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Ghost Hunting/Adventuring

Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
edited July 2007 in Debate and/or Discourse
For fans of the show Ghost Hunters, there is a new documentary playing after this week's episode called "Ghost Adventures". A couple of investigators filmed at some of the most haunted areas of Nevada, including a site rumored to be "One of the 7 Portals to Hell". They even claim to have caught a full bodied apparition on tape. There is a myspace page, but naturally I can't link to it at work.

That out of the way; any other fans of Ghost Hunters here? I've been watching since the first episode and consider it one of the best shows out there. My wife likes it too, which is a huge bonus; we usually don't agree on most TV shows.

Do you have inspirations of being a ghost hunter, starting up your own group and checking the haunted locations of your city? Do you think the show is fake? Should Jason smack Brian for being a little douche? Anyone know what the unexplained six month delay was about?





Edit to make it more a "I *noun* this show and others like it" thread, and less another "lawl God, religion, personal beliefs" thread.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    People who believe in ghosts are silly, and also unfortunately numerous.

    However the shows are usually pretty entertaining.

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  • TrevorTrevor Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I like being creeped out as much as the next guy, but I'd rather read Scary Stories to Tell in the dark than watch some dudes run around an abandoned building trying to see things that have never been seen before. That being said, shows like that can have their occasional tense moment or two.

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  • Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    People who believe in ghosts are silly, and also unfortunately numerous.

    Why is it silly? I realize that some people find the idea of ghosts silly, but why? Is it the idea of the human spirit? Or is it the idea of the spirit not moving on for some reason? Would it be as silly if a ghost was commonly thought of as energy caught in a natural loop?

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  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    People who believe in ghosts are silly, and also unfortunately numerous.

    Why is it silly? I realize that some people find the idea of ghosts silly, but why? Is it the idea of the human spirit? Or is it the idea of the spirit not moving on for some reason? Would it be as silly if a ghost was commonly thought of as energy caught in a natural loop?

    it requires not only belief in an afterlife, but also that there can be some sort of flaw in that system which leaves certain souls on earth. these souls are extremely hard to see or experience at all, and apparently can only be caught on really shitty grainy film.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I love the concept, but I've never cared much for those shows. I'd definitely enjoy doing it myself.

    I mean, I don't believe in ghosts, but in the right environment, your imagination tends to overrule your reason, and it's a good fun time finding creepy shit.

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  • Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Variable wrote: »
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    People who believe in ghosts are silly, and also unfortunately numerous.

    Why is it silly? I realize that some people find the idea of ghosts silly, but why? Is it the idea of the human spirit? Or is it the idea of the spirit not moving on for some reason? Would it be as silly if a ghost was commonly thought of as energy caught in a natural loop?

    it requires not only belief in an afterlife, but also that there can be some sort of flaw in that system which leaves certain souls on earth. these souls are extremely hard to see or experience at all, and apparently can only be caught on really shitty grainy film.

    Even Hollywood IR still sucks ass.

    The idea that it is just energy caught in a flux does away with the afterlife part of the equation.




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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    People who believe in ghosts are silly, and also unfortunately numerous.

    Why is it silly? I realize that some people find the idea of ghosts silly, but why? Is it the idea of the human spirit? Or is it the idea of the spirit not moving on for some reason? Would it be as silly if a ghost was commonly thought of as energy caught in a natural loop?

    It is silly for the same reason that believing in psychics in cornerstores and bad-luck black cats and tarot cards and crystals to cure cancer and magnets that cure mortality is silly.

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  • musanmanmusanman Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I lived in a haunted dorm, have a tough time not believing in ghosts after that.

    I had lights go on and off, doors swing open and close right in front of me, stuff moved around...lotsa creepy stuff.

    I'm as "logical explanation" as the next guy, but that place was sweeeeeet.

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    People who believe in ghosts are silly, and also unfortunately numerous.

    Why is it silly? I realize that some people find the idea of ghosts silly, but why? Is it the idea of the human spirit? Or is it the idea of the spirit not moving on for some reason? Would it be as silly if a ghost was commonly thought of as energy caught in a natural loop?

    it requires not only belief in an afterlife, but also that there can be some sort of flaw in that system which leaves certain souls on earth. these souls are extremely hard to see or experience at all, and apparently can only be caught on really shitty grainy film.

    Even Hollywood IR still sucks ass. The idea that it is just energy caught in a flux does do away with afterlife bit.

    It also makes no damn sense whatsoever.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    energy caught in a flux

    What is this

    This doesn't mean anything

    It sounds like something Geordie says in an episode of Star Trek to explain the current technobabble problem they are experiencing

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  • Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I don't know physics.

    The theory being like data caught on disc, being replayed. A Residual Haunting


    - Edit for finding link.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    I don't know physics.

    The theory being like data caught on disc, being replayed. (Trying to find a link)

    I think I know the one you're talking about now

    But there's really no scientific explanation that matches that theory

    There's not really much energy in the human body, and there's nothing that makes that energy special (nor anything that would make it visible).

    I think that to believe in ghosts, you have to really want to believe in ghosts.

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  • TachTach Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    A buddy of mine runs a haunted house attraction in New Hampshire. He had the guys from Ghost Hunters do a public appearance last year- it was a big hit. Those guys are popular up there, apparently.

    Myself, I've always wanted to go and do that sort of thing. I'm half skeptic, and half believer, and that mix has had me curious forever.

    I'd love to do an overnight at the Winchester Mansion in San Jose. LOVE it.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    energy caught in a flux

    What is this

    This doesn't mean anything

    It sounds like something Geordie says in an episode of Star Trek to explain the current technobabble problem they are experiencing

    What's not to get?

    It's clear that what he means is that the human soul is simply a bioetheric energy field laid over the matrix of our neural pathways. When we die, that matrix is removed, and sometimes our souls get caught in a subspace disturbance, resulting in 73% damage to the structural integrity fields.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    musanman wrote: »
    I lived in a haunted dorm, have a tough time not believing in ghosts after that.

    I had lights go on and off, doors swing open and close right in front of me, stuff moved around...lotsa creepy stuff.

    I'm as "logical explanation" as the next guy, but that place was sweeeeeet.

    Lights going on and off? Poorly wired/maintained wiring.

    Doors swinging open and close? Strong breezes or pressure differences in the house caused by other doors opening or closing, or air conditioning/heating units.

    Weird sounds are generally animals in the walls.

    Also the simple fact that if there was a such thing as ghosts you'd think they'd have better things to do than dick around with random people by slamming doors.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I like ghost hunters, it's creepy enough at times, and the guys on the show are usually down to earth and as "scientific" about it as their chosen field allows. I also just like Jason and Grant they are funny, but helpful seeing as they are plumber in their daytime field a lot of times people just have bad pipes. I think the show is not too grandstanding as there are some episodes where nothing happens.

    I guess I am silly.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    energy caught in a flux

    What is this

    This doesn't mean anything

    It sounds like something Geordie says in an episode of Star Trek to explain the current technobabble problem they are experiencing

    What's not to get?

    It's clear that what he means is that the human soul is simply a bioetheric energy field laid over the matrix of our neural pathways. When we die, that matrix is removed, and sometimes our souls get caught in a subspace disturbance, resulting in 73% damage to the structural integrity fields.

    That's ridiculous. Damage in that proportion would disturb the integrity of the bioetheric field to such an extent that it would splinter according to the Evans-Wilhelm distributive properties.

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  • Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    I don't know physics.

    The theory being like data caught on disc, being replayed. (Trying to find a link)

    I think I know the one you're talking about now

    But there's really no scientific explanation that matches that theory

    There's not really much energy in the human body, and there's nothing that makes that energy special (nor anything that would make it visible).

    I think that to believe in ghosts, you have to really want to believe in ghosts.

    There are people who believe in ghosts who weren't exactly looking for a reason too.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    I don't know physics.

    The theory being like data caught on disc, being replayed. (Trying to find a link)

    I think I know the one you're talking about now

    But there's really no scientific explanation that matches that theory

    There's not really much energy in the human body, and there's nothing that makes that energy special (nor anything that would make it visible).

    I think that to believe in ghosts, you have to really want to believe in ghosts.

    There are people who believe in ghosts who weren't exactly looking for a reason too.

    That is true; some people are, in fact, crazy.

    I have yet to hear of someone who believed in ghosts because their family was murdered by a poltergeist who got into the knife drawer or something.

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  • MikeManMikeMan Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    energy caught in a flux

    What is this

    This doesn't mean anything

    It sounds like something Geordie says in an episode of Star Trek to explain the current technobabble problem they are experiencing

    What's not to get?

    It's clear that what he means is that the human soul is simply a bioetheric energy field laid over the matrix of our neural pathways. When we die, that matrix is removed, and sometimes our souls get caught in a subspace disturbance, resulting in 73% damage to the structural integrity fields.

    That's ridiculous. Damage in that proportion would disturb the integrity of the bioetheric field to such an extent that it would splinter according to the Evans-Wilhelm distributive properties.

    Not in the slightest. The only way the integrity of the bioetheric field is disturbed is through subspace warping, and that only occurs in response to naturally occurring Rosenbaum-Reichstag high point energy reanimation principles.

    Jesus, you could at least read "A Brief History of Endothermic Bioelectric Fractal Fields" before you start spouting shit.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    MikeMan wrote: »
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    energy caught in a flux

    What is this

    This doesn't mean anything

    It sounds like something Geordie says in an episode of Star Trek to explain the current technobabble problem they are experiencing

    What's not to get?

    It's clear that what he means is that the human soul is simply a bioetheric energy field laid over the matrix of our neural pathways. When we die, that matrix is removed, and sometimes our souls get caught in a subspace disturbance, resulting in 73% damage to the structural integrity fields.

    That's ridiculous. Damage in that proportion would disturb the integrity of the bioetheric field to such an extent that it would splinter according to the Evans-Wilhelm distributive properties.

    Not in the slightest. The only way the integrity of the bioetheric field is disturbed is through subspace warping, and that only occurs in response to naturally occurring Rosenbaum-Reichstag high point energy reanimation principles.

    Jesus, you could at least read "A Brief History of Endothermic Bioelectric Fractal Fields" before you start spouting shit.

    Clearly you are misinformed, since ABHoEBFF was written before the Dracip's pioneering efforts in the field of bioetheric disruption, which showed that the stability of the field is dependent on a host of Bjornsfeld vectors. In fact, the bioetheric field is a steadily decaying wave function once integrity descends below 60%.

    Asshole.

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  • MikeManMikeMan Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    MikeMan wrote: »
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    energy caught in a flux

    What is this

    This doesn't mean anything

    It sounds like something Geordie says in an episode of Star Trek to explain the current technobabble problem they are experiencing

    What's not to get?

    It's clear that what he means is that the human soul is simply a bioetheric energy field laid over the matrix of our neural pathways. When we die, that matrix is removed, and sometimes our souls get caught in a subspace disturbance, resulting in 73% damage to the structural integrity fields.

    That's ridiculous. Damage in that proportion would disturb the integrity of the bioetheric field to such an extent that it would splinter according to the Evans-Wilhelm distributive properties.

    Not in the slightest. The only way the integrity of the bioetheric field is disturbed is through subspace warping, and that only occurs in response to naturally occurring Rosenbaum-Reichstag high point energy reanimation principles.

    Jesus, you could at least read "A Brief History of Endothermic Bioelectric Fractal Fields" before you start spouting shit.

    Clearly you are misinformed, since ABHoEBFF was written before the Dracip's pioneering efforts in the field of bioetheric disruption, which showed that the stability of the field is dependent on a host of Bjornsfeld vectors. In fact, the bioetheric field is a steadily decaying wave function once integrity descends below 60%.

    Asshole.

    I was unaware that Dracip had demonstrated the dependency of the field to a sufficient degree to justify an outright acceptance of the Bjornsfeld vectors. But, I will concede that the wave function decays, though I disagree with your assertion that it occurs below 60%. I think 70% is a far more accurate figure.

    You win this time, fuckwipe.
    :lol:

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I'm not g ghost beleiver but I always loved exploring abandoned creepy kinds of places.

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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited July 2007
    Frankie loves this show and watches it religiously. Next week I'm taking her on some sort of Boston ghost tour, since it's her birthday. Last year it was the Lizzie Bordon house, and the year before it was a Salem ghost tour.

    That said, I think the whole thing is pretty fucking retarded, but whatever.

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  • Andrew_JayAndrew_Jay Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Frankie loves this show and watches it religiously. Next week I'm taking her on some sort of Boston ghost tour, since it's her birthday. Last year it was the Lizzie Bordon house, and the year before it was a Salem ghost tour.

    That said, I think the whole thing is pretty fucking retarded, but whatever.
    My girlfriend is always watching it too, but mostly to make fun of it - which I think is more annoying than if she were actually into it.

    Back home there was an awesome "haunted hike" walking tour of the downtown - lots of ghost stories but also a lot of interesting local history. I always enjoyed it, and the guys who lead the tour are awesome presenters.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Andrew_Jay wrote: »
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Frankie loves this show and watches it religiously. Next week I'm taking her on some sort of Boston ghost tour, since it's her birthday. Last year it was the Lizzie Bordon house, and the year before it was a Salem ghost tour.

    That said, I think the whole thing is pretty fucking retarded, but whatever.
    My girlfriend is always watching it too, but mostly to make fun of it - which I think is more annoying than if she were actually into it.

    Back home there was an awesome "haunted hike" walking tour of the downtown - lots of ghost stories but also a lot of interesting local history. I always enjoyed it, and the guys who lead the tour are awesome presenters.

    There is such a haunted walk downtown here in Ottawa, is that what you are referring to? If not that is weird

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I was supposed to go on a ghost walk in washington last year, but we had some bad flooding in the areas and it was called off, I hope I get to go this year. I love local color stories more then for a want of anything spooky.

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  • Andrew_JayAndrew_Jay Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    There is such a haunted walk downtown here in Ottawa, is that what you are referring to? If not that is weird
    Nope. Haunted Hike in St. John's.

    Aside from their craptacular website, I'm 99% certain that it's awesomer than anything you have in Ottawa :P

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  • precisionkprecisionk Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I am a pretty firm believer in ghosts. I feel its in the same realm that aliens are probably out there. No reason to make a gigantic ass universe and not have weird shit happening. So I feel if aliens are real, then ghosts certainly could be as well.

    Besides, I have had my own personal experiences enough to justify my belief.

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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited July 2007
    precisionk wrote: »
    I am a pretty firm believer in ghosts. I feel its in the same realm that aliens are probably out there. No reason to make a gigantic ass universe and not have weird shit happening. So I feel if aliens are real, then ghosts certainly could be as well.

    Besides, I have had my own personal experiences enough to justify my belief.

    So if a ghost fought an alien who would win?

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Andrew_Jay wrote: »
    There is such a haunted walk downtown here in Ottawa, is that what you are referring to? If not that is weird
    Nope. Haunted Hike in St. John's.

    Aside from their craptacular website, I'm 99% certain that it's awesomer than anything you have in Ottawa :P

    Hey man

    We have the Canadian government

    oooOOOOOOooooo

    terrifying

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    precisionk wrote: »
    I am a pretty firm believer in ghosts. I feel its in the same realm that aliens are probably out there. No reason to make a gigantic ass universe and not have weird shit happening. So I feel if aliens are real, then ghosts certainly could be as well.

    Besides, I have had my own personal experiences enough to justify my belief.

    Aliens are plausible because it just requires conditions to cause life somewhere else in the universe. Ghosts are implausible because they are impossible.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    titmouse wrote: »
    precisionk wrote: »
    I am a pretty firm believer in ghosts. I feel its in the same realm that aliens are probably out there. No reason to make a gigantic ass universe and not have weird shit happening. So I feel if aliens are real, then ghosts certainly could be as well.

    Besides, I have had my own personal experiences enough to justify my belief.

    Aliens are plausible because it just requires conditions to cause life somewhere else in the universe. Ghosts are implausible because they are impossible.

    Nothing is impossible! Watch as I strike a match on this bar of soap.

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  • OctoparrotOctoparrot Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    titmouse wrote: »
    precisionk wrote: »
    I am a pretty firm believer in ghosts. I feel its in the same realm that aliens are probably out there. No reason to make a gigantic ass universe and not have weird shit happening. So I feel if aliens are real, then ghosts certainly could be as well.

    Besides, I have had my own personal experiences enough to justify my belief.

    Aliens are plausible because it just requires conditions to cause life somewhere else in the universe. Ghosts are implausible because they are impossible.

    So Unicorns and Dragons exist, just on another planet?

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Octoparrot wrote: »
    titmouse wrote: »
    precisionk wrote: »
    I am a pretty firm believer in ghosts. I feel its in the same realm that aliens are probably out there. No reason to make a gigantic ass universe and not have weird shit happening. So I feel if aliens are real, then ghosts certainly could be as well.

    Besides, I have had my own personal experiences enough to justify my belief.

    Aliens are plausible because it just requires conditions to cause life somewhere else in the universe. Ghosts are implausible because they are impossible.

    So Unicorns and Dragons exist, just on another planet?

    Probably so. I imagine it might be easier to find virgins than over here.

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  • Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    St Augustine had some really fun ghost tours. I didn't go on the light house tour, but plan to the next time I go there.

    The disscussion for belief in ghosts seems to be going the way of belief in God; a pure charlie foxtrot. Sadly, I can not right that ship.

    Thoughts on the show perhaps.

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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited July 2007
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    St Augustine had some really fun ghost tours. I didn't go on the light house tour, but plan to the next time I go there.

    Man that dude's ghost tours are a drag. I'm all waiting to see some orbs or apparitions or hell even a little EVP, and all he'll do is drone on about how he stole a peach at one point but later put childish things behind him.

    Fuck that guy. I'm doing Crazy Tom Aquinas' Ghost Tour next time.

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  • Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    St Augustine had some really fun ghost tours. I didn't go on the light house tour, but plan to the next time I go there.

    Man that dude's ghost tours are a drag. I'm all waiting to see some orbs or apparitions or hell even a little EVP, and all he'll do is drone on about how he stole a peach at one point but later put childish things behind him.

    Fuck that guy. I'm doing Crazy Tom Aquinas' Ghost Tour next time.

    Which one did you go on? The one we did went through the cemetary, the old wood shop, and the jailhouse.

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  • FawkesFawkes __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    It is silly for the same reason that believing in psychics in cornerstores and bad-luck black cats and tarot cards and crystals to cure cancer and magnets that cure mortality is silly.

    Totally, people who say they know things they can't prove either way are complete morons.

    oops

    Perhaps it's silly to be quite so convinced there is nothing going on outside your own little take on the universe.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Fawkes wrote: »
    It is silly for the same reason that believing in psychics in cornerstores and bad-luck black cats and tarot cards and crystals to cure cancer and magnets that cure mortality is silly.

    Totally, people who say they know things they can't prove either way are complete morons.

    oops

    Perhaps it's silly to be quite so convinced there is nothing going on outside your own little take on the universe.

    Enjoy your next trip to the psychics convention

    Pick me up a luck potion

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