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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    Jimmy Rave is like "it's been done"

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    Ricochet wiping his butt from the front just reminds me of that Popping Dogs and Talking Hogs bit about whether interviewees wipe sitting or standing.

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  • Andy JoeAndy Joe We claim the land for the highlord! The AdirondacksRegistered User regular
    Excalibur sounds hoarse on Dynamite tonight. Makes sense, AEW taped a bunch of TV all at once at Hammerstein.

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    He didn't work Final Battle or Collision, though.

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  • hailtothekalehailtothekale Registered User regular
    Yearly reminder that Christmas Bounty is actually an incredible tv Christmas movie.

    Also as someone who has watched this movie over and over again for 11 years, it's an incredible reminder how much Miz's acting really leveled up once he and Maryse got "Miz & Mrs."

  • Dex DynamoDex Dynamo Registered User regular
    The fundamental problem with the 2013 ABC Family made for TV Christmas movie Christmas Bounty (2013) is it is a movie where you are supposed to root for The Miz to reunite with his ex, but they wrote her new boyfriend at every single step to be the nicest, chillest, most enthusiastic dude possible

    This dude discovers his fiancee is actually a bounty hunter wanted by the mob, with a family and an ex he never knew about, and his response at every step is "Hey cool, I actually hate my Manhattan upper crust family and I am extremely onboard for this"

    And so by the end of the movie every time I watch every year, I am always, ALWAYS, rooting for this guy over the Miz

  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    Just think of it like that angle where they kept trying to make Miz the protege of Ric Flair and everyone hated it.

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  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    Dex Dynamo wrote: »
    The fundamental problem with the 2013 ABC Family made for TV Christmas movie Christmas Bounty (2013) is it is a movie where you are supposed to root for The Miz to reunite with his ex, but they wrote her new boyfriend at every single step to be the nicest, chillest, most enthusiastic dude possible

    This dude discovers his fiancee is actually a bounty hunter wanted by the mob, with a family and an ex he never knew about, and his response at every step is "Hey cool, I actually hate my Manhattan upper crust family and I am extremely onboard for this"

    And so by the end of the movie every time I watch every year, I am always, ALWAYS, rooting for this guy over the Miz

    Is that a mistake or should you always be rooting against the Miz?

  • hailtothekalehailtothekale Registered User regular
    Magell wrote: »
    Dex Dynamo wrote: »
    The fundamental problem with the 2013 ABC Family made for TV Christmas movie Christmas Bounty (2013) is it is a movie where you are supposed to root for The Miz to reunite with his ex, but they wrote her new boyfriend at every single step to be the nicest, chillest, most enthusiastic dude possible

    This dude discovers his fiancee is actually a bounty hunter wanted by the mob, with a family and an ex he never knew about, and his response at every step is "Hey cool, I actually hate my Manhattan upper crust family and I am extremely onboard for this"

    And so by the end of the movie every time I watch every year, I am always, ALWAYS, rooting for this guy over the Miz

    Is that a mistake or should you always be rooting against the Miz?

    Some might call it a Miz-take

  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    If traditional strong style can be described as a game of chicken where both wrestlers start with a feeling out process before escalating into throws and submissions leading to the more desperate competitor to take up striking then "sports entertainment" traditionally follows this formula.
    1. Babyface gets the shine right out of the gate to either establish them as a flashy star to get behind or an underdog who is having little effect on a monster heel.
    2. Heel gets the heat.
    3. Heel gets the heat for probably too long as the beat down is extended. This is extra formulaic in tag matches where one person "plays Ricky Morton" in the face in peril act.
    4. Hope spot. This is a comeback, often the five moves of doom
    5. (optional) dub spot. Either the comeback is shut down or the comeback was all a burst of adrenaline just barely keeping the underdog standing. Now they're both down.
    6. False finishes leading to the finish or if this is like half the matches on NXT these days somebody just interferes completely invalidating all previous steps.

    The benefit of this format is that big epic matches feel even more dramatic. The drawback is that midcard matches feel even more formulaic.

    Just once, I want to see the heel team get the hot tag.

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  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    WWE Vault is putting in work this week:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8kAFDbXfnM

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  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    At first I thought they were riding AEW trends with a Taz video on his return and a match at Hammerstein, but now it just feels like ECW week for some reason.

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    With all the video libraries they own, there's basically no reason NOT to lean into it and put up stuff that nobody else can upload

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    edited December 2024
    NJPW is reporting that Great OKhan suffered some sort of back/side injury at the last NJPW show and thus has been pulled from his match against Danshoku Dieno at DDT Ultimate Party as, at the very least, a precaution.

    Hopefully it's not a serious injury that should affect his availability for Wrestle Kingdom/Dynasty. I hope it's just to give him as much rest as possible, as 9 days of rest is better than 7 days of rest, and if they had to choose, it's way easier to pull him from a match at a non-NJPW show.

    Meanwhile, Dieno's new opponent has been decided

    https://x.com/ddtproENG/status/1872181020298301552

    He is wrestling the Invisible Man

    Joey Janela and Sanshiro Takagi are in the replies discussing the logistics of booking such a star on short notice.

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  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    With all the video libraries they own, there's basically no reason NOT to lean into it and put up stuff that nobody else can upload

    I wish they would upload more stuff that's also not on Peacock or something they regularly release. The latest video I posted is one such thing and they released that old Omni show which was only ever in the vault, but I'd love for more of the weird territory stuff they own that's never been released.

  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    I assume they see this as like a loss leader to get people to sign up for Peacock/WWE Network?

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  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    I assume they see this as like a loss leader to get people to sign up for Peacock/WWE Network?

    I don't think it costs them anything, and probably makes money since they're getting youtube ad money. Now that they don't have their own streaming service, I don't think anybody else is going to want to store all the stuff they have in the back catalog that doesn't get watched much.

  • SproutSprout Registered User regular
    The whole Peacock WWE library is going away next week, isn’t it?

  • akajaybayakajaybay Registered User regular
    edited December 2024
    I think they have another year in the US (at least)

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    Good because I'm trying to get through all the 1995 to 2005 ppvs. I'm up to early 2001 and it's getting to be a bit of a slog though.

    Then I'm going to timeskip and watch 2015 thru 2023 (have seen all of 2024 already). Hopefully I can get that all in before they pull the plug.

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  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    Good because I'm trying to get through all the 1995 to 2005 ppvs. I'm up to early 2001 and it's getting to be a bit of a slog though.

    Then I'm going to timeskip and watch 2015 thru 2023 (have seen all of 2024 already). Hopefully I can get that all in before they pull the plug.

    Good choice of time to skip. That's when I stopped watching WWE and was all in on RoH, IWA:MS, PWG, TNA, and random indies.

  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    This may or may not be Wrestlemas Day 4. WWE Vault uploaded Rey vs Juvi 2/3 falls match I watched earlier this year that instantly made the list of my top 50 mat hes of all time. A masterclass in lucha high flying these two with some hardcore brawling mixed in. Phenomenal match. Think I want yo find stuff from not a channel everybody knows.

    https://youtu.be/aZYx2ZK0hx0?si=3_uViVF2wYk89jXc

  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    My friend who doesn't really watch wrestling and certainly hasn't paid attention in years is at the WWE house show with his family (it's more for his young cousins)

    First thing he messages the group:

    "10 years later and Rollins still mostly sucks"

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  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    Here's Jimmy Jacobs vs. Jon Moxley from DG USA in an I Quit match for Day 4 of Wrestlemas. Jimmy Jacobs has always been overshadowed by Alex Shelley, having a much smaller build, and never really getting the spotlight, but he is responsible for a good amount of iconic moments and that's jus the work he did on screen and ignoring stuff he did behind the screen. I think the funniest thing, is that Jacobs is tiny, but he has never been a high flyer and his specialty has generally been being a bloody brawler and obviously he's a guy who can take a beating and knows how to time a comeback and sell everything. He was always one of the better talkers on the indies, which he kind of had to be to make up for his size and just is always a pleasure to watch.

    Moxley controls the match, and Jacobs has amazing comeback sections including locking in a front facelock with his hands in handcuffs behind his back. Jacobs cuts a promo after the match and his face is just covered in blood as is all of his hair, fucking crazy.

    Warning: Bloody, just so much fucking blood

    https://youtu.be/NsZDvImhpdc?si=4QsnLSRGkt6Oz_vg

    Jacobs was in my favorite match I'd ever seen live from RoH against BJ Whitmer and Bryan Danielson in an elimination match in Detroit where the crowd fully believed that Jimmy Jacobs could pull off the win. It's a great match and I don't think one that gets a whole lot of shine, but you should go watch it if you can find it or are subscribed to Honor Club.

  • evilbobevilbob RADELAIDERegistered User regular
    they dropping even more ecw. warning: footage includes wrestling fans
    https://youtu.be/l9Oh3mav6g0?si=lMniHwvhmYKX_rGh

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  • facetiousfacetious a wit so dry it shits sandRegistered User regular
    ew, wrestling fans

    "I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde
    Real strong, facetious.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    I think rookie Toni Storm is 3-0 now since joining AEW. She could have a bright future ahead of her. Wonder if she'll have an undefeated streak like Hook or Cargil?

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    If the rankings still existed, she could soon be in line for a Women's World Title shot

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  • Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
    vault is posting so much ecw to commemorate December to Dismember

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  • JayDizLJayDizL Registered User regular
    A plucky underdog from Chicago's finest hour...

    I wonder if he ever did anything after his time in ECW? :/

  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    lol Logan Paul wanted a Mania match with Cena

    Sounds like after cutting through all the bullshit rumor mill crap the prevailing thought in the company was ABSOLUTELY NOT

    Sounds like good chance he challenges for a title to break flairs record

  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    lol Logan Paul wanted a Mania match with Cena

    Sounds like after cutting through all the bullshit rumor mill crap the prevailing thought in the company was ABSOLUTELY NOT

    Sounds like good chance he challenges for a title to break flairs record

    jon stewart better stop him again

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    I mean, in terms of actual star power and global recognition, Paul vs Cena probably is one of the bigger matches they could and probably should do. Wrestling is not above celebrity bullshit to pop a rating.

    But I assume they'll do Cena vs Walter or whatever.

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  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    I mean, in terms of actual star power and global recognition, Paul vs Cena probably is one of the bigger matches they could and probably should do. Wrestling is not above celebrity bullshit to pop a rating.

    But I assume they'll do Cena vs Walter or whatever.

    Your arent wrong, but its nice they are respecting Cena's legacy without saddling him with that bullshit

  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    "We like Logan Paul enough to keep employing him and putting him prominently on our product, but not enough to let him work with John Cena"

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  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    edited December 2024
    I mean, in terms of actual star power and global recognition, Paul vs Cena probably is one of the bigger matches they could and probably should do. Wrestling is not above celebrity bullshit to pop a rating.

    But I assume they'll do Cena vs Walter or whatever.

    Your arent wrong, but its nice they are respecting Cena's legacy without saddling him with that bullshit

    It would be way better than Cena's last Mania match against Austin Theory. Paul doesn't make sense as he's a part timer, though.

    You've got to highlight a young guy; Orton, Cena's best friend; Punk, his best rival still in the company.

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    How about this pitch for a Cena WM match: Miz finally kicks out of the AA and goes over clean, his increased confidence leading to another world title reign as he reminds Roman he's actually starred in several movies, not just made cameos. Also Logan Paul gets fired in there somewhere.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    i will be wrestling john cena at wrestlemania forty one

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