - regardless of if they stayed or not.

    So while it is a very oppressive deck - it was rare to get a big cube win

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    ChaosHatChaosHat Hop, hop, hop, HA! Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    akjak wrote: »
    I'm not good at the Thanos deck, or casino decks in general. I play it when I have "Play 1-cost cards" and that's about it.

    Thanos isn't really a casino. Or I guess it is in the sense that the house always win.

    If it was actually random, it wouldn't be very good. That tells you that when you gamble you're very very likely to come out ahead.

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    Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    edited March 2023
    I figured they meant the stones get used as Lockjaw food mostly

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    akjakakjak Thera Spooky GymRegistered User regular
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    akjak wrote: »
    I'm not good at the Thanos deck, or casino decks in general. I play it when I have "Play 1-cost cards" and that's about it.

    Thanos isn't really a casino. Or I guess it is in the sense that the house always win.

    If it was actually random, it wouldn't be very good. That tells you that when you gamble you're very very likely to come out ahead.

    Wins seem to really rely on "have Lockjaw, and then have Good Things Come Out, Not Just More Stones", and that never seems to go well for me.

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited March 2023
    Would have thought you need Mind Stone as well, to guarantee good things come out.

    And I just got knocked back 8 cubes by a rank 100 player on a forced Zola 50/50.
    I might eventually get 80, maybe.

    Been playing Thor but what also has Infinaut in it:
    # (0) Wasp
    # (1) Sunspot
    # (2) Psylocke
    # (2) Cable
    # (3) Lockjaw
    # (3) Thor
    # (5) Magik
    # (5) Aero
    # (5) Jane Foster Mighty Thor
    # (6) America Chavez
    # (6) She-Hulk
    # (6) The Infinaut
    #
    eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTG9ja2phdyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQWVybyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQW1lcmljYUNoYXZleiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiVGhvciJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQ2FibGUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlN1bnNwb3QifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlBzeWxvY2tlIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTaGVIdWxrIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJJbmZpbmF1dCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTWFnaWsifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkphbmVGb3N0ZXIifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ildhc3AifV19
    #
    # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.

    Seems to be good at just dropping too much power for Thanos to handle.

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    ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    edited March 2023
    akjak wrote: »
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    akjak wrote: »
    I'm not good at the Thanos deck, or casino decks in general. I play it when I have "Play 1-cost cards" and that's about it.

    Thanos isn't really a casino. Or I guess it is in the sense that the house always win.

    If it was actually random, it wouldn't be very good. That tells you that when you gamble you're very very likely to come out ahead.

    Wins seem to really rely on "have Lockjaw, and then have Good Things Come Out, Not Just More Stones", and that never seems to go well for me.

    Key is to play space stone last, so you can move lockjaw next turn and do it all over again.

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    akjakakjak Thera Spooky GymRegistered User regular
    edited March 2023
    Reddit was totally gleeful all day today assuming it was balance patch tonight/tomorrow, but I don't think that's really this week is it? Seems like we'd have patch notes, leaked or otherwise, if that were the case.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they let this season finish before balance patching, especially as it has all those ranked mode changes.

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    akjak wrote: »
    Reddit was totally gleeful all day today assuming it was balance patch tonight/tomorrow, but I don't think that's really this week is it? Seems like we'd have patch notes, leaked or otherwise, if that were the case.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they let this season finish before balance patching, especially as it has all those ranked mode changes.

    The current thought is the balance patch drops on Tuesday sometime. There's no way in hell they let this meta continue for longer than this week.

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    ChaosHatChaosHat Hop, hop, hop, HA! Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    akjak wrote: »
    Reddit was totally gleeful all day today assuming it was balance patch tonight/tomorrow, but I don't think that's really this week is it? Seems like we'd have patch notes, leaked or otherwise, if that were the case.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they let this season finish before balance patching, especially as it has all those ranked mode changes.

    We've only had one leaked patch notes and it was because that patch was last minute delayed. The ranked system changes are all mostly for next season, or later.

    Patch is most likely sometime today (I am saying today at 9:21 AM US Eastern time. Your today may vary based on location.)

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    spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    Patch happened, or at least I got bumped up 5 ranks late last night. :)

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    SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    edited March 2023
    https://marvelsnapzone.com/marvel-snap-march-21-2023-patch-notes/

    Patch here - they really don't want to fix a bunch of issues with these cards - so enjoy getting leeched

    Thanos 6/11 -> 6/10

    Space stone moves to location - not away from location (as suggested here earlier)

    Quinjet can't reduce below 1

    Thanos nerfs done

    I see no problems here peasants

    Red Skull 5/15 +2 ongoing to enemy -> 5/13 +1 ongoing to enemy

    (Red skull buff - Shuri nerf?)

    She Hulk 6/10 -> 6/9

    Aero 5/7 -> 5/8 - only pulls last played card

    Still counters Galactus - so you kinda still need it - but going to interesting if still as prevalent or what 5s take it's place

    Mystique, Absorbing man, taskmaster all need the target to still be in play to work - so Shuri nerf



    Blah, just blah - just do a real balance rework - adjust leech




    They added in a bunch of UI effects for playing out the Thanos stones - deck going nowhere - so shiny

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    Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Not a doctor Tree townRegistered User regular
    SeGaTai wrote: »

    She Hulk 6/10 -> 6/9

    Nice.

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    Yeah, I'm not 100% sold on these changes. Definitely nerfs to the strongest decks, but I don't know if they'll be enough.

    Getting to Shang Chi a Red Skull to deny a Taskmaster is great, but that's assuming you have priority. She Hulk -> Taskmaster often doesn't have priority since they skip turn 5, allowing for 18 power twice. That will probably be the safer evolution of Shuri decks.

    Lockjaw not getting changed still allows for degenerate Thanos decks to thrive. They're definitely slower from the Quinjet nerf, but Leech can still come down on 4 if you played the Time Stone play prior. The Space Stone change is great and just what was needed.

    Still though, Lockjaw is the problem here. A much bigger deal than Thanos or Leech.

    But who knows? Maybe it's enough? Not holding my breath though.

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Honestly the Aero nerf almost makes Shuri more powerful all on its own; She-Hulk Taskmaster is now a safer line and in general you can get your T5 Tasky played safely with Titania backup. You might lose more shootouts but you can easily make Aero a non-factor now.

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    edited March 2023
    Also Red Skull is just fairly overstatted now in the base case, not that a big dumb 5 drop is enough on its own but you can just cleanly throw him in most decks if you want.

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    SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    edited March 2023
    Shuri-Red skull goes from being any of

    30 power to 26 power (0 opponents)
    28 power to 25 power (1 opponents)
    26 power to 24 power (2 opponents)
    24 power to 23 power (3 opponents)
    22 power to 22 power (4 opponents) ???

    So the taskmaster follow up won't be as strong and suspect to shang if you manage to be behind priority after dropping 20+ power - but less worry about aero?

    Really feels like if you thought shuri was preventing you from winning games there is no change

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    Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Yeah but any weaker and he's just a shitty hulk for one less cost and meh, I think I'm mostly positive on these changes especially the Aero one thank god

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Yeah but any weaker and he's just a shitty hulk for one less cost and meh, I think I'm mostly positive on these changes especially the Aero one thank god

    I mean, 5 vs. 6 is a huge distinction, he shouldn't be putting out Hulk Stats.

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    Zombie GandhiZombie Gandhi Registered User regular
    What I get from this is that I should probably get that Shuri I have pinned as she wasn't nerfed into the ground?

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    Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Not a doctor Tree townRegistered User regular
    If anyone was series 3 complete but missing Orka/M’Baku/Attuma you can get 1 of those for free now.

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    SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    Saw it brought up on twitter - but the quinjet change hurts a bunch of mediocre decks that might have used collector or moongirl/hood - just because they couldn't figure out how to just code the stones as starting in the thanos deck for the purpose of quinjet

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    Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Not a doctor Tree townRegistered User regular
    So if someone had a series 3 pinned in the shop, is it still there after the change?

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    SeGaTai wrote: »
    Saw it brought up on twitter - but the quinjet change hurts a bunch of mediocre decks that might have used collector or moongirl/hood - just because they couldn't figure out how to just code the stones as starting in the thanos deck for the purpose of quinjet

    Reducing cost to 0 is a big problem and they explicitly note that space is not one they want to exist and call those decks out in particular. Assuming dev incompetence instead of the clear intent they stated is kinda dumb, but what else to expect from the community that insists you can hack your way to victory with one weird MMR manipulation trick

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    Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    Yeah but any weaker and he's just a shitty hulk for one less cost and meh, I think I'm mostly positive on these changes especially the Aero one thank god

    I mean, 5 vs. 6 is a huge distinction, he shouldn't be putting out Hulk Stats.

    Considering how easy it is to lower cost, I don't see that big a difference in most games

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    Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Skull is basically a -4 to his 13 so if you're playing smart you have to assume he's basically 9 power wherever you place him and pray they don't stack the lane with some bullshit

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    The JudgeThe Judge The Terwilliger CurvesRegistered User regular
    Little surprised the update didn't come with any Thanks For Sticking With Us Through That Meta gift.

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Hmmm... Galactus popped up in the shop for me. I'm still 2k tokens short of him... I don't know if I really want Galactus, though... I feel like I'd rather skip him and wait for Wong, which is the last card I can really feel myself lacking. Is that silly? How often to pool 5's show up in the shop?

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    akjakakjak Thera Spooky GymRegistered User regular
    Well, a lot more often once you’re done with series 3.

    Wasn’t the token shop update supposed to be in this? Mine looks the same.

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    Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    edited March 2023
    It is, there should be a new section under the usual token shop bit with the free series 3 card

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    Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Not a doctor Tree townRegistered User regular
    akjak wrote: »
    Well, a lot more often once you’re done with series 3.

    Wasn’t the token shop update supposed to be in this? Mine looks the same.

    S3 might be out of rotation in the shop?

    The 1x per season S3 freebie is right below, for anyone not done with it. (Get to choose 1 per season and the available card changes every 8 hours)

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