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The Art of War: Miniature Modelling and Painting

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  • TechnicalityTechnicality Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Added some figureheady totem bits to the front of my gorkamorka cutters (they are getting quite big for "small" vehicles). Still need more attachments I think.
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    And made my first grot crewman. I did the feet right after doing the hand, and because I wasn't really paying attention he only has four toes on each foot :P
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    I can't be bothered to do them again, so I think I'll just call him fourtoes. What do you think of the octagonal base (its a small whfb base with the corners cut off)? Still too big for gorkamorka? Any better ideas before I stick him down and paint?

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  • DayspringDayspring the Phoenician Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Who cares if it's getting a bit big, all the more room to cram in Grots.
    That is some nice sculpting man. Did you, or anyone else for that matter, see this?

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  • EinEin CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I really like the cutters with the new figureheads up front. Do these things not have any guns?

    Here's the next one of the group, making ten total. I tau-ized this one, adding a shield drone to the front, and a pair of burst cannons to the side of the bike.

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    I am saving the sidecar / quad ideas for the Nobz bikes - one nob for each 12-biker squad. I'm making them at the end of each dozen as a sort of 'reward' for continuing the mob. :)

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  • ToothyToothy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Well, if it's a reward, I want to see two bikes taped together, with grots at the steering bars. And a nob with a huge gun standing on a roughshod platform.

    I totally might draw this later in a Napoleon Dynamite fashion.

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  • leafleaf Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Is it ok if I ask how much all those cost you?

    Or are you uncomfortable with sharing which limb or organ you had to give up?

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  • EinEin CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    leaf wrote: »
    Is it ok if I ask how much all those cost you?

    Or are you uncomfortable with sharing which limb or organ you had to give up?

    If you're asking me in reference to the bikes, it cost... well, probably a hundred and a bit. It was part of a big order I placed that I got 30% off on, and the order was 250 in total. I'm still looking for a couple more boxes on the cheap, honestly, or at least other bikes I can loot.

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  • Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Asher wrote: »
    Dayspring wrote: »
    400 infantry? How many days did each movement phase last? :D

    400 Infantry on our side. We started at about 9 in the morning and finished about 6. We got 3 turns a side in. I'll stick up some pics in the 40k thread.

    It really does;t take that long. In the last Apoc game I had 300 conscripts. That's just the models I had. SJ Had an entire Green Horde, plus there was an eldar player and a sisters player on our team.

    These are JUST the models I had.
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  • DayspringDayspring the Phoenician Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    leaf wrote: »
    Is it ok if I ask how much all those cost you?

    Or are you uncomfortable with sharing which limb or organ you had to give up?

    If you're asking me in reference to the bikes, it cost... well, probably a hundred and a bit. It was part of a big order I placed that I got 30% off on, and the order was 250 in total. I'm still looking for a couple more boxes on the cheap, honestly, or at least other bikes I can loot.
    I watched some TV earlier this evening (which I do not normally do) and there was a show on in which a horrendous fashionable outfit was described at £200 as being a bargain. I felt better about spending however much i spend on little dudes after that.

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  • TechnicalityTechnicality Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I really like the cutters with the new figureheads up front. Do these things not have any guns?

    Unfortunately not. Grots only get a mounted gun on the big vehicles. They are supposed to be more buggy sized, but mine have evolved into something bigger.

    Reading the rules of gorkamorka has made me all nostalgic about what warhammer used to be like. If a rebel grot wants a weapon upgrade, he goes to a mek and pretends to be on official business. You roll a dice, and theres a special table of hilarious calamity that can befall him on just such an occasion.

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  • AsherAsher Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Don't the big luggas have catapults or something? I always felt sympathetic for the Grot cause after all, they work for a pittance and all the kicks they can't dodge.

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  • EinEin CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Here's bike 11 - this one has been commandeered by a pair of ambitious gretchin. One drives, the other shoots.

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    Nob next, I suppose. :)

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  • MouschiMouschi Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    poor driver gretchin can't see! CUTE WIDDLE GWETCHIN

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Mouschi wrote: »
    poor driver gretchin can't see! CUTE WIDDLE GWETCHIN
    Doesn't look like he can reach the peddles either.
    Tie some blocks to his feet Ein!

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  • It BurnsIt Burns Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Finished painting most of my warboss last night, all I need is that Tharka Green wash for his skin and maybe a few highlights on the leather.

    I included the unpainted powerklaw so you can at least see the whole thing. I'll probably paint it tomorow when I finish working the greenstuff.

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    The squig colours may seem a bit unusual, all I see is red and purple ones, but that's because I based it on my huge 35 pound cat.
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    If I ever play apocalypse I'll use him as a squiggoth :P

    I'm thinking about mostly red for the power klaw, or a darkish green like my Tau are painted since it was made almost entirely from Tau parts. Any suggestions?

    Edit: I need a camera... my phone sucks at this.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I'd keep the claw colored like the tau that you've got. Maybe when you base him you could scatter some tau bits at his feet, make it look like he just got done kicking ass and taking names (along with sharp worky bitz), and now wants to kick a little more ass before bed time (where he will dream about kicking ass).

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  • DayspringDayspring the Phoenician Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    awww! That is such a cute kitty!

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  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Dayspring wrote: »
    awww! That is such a cute kitty!
    http://xkcd.com/231/
    Apparently proximity to a depiction of a kitty is enough in extreme cases....

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  • NiklasNiklas SwedenRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Tech, Ein and It Burns; to all of you, it´s looking great! That power claw really turned out nicely, by the way. It´s nice to see it attached on the model.

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  • IanatorIanator A predator cannot differentiate between prey and accompliceRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    That power klaw is awesome! It's even got a kombi-skorcha on da side!

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  • TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    That cat looks a lot like my cat, with a 25 pound difference >.>

    Maine Coon?

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  • It BurnsIt Burns Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Niklas wrote: »
    Tech, Ein and It Burns; to all of you, it´s looking great! That power claw really turned out nicely, by the way. It´s nice to see it attached on the model.

    Thanks, I'll upload some better pictures when it's actually done and attached for sure.
    Ianator wrote: »
    That power klaw is awesome! It's even got a kombi-skorcha on da side!

    It's a 3-in-1 weapon! No Warboss should leave home withtout it!
    That cat looks a lot like my cat, with a 25 pound difference >.>

    Maine Coon?

    Yup. Best cat ever.

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  • TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Mine's the runt of the litter, so he'll never be that huge. I like him this size though.

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  • It BurnsIt Burns Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Maine Coons are the Space Marines of Catdom, servants of the cat emperor of catkind. He attacked me once and let's just say Khore would be pleased with his offerings. D:

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  • TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Well, I guess since my cat is the runt, he's kind of a sissy. We box from time to time but that's about it.

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  • AsherAsher Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I worked a bit more on Caine:
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    Dark but in focus

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    Bright but out of focus!
    Put together they make 1 good photo.
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    I see your fancy breed and raise you an an enourmous alley cat. He has a heart of gold. And FAT

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  • DayspringDayspring the Phoenician Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    That is some nice red on his coat! Very nice.

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  • TechnicalityTechnicality Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
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    First time using the new washes. They are very nice, but a bit more dilute than I'm used to. I've not sploshed away at a model in a long time.

    I'm not quite happy with the base. I experimented a lot with the browns I have (bestial, graveyard earth, scorched, khemri, bleached bone, flesh wash, devlan mud) and the above was the closest I got (its 50/50 khemri bleached bone, with bb & white highlights). Its passable, but I'd prefer something closer to actual desert. Anyone got any good recipes for desert bases, or tips on new browns I should get and have a go with?

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  • LeztaLezta Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I tend to find a bit of snakebite leather or even a little bit of yellow helps bring the desert sand effect. It's not particularly easy to achieve though.

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  • DayspringDayspring the Phoenician Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Yeah, looks a little more stone than sand.
    The grot himself looks great though.

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  • EinEin CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    So I've not yet forgotten about my bikers. :) The Nob's about halfway done, but I figured I'd throw pictures up to prove that I am still working on the project despite the little lull.

    I started with all sorts of ambitious ideas for the Nob before I realized that I also intend to make a Wazdakka, and if I loaded the Nob up too much it'd be very hard to tell which one is supposed to be the character! That said, I opted for a power klaw for the Nob, but I wanted one that also looked like it could be functional for riding - I can't see an ork steering very well with klaw blades shearing through the handle bars by accident. :) The metal fist bit is from the fantasy miniature, I believe his name is Gorbad Ironclaw?

    Anyway, I tacked that on, greenstuffed the seams a bit, made some quick hydraulics from sheet styrene, adding cabling, and that was that.

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    I actually made a sidecar for this at first before I decided to scrap it - I didn't like the way it was looking, and I honestly couldn't picture any sort of gun mount in my head that didn't also interfere with the positioning of the handlebars or the nob himself. I peeled that off and strapped two wheels to the sides instead for a trike type design. I've put a very basic wheel guard over them for now, but before I take it much farther I have to figure out where the guns are going on this. I may try putting them further up on the body of the bike, just behind the forks.

    Anyway, I'm still going at it, but suggestions would be nice. :) I already have a fun banner pole in mind, though.

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  • AlazullAlazull Your body is not a temple, it's an amusement park. Enjoy the ride.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    If you're putting two guns on the bike, and if it is even possible, it would be so awesome to mount them on the back or midsection of the bike so that their barrels are on either side of the Nob himself. That's just my opinion of course, I have no idea how to do it but if someone can it's probably you.

    @Asher: Caine looks awesome. The trim fits him without getting Menoth-gaudy. How did you paint the metallic parts? It looks like it could be NMM.

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  • WulfWulf Disciple of Tzeentch The Void... (New Jersey)Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I have to agree with the fella who suggested an AA type gun like in Waterworld on the back of that bike, aimed by a grot or two of course!

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  • DayspringDayspring the Phoenician Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    gun on the back!
    gun on the back!

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  • Tw4winTw4win Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    A little late but I'll SIGN UP for this thread.

    I'm currently in the process of putting together a "Green Tide" ork army and a normal ork Army. The goal is to finish the Green Tide first and then move on to the stuff I need for the regular army (mainly trucks and some elites)

    In order to finish off the Green Tide army I need to construct the following:

    48 Slugga Boys
    58 Shoota Boys
    15 Boys with Rockkits
    5 Nobs
    9 Loota Boys
    3 Meks with Rockkets

    The goal is to get all of that together and primed by next Saturday so I can test out the army against a friend.

    Painting will take place afterward over the course of a couple of months. That being said, my real issue is with painting. I've come up with a color scheme that I like for the orks but it's fairly complex and requires a lot of drybrushing (pictures to come later).

    I've never really mastered the art of non-drybrush painting. I've painted up a Dark Angels and Deathwing army all using drybrushing and both armies came out looking rather nice. The idea of highlighting using layers just doesn't gel with me. I mean, I get the theory (I guess) but the practice of it doesn't really make sense:

    Start with a basecoat
    Thin another color and paint over the basecoat, leaving some areas of the basecoat exposed
    Thin another color and paint over the previous layer, leaving some of it exposed.

    The issues I have are:

    1) How much should I thin each coat of paint?
    2) I feel like my artistic ability to leave each previous coat exposed probably isn't all that great. I just imagine that my efforts at this will come off looking stiff with lots of rather obvious layers. Besides, how much does one leave exposed?

    So, if there are any masters of this layering technique out there I'd really appreciate a detailed tutorial because I'd like to at least try painting my army that way. I certainly have enough boys to practice on.

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  • TechnicalityTechnicality Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Tw4win wrote: »
    1) How much should I thin each coat of paint?
    2) I feel like my artistic ability to leave each previous coat exposed probably isn't all that great. I just imagine that my efforts at this will come off looking stiff with lots of rather obvious layers. Besides, how much does one leave exposed?

    1 - Experiment until you find what works for you. It shouldn't be so thick that you get 100% coverage, but it shouldn't be so thin that you can't tell the difference after you've done it. Everything in between depends on style, colour and circumstances.
    2 - To start off with, drybrush a model and look at which areas get touched by the paint. Then try to paint these areas in instead of drybrushing. When you get more confident you can try picking out areas that you want to accentuate to create detail that doesn't exist and directional lighting. (this is where the real strength of layering lies).

    eg. For the grot skin I posted above:
    -I started the skin off with catachan green
    -Followed up by painting the areas that a thorough drybrushing would reach with goblin/catachan green mix.
    -Then painted the areas a light drybrushing would reach with goblin green.
    -Then finished off by picking out areas I wanted to accentuate (cheekbones, top of nose, brow, knuckles) with goblin green mixed with yellow and white.

    I didn't dilute the paints very much apart from the last two stages, because its faster not to. This does lead to the layers being more noticeable though, like on the tan bits of the back of his robe. The more dilute the smoother it will look, but the more layers you will need to apply to reach the same colour. Personally I'm not bothered if the layers are a little obvious for most models, and if they are adding an additional highlight or a glaze will usually fix it.

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  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I actually really like the base on that grot. It looks like salt flats, which works pretty well with the sail buggies.

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  • PhilodoxPhilodox Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I picked up ELylyth on Friday and she's done. I had a great time painting this model. Looking at the photo I need to brighten her fingers a little bit, but otherwise I'm very pleased with how it turned out.

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  • EinEin CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    So I've been working on the Nob'z bike for a little bit today, and I've gotten it to about 90% done. There are a few things I need to continue to detail such as the long ammo feed chutes that go to the side of the gun. I would like to make the nob a proper banner so consider the current one a placeholder for now. :)

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    And one without the rider, so you can get a better look of the assembly on the back of the bike:

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    I need to add some battle damage and maybe some more up front, too, like headlights on either side of the forks. I'd also like to work a little more on his power fist to properly sell the concept. I think the Nob'z bike has turned out decent so far, though.

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  • AlazullAlazull Your body is not a temple, it's an amusement park. Enjoy the ride.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    My heart wants that banner to be the Ork version of the Jolly Roger, but that's because I'm an insane bastard on the inside. The gun came up looking awesome and if you could do it so a grot stands on the back maintaining the gun in some fashion it would be so pimp shit. However, at the same time, it could make the overall effort too busy, so perhaps it would be a bad idea. The powerfist could use an exposed or at least external power source, as it would be so Orky for it to basically be a huge metal gauntlet with a power pack slapped on to make it a "powa fist." Some tubing to connect the two, I dunno.

    However, the model looks damn good already, and if I could convert even half as well as you I would be joyous.

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  • OtakuD00DOtakuD00D Can I hit the exploding rocks? San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    BWAAAH! My Stormclad is done! Bought it Sunday, painted it yesterday.
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