Lets talk about the 60 gig ps3 $100 price drop and the new $600 80 gig ps3

Santa Claustrophobia

Neva wrote: »

cloudeagle wrote: »

Reznik wrote: »

Hey guys, I stumbled upon this info, do you think it's accurate?

"The company has sold the PS3 at a loss, primarily because of the cost of the blue lasers used in the movie player. The game division lost nearly $2 billion in its 2007 fiscal year, which ended March 31. But analysts said the price drop signaled that the company now had those costs under control.

"We think they're profitable now with the PS3," Doherty said. "We also think the Wii is profitable for Nintendo. But with the $1-billion charge to fix its consoles, Microsoft will need a telescope to see profitability."

Microsoft said last week that it intended to turn a profit in its current fiscal year, which began July 1."

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-sony9jul09,0,5972904.story?coll=la-home-center

"Clearing up the trouble (diodes) made PlayStation 3 profitable several months ago, giving the company room to cut prices, analyst Doherty said. Microsoft still loses money on each Xbox 360 it sells, he said."

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=afgq3TkNyH_g&refer=asia

Salmoned for lies. They dropped the price because they want the fucking thing to sell.

The 60 GB version lost more than $200 at launch. So, at its new price, components would have to drop over $300 to make a profit.

I'm sure there's been progress made, but not that much.

Well if they going by their other products, they've already made up the lose. They already mode up most of the money a few months back with the cybershot and tv sells. Unless they are trying to say that the PS3 has made up the lose itself, which I really doubt is possible already.

I don't think the stockholders would like to hear that since one division is hemorrhaging cash that the rest of the company's profits we're going to support it. SONY may be making money hand over fist, but that doesn't mean SCEA is doing well because of it.

My guess is the salmoned statement is meant to reflect SCEA and the PS3 development and not SONY as a whole.

cloudeagle

Santa Claustrophobia wrote: »

Neva wrote: »

cloudeagle wrote: »

Reznik wrote: »

Hey guys, I stumbled upon this info, do you think it's accurate?

"The company has sold the PS3 at a loss, primarily because of the cost of the blue lasers used in the movie player. The game division lost nearly $2 billion in its 2007 fiscal year, which ended March 31. But analysts said the price drop signaled that the company now had those costs under control.

"We think they're profitable now with the PS3," Doherty said. "We also think the Wii is profitable for Nintendo. But with the $1-billion charge to fix its consoles, Microsoft will need a telescope to see profitability."

Microsoft said last week that it intended to turn a profit in its current fiscal year, which began July 1."

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-sony9jul09,0,5972904.story?coll=la-home-center

"Clearing up the trouble (diodes) made PlayStation 3 profitable several months ago, giving the company room to cut prices, analyst Doherty said. Microsoft still loses money on each Xbox 360 it sells, he said."

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=afgq3TkNyH_g&refer=asia

Salmoned for lies. They dropped the price because they want the fucking thing to sell.

The 60 GB version lost more than $200 at launch. So, at its new price, components would have to drop over $300 to make a profit.

I'm sure there's been progress made, but not that much.

Well if they going by their other products, they've already made up the lose. They already mode up most of the money a few months back with the cybershot and tv sells. Unless they are trying to say that the PS3 has made up the lose itself, which I really doubt is possible already.

I don't think the stockholders would like to hear that since one division is hemorrhaging cash that the rest of the company's profits we're going to support it. SONY may be making money hand over fist, but that doesn't mean SCEA is doing well because of it.

My guess is the salmoned statement is meant to reflect SCEA and the PS3 development and not SONY as a whole.

Yep. The analyst statement was centered on JUST Sony's gaming segment, nothing else. We all know that the company has other divisions that can keep it afloat, but that division has lost too much money over the last year to have turned around things by now.

PingPong

cloudeagle wrote: »

Santa Claustrophobia wrote: »

Neva wrote: »

cloudeagle wrote: »

Reznik wrote: »

Hey guys, I stumbled upon this info, do you think it's accurate?

"The company has sold the PS3 at a loss, primarily because of the cost of the blue lasers used in the movie player. The game division lost nearly $2 billion in its 2007 fiscal year, which ended March 31. But analysts said the price drop signaled that the company now had those costs under control.

"We think they're profitable now with the PS3," Doherty said. "We also think the Wii is profitable for Nintendo. But with the $1-billion charge to fix its consoles, Microsoft will need a telescope to see profitability."

Microsoft said last week that it intended to turn a profit in its current fiscal year, which began July 1."

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-sony9jul09,0,5972904.story?coll=la-home-center

"Clearing up the trouble (diodes) made PlayStation 3 profitable several months ago, giving the company room to cut prices, analyst Doherty said. Microsoft still loses money on each Xbox 360 it sells, he said."

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=afgq3TkNyH_g&refer=asia

Salmoned for lies. They dropped the price because they want the fucking thing to sell.

The 60 GB version lost more than $200 at launch. So, at its new price, components would have to drop over $300 to make a profit.

I'm sure there's been progress made, but not that much.

Well if they going by their other products, they've already made up the lose. They already mode up most of the money a few months back with the cybershot and tv sells. Unless they are trying to say that the PS3 has made up the lose itself, which I really doubt is possible already.

I don't think the stockholders would like to hear that since one division is hemorrhaging cash that the rest of the company's profits we're going to support it. SONY may be making money hand over fist, but that doesn't mean SCEA is doing well because of it.

My guess is the salmoned statement is meant to reflect SCEA and the PS3 development and not SONY as a whole.

Yep. The analyst statement was centered on JUST Sony's gaming segment, nothing else. We all know that the company has other divisions that can keep it afloat, but that division has lost too much money over the last year to have turned around things by now.

"Under control" doesn't mean the PS3 has paid itself off though.

Rowdie

Well the first issue is they're not at a lower price then they were at launch. Sony sold a 500 dollar PS3 at launch. Are people suddenly going to think, "hey that card reader really makes the 500 bucks a good buy now,"? Honestly the offering should have decreased in people's minds. What with the 360 appearing to be the more powerful with every new release and PS3 exclusives jumping ship left and right.

Plus pack in games are weak. That's Sega Saturn stuff right there. When you can't really decrease the costs of your console appear to make it a better value by packing in some games. Honestly, a game not of your choosing and 20 gigs of HDD space is worth 100 bucks? C'mon.

A lot of units will be sold by winning the hearts and minds of retail clerks. I'd bet the improvements to the 360 and the extended warranty work as well as a return to a price point you abandoned what? 4 months ago?

Games Games Games, that's what will sell. Not losing MGS4, having a good showing for Killzone and Lair and Ratchet, et al....

Oh and a real price cut, as in price of entry is now 400 bucks.

JihadJesus

Apparently Amazon PS3 sales have jumped around 2500% since they started offering the 60GB PS3 at $499. To which everyone in the world says "No shit, give it a week and we'll talk".

Does anyone else think Sony announcing/implementing this so close to E3 was a mistake? The initial sales surge post price drop was a given, and publishers will wait to see if the increase in sales is a flash in the pan or not before comitting. But by that time E3 will be history - and many of the bigest publishing deals and exclusivity agreements will be nailed down while publishers remain in a 'wait and see' mode in regards to PS3 sales.

Actually, if Sony assumes the sales increase won't be sustained, that might not be a bad plan. Except that no one else is buying into it.

Kevin Crist

JihadJesus wrote: »

Apparently Amazon PS3 sales have jumped around 2500% since they started offering the 60GB PS3 at $499. To which everyone in the world says "No shit, give it a week and we'll talk".

From Amazon's page:
"The Movers & Shakers index identifies, by category, the biggest gainers in sales rank at Amazon.com in the past 24 hours. For example, suppose a music item has a sales rank of 10 today, but was ranked as low as 30 yesterday. Its Movers & Shakers increase would be 200 percent."

it's sales haven't gone up ~2700%, just it's ranking on Amazon.

Rowdie

They had to announce it sooner or later. So, no, I don't think it was a mistake to announce it right before/during e3.

darleysam

JihadJesus wrote: »

Apparently Amazon PS3 sales have jumped around 2500% since they started offering the 60GB PS3 at $499. To which everyone in the world says "No shit, give it a week and we'll talk".

Does anyone else think Sony announcing/implementing this so close to E3 was a mistake?.

no chance, they'll be eagerly drawing up the graphs to show how strong and awesome their sales are.

JihadJesus

Kevin Crist wrote: »

JihadJesus wrote: »

Apparently Amazon PS3 sales have jumped around 2500% since they started offering the 60GB PS3 at $499. To which everyone in the world says "No shit, give it a week and we'll talk".

From Amazon's page:
"The Movers & Shakers index identifies, by category, the biggest gainers in sales rank at Amazon.com in the past 24 hours. For example, suppose a music item has a sales rank of 10 today, but was ranked as low as 30 yesterday. Its Movers & Shakers increase would be 200 percent."

it's sales haven't gone up ~2700%, just it's ranking on Amazon.

Ah, misread that. Well, even worse for them in that case. Even the initial sales boost could actually be pretty modest.

JCRooks

JihadJesus wrote: »

Apparently Amazon PS3 sales have jumped around 2500% since they started offering the 60GB PS3 at $499. To which everyone in the world says "No shit, give it a week and we'll talk".

Does anyone else think Sony announcing/implementing this so close to E3 was a mistake? The initial sales surge post price drop was a given, and publishers will wait to see if the increase in sales is a flash in the pan or not before comitting. But by that time E3 will be history - and many of the bigest publishing deals and exclusivity agreements will be nailed down while publishers remain in a 'wait and see' mode in regards to PS3 sales.

Actually, if Sony assumes the sales increase won't be sustained, that might not be a bad plan. Except that no one else is buying into it.

Isn't July a horrible time to announce price drops? It's one of the worst consumer months in general, as most people are out and about doing outdoor stuff or sports, etc. It's also the time where many people (including myself) are doing house shopping (mostly due to it being summer and school's out, so it's easier to move if you have kids). I know that I'm not spending a lot of money on consumer gadgets until later this Fall.

Yes, there's a huge sales increase, but don't you want that during the months where there's huge sales to begin with? I'm sure Sony would much rather have the 10-20% bump in sales in November, rather than July. By the time the holiday season rolls around, the price drop buzz will be long gone. You would have figured that Sony would want something to compete against the impending Halo 3 media/fanboy orgy as well.

The only reason I can think of why Sony dropped the price now, is because they wanted to generate some sort of buzz for E3. However, I wonder if retailers leaking the price drop early essentially ruined the big surprise that they wanted to unveil during the press conference. If that's the case, then I imagine there are some furious Sony folks out there ...

cloudeagle

JCRooks wrote: »

The only reason I can think of why Sony dropped the price now, is because they wanted to generate some sort of buzz for E3. However, I wonder if retailers leaking the price drop early essentially ruined the big surprise that they wanted to unveil during the press conference. If that's the case, then I imagine there are some furious Sony folks out there ...

Maybe they announced it early to try to erase the goodwill Microsoft got by admitting to the problems and offering to fix things for three years.

Regardless, this does take a bit of steam out of their conference. They'd better have something really, really groovy in store to make it up.

Orogogus

JCRooks wrote: »

Isn't July a horrible time to announce price drops? It's one of the worst consumer months in general, as most people are out and about doing outdoor stuff or sports, etc. It's also the time where many people (including myself) are doing house shopping (mostly due to it being summer and school's out, so it's easier to move if you have kids). I know that I'm not spending a lot of money on consumer gadgets until later this Fall.

Eh, the industry seems to think this way, but I know that I was bitter during my school years because nothing would come out during the summer, when I had all the time in the world, and instead all the games would come out during the academic season, when I'd never have time to get through anything at all.

JCRooks

Orogogus wrote: »

JCRooks wrote: »

Isn't July a horrible time to announce price drops? It's one of the worst consumer months in general, as most people are out and about doing outdoor stuff or sports, etc. It's also the time where many people (including myself) are doing house shopping (mostly due to it being summer and school's out, so it's easier to move if you have kids). I know that I'm not spending a lot of money on consumer gadgets until later this Fall.

Eh, the industry seems to think this way, but I know that I was bitter during my school years because nothing would come out during the summer, when I had all the time in the world, and instead all the games would come out during the academic season, when I'd never have time to get through anything at all.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I think having games come out during the summer is a bloody good thing, and I certainly wish more publishers/developers did this.

But a $50/60 game is much different than a console that, even with the price drop, is still $500-600 (depending on SKU). Not to mention having to buy all the games and accessories you want along with that. IMHO, I don't think there's as many people willing to spend that kind of money now, versus a couple of months from now.

Radikal_Dreamer

Orogogus wrote: »

JCRooks wrote: »

Isn't July a horrible time to announce price drops? It's one of the worst consumer months in general, as most people are out and about doing outdoor stuff or sports, etc. It's also the time where many people (including myself) are doing house shopping (mostly due to it being summer and school's out, so it's easier to move if you have kids). I know that I'm not spending a lot of money on consumer gadgets until later this Fall.

Eh, the industry seems to think this way, but I know that I was bitter during my school years because nothing would come out during the summer, when I had all the time in the world, and instead all the games would come out during the academic season, when I'd never have time to get through anything at all.

I was the same. I remember a few years being just livid that every game I wanted to play came out approximately just when school started again. So, I'd pretty much spend my money on stupid stuff to pass my time in summer, and then not have enough money to get all the things I had been anticipating, and I'd also just not have enough time to play them in the first place. I always always hated that. That's why I'm so happy that the FF PSP ports and Persona are coming out during summer, though a bit later than I'd have liked.

JCRooks wrote: »

Oh, don't get me wrong. I think having games come out during the summer is a bloody good thing, and I certainly wish more publishers/developers did this.

But a $50/60 game is much different than a console that, even with the price drop, is still $500-600 (depending on SKU). Not to mention having to buy all the games and accessories you want along with that. IMHO, I don't think there's as many people willing to spend that kind of money now, versus a couple of months from now.

I bought my PS3 this summer. There's no way I'd buy it during school. New console + school = holy crap bad grades. Not to mention I couldn't buy it when school starts because of, well, you know, BOOKS. Beginning of summer is my spending time, not school.

ze swift class

Radikal_Dreamer wrote: »

I bought my PS3 this summer. There's no way I'd buy it during school. New console + school = holy crap bad grades. Not to mention I couldn't buy it when school starts because of, well, you know, BOOKS. Beginning of summer is my spending time, not school.

Common sense. We need more of this.

jclast

Doctor Detroit wrote: »

wunderbar wrote: »

RainbowDespair wrote: »

So I noticed that the $500 PS3 is up on Gamestop's online site. Good news for anyone who wants to order one.

On a side note, is it just me or is that 5 free Blu-Ray offer deceptively lame? Didn't see a single movie in the list that I would want to own and even if I did like some of the movies offered, it's awfully annoying that instead of saying "pick 5 movies out of this list of a couple dozen" you only have a handful of options for each individual Blu-Ray disk.

5 free blu-ray movies, even shitty ones, are still worth like, $150, and they make good tech demo's on 1080p displays

Let's try this: What if it's 3 free games (to keep the price in same ballpark)? You get to choose from the following:
1) Surf's Up, Pirates of the Carribean: At World's End, or Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer
2) Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom or Genji: Days of the Blade
3) Enchanted Arms, Sonic the Hedgehog, or Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire

It's still a stupid idea. First, I don't want three of the games listed. Second, the two I do want to play are both in the first group. If you're going to insist that I buy three games with the console then give me a list of games and say "pick three." Don't give me this college course selection bullshit where I need one from group A, one from group B, and one from group C.

Doctor Detroit

jclast wrote: »

Doctor Detroit wrote: »

wunderbar wrote: »

RainbowDespair wrote: »

So I noticed that the $500 PS3 is up on Gamestop's online site. Good news for anyone who wants to order one.

On a side note, is it just me or is that 5 free Blu-Ray offer deceptively lame? Didn't see a single movie in the list that I would want to own and even if I did like some of the movies offered, it's awfully annoying that instead of saying "pick 5 movies out of this list of a couple dozen" you only have a handful of options for each individual Blu-Ray disk.

5 free blu-ray movies, even shitty ones, are still worth like, $150, and they make good tech demo's on 1080p displays

Let's try this: What if it's 3 free games (to keep the price in same ballpark)? You get to choose from the following:
1) Surf's Up, Pirates of the Carribean: At World's End, or Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer
2) Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom or Genji: Days of the Blade
3) Enchanted Arms, Sonic the Hedgehog, or Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire

It's still a stupid idea. First, I don't want three of the games listed. Second, the two I do want to play are both in the first group. If you're going to insist that I buy three games with the console then give me a list of games and say "pick three." Don't give me this college course selection bullshit where I need one from group A, one from group B, and one from group C.

That was kind of my point. The "college couse selection bullshit" is what the 5 free movie offer is. And they aren't really the best movies out there, and they're sorted into 5 different categories.

So what I don't understand is why is "choose 5 movies of arguable quality" a good selling point? (Nothing against Blazing Saddles, but why would I want a 33-year-old movie in HD?)

Granted, no one is required to take advantage of the offer. But to be honest, I predict a rapid decline in the trade-in value for all those movies.

Daybreak

Doctor Detroit wrote: »

(Nothing against Blazing Saddles, but why would I want a 33-year-old movie in HD?)

Just a nitpick, and maybe you already know this, but I want to get it out there. Old movies benefit from HD too. The Casablanca HD DVD transfer in particular is absolutely stunning, and that's in black and white!

Remember that film is analog, so any resolution increase will make the home version look much better.

Assuming the transfer on Blazing Saddles was done well, you should certainly expect it to be better looking than the DVD version.

(I got a lot of questions from friends when I bought Casablanca in HD. It revealed to me that my friends don't really know how HD (or film!) works).

victor_c26

Blazing Saddles still has the possibility of looking excellent in HD. It all depends on the transfer quality and how well the original film was kept.

But yeah. Those "5 free movies!" deals are all the same. They only let you choose from a selection of bland or old movies.

victor_c26

Daybreak wrote: »

Doctor Detroit wrote: »

(Nothing against Blazing Saddles, but why would I want a 33-year-old movie in HD?)

Just a nitpick, and maybe you already know this, but I want to get it out there. Old movies benefit from HD too. The Casablanca HD DVD transfer in particular is absolutely stunning, and that's in black and white!

Remember that film is analog, so any resolution increase will make the home version look much better.

Assuming the transfer on Blazing Saddles was done well, you should certainly expect it to be better looking than the DVD version.

(I got a lot of questions from friends when I bought Casablanca in HD. It revealed to me that my friends don't really know how HD (or film!) works).

I think he meant it in the 'film preservation' sense.

variant

I don't think that there's a "wrong" time to do a price drop, there's better times, more strategic times but it's not wrong to drop the price at any time.

Doctor Detroit

Daybreak wrote: »

Doctor Detroit wrote: »

(Nothing against Blazing Saddles, but why would I want a 33-year-old movie in HD?)

Just a nitpick, and maybe you already know this, but I want to get it out there. Old movies benefit from HD too. The Casablanca HD DVD transfer in particular is absolutely stunning, and that's in black and white!

Remember that film is analog, so any resolution increase will make the home version look much better.

Assuming the transfer on Blazing Saddles was done well, you should certainly expect it to be better looking than the DVD version.

(I got a lot of questions from friends when I bought Casablanca in HD. It revealed to me that my friends don't really know how HD (or film!) works).

Okay, you've got a point. But I suppose I could argue that without a large screen 1080p set, my Blazing Saddles DVD will suffice for now.

paco_pepe

ShimSham wrote: »

Darkwarrior - MG1 was ported to the NES, MG2 was eventually ported to the PS2, MGS was ported to the PC, MGS2(sub) was ported to the Xbox and I think PC as well. So when someone said every game but Snake Eater/Subsistence was ported, they weren't exaggerating.

So yeah, you're wrong.

Edit: Unless you're going to try to argue that Ghost Babel and AC!D(2) haven't been ported, even though they're the farthest thing from canonical.

im sorry to revive this point, but i think Twin snakes also counts.
holy shit! MGS!!! ON THE GAMECUBE!!!!

DarkWarrior

Ports and remakes do not count as the same thing. It was built on a different engine to the original for a start.

ShimSham

DarkWarrior wrote: »

Ports and remakes do not count as the same thing. It was built on a different engine to the original for a start.

Yeah, and I listed ports. But I mean, it's cool that you don't want to acknowledge that you were wrong by saying MGS2 was the only game to be ported.

shryke

I just gotta say, I've been hearing about this "5 BlueRay Movies" offer for awhile now. I finally looked at it.

Wow, I don't think I wanted a single one of those. That's an absolutely terrible offer. If I was buying a PS3, I might not even bother. It's like getting 5 free High Def coasters.

Santa Claustrophobia

shryke wrote: »

I just gotta say, I've been hearing about this "5 BlueRay Movies" offer for awhile now. I finally looked at it.

Wow, I don't think I wanted a single one of those. That's an absolutely terrible offer. If I was buying a PS3, I might not even bother. It's like getting 5 free High Def coasters.

Yeah, but the protection of table surfaces would be crystal clear!

Katchem_ash

well good thing I waited. YAY for the PS3 and Sony. YAY!

Ownage Jones

shryke wrote: »

I just gotta say, I've been hearing about this "5 BlueRay Movies" offer for awhile now. I finally looked at it.

Wow, I don't think I wanted a single one of those. That's an absolutely terrible offer. If I was buying a PS3, I might not even bother. It's like getting 5 free High Def coasters.

Haven't seen the deal, but I know a few friends have broke down and got one. I expect a glut of the same titles to appear shortly on Ebay.

balboni

shryke wrote: »

I just gotta say, I've been hearing about this "5 BlueRay Movies" offer for awhile now. I finally looked at it.

Wow, I don't think I wanted a single one of those. That's an absolutely terrible offer. If I was buying a PS3, I might not even bother. It's like getting 5 free High Def coasters.

I find myself ashamed that I will be getting Pearl Harbor because it is the best option I have in the first group...

I don't mind getting Underworld Evolution, or even Italian Job was OK. I picked up Casino Royale with the system, so I have my Blu-Ray fix for now anyway.

The same thing happened years ago when I bought my DVD player, except I had NO choice in the 5 movies. All I remember was that Lethal Weapon 4 was the best one by FAR. I gave the other 4 to my parents (I know it included Step-Mom and 6 Days 7 Nights I think?).

Tw4win

I feel a bit dirty but I took the plunge today and picked up a PS3. I also picked up the HDMI cable, Resistance, Motorstorm, and Ninja Gaiden, as well as a headset and thing to convert my PS2 saves to PS3.

Anything I should know or do right away?

Vicious_GSR

Tw4win wrote: »

I feel a bit dirty but I took the plunge today and picked up a PS3. I also picked up the HDMI cable, Resistance, Motorstorm, and Ninja Gaiden, as well as a headset and thing to convert my PS2 saves to PS3.

Anything I should know or do right away?

Warhawk would have come with a Blue Tooth headset if you waited :P


Um, set up at least three accounts on yours PS3 to access different content in different stores. North American, European {UK}, Japanese.

Invisible

Tw4win wrote: »

I feel a bit dirty but I took the plunge today and picked up a PS3. I also picked up the HDMI cable, Resistance, Motorstorm, and Ninja Gaiden, as well as a headset and thing to convert my PS2 saves to PS3.

Anything I should know or do right away?

You didn't pick up the official $59.99 HDMI cable, did you?

If you did return and buy this one from newegg. Someone else in this thread informed me about it and I have to spread the word. I ordered it Monday, had it arrive yesterday and it works exactly the same. There isn't any quality loss or anything. Just $50 to cushion your wallet.

Tw4win

Invisible wrote: »

Tw4win wrote: »

I feel a bit dirty but I took the plunge today and picked up a PS3. I also picked up the HDMI cable, Resistance, Motorstorm, and Ninja Gaiden, as well as a headset and thing to convert my PS2 saves to PS3.

Anything I should know or do right away?

You didn't pick up the official $59.99 HDMI cable, did you?

If you did return and buy this one from newegg. Someone else in this thread informed me about it and I have to spread the word. I ordered it Monday, had it arrive yesterday and it works exactly the same. There isn't any quality loss or anything. Just $50 to cushion your wallet.

Wow. I'm going to return the one I got and order that one now. I didn't get the official one, but I did get a $40 one.

Dr_Keenbean

Invisible wrote: »

Tw4win wrote: »

I feel a bit dirty but I took the plunge today and picked up a PS3. I also picked up the HDMI cable, Resistance, Motorstorm, and Ninja Gaiden, as well as a headset and thing to convert my PS2 saves to PS3.

Anything I should know or do right away?

You didn't pick up the official $59.99 HDMI cable, did you?

If you did return and buy this one from newegg. Someone else in this thread informed me about it and I have to spread the word. I ordered it Monday, had it arrive yesterday and it works exactly the same. There isn't any quality loss or anything. Just $50 to cushion your wallet.

Yessir, HDMI is digimical so you either have signal or not. There is no 'better' signal.

deadmilkman

....I guess its time to update the dictionary...

Add more features to a product and all of a sudden it gets called a "price drop"

Personally, I guess I'm of the older school of thought that says the entry price actually has to drop instead of just upgrading the lowest priced teir.

Don't forget...it doesn't cost one penny less to buy a new Playstation 3 today as it did on launch day.

DarkWarrior

deadmilkman wrote: »

....I guess its time to update the dictionary...

Add more features to a product and all of a sudden it gets called a "price drop"

Personally, I guess I'm of the older school of thought that says the entry price actually has to drop instead of just upgrading the lowest priced teir.

Don't forget...it doesn't cost one penny less to buy a new Playstation 3 today as it did on launch day.

Dude, don't come over here paraphrasing Peter Moore and make it sound like the above is your own opinion.

cloudeagle

DarkWarrior wrote: »

deadmilkman wrote: »

....I guess its time to update the dictionary...

Add more features to a product and all of a sudden it gets called a "price drop"

Personally, I guess I'm of the older school of thought that says the entry price actually has to drop instead of just upgrading the lowest priced teir.

Don't forget...it doesn't cost one penny less to buy a new Playstation 3 today as it did on launch day.

Dude, don't come over here paraphrasing Peter Moore and make it sound like the above is your own opinion.

....what? Come on, Darkwarrior, you can do better than that. Or are you running out of comebacks?

DarkWarrior

cloudeagle wrote: »

DarkWarrior wrote: »

deadmilkman wrote: »

....I guess its time to update the dictionary...

Add more features to a product and all of a sudden it gets called a "price drop"

Personally, I guess I'm of the older school of thought that says the entry price actually has to drop instead of just upgrading the lowest priced teir.

Don't forget...it doesn't cost one penny less to buy a new Playstation 3 today as it did on launch day.

Dude, don't come over here paraphrasing Peter Moore and make it sound like the above is your own opinion.

....what? Come on, Darkwarrior, you can do better than that. Or are you running out of comebacks?

Its exactly what Peter Moore said in an interview earlier. Except he hasn't credited him with it.

EDIT: There http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=26669

deadmilkman

DarkWarrior wrote: »

cloudeagle wrote: »

DarkWarrior wrote: »

deadmilkman wrote: »

....I guess its time to update the dictionary...

Add more features to a product and all of a sudden it gets called a "price drop"

Personally, I guess I'm of the older school of thought that says the entry price actually has to drop instead of just upgrading the lowest priced teir.

Don't forget...it doesn't cost one penny less to buy a new Playstation 3 today as it did on launch day.

Dude, don't come over here paraphrasing Peter Moore and make it sound like the above is your own opinion.

....what? Come on, Darkwarrior, you can do better than that. Or are you running out of comebacks?

Its exactly what Peter Moore said in an interview earlier. Except he hasn't credited him with it.

OMG, I share common sense with Peter Moore, Heaven forbid common sense has become quoted to the first individual who speaks it.
(*I had no idea Mr. Moore said it...I said it here and in a couple of other threads...when did he say it...maybe I managed to say it before him then I can claim Peter Moore stole MY common sense without quoting ME)