So something that has always bothered me...can Vampires technically have sex or no? Obviously there was the psycho girl from santa monica, but they make so many references to not being able to in conversations later on.
Anyone familiar with this "universe?"
The answer I gave to Romero's advances pretty much sums it up, though it's not as gross as that. They can focus their blood to "reactivate" that part of their body. So they can, but it's looked down upon. Blood is easier and more pleasurable for them anyway.
So something that has always bothered me...can Vampires technically have sex or no? Obviously there was the psycho girl from santa monica, but they make so many references to not being able to in conversations later on.
Anyone familiar with this "universe?"
The answer I gave to Romero's advances pretty much sums it up, though it's not as gross as that. They can focus their blood to "reactivate" that part of their body. So they can, but it's looked down upon. Blood is easier and more pleasurable for them anyway.
I am not familiar with the latest edition, but in Vampire: The Masquerade a vampire could use his power to make his body mimic life. A vampire in its natural state is a walking corpse, but by spending blood he can make his lungs breathe, his heart pump and yes, even have sex. How difficult this is depends on how far the vampire has fallen from humanity.
So something that has always bothered me...can Vampires technically have sex or no? Obviously there was the psycho girl from santa monica, but they make so many references to not being able to in conversations later on.
Anyone familiar with this "universe?"
They can if they spend a blood point- this is true for both Masquerade and Requiem.
When I first bought this game back in 2004, my computer didn't run it too well and I shelved it promising to get back to it one day. It sat there for three years, every now and then I'd try to get back into it but be pulled away by other games. Now I have a better machine and a hankering for RPGs after playing Mass Effect. I installed this game, patched it up, and now I'm enjoying it a ridiculous amount. I'm completely drawn in. I wish I had played it sooner! I shall read through this Let's Play as soon as I've finished the game.
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On the vampire sex thing... White Wolf even came out with Ancient Hearts, a Black Dog erotic novel involving a number of their signature characters (Sasha Vykos, Lucita, and Jan Pieterzoon). They acknowledged that vampires don't really enjoy sex that much, as a whole, so mostly they find other reasons to fuck... Ghouls, for example, often have a pronounced sex drive as part of their blood addiction dementia. At one point, Lucita is gang raped... which she finds amusing and allows to happen for awhile before ripping them all apart with her bare hands. John Bolton, one of the big-time vampire illustrators, provided the ridiculously explicit full color pictures of the action every few pages. As far as I know, this was White Wolf's first and only foray into erotic novels.
To answer your unasked question, I bought the damn thing for my (now ex) girlfriend. Turns out she wasn't all that interested in it, but she thought that if I bought it for her, it would keep ME interested in her. Turns out that psychosis just isn't that sexy to me.
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I don't want to be a vampire if sex doesn't feel as good.
We can see what the King knows, then visit with the angel.
I hope he's home and not out buying floss.
Olivie: Might we trade words, wizard-king?
Strauss: Of course.
Olivie: I seek knowledge of Gargoyles, the stone-skinned Blood Golems!
Strauss: Gargoyles? Why are you asking about Gargoyles?
Olivie: One haunts a theatre in Hollywood! Tell me more!
Strauss: Well... what do you want to know?
Olivie: Tell me of these Blood Golems!
Strauss: A Gargoyle is, put simply, a creature that was created to protect the Tremere clan in their early years of our existence. They are very powerful creatures, and not to be trifled with.
Olivie: Who is the creator of this cretin?
Olivie: You fathered this fiend?
Strauss: Yes. Many years ago I created this Gargoyle to protect the chantry from our enemies. He was a faithful servant, and saved my life more than once. Unfortunately, he became increasingly upset about his role as my protector, and wished to be set free. I refused to do so. Finally, he stole away into the night, and I haven't seen him since.
Olivie: I see. Well, Isaac Abrams has asked me to get rid of this Blood Golem...
Strauss: Isaac Abrams? His disrespect for the Camarilla is surpassed only by his hatred of LaCroix. If he finds out, it will be a source of great embarassment for the clan and the Camarilla. He cannot learn that this Gargoyle was my creation, do you understand?
Olivie: I will keep this sorcerous secret...
Strauss: I appreciate your discretion in this matter, neonate.
Olivie: What need I do now?
Olivie: My person appreciates this gift.
Strauss: Good luck, young one. When you succeed in destroying the Gargoyle, return and I will give you an appropriate reward.
We had never thought that killing talking rocks would be on our to-do list.
Olivie: Do I hear thunder, my rose?
Heather: Oh, thank you... amazing... I feel so much better, like i'm the most important person in the world- next to you, of course...
Olivie: Ah, you are precious when you speak such nonsense. Goodnight, pet.
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The size of this word box hurts my eyes...
Look quickly, then we can begin our stony adventure.
That should not take long... we could do it fast.
I suppose we could peel our eyes...
Not much of a reward if any effort is required.
Back to the lady by the water! I do not think Mercury would have anything for us this time.
Are you able to think of a sufficient pun here, self?
Many, but I am embarrassed to say them out loud...
What a dump. Why need they a hub in here?
kthx lol.
Oh it's time to go kill a stone, wheee!
Helloooo? Nobody home...
Wow! We need to make an entrance like that!
Wait, golem, go back up and let us try!
Olivie: Ah! The stone golem i've come to slay!
Gargoyle: Death for you, demon! Death and final darkness!
Smash that rock, self.
Smashin' a rock, boss.
The king's gift works well...
It's only a "ow it hurts!" instead of a "gaaghh, my ribs are shattered!"
Poor rock. All he wanted were some friends to squish into paste.
Oh, the voice's tape. He will appreciate this.
The blood baron will appreciate the dead rock even more.
Olivie: Though a jester he may be, I like to laugh... laugh to the top.
Isaac: LaCroix's chosen his agents well, I won't deny that. In time you'll realize just who you serve. Excuse me.
Olivie: Oh... ok?
That's it? No thank you even?
The rock nearly smushed our head! We also saved the pretty childe!
No special secrets for HIM! The wizard-king will appreciate us!
I am tired of manipulation... we need a new scene.
First i'm gonna go on the pirate ride, then the space mountain, then...
I don't remember a "mysterious asian vampire" ride...
I hope it is more fun than the "arm creatures that eat your face" ride.
Olivie: Ah! The Mistress of Mirrors!
Xiao: I'm sorry? I'm not sure I heard you correctly...
Olivie: The surface is cracked, tarnished, revealing more mirrors beneath...
Xiao: What wretched strain of Caine's curse is this?
Olivie: Truth wears many masks, mistress.
Xiao: Indeed it does, Kindred. But let us speak of other things. How might I assist you? Might I offer you some refreshment?
Olivie: Earl Grey is no saucy sustenance.
Xiao: Ah, that is right. Your kind drinks solely of mortal blood, correct? No longer may you partake in the simple pleasures of the mortal realm. A shame.
Olivie: You still partake of such pleasures?
Xiao: Yes. We Kuei-jin are similar to you Kindred in fewer ways than you might imagine.
Olivie: Does Caine's curse flow in your veins?
Xiao: We are supernatural, that does not mean we are like yourself. We are beings returned through the Second Breath for a purpose. The Second Breath- our rebirth into the supernatural form. It is a spiritual awakening, not some lowly blood ritual meant to spread a dispicable curse.
Olivie: Our kinds cast similar shadows...
Olivie: You choose this supernatural state?
Xiao: No, we do not choose, but events of our lives can awaken dark spiritual energies. We are not born of the whims of another as the Kindred are.
Olivie: What reason behind this unfortunate fate?
Xiao: The reasons are as numerous as the Kuei-jin themselves. Each is reborn with a purpose that they must find. Once their path is evident, they must seek to fulfill it, even if it takes eternity.
Olivie: Your dressing is different, yet cursed also you are.
Olivie: ... I seek a Nosferatu night-child.
Xiao: So. The great Nosferatu have lost an agent, have they? It was not by my hand, if that's what they think.
Olivie: No knowledge at all of this Nossie?
Xiao: I don't know where he is. Perhaps you should speak with Wong Ho about this.
Olivie: Who is Wong Ho?
Olivie: I will chase this deadly Dragon.
Xiao: I grant you permission to operate in the Kuei-jin domain... for now. May you find your path, Kindred.
I feel all icky... covered in goo...
What's that?
Hm. Nothing to do with us, I imagine!
Olivie: You know of the Dark Father too?!
Fortune Teller: Ah... sure, yeah, I tell you all... Five dollar!
Olivie: Here, forecast my fate!
Fortune Teller: You going to get a visitor at your door next week- DON'T OPEN DOOR! It Jehovah Witness. They so annoying!
Spooky...
My legs draw me onward for some unknown reason...
Olivie: You want to tell me something...?
Tseng: Are you with immigration?
Olivie: I don't think so...
Tseng: Are you... police?
Olivie: No, but I do enjoy harassing people.
Olivie: Weapons never solved any problems. I'll take twelve.
Goodbye, hat... you were my faithful companion...
Ooooh goggles!
We can always use more bird mummy heads.
Eeeeeeeee!
Calm down or we're turning this car around right now!
Now we're on top of the world, and ready for some easy tasks!
Olivie: Ooh... fishies...
Greeter: Umm...?
Olivie: Ah! I was directed here by the thing at the Golden Temple.
Greeter: I'll get the elevator.
Olivie: I could use a lift...
Greeter: Second floor. Have a good night.
Olivie: You have done your part in my legend.
Wow! Secret doors and everything... I should take notes.
Olivie: Ah! Your most precious treasure has been taken!
Sobby: Yes... yes, she has. Kiki, my daughter, is indeed my most treasured possession. How did you know...?
Olivie: Taken by children, servants of an unknown shadow...
Sobby: Again you are correct. She was kidnapped by the Tong, a local street gang. I do not know who ordered this, but I intend to find out. Who are you, stranger? You seem to see things as if through the eyes of the gods...
Olivie: Often gods dress as demons. I come from Ming-Xiao, mistress of mirrors.
Sobby: Ming-Xiao? Oh... of course. Please forgive me, but as you can see I am in a most terrible situation. I am Wong Ho, owner of the Red Dragon. Again, I apologize for my inconsiderate behavior.
Olivie: Tell me your tale...
Olivie: What enemies cast shadows on your doorstep?
Wong Ho: I am a man of some prominence here in Chinatown. I have many allies, but there are also many who would like to see my demise. The Tong have chosen the coward's path, using my daughter as leverage against me.
Olivie: Perhaps I need don death's robe. Do you know, where is this lost treasure?
Wong Ho: Hello. Zhao! Yes! How did you... ah, of course. I see. Thank you, my friend. Your debt has been repaid a thousand times over. Yes, of course. Goodbye.
Olivie: Not the lost children on that line, but who?
Wong Ho: That was... someone who owed me an old debt. It has been repaid. I know where the Tong are keeping my daughter.
Olivie: Perhaps I can help you did for this precious cargo.
Olivie: I shall return with this precious treasure.
Wong Ho: Thank you. I shall wait here until you return. Strike fast. The Tong will not be expecting anyone so soon. Good luck, my friend.
Death's boots fit snugly, and I am beginning to enjoy their clomping...
Ah so that's how you get the tremere guy to talk to you about gargoyles! I forgot to talk to him. Oh well, I managed to negotiate with it and get an attractiveness + 1 item.
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I don't want to be a vampire if sex doesn't feel as good.
Drinking blood is better for vampires than sex is for humans. Also, since a vampire bite causes euphoria, it's pretty good for the person being fed off of, too... well, unless there's ripping and tearing involved. That's why vampires haven't been exposed: People who get fed from think they just got laid.
Anyone mind elaborating on what crazy asian lady said about the origins of her kind?
The Kuei-Jin (as they're known in the modern era, a combination of Japanese and Chinese: the Chinese vampires were once known as Wan Kuei) are the product of the unique metaphysical construction of the East (yes, it's silly, but just roll with it).
There's a place in the asian afterlife between the Yellow Springs (Shadowlands, the realm of the ghosts) and the Celestial Realms (Umbra, the place of higher spirits) called Yomi, or The 1,000 Hells (also referenced in Big Trouble in Little China!) where the wicked are punished. These hells are ruled by the omnipotent Yama Kings, who learned that human misery can be channeled into metaphysical power. Mortal souls become demons and are tortured for eternity... and eventually become torturers themselves. Sometimes, a demonic soul manages to escape back to the human world (known as the Middle Kingdom). Nobody knows why the souls are allowed to escape, given that the Yama Kings are all-powerful within their own realms, but some speculate that they want the evil souls in the world, out there corrupting others and spreading misery.
The soul manages to get out of Hell and possess either their own body or a reasonable substitute if their body's been destroyed. The Kuei-Jin come out of Yomi as savage monsters, but are usually captured by their elders and civilized; taught a dharmic path which allows them to control themselves. Since they are not a part of the natural order, they produce no chi themselves, and thus have to steal it... the younger Kuei-Jin only know how to take chi from human blood (hence being compared to western vampires), but older ones can take chi from breath, the ambient atmosphere, and some can even get it from human faith: being worshipped as a god.
There are no bloodlines of the Kuei-Jin: their hierarchy is based on enlightenment, with the most enlighened being the equivilent of methuselahs or antedeluvians.
Kuei-Jin can't reproduce themselves as Cainites can, but those with an overbalance of Yang chi can have children, known as dhampyrs. These rare children aren't as powerful as vampires, but they're always incredibly lucky... as if the universe acknowledges the strange configuration events that would result in such a creature. At least until they push their luck too much, their joss runs out, and they go down in some spectacular way.
I don't know much about them, but for the most part, it helps to know that
they're soul-stealing infernalists, far as I know, and they make pacts with demons. Not people you want to cross.
Not that Bloodlines gives you much of a choice.
Some Kuei-Jin are soul-stealing infernalists, but trafficking with real demons will get you branded akuma and is a crime punishable by death in Kuei-Jin culture (they don't consider themselves to be real demons, despite most having a "demon form" and using "demon chi" to power some of their abilities). The Dragon's Tear, a discipline involving the Third Eye (Kuei-Jin are who Saulot learned about it from) is capable of stealing a soul, but it's typically used to remove the soul, purify it, and put it back in the body. Only Devil Tigers (consider themselves to be the rightful punishers of the wicked) and akuma generally use it for actual soul stealing.
So, the Heart of Eliza isn't working. It's not giving the bonus to melee it should. I can't remember this happening any other time I played, and can't find any mention of it anywhere else.
The Kuei-Jin (as they're known in the modern era, a combination of Japanese and Chinese: the Chinese vampires were once known as Wan Kuei) are the product of the unique metaphysical construction of the East (yes, it's silly, but just roll with it).
Anyone know what kuei means in chinese? I know Jin is people in Japanese.
Anyone know what kuei means in chinese? I know Jin is people in Japanese.
In Chinese culture, it's a ghost or demon, typically the spirit of a person who hasn't been given the proper burial rites or memorial respect it was due. So they're pissed off.
Wan Kuei means "10,000 Demons."
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It's funny but reading through this thread there are so many options I didn't know about like the boat mission where you can actually talk to that cop to get access.
I usually just stealthed or slaughtered my way through things...I'm unimaginative like that.
It's funny but reading through this thread there are so many options I didn't know about like the boat mission where you can actually talk to that cop to get access.
I usually just stealthed or slaughtered my way through things...I'm unimaginative like that.
It's a bit of a problem with the mission design really - the game drills into your head that Messing With The Law Is Bad and that You Shouldn't Break The Masquerade, so logically any and all cops on the boat should be hostile. There's no indication, in-game, that the guy you can speak with is any different, especially when the dudes near him will shoot you.
Except that the cop will initially try to talk to you as long as you don't shoot first. His speech makes it very clear that he's the only one onboard you want to mess with. What I wasn't expecting was to see him shooting at me as I ran from the sarcophagus back to the raft. Makes sense though.
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Except that the cop will initially try to talk to you as long as you don't shoot first. His speech makes it very clear that he's the only one onboard you want to mess with. What I wasn't expecting was to see him shooting at me as I ran from the sarcophagus back to the raft. Makes sense though.
In, get the treasure, get out... they are only gangsters, no match for us.
Slashy here is so much more well-behaved than choppy or smashy...
All a-tumbling down the stairs... hehehe...
The only locked door. Buried treasure must be inside.
Olivie: Then you should be glad i'm not keeping you in there.
Bitch: Huh? Who are you? You're not with the Tong.
Olivie: I am no toothless Tong...
Bitch: Didn't I just say that? You may not be with the Tong, but you seem to be about as smart as they are.
Olivie: Your tongue is in need of a tuning. Are you Wong's Ho?
Bitch: Yeah. I'm Kiki. Who the hell are you? The Tong welcoming committee?
Olivie: I bring you freedom's key.
Olivie: Close your food hole or you'll find yourself back in your cage.
Kiki: Okay, okay. Man, you don't have to get all sensitive. I'm sorry, okay?
Olivie: Wise are your words, little weasel. Let us go.
No reward is worth this...
Olivie: Why did the lost children take your treasure?
Wong Ho: I have not been able to find out why they took Kiki. I fear that it goes much deeper than the Tong.
Olivie: Your words are slightly opaque...
Wong Ho: For a long time I have been trying to clean up Chinatown. It was a difficult job, but the community came together and we started to take back our streets from criminals like the Tong. Businesses re-opened, families moved back into their homes...
Olivie: It seems the bugs have crawled back into the basket.
Wong Ho: Yes. I thought that the Tong were almost gone. But then something happened. Their numbers began to grow, and suddenly they had a lot of money to buy weapons with. With them followed the drugs and the violence. It is almost worse now than before.
Olivie: Who is the hand that pulls the strings?
Olivie: Give voice to your vexings.
Wong Ho: I am sorry. I have said too much.
Olivie: Put your trust in this shattered psyche...
Wong Ho: Well, things seemed to change as soon as Ming-Xiao arrived and reopened the Temple of Golden Virtue. That was three years ago. I do not mean to insinuate that she has anything to do with the resurgence of the Tong. The two events merely seemed to coincide.
Olivie: Your blindness is as deep as my madness.
Olivie: Then let us delve into my own dilemma. I seek the shadow of a missing soul.
Wong Ho: Who is this person?
Olivie: Barabus...
Wong Ho: Hmmm. What else can you tell me about him?
Olivie: It seems my personalities persist in their silence.
Wong Ho: I see. I do not think that I could find him for you, but I know someone who could.
Olivie: I export myself. Farewell.
Mmm... I smell old blood money...
Olivie: The old wolf soaks his wounds in fire water...
Lu Fang: Let me tell you somesing- come closer so can hear- let me tell you somesing. Kids. Kids don't know nothing.
Olivie: Young eyes are often blind.
Lu Fang: Yeah! See, you see! You... you see. They crime, but they not organized. Messy. No one can do it no more! Just shoot shoot wherever. Cop no good. All a mess. Not organized.
Olivie: Your past is colored in criminal crimson, old wolf...
Lu Fang: Pshhh. Lu Fang know. I Lu Fang. Lu Fang know.
Olivie: Crime is a curious conundrum, violent and childlike.
Lu Fang: Wha? Oh! You philosopher, huh? You know Confuscius? Confuscius say, philosophers like backed up toilet... full of shit!
Olivie: I sense on you the secret of many dead souls.
Lu Fang: Was- come closer- no say too loud. Was hitman. I kill. Kill good. Lu Fang kill a lot of men.
Olivie: Are you a lost child of the Tong?
Olivie: Do you have gold, old wolf?
Lu Fang: Got some money. Need more. Got some hidden, can't get.
Olivie: Ah! Another hidden treasure...
Lu Fang: Locked away. Need two key to get. Lu Fang only have one key.
Olivie: Where is the key to this trove?
Lu Fang: Lu Fang used to have pahtnah. Not pahtnah, friend. Lu Fang have friend. Ji Wen Ja. Ji Wen Ja, Lu Fang, friends. Both kill people for money for people. For Tong. Good Tong then, not bad Tong now.
Olivie: Two wolves in this precarious pack...
Olivie: How many sands have fallen through the hourglass?
Lu Fang: Huh? You been drinking, too? What hourglass have to do with my money? If you can't handle liquor, then give to me. I know how to handle liquor.
Olivie: Count the years since this treasure tragedy.
Lu Fang: About 35 years ago.
Olivie: Where is the other wolf?
Lu Fang: Ji Wen Ja make phony baloney fortune-tellah boof in marketplace. He no longer hitman. Con man low life, Ji Wen Ja. He keep key on him. Always on lookout for Lu Fang. Maybe you can get key from Ji Wen Ja? You kill people. Lu Fang know. Lu Fang can read people very well. Let Lu Fang see you... Yep, kill people. You kill Ji Wen Ja. No big deal.
Olivie: What loot for this liquidation?
Lu Fang: I give you money. When Lu Fang get key, pay you 20 percent of hidden money. Lots of money! Just kill Ji Wen Ja, get key.
Olivie: I will do this dark deed...
Olivie: I go to hunt this crusty old canine.
He can see the future... this will be my most challenging fight.
Olivie: Gee When Jaw?
Ji Wen Ja: You work for IRS? I... no English, sorry!
Olivie: The Fang sends me for your key.
Ji Wen Ja: Wait! You work for Lu? He want key right? How much he pay you?
Olivie: A lot...
Ji Wen Ja: What? Lu a liar. You bring him key, he go senile, say "what deal, I don't know deal". You not trust Lu! Ji Wen Ja your friend!
Olivie: Is that your final offer?
Olivie: Now I hate the Fang too.
Olivie: For your key, Ji Wen Ja offered 30 percent of his trove.
Lu Fang: 30 percent? You think Ji Wen Ja can afford to pay 30 percent? He need money for child bait. Got to buy comic book and video game. Ask him about nephew in bathroom! Do world favor. Kill Ji Wen Ja. I give you 40 percent!
Olivie: For forty, I will do this dark deed. Farewell.
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Olivie: The fang outbids you again...
Olivie: The money is bloody, but it is all mine. Stupid, but lucrative.
Ji Wen Ja: Stupid? What do you mean?
Olivie: One gets death, one gets nothing. I get everything!
Ji Wen Ja: I hate Lu that much!
Olivie: Old fools equals more stuff than I can purchase.
Ji Wen Ja: Old fool! I show you! No money for you! No more hit. Lu and I will take money and split it. The hell with you! Goddamn mercenary! Trying to take old man's money!
Olivie: ...suckers...
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Olivie: Ji Wen Ja says two wolves are better than one.
Olivie: Perhaps a better deal with Ji Wen Ja.
Lu Fang: Lu Fang talk to Ji Wen Ja. Make things right. Or die. Better odds though- better stakes to deal with Ji Wen Ja than you. Cold-blooded mercenary math whiz! Sorry!
Old Wolves are hard on my noodle. I need to restock.
No noodles... chopped hands.
Olivie: Blah, bleh, blee, bleh?
Noodle Girl: I saw you enter the temple... suspicious... I know what you are.
Olivie: Mad... about god. Religious, not suspicious.
Noodle Girl: Re-ligious? Shirimasen, but all creature, even evil creature have a place in the world. I have no vengeance for you, but I can.
Olivie: That's crazy, you're crazy. But not me. Yes, you are- no, you are!
Noodle Girl: I talk with demon when I should kill it. Crazy... yes, I agree.
Olivie: Are you lost? Japan is that way.
Olivie: Me and the Kuei-Jin, we're like apples and horseshoe crabs.
Yukie: I hunt to Kuei-Jin. I hunt Hengeyokai. My sensei killed demon that killed my family, and now I take the life of his killer. I follow trail of corpses from Japan to Rosu Angeresu... Hengeyokai is here and it will die here.
Olivie: Something smells fishy...
Yukie: Yes! Hengeyokai smells like fish! Do you know?
Olivie: I smell something. What is it?
Yukie: Hengeyokai is a demon that hides in the skin of a man, but is not a man.
Olivie: It masquerades... I know this bit.
Yukie: I know he is nearby... edo... I lose its trail. Do you meet Hengeyokai?
Olivie: If I smell it, I will come get you.
Olivie: Your fate is sad, but then so is mine.
It smelled fishy with the mistress of mirrors...
Olivie: I seek a horrendous Hengeyokai.
Xiao: Ah yes, the Hengeyokai. Zygaena, I believe his name was. I had nearly forgotten him.
Olivie: Zygaena? Zany!
Xiao: He announced his presence in our domain, and I granted him permission to operate. He does not act on my behalf however, I can assure you.
Olivie: Where hides this churlish changeling?
Xiao: I believe he said he operates an importing business and entertains clients at the Red Dragon.
Let us leave before I feel icky again...
Hmm... do you smell that?
No... but you have the nose.
Olivie: Something smells fishy...
Zygaena?: I have a reputation for delivering product. I have more reason to be suspicious of you.
Olivie: The stench is overwhelming...
Zygaena?: I'm not a patient man. Are you here to make a deal or not?
Olivie: Does your mother have a son named Zygaena?
Zygaena?: No, and I would rather you did not suggest such a thing. He is a business associate... not one I enjoy dealing with, either.
Olivie: Talk about him.
Olivie: Say his name and you will never see him again...
Not Zygaena: Oh, you plan to kill him?
Olivie: Kill or talk? Which one involves an exchange of free ideas?
Not Zygaena: Talk? I don't know... he is a somewhat paranoid man. I'm afraid if you were to try anything, I will be punished.
Olivie: The dead only punish our nostrils with their stench.
Not Zygaena: Yes, that's what I wanted to hear. If that's your goal, i'd be willing to help arrange a meeting with him.
Olivie: I am so serious it's comical. I am gone.
Olivie: The demon you pursue...
Yukie: Doko desu ka? Where?
Olivie: It hides its scent in the fish market. Let us be like ninjas and surprise it.
Yukie: You want to kill Hengeyokai with me? Why?
Olivie: It smells like fish and Kuei-Jin.
Yukie: Fish Market de ikimasu. See you there, demon.
Fish aren't so tough. They don't even have legs.
Rather impractical to hunt demons in...
We would never be so silly.
In we go!
Olivie: HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Zygaena!: You're both here... my hunter and my target, this is very convenient.
Olivie: WOO HOO HA HA HA HA...
Zygaena!: Hmm-mmm-mmm... heh heh... surprise...
Fish transformer! Yet more things that should not be...
Its legs are ready to be chopped off!
It hits us too hard to slice up...
Stay away and use Mercury's Might.
Olivie used explosive freezing tank on Fishmonster!
It's super effective!
Throwing his small brothers at us... we can dodge them, but his claws hurt...
No good to us if the hunter dies... hurry.
Easy as fish-flavored cup-pies.
Olivie: Wow... bet you're glad that thing didn't have tentacles, huh?
Yukie: Defy your nature, demon. Man can suffer without your help. Sayonara.
Are all kue jin asians? Or can there be cases of western versions of them?
All Kuei-jin are of asian descent, yes, but there are isolated cases of Kuei-jin arising outside of the Middle Kingdom... in Chinatowns, or isolated Hmong communities in the US, for example. It's even happened that an asian child adopted by foreigners will come back... that's exceedingly rare, however. Part of the reason the Kuei-Jin are in Los Angeles in the first place is to make the area metaphysically more like the East, so that more Kuei-Jin will spawn there. This is why Ming Xiao is such a strong supporter of both Chinatown and the tongs.
The Middle Kingdom, by the way, extends from India eastward, and as far north as Mongolia.
There are similar creatures to the Kuei-Jin in the West that are just wraiths who possess their own dead bodies. They're basically the same as Brandon Lee's character in The Crow and return to finish their business from life.
Are all kue jin asians? Or can there be cases of western versions of them?
All Kuei-jin are of asian descent, yes, but there are isolated cases of Kuei-jin arising outside of the Middle Kingdom... in Chinatowns, or isolated Hmong communities in the US, for example. It's even happened that an asian child adopted by foreigners will come back... that's exceedingly rare, however. Part of the reason the Kuei-Jin are in Los Angeles in the first place is to make the area metaphysically more like the East, so that more Kuei-Jin will spawn there. This is why Ming Xiao is such a strong supporter of both Chinatown and the tongs.
The Middle Kingdom, by the way, extends from India eastward, and as far north as Mongolia.
There are similar creatures to the Kuei-Jin in the West that are just wraiths who possess their own dead bodies. They're basically the same as Brandon Lee's character in The Crow and return to finish their business from life.
Where'd be a good place to read up on all the lore from V:TM? This stuff is really interesting to read.
There's a thread in Critical Failures on the subject, but way back in...2003, I want to say, White Wolf ended the original World of Darkness and remade it with some lessons they'd learned doing the WoD in mind.
You start with the "World of Darkness Corebook", which has all the rules, as well as ghosts and rules for making mortals. It is supported by a line of supplements designed for monster hunters, investigators, etc- X Files, Ultraviolet (British series), Supernatural kinds of characters.
Then there are three major game lines- Vampire: The Requiem, Mage: The Awakening and Werewolf: The Forsaken. These all have a truckload of supplements. Requiem is very much like Masquerade; differing in some of the finer details and being much better constructed. The other two are significant revisions of the oWoD and barely resemble their predecessor. There are two limited-run game lines with a fixed number of supplements- Promethean: The Created (5 books) and Changeling: The Lost (6 books). WW intends to release one such limited-run every year.
Stylistically, the nWoD is more toolkit, slightly better edited and you'll occasionally see an index. No metaplot, lots of options, sourcebooks aren't written in first person narratives- they're much closer to most other RPG supplements, which often makes people decry them as "boring!" but you gain a lot in information.
EDIT: I would kill to see a Bloodlines-style (only, you know, better made) game set in the nWoD.
While quite possible to do a computer game version of the New World of Darkness, it would lack some of the background 'oomph' that comes with setting it with signature characters with well-known backstories (folks like Beckett and Smiling Jack the Anarch) and events (the Kuei-Jin Great Leap Outward). Without such crutches, a new WoD computer game would rely more on the talent of the authors to evoke a memorable game.
I'm guessing the NWoD is a better setting for the MMORPG that they're designing, however. Hearing the rules lawyers complain that Justicars would never allow my Tzimisce antitribu to go on a Camarilla raid on Sasha Vykos would be the last fucking straw.
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The answer I gave to Romero's advances pretty much sums it up, though it's not as gross as that. They can focus their blood to "reactivate" that part of their body. So they can, but it's looked down upon. Blood is easier and more pleasurable for them anyway.
Wow, that's messed up.
I am not familiar with the latest edition, but in Vampire: The Masquerade a vampire could use his power to make his body mimic life. A vampire in its natural state is a walking corpse, but by spending blood he can make his lungs breathe, his heart pump and yes, even have sex. How difficult this is depends on how far the vampire has fallen from humanity.
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They can if they spend a blood point- this is true for both Masquerade and Requiem.
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To answer your unasked question, I bought the damn thing for my (now ex) girlfriend. Turns out she wasn't all that interested in it, but she thought that if I bought it for her, it would keep ME interested in her. Turns out that psychosis just isn't that sexy to me.
We can see what the King knows, then visit with the angel.
I hope he's home and not out buying floss.
Olivie: Might we trade words, wizard-king?
Strauss: Of course.
Olivie: I seek knowledge of Gargoyles, the stone-skinned Blood Golems!
Strauss: Gargoyles? Why are you asking about Gargoyles?
Olivie: One haunts a theatre in Hollywood! Tell me more!
Strauss: Well... what do you want to know?
Olivie: Tell me of these Blood Golems!
Strauss: A Gargoyle is, put simply, a creature that was created to protect the Tremere clan in their early years of our existence. They are very powerful creatures, and not to be trifled with.
Olivie: Who is the creator of this cretin?
Olivie: You fathered this fiend?
Strauss: Yes. Many years ago I created this Gargoyle to protect the chantry from our enemies. He was a faithful servant, and saved my life more than once. Unfortunately, he became increasingly upset about his role as my protector, and wished to be set free. I refused to do so. Finally, he stole away into the night, and I haven't seen him since.
Olivie: I see. Well, Isaac Abrams has asked me to get rid of this Blood Golem...
Strauss: Isaac Abrams? His disrespect for the Camarilla is surpassed only by his hatred of LaCroix. If he finds out, it will be a source of great embarassment for the clan and the Camarilla. He cannot learn that this Gargoyle was my creation, do you understand?
Olivie: I will keep this sorcerous secret...
Strauss: I appreciate your discretion in this matter, neonate.
Olivie: What need I do now?
Olivie: My person appreciates this gift.
Strauss: Good luck, young one. When you succeed in destroying the Gargoyle, return and I will give you an appropriate reward.
We had never thought that killing talking rocks would be on our to-do list.
Olivie: Do I hear thunder, my rose?
Heather: Oh, thank you... amazing... I feel so much better, like i'm the most important person in the world- next to you, of course...
Olivie: Ah, you are precious when you speak such nonsense. Goodnight, pet.
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The size of this word box hurts my eyes...
Look quickly, then we can begin our stony adventure.
That should not take long... we could do it fast.
I suppose we could peel our eyes...
Not much of a reward if any effort is required.
Back to the lady by the water! I do not think Mercury would have anything for us this time.
Are you able to think of a sufficient pun here, self?
Many, but I am embarrassed to say them out loud...
What a dump. Why need they a hub in here?
kthx lol.
Oh it's time to go kill a stone, wheee!
Helloooo? Nobody home...
Wow! We need to make an entrance like that!
Wait, golem, go back up and let us try!
Olivie: Ah! The stone golem i've come to slay!
Gargoyle: Death for you, demon! Death and final darkness!
Smash that rock, self.
Smashin' a rock, boss.
The king's gift works well...
It's only a "ow it hurts!" instead of a "gaaghh, my ribs are shattered!"
Poor rock. All he wanted were some friends to squish into paste.
Oh, the voice's tape. He will appreciate this.
The blood baron will appreciate the dead rock even more.
Olivie: Though a jester he may be, I like to laugh... laugh to the top.
Isaac: LaCroix's chosen his agents well, I won't deny that. In time you'll realize just who you serve. Excuse me.
Olivie: Oh... ok?
That's it? No thank you even?
The rock nearly smushed our head! We also saved the pretty childe!
No special secrets for HIM! The wizard-king will appreciate us!
I am tired of manipulation... we need a new scene.
First i'm gonna go on the pirate ride, then the space mountain, then...
I don't remember a "mysterious asian vampire" ride...
I hope it is more fun than the "arm creatures that eat your face" ride.
Olivie: Ah! The Mistress of Mirrors!
Xiao: I'm sorry? I'm not sure I heard you correctly...
Olivie: The surface is cracked, tarnished, revealing more mirrors beneath...
Xiao: What wretched strain of Caine's curse is this?
Olivie: Truth wears many masks, mistress.
Xiao: Indeed it does, Kindred. But let us speak of other things. How might I assist you? Might I offer you some refreshment?
Olivie: Earl Grey is no saucy sustenance.
Xiao: Ah, that is right. Your kind drinks solely of mortal blood, correct? No longer may you partake in the simple pleasures of the mortal realm. A shame.
Olivie: You still partake of such pleasures?
Xiao: Yes. We Kuei-jin are similar to you Kindred in fewer ways than you might imagine.
Olivie: Does Caine's curse flow in your veins?
Xiao: We are supernatural, that does not mean we are like yourself. We are beings returned through the Second Breath for a purpose. The Second Breath- our rebirth into the supernatural form. It is a spiritual awakening, not some lowly blood ritual meant to spread a dispicable curse.
Olivie: Our kinds cast similar shadows...
Olivie: You choose this supernatural state?
Xiao: No, we do not choose, but events of our lives can awaken dark spiritual energies. We are not born of the whims of another as the Kindred are.
Olivie: What reason behind this unfortunate fate?
Xiao: The reasons are as numerous as the Kuei-jin themselves. Each is reborn with a purpose that they must find. Once their path is evident, they must seek to fulfill it, even if it takes eternity.
Olivie: Your dressing is different, yet cursed also you are.
Olivie: ... I seek a Nosferatu night-child.
Xiao: So. The great Nosferatu have lost an agent, have they? It was not by my hand, if that's what they think.
Olivie: No knowledge at all of this Nossie?
Xiao: I don't know where he is. Perhaps you should speak with Wong Ho about this.
Olivie: Who is Wong Ho?
Olivie: I will chase this deadly Dragon.
Xiao: I grant you permission to operate in the Kuei-jin domain... for now. May you find your path, Kindred.
I feel all icky... covered in goo...
What's that?
Hm. Nothing to do with us, I imagine!
Olivie: You know of the Dark Father too?!
Fortune Teller: Ah... sure, yeah, I tell you all... Five dollar!
Olivie: Here, forecast my fate!
Fortune Teller: You going to get a visitor at your door next week- DON'T OPEN DOOR! It Jehovah Witness. They so annoying!
Spooky...
My legs draw me onward for some unknown reason...
Olivie: You want to tell me something...?
Tseng: Are you with immigration?
Olivie: I don't think so...
Tseng: Are you... police?
Olivie: No, but I do enjoy harassing people.
Olivie: Weapons never solved any problems. I'll take twelve.
Goodbye, hat... you were my faithful companion...
Ooooh goggles!
We can always use more bird mummy heads.
Eeeeeeeee!
Calm down or we're turning this car around right now!
Now we're on top of the world, and ready for some easy tasks!
Olivie: Ooh... fishies...
Greeter: Umm...?
Olivie: Ah! I was directed here by the thing at the Golden Temple.
Greeter: I'll get the elevator.
Olivie: I could use a lift...
Greeter: Second floor. Have a good night.
Olivie: You have done your part in my legend.
Wow! Secret doors and everything... I should take notes.
Olivie: Ah! Your most precious treasure has been taken!
Sobby: Yes... yes, she has. Kiki, my daughter, is indeed my most treasured possession. How did you know...?
Olivie: Taken by children, servants of an unknown shadow...
Sobby: Again you are correct. She was kidnapped by the Tong, a local street gang. I do not know who ordered this, but I intend to find out. Who are you, stranger? You seem to see things as if through the eyes of the gods...
Olivie: Often gods dress as demons. I come from Ming-Xiao, mistress of mirrors.
Sobby: Ming-Xiao? Oh... of course. Please forgive me, but as you can see I am in a most terrible situation. I am Wong Ho, owner of the Red Dragon. Again, I apologize for my inconsiderate behavior.
Olivie: Tell me your tale...
Olivie: What enemies cast shadows on your doorstep?
Wong Ho: I am a man of some prominence here in Chinatown. I have many allies, but there are also many who would like to see my demise. The Tong have chosen the coward's path, using my daughter as leverage against me.
Olivie: Perhaps I need don death's robe. Do you know, where is this lost treasure?
Wong Ho: Hello. Zhao! Yes! How did you... ah, of course. I see. Thank you, my friend. Your debt has been repaid a thousand times over. Yes, of course. Goodbye.
Olivie: Not the lost children on that line, but who?
Wong Ho: That was... someone who owed me an old debt. It has been repaid. I know where the Tong are keeping my daughter.
Olivie: Perhaps I can help you did for this precious cargo.
Olivie: I shall return with this precious treasure.
Wong Ho: Thank you. I shall wait here until you return. Strike fast. The Tong will not be expecting anyone so soon. Good luck, my friend.
Death's boots fit snugly, and I am beginning to enjoy their clomping...
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Something smells fishy...
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I don't know much about them, but for the most part, it helps to know that
Drinking blood is better for vampires than sex is for humans. Also, since a vampire bite causes euphoria, it's pretty good for the person being fed off of, too... well, unless there's ripping and tearing involved. That's why vampires haven't been exposed: People who get fed from think they just got laid.
The Kuei-Jin (as they're known in the modern era, a combination of Japanese and Chinese: the Chinese vampires were once known as Wan Kuei) are the product of the unique metaphysical construction of the East (yes, it's silly, but just roll with it).
There's a place in the asian afterlife between the Yellow Springs (Shadowlands, the realm of the ghosts) and the Celestial Realms (Umbra, the place of higher spirits) called Yomi, or The 1,000 Hells (also referenced in Big Trouble in Little China!) where the wicked are punished. These hells are ruled by the omnipotent Yama Kings, who learned that human misery can be channeled into metaphysical power. Mortal souls become demons and are tortured for eternity... and eventually become torturers themselves. Sometimes, a demonic soul manages to escape back to the human world (known as the Middle Kingdom). Nobody knows why the souls are allowed to escape, given that the Yama Kings are all-powerful within their own realms, but some speculate that they want the evil souls in the world, out there corrupting others and spreading misery.
The soul manages to get out of Hell and possess either their own body or a reasonable substitute if their body's been destroyed. The Kuei-Jin come out of Yomi as savage monsters, but are usually captured by their elders and civilized; taught a dharmic path which allows them to control themselves. Since they are not a part of the natural order, they produce no chi themselves, and thus have to steal it... the younger Kuei-Jin only know how to take chi from human blood (hence being compared to western vampires), but older ones can take chi from breath, the ambient atmosphere, and some can even get it from human faith: being worshipped as a god.
There are no bloodlines of the Kuei-Jin: their hierarchy is based on enlightenment, with the most enlighened being the equivilent of methuselahs or antedeluvians.
Kuei-Jin can't reproduce themselves as Cainites can, but those with an overbalance of Yang chi can have children, known as dhampyrs. These rare children aren't as powerful as vampires, but they're always incredibly lucky... as if the universe acknowledges the strange configuration events that would result in such a creature. At least until they push their luck too much, their joss runs out, and they go down in some spectacular way.
Hope that helped.
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Anyone know what kuei means in chinese? I know Jin is people in Japanese.
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In Chinese culture, it's a ghost or demon, typically the spirit of a person who hasn't been given the proper burial rites or memorial respect it was due. So they're pissed off.
Wan Kuei means "10,000 Demons."
I usually just stealthed or slaughtered my way through things...I'm unimaginative like that.
It's a bit of a problem with the mission design really - the game drills into your head that Messing With The Law Is Bad and that You Shouldn't Break The Masquerade, so logically any and all cops on the boat should be hostile. There's no indication, in-game, that the guy you can speak with is any different, especially when the dudes near him will shoot you.
well doesn't he have to see you first?
I never heard him before...
In, get the treasure, get out... they are only gangsters, no match for us.
Slashy here is so much more well-behaved than choppy or smashy...
All a-tumbling down the stairs... hehehe...
The only locked door. Buried treasure must be inside.
Olivie: Then you should be glad i'm not keeping you in there.
Bitch: Huh? Who are you? You're not with the Tong.
Olivie: I am no toothless Tong...
Bitch: Didn't I just say that? You may not be with the Tong, but you seem to be about as smart as they are.
Olivie: Your tongue is in need of a tuning. Are you Wong's Ho?
Bitch: Yeah. I'm Kiki. Who the hell are you? The Tong welcoming committee?
Olivie: I bring you freedom's key.
Olivie: Close your food hole or you'll find yourself back in your cage.
Kiki: Okay, okay. Man, you don't have to get all sensitive. I'm sorry, okay?
Olivie: Wise are your words, little weasel. Let us go.
No reward is worth this...
Olivie: Why did the lost children take your treasure?
Wong Ho: I have not been able to find out why they took Kiki. I fear that it goes much deeper than the Tong.
Olivie: Your words are slightly opaque...
Wong Ho: For a long time I have been trying to clean up Chinatown. It was a difficult job, but the community came together and we started to take back our streets from criminals like the Tong. Businesses re-opened, families moved back into their homes...
Olivie: It seems the bugs have crawled back into the basket.
Wong Ho: Yes. I thought that the Tong were almost gone. But then something happened. Their numbers began to grow, and suddenly they had a lot of money to buy weapons with. With them followed the drugs and the violence. It is almost worse now than before.
Olivie: Who is the hand that pulls the strings?
Olivie: Give voice to your vexings.
Wong Ho: I am sorry. I have said too much.
Olivie: Put your trust in this shattered psyche...
Wong Ho: Well, things seemed to change as soon as Ming-Xiao arrived and reopened the Temple of Golden Virtue. That was three years ago. I do not mean to insinuate that she has anything to do with the resurgence of the Tong. The two events merely seemed to coincide.
Olivie: Your blindness is as deep as my madness.
Olivie: Then let us delve into my own dilemma. I seek the shadow of a missing soul.
Wong Ho: Who is this person?
Olivie: Barabus...
Wong Ho: Hmmm. What else can you tell me about him?
Olivie: It seems my personalities persist in their silence.
Wong Ho: I see. I do not think that I could find him for you, but I know someone who could.
Olivie: I export myself. Farewell.
Mmm... I smell old blood money...
Olivie: The old wolf soaks his wounds in fire water...
Lu Fang: Let me tell you somesing- come closer so can hear- let me tell you somesing. Kids. Kids don't know nothing.
Olivie: Young eyes are often blind.
Lu Fang: Yeah! See, you see! You... you see. They crime, but they not organized. Messy. No one can do it no more! Just shoot shoot wherever. Cop no good. All a mess. Not organized.
Olivie: Your past is colored in criminal crimson, old wolf...
Lu Fang: Pshhh. Lu Fang know. I Lu Fang. Lu Fang know.
Olivie: Crime is a curious conundrum, violent and childlike.
Lu Fang: Wha? Oh! You philosopher, huh? You know Confuscius? Confuscius say, philosophers like backed up toilet... full of shit!
Olivie: I sense on you the secret of many dead souls.
Lu Fang: Was- come closer- no say too loud. Was hitman. I kill. Kill good. Lu Fang kill a lot of men.
Olivie: Are you a lost child of the Tong?
Olivie: Do you have gold, old wolf?
Lu Fang: Got some money. Need more. Got some hidden, can't get.
Olivie: Ah! Another hidden treasure...
Lu Fang: Locked away. Need two key to get. Lu Fang only have one key.
Olivie: Where is the key to this trove?
Lu Fang: Lu Fang used to have pahtnah. Not pahtnah, friend. Lu Fang have friend. Ji Wen Ja. Ji Wen Ja, Lu Fang, friends. Both kill people for money for people. For Tong. Good Tong then, not bad Tong now.
Olivie: Two wolves in this precarious pack...
Olivie: How many sands have fallen through the hourglass?
Lu Fang: Huh? You been drinking, too? What hourglass have to do with my money? If you can't handle liquor, then give to me. I know how to handle liquor.
Olivie: Count the years since this treasure tragedy.
Lu Fang: About 35 years ago.
Olivie: Where is the other wolf?
Lu Fang: Ji Wen Ja make phony baloney fortune-tellah boof in marketplace. He no longer hitman. Con man low life, Ji Wen Ja. He keep key on him. Always on lookout for Lu Fang. Maybe you can get key from Ji Wen Ja? You kill people. Lu Fang know. Lu Fang can read people very well. Let Lu Fang see you... Yep, kill people. You kill Ji Wen Ja. No big deal.
Olivie: What loot for this liquidation?
Lu Fang: I give you money. When Lu Fang get key, pay you 20 percent of hidden money. Lots of money! Just kill Ji Wen Ja, get key.
Olivie: I will do this dark deed...
Olivie: I go to hunt this crusty old canine.
He can see the future... this will be my most challenging fight.
Olivie: Gee When Jaw?
Ji Wen Ja: You work for IRS? I... no English, sorry!
Olivie: The Fang sends me for your key.
Ji Wen Ja: Wait! You work for Lu? He want key right? How much he pay you?
Olivie: A lot...
Ji Wen Ja: What? Lu a liar. You bring him key, he go senile, say "what deal, I don't know deal". You not trust Lu! Ji Wen Ja your friend!
Olivie: Is that your final offer?
Olivie: Now I hate the Fang too.
Olivie: For your key, Ji Wen Ja offered 30 percent of his trove.
Lu Fang: 30 percent? You think Ji Wen Ja can afford to pay 30 percent? He need money for child bait. Got to buy comic book and video game. Ask him about nephew in bathroom! Do world favor. Kill Ji Wen Ja. I give you 40 percent!
Olivie: For forty, I will do this dark deed. Farewell.
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Olivie: The fang outbids you again...
Olivie: The money is bloody, but it is all mine. Stupid, but lucrative.
Ji Wen Ja: Stupid? What do you mean?
Olivie: One gets death, one gets nothing. I get everything!
Ji Wen Ja: I hate Lu that much!
Olivie: Old fools equals more stuff than I can purchase.
Ji Wen Ja: Old fool! I show you! No money for you! No more hit. Lu and I will take money and split it. The hell with you! Goddamn mercenary! Trying to take old man's money!
Olivie: ...suckers...
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Olivie: Ji Wen Ja says two wolves are better than one.
Olivie: Perhaps a better deal with Ji Wen Ja.
Lu Fang: Lu Fang talk to Ji Wen Ja. Make things right. Or die. Better odds though- better stakes to deal with Ji Wen Ja than you. Cold-blooded mercenary math whiz! Sorry!
Old Wolves are hard on my noodle. I need to restock.
No noodles... chopped hands.
Olivie: Blah, bleh, blee, bleh?
Noodle Girl: I saw you enter the temple... suspicious... I know what you are.
Olivie: Mad... about god. Religious, not suspicious.
Noodle Girl: Re-ligious? Shirimasen, but all creature, even evil creature have a place in the world. I have no vengeance for you, but I can.
Olivie: That's crazy, you're crazy. But not me. Yes, you are- no, you are!
Noodle Girl: I talk with demon when I should kill it. Crazy... yes, I agree.
Olivie: Are you lost? Japan is that way.
Olivie: Me and the Kuei-Jin, we're like apples and horseshoe crabs.
Yukie: I hunt to Kuei-Jin. I hunt Hengeyokai. My sensei killed demon that killed my family, and now I take the life of his killer. I follow trail of corpses from Japan to Rosu Angeresu... Hengeyokai is here and it will die here.
Olivie: Something smells fishy...
Yukie: Yes! Hengeyokai smells like fish! Do you know?
Olivie: I smell something. What is it?
Yukie: Hengeyokai is a demon that hides in the skin of a man, but is not a man.
Olivie: It masquerades... I know this bit.
Yukie: I know he is nearby... edo... I lose its trail. Do you meet Hengeyokai?
Olivie: If I smell it, I will come get you.
Olivie: Your fate is sad, but then so is mine.
It smelled fishy with the mistress of mirrors...
Olivie: I seek a horrendous Hengeyokai.
Xiao: Ah yes, the Hengeyokai. Zygaena, I believe his name was. I had nearly forgotten him.
Olivie: Zygaena? Zany!
Xiao: He announced his presence in our domain, and I granted him permission to operate. He does not act on my behalf however, I can assure you.
Olivie: Where hides this churlish changeling?
Xiao: I believe he said he operates an importing business and entertains clients at the Red Dragon.
Let us leave before I feel icky again...
Hmm... do you smell that?
No... but you have the nose.
Olivie: Something smells fishy...
Zygaena?: I have a reputation for delivering product. I have more reason to be suspicious of you.
Olivie: The stench is overwhelming...
Zygaena?: I'm not a patient man. Are you here to make a deal or not?
Olivie: Does your mother have a son named Zygaena?
Zygaena?: No, and I would rather you did not suggest such a thing. He is a business associate... not one I enjoy dealing with, either.
Olivie: Talk about him.
Olivie: Say his name and you will never see him again...
Not Zygaena: Oh, you plan to kill him?
Olivie: Kill or talk? Which one involves an exchange of free ideas?
Not Zygaena: Talk? I don't know... he is a somewhat paranoid man. I'm afraid if you were to try anything, I will be punished.
Olivie: The dead only punish our nostrils with their stench.
Not Zygaena: Yes, that's what I wanted to hear. If that's your goal, i'd be willing to help arrange a meeting with him.
Olivie: I am so serious it's comical. I am gone.
Olivie: The demon you pursue...
Yukie: Doko desu ka? Where?
Olivie: It hides its scent in the fish market. Let us be like ninjas and surprise it.
Yukie: You want to kill Hengeyokai with me? Why?
Olivie: It smells like fish and Kuei-Jin.
Yukie: Fish Market de ikimasu. See you there, demon.
Fish aren't so tough. They don't even have legs.
Rather impractical to hunt demons in...
We would never be so silly.
In we go!
Olivie: HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Zygaena!: You're both here... my hunter and my target, this is very convenient.
Olivie: WOO HOO HA HA HA HA...
Zygaena!: Hmm-mmm-mmm... heh heh... surprise...
Fish transformer! Yet more things that should not be...
Its legs are ready to be chopped off!
It hits us too hard to slice up...
Stay away and use Mercury's Might.
Olivie used explosive freezing tank on Fishmonster!
It's super effective!
Throwing his small brothers at us... we can dodge them, but his claws hurt...
No good to us if the hunter dies... hurry.
Easy as fish-flavored cup-pies.
Olivie: Wow... bet you're glad that thing didn't have tentacles, huh?
Yukie: Defy your nature, demon. Man can suffer without your help. Sayonara.
Let us sit and rest a moment...
The Zhao is next door, when we are ready.
How convenient!
I could never resist pulling that line either :P
Well, it makes sense. If it did, she would have been screwed.
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I'm going to go fellate a gun now.
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All Kuei-jin are of asian descent, yes, but there are isolated cases of Kuei-jin arising outside of the Middle Kingdom... in Chinatowns, or isolated Hmong communities in the US, for example. It's even happened that an asian child adopted by foreigners will come back... that's exceedingly rare, however. Part of the reason the Kuei-Jin are in Los Angeles in the first place is to make the area metaphysically more like the East, so that more Kuei-Jin will spawn there. This is why Ming Xiao is such a strong supporter of both Chinatown and the tongs.
The Middle Kingdom, by the way, extends from India eastward, and as far north as Mongolia.
There are similar creatures to the Kuei-Jin in the West that are just wraiths who possess their own dead bodies. They're basically the same as Brandon Lee's character in The Crow and return to finish their business from life.
Where'd be a good place to read up on all the lore from V:TM? This stuff is really interesting to read.
The official White Wolf homepage has forums where you can have any question about their games answered by obsessive nerds like myself.
For their old games like V:tM, go to the "Old World of Darkness" forum.
http://www.white-wolf.com/
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There's a thread in Critical Failures on the subject, but way back in...2003, I want to say, White Wolf ended the original World of Darkness and remade it with some lessons they'd learned doing the WoD in mind.
You start with the "World of Darkness Corebook", which has all the rules, as well as ghosts and rules for making mortals. It is supported by a line of supplements designed for monster hunters, investigators, etc- X Files, Ultraviolet (British series), Supernatural kinds of characters.
Then there are three major game lines- Vampire: The Requiem, Mage: The Awakening and Werewolf: The Forsaken. These all have a truckload of supplements. Requiem is very much like Masquerade; differing in some of the finer details and being much better constructed. The other two are significant revisions of the oWoD and barely resemble their predecessor. There are two limited-run game lines with a fixed number of supplements- Promethean: The Created (5 books) and Changeling: The Lost (6 books). WW intends to release one such limited-run every year.
Stylistically, the nWoD is more toolkit, slightly better edited and you'll occasionally see an index. No metaplot, lots of options, sourcebooks aren't written in first person narratives- they're much closer to most other RPG supplements, which often makes people decry them as "boring!" but you gain a lot in information.
EDIT: I would kill to see a Bloodlines-style (only, you know, better made) game set in the nWoD.
I'm guessing the NWoD is a better setting for the MMORPG that they're designing, however. Hearing the rules lawyers complain that Justicars would never allow my Tzimisce antitribu to go on a Camarilla raid on Sasha Vykos would be the last fucking straw.