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I don't think I have 600$ worth of love for Disgaea. I have a lot, but, ya know, not 600 loves worth.
Truth. I love NIS and Atlus to death, but $600 is a very sizable roadblock to me. Now if a new SMT game was announced for the PS3, I would spend the next few months subsisting off of Ramen Noodles to afford it.
I don't think I have 600$ worth of love for Disgaea. I have a lot, but, ya know, not 600 loves worth.
Truth. I love NIS and Atlus to death, but $600 is a very sizable roadblock to me. Now if a new SMT game was announced for the PS3, I would spend the next few months subsisting off of Ramen Noodles to afford it.
If I absolutely HAD to buy a PS3, I'd pick up a used 20GB and replace the 20GB with a 250GB drive. Can't you get used 20GB PS3s for like, $300 now?
I don't think I have 600$ worth of love for Disgaea. I have a lot, but, ya know, not 600 loves worth.
Truth. I love NIS and Atlus to death, but $600 is a very sizable roadblock to me. Now if a new SMT game was announced for the PS3, I would spend the next few months subsisting off of Ramen Noodles to afford it.
If I absolutely HAD to buy a PS3, I'd pick up a used 20GB and replace the 20GB with a 250GB drive. Can't you get used 20GB PS3s for like, $300 now?
Not sure, but I don't think you can replace the drives.
I don't think I have 600$ worth of love for Disgaea. I have a lot, but, ya know, not 600 loves worth.
Truth. I love NIS and Atlus to death, but $600 is a very sizable roadblock to me. Now if a new SMT game was announced for the PS3, I would spend the next few months subsisting off of Ramen Noodles to afford it.
If I absolutely HAD to buy a PS3, I'd pick up a used 20GB and replace the 20GB with a 250GB drive. Can't you get used 20GB PS3s for like, $300 now?
Not sure, but I don't think you can replace the drives.
I don't think I have 600$ worth of love for Disgaea. I have a lot, but, ya know, not 600 loves worth.
Truth. I love NIS and Atlus to death, but $600 is a very sizable roadblock to me. Now if a new SMT game was announced for the PS3, I would spend the next few months subsisting off of Ramen Noodles to afford it.
I have no idea why they aren't making it multi-platform. It's not like they're making much use of the Cell processor, and they would probably at least double the profits on any other system.
That said, I couldn't really get into Disgaea 2, so I don't mind.
I would've been more surprised if it was announced for the Wii. How many other JRPGs are coming to the Wii? PS2 was RPG heaven, NIS probably just figured their userbase will get around to getting a PS3 eventually. It'll probably work out for them in the end.
Maybe they are releasing multiple versions of it, you know a PS3 version and a PS2 version, just like upcoming sports games. Except you know in this case both versions of the game would look exactly the same. A man can dream right?
I would've been more surprised if it was announced for the Wii. How many other JRPGs are coming to the Wii? PS2 was RPG heaven, NIS probably just figured their userbase will get around to getting a PS3 eventually. It'll probably work out for them in the end.
That was mostly because it was the market leader then. From what I understand, the Wii has about 5 or so up coming RPGs. PS3 has more at the moment, but I'm doubting it'll be that way forever.
I was hoping multi-platform, would have been better for everyone.
I don't think I have 600$ worth of love for Disgaea. I have a lot, but, ya know, not 600 loves worth.
Truth. I love NIS and Atlus to death, but $600 is a very sizable roadblock to me. Now if a new SMT game was announced for the PS3, I would spend the next few months subsisting off of Ramen Noodles to afford it.
Personally, I love this announcement, as it means that the niche games are still finding a home on the PS3. I keep becoming increasingly glad I got one. Also, I think you guys are forgetting that one of the two bigger JRPGs is on the PS3. This means that at least a giant chunk of the fanbase will be purchasing a PS3 for FF13. Where FF goes, I'd guess a lot of the JRPGs will follow. As I said, it's just because they know there'll be a fanbase. I mean, after they're done with the FF13 games, the JRPG fans have to have something else to play.
Still, even the Wii is going to have an RPG fanbase. Dragon Quest Swords for instance, sold 200,000 copies in one day.
If they just think everyone will instantly go over, well... That makes no sense.
But DQ:S isn't an RPG. So, it really doesn't guarantee any sort of JRPG fanbase on the system. I mean, I'd say the system probably does have some, mainly just because how many bought it there is bound to be some on it, but it doesn't guarantee like a main Dragon Quest or a Final Fantasy will.
Still, even the Wii is going to have an RPG fanbase. Dragon Quest Swords for instance, sold 200,000 copies in one day.
If they just think everyone will instantly go over, well... That makes no sense.
But DQ:S isn't an RPG. So, it really doesn't guarantee any sort of JRPG fanbase on the system. I mean, I'd say the system probably does have some, mainly just because how many bought it there is bound to be some on it, but it doesn't guarantee like a main Dragon Quest or a Final Fantasy will.
It is an RPG, just a bit different. From what I understand, it still has upgradeable armor, stats, etc. Everything a normal game has, just with a different battle system style (and rails).
Disgaea 3 and an SMT game are the only things that would make me buy a PS3. I don't want to have to buy one. I am hoping beyond hope that this is fake.
Wow, this blows my mind, considering that I probably won't buy a ps3 till it is at least 300 dollars, but that's still pushing it.
Disappointing, since I have every NIS developed game and a lot of their art books. But I can't afford this.
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DVGNo. 1 Honor StudentNether Institute, Evil AcademyRegistered Userregular
edited July 2007
Christ, people.
Why is it that there is no good reason to buy a PS3 because there "aren't any good games", but when a good game does get announced for it, it's like the publisher that did it committed some sort of sin.
I am going to be watching this with great interest. There are already a few good titles on the system and there will be many more down the road. It's not "$600 for Disgaea" is "$600 to play a bunch of games, starting with Disgaea"
Why is it that there is no good reason to buy a PS3 because there "aren't any good games", but when a good game does get announced for it, it's like the publisher that did it committed some sort of sin.
I am actually surprised they moved this soon the the PS3. I figured they'd make Disgaea 3 for the PS2, and move to the PS3 in a couple of years when there is a broader install base ... it seems like Nippon Ichi titles need the larger base to be viable, but maybe Disgaea has enough of a name for itself now that they figure it can survive and do well this early in the PS3 life cycle.
While I would love to see NIS make Wii games (and feel the system is a better fit for them), I've always had the feeling that they would stick with Sony ... whether it is due to serious Sony lovin' or staying with the familiar, I don't know.
Just adds another game to the list of what I will get once the PS3 drops under my threshold of what I am willing to pay for a game system ($400)
Why is it that there is no good reason to buy a PS3 because there "aren't any good games", but when a good game does get announced for it, it's like the publisher that did it committed some sort of sin.
I am going to be watching this with great interest. There are already a few good titles on the system and there will be many more down the road. It's not "$600 for Disgaea" is "$600 to play a bunch of games, starting with Disgaea"
Because the move on NIS part seems impractical.
Not everyone has 600 dollars - nor the additional 200 dollars for all the extras and games that you talk about.
Furthermore, why the ps3 when it could so easily be developed for other consoles?
I'm sorry, but I do not have a lot of excess income - I'm not saying there isn't a good reason to buy a ps3, I'm just saying their move to develop it for the ps3 seems poor to me.
Again, everything comes down to "is it worth it." The ps3 could have tons of great games, but those games would still never be worth 600 dollars to me.
I don't think I have 600$ worth of love for Disgaea. I have a lot, but, ya know, not 600 loves worth.
Truth. I love NIS and Atlus to death, but $600 is a very sizable roadblock to me. Now if a new SMT game was announced for the PS3, I would spend the next few months subsisting off of Ramen Noodles to afford it.
Personally, I love this announcement, as it means that the niche games are still finding a home on the PS3. I keep becoming increasingly glad I got one. Also, I think you guys are forgetting that one of the two bigger JRPGs is on the PS3. This means that at least a giant chunk of the fanbase will be purchasing a PS3 for FF13. Where FF goes, I'd guess a lot of the JRPGs will follow. As I said, it's just because they know there'll be a fanbase. I mean, after they're done with the FF13 games, the JRPG fans have to have something else to play.
September 7, 2005
Anything newer than this? I mean, I know that SMT will end up on the PS3, but almost two years of no new info?
Why is it that there is no good reason to buy a PS3 because there "aren't any good games", but when a good game does get announced for it, it's like the publisher that did it committed some sort of sin.
Because it's $500.
Christ, DVG.
Fixed that for ya. Even so, there are plenty of good games coming out, so it's pretty ridiculous to say "I'm not paying 500 for disgaea!" It's the same stupid crap that happened with the PSP. People come into a game thread in droves saying "I'm not buying a PSP for just X game" then the next thread pops up and it's "I'm not buying a PSP for just Y game" and it keeps going. No one seems to realize that you'd be buying it for X, Y, Z, A, B, C, D, etc.
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DVGNo. 1 Honor StudentNether Institute, Evil AcademyRegistered Userregular
Why is it that there is no good reason to buy a PS3 because there "aren't any good games", but when a good game does get announced for it, it's like the publisher that did it committed some sort of sin.
I am going to be watching this with great interest. There are already a few good titles on the system and there will be many more down the road. It's not "$600 for Disgaea" is "$600 to play a bunch of games, starting with Disgaea"
Because the move on NIS part seems impractical.
Not everyone has 600 dollars - nor the additional 200 dollars for all the extras and games that you talk about.
Furthermore, why the ps3 when it could so easily be developed for other consoles?
I'm sorry, but I do not have a lot of excess income - I'm not saying there isn't a good reason to buy a ps3, I'm just saying their move to develop it for the ps3 seems poor to me.
Again, everything comes down to "is it worth it." The ps3 could have tons of great games, but those games would still never be worth 600 dollars to me.
I am saying that the only way a console becomes "worth it" is by building up a library that will be appealing to persons other than early adopters. Disgaea is a good addition to that line up. Further, is it really a bad business decision to go where you think your fans are because "well, some people don't have PS3s"
People have mentioned games shouldn't be on the PS3 unless they require the extra horsepower provided. it's equally reasonable to say that games shouldn't be developed for the Wii unless there is something the unique control scheme offers to the game beyond what a traditional controller offers, especially on a heavily menu-base game like disgaea.
If $600 is too high, then well, you have to wait until the price drops, or look into finding a used 20 gig for $300 or so.
All NIS is doing here is throwing support behind the PS3 to help build it into the sort of platform they want it to be. It isn't "wrong".
After Odin Sphere, I don't know how good Disgaea 3 would of had to look for me to be impressed though. OS does some insane things with 2d and 3d and was like the pinnacle for ps2 2d stuff.
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DVGNo. 1 Honor StudentNether Institute, Evil AcademyRegistered Userregular
After Odin Sphere, I don't know how good Disgaea 3 would of had to look for me to be impressed though. OS does some insane things with 2d and 3d and was like the pinnacle for ps2 2d stuff.
Why is it that there is no good reason to buy a PS3 because there "aren't any good games", but when a good game does get announced for it, it's like the publisher that did it committed some sort of sin.
I am going to be watching this with great interest. There are already a few good titles on the system and there will be many more down the road. It's not "$600 for Disgaea" is "$600 to play a bunch of games, starting with Disgaea"
Because the move on NIS part seems impractical.
Not everyone has 600 dollars - nor the additional 200 dollars for all the extras and games that you talk about.
Furthermore, why the ps3 when it could so easily be developed for other consoles?
I'm sorry, but I do not have a lot of excess income - I'm not saying there isn't a good reason to buy a ps3, I'm just saying their move to develop it for the ps3 seems poor to me.
Again, everything comes down to "is it worth it." The ps3 could have tons of great games, but those games would still never be worth 600 dollars to me.
I am saying that the only way a console becomes "worth it" is by building up a library that will be appealing to persons other than early adopters. Disgaea is a good addition to that line up. Further, is it really a bad business decision to go where you think your fans are because "well, some people don't have PS3s"
People have mentioned games shouldn't be on the PS3 unless they require the extra horsepower provided. it's equally reasonable to say that games shouldn't be developed for the Wii unless there is something the unique control scheme offers to the game beyond what a traditional controller offers, especially on a heavily menu-base game like disgaea.
If $600 is too high, then well, you have to wait until the price drops, or look into finding a used 20 gig for $300 or so.
All NIS is doing here is throwing support behind the PS3 to help build it into the sort of platform they want it to be. It isn't "wrong".
Graphics and Waggle seem like two very different things to me.
When the Wii breaks past the 360's 10 million mark next month, while the PS3 is still trying to break past nearly half that, I think we'll see some changes in future lineups.
In short, during the DS/PSP start, everyone bet everything on the PSP and then when the DS blew it out of the water they were left holding the bag.
This time, they seemed to have waited a bit but still decided to pour more resources into the PS3, buying into the PS3 hype.
I'm confused when people go "Holy crap! Awesome game on a system I won't buy because the system costs $XXX"
I know it might be too much to ask, but if you think you want something... You can always save money for it.
That's the only reason I even bought a PS3 when it came out - I had been putting aside like 30 bucks a month for over a year to pay for it.
I dunno. I just find self-imposed price limits kind of stupid. Nothing against any of you, if that's what you do, then fine. I just don't get it.
I'm not as hardcore, I must admit. Sure, I have a large library of games and have two next gen consoles, but I can't justify 600 dollars on a gaming system. I rather spend it on something else - seeing as how lately, as I've gotten older, I've been more apt to stick with 2-3 games for longer periods of time and never play through the newer releases.
When the Wii breaks past the 360's 10 million mark next month, while the PS3 is still trying to break past nearly half that, I think we'll see some changes in future lineups.
In short, during the DS/PSP start, everyone bet everything on the PSP and then when the DS blew it out of the water they were left holding the bag.
This time, they seemed to have waited a bit but still decided to pour more resources into the PS3, buying into the PS3 hype.
So, um, yeah. Multiplatform, NIS, PLz Kthx.
I was pretty happy when my brother had to eat his own words about the DS.
I think at this point it may even be easier for them do some nice 3d models and just use high res textures, instead of making super high res sprites that would look acceptable for the console. Besides the fact that it would likely same then a boat load of cash.
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Truth. I love NIS and Atlus to death, but $600 is a very sizable roadblock to me. Now if a new SMT game was announced for the PS3, I would spend the next few months subsisting off of Ramen Noodles to afford it.
If I absolutely HAD to buy a PS3, I'd pick up a used 20GB and replace the 20GB with a 250GB drive. Can't you get used 20GB PS3s for like, $300 now?
Not sure, but I don't think you can replace the drives.
I could be wrong, though.
http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/upgrade-your-ps3-hard-drive-step-by-step-216550.php
http://www.i4u.com/article7086.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkM9wiZePfs
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainment/playstation-3-disk-too-small-swap-it-out-for-a-monster-drive-216612.php
http://digg.com/gaming_news/Playstation_3_HDD_Replacement_Mini_Guide_120GB_Install_With_Images
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,080,000 for PS3 replace HDD. (0.15 seconds)
cel-shading the same calibre as eternal sonata, though
More truth. I am nothing if not SMT's Uber Whore.
That said, I couldn't really get into Disgaea 2, so I don't mind.
You guys saw some of NIS's PSP releases, yes?
Good decisions aren't exactly their strong suit sometimes, obviously.
Why can't we love all consoles equally
It's not, I think the website said it's a full game and will retail for $59.99.
o_O
I'm starting to preemptively feel sorry for them.
Yeah.
They're a great company, but they REALLY need to hire someone who is a bit better at decision making.
None that I can think of.
That was mostly because it was the market leader then. From what I understand, the Wii has about 5 or so up coming RPGs. PS3 has more at the moment, but I'm doubting it'll be that way forever.
I was hoping multi-platform, would have been better for everyone.
I've seen it a few times, that the series is moving to the PS3.
Personally, I love this announcement, as it means that the niche games are still finding a home on the PS3. I keep becoming increasingly glad I got one. Also, I think you guys are forgetting that one of the two bigger JRPGs is on the PS3. This means that at least a giant chunk of the fanbase will be purchasing a PS3 for FF13. Where FF goes, I'd guess a lot of the JRPGs will follow. As I said, it's just because they know there'll be a fanbase. I mean, after they're done with the FF13 games, the JRPG fans have to have something else to play.
If they just think everyone will instantly go over, well... That makes no sense.
But DQ:S isn't an RPG. So, it really doesn't guarantee any sort of JRPG fanbase on the system. I mean, I'd say the system probably does have some, mainly just because how many bought it there is bound to be some on it, but it doesn't guarantee like a main Dragon Quest or a Final Fantasy will.
It is an RPG, just a bit different. From what I understand, it still has upgradeable armor, stats, etc. Everything a normal game has, just with a different battle system style (and rails).
Goddamn it.
Disappointing, since I have every NIS developed game and a lot of their art books. But I can't afford this.
Why is it that there is no good reason to buy a PS3 because there "aren't any good games", but when a good game does get announced for it, it's like the publisher that did it committed some sort of sin.
I am going to be watching this with great interest. There are already a few good titles on the system and there will be many more down the road. It's not "$600 for Disgaea" is "$600 to play a bunch of games, starting with Disgaea"
Because it's $600.
Christ, DVG.
While I would love to see NIS make Wii games (and feel the system is a better fit for them), I've always had the feeling that they would stick with Sony ... whether it is due to serious Sony lovin' or staying with the familiar, I don't know.
Just adds another game to the list of what I will get once the PS3 drops under my threshold of what I am willing to pay for a game system ($400)
Everything Dragon Quest sells in Japan
Because the move on NIS part seems impractical.
Not everyone has 600 dollars - nor the additional 200 dollars for all the extras and games that you talk about.
Furthermore, why the ps3 when it could so easily be developed for other consoles?
I'm sorry, but I do not have a lot of excess income - I'm not saying there isn't a good reason to buy a ps3, I'm just saying their move to develop it for the ps3 seems poor to me.
Again, everything comes down to "is it worth it." The ps3 could have tons of great games, but those games would still never be worth 600 dollars to me.
September 7, 2005
Anything newer than this? I mean, I know that SMT will end up on the PS3, but almost two years of no new info?
Fixed that for ya. Even so, there are plenty of good games coming out, so it's pretty ridiculous to say "I'm not paying 500 for disgaea!" It's the same stupid crap that happened with the PSP. People come into a game thread in droves saying "I'm not buying a PSP for just X game" then the next thread pops up and it's "I'm not buying a PSP for just Y game" and it keeps going. No one seems to realize that you'd be buying it for X, Y, Z, A, B, C, D, etc.
I am saying that the only way a console becomes "worth it" is by building up a library that will be appealing to persons other than early adopters. Disgaea is a good addition to that line up. Further, is it really a bad business decision to go where you think your fans are because "well, some people don't have PS3s"
People have mentioned games shouldn't be on the PS3 unless they require the extra horsepower provided. it's equally reasonable to say that games shouldn't be developed for the Wii unless there is something the unique control scheme offers to the game beyond what a traditional controller offers, especially on a heavily menu-base game like disgaea.
If $600 is too high, then well, you have to wait until the price drops, or look into finding a used 20 gig for $300 or so.
All NIS is doing here is throwing support behind the PS3 to help build it into the sort of platform they want it to be. It isn't "wrong".
EDIT: Nevermind.
Graphics and Waggle seem like two very different things to me.
I know it might be too much to ask, but if you think you want something... You can always save money for it.
That's the only reason I even bought a PS3 when it came out - I had been putting aside like 30 bucks a month for over a year to pay for it.
I dunno. I just find self-imposed price limits kind of stupid. Nothing against any of you, if that's what you do, then fine. I just don't get it.
When the Wii breaks past the 360's 10 million mark next month, while the PS3 is still trying to break past nearly half that, I think we'll see some changes in future lineups.
In short, during the DS/PSP start, everyone bet everything on the PSP and then when the DS blew it out of the water they were left holding the bag.
This time, they seemed to have waited a bit but still decided to pour more resources into the PS3, buying into the PS3 hype.
So, um, yeah. Multiplatform, NIS, PLz Kthx.
My feeble mind can hardly make the connections. I lol'ed. ;-)
Jokes aside, I would really love to see a huge overhaul of graphics for this series.
I'm not as hardcore, I must admit. Sure, I have a large library of games and have two next gen consoles, but I can't justify 600 dollars on a gaming system. I rather spend it on something else - seeing as how lately, as I've gotten older, I've been more apt to stick with 2-3 games for longer periods of time and never play through the newer releases.
I was pretty happy when my brother had to eat his own words about the DS.