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    Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Add me to the group that says EDF 2017.

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    darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I'll probably get crucified for saying this but Amped 3 was a whole lot of win. Who knew a story based snow boarding game would actually be somewhat enjoyable?

    Well I don't know about others, but it certainly seemed to get good scores in reviews and "game of the year" stuff, and I really enjoyed it too. Which I was quite surprised by, to be honest.

    edit: h5 to ben.

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Earth Defense Force.

    Scientifically proven to be eighteen flavours of win.

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    Clutch414Clutch414 Dodge Swinger.... ...WHENEVER IT FEELS RIGHT!!!Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    As far as XBLA games, if you're into rhythm games, try out Boom Boom Rocket. It's total stoner-vision.

    Edit: Outpost Kaloki X is pretty entertaining also.

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    ben0207ben0207 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    darleysam wrote: »
    I'll probably get crucified for saying this but Amped 3 was a whole lot of win. Who knew a story based snow boarding game would actually be somewhat enjoyable?

    Well I don't know about others, but it certainly seemed to get good scores in reviews and "game of the year" stuff, and I really enjoyed it too. Which I was quite surprised by, to be honest.

    edit: h5 to ben.

    ^5

    (couldn't leave you hanging now, could I?)

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    Clutch414Clutch414 Dodge Swinger.... ...WHENEVER IT FEELS RIGHT!!!Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Jazz wrote: »
    Battlestations Midway tends to go forgotten even in these threads. It's a blast. Submarines, battleships and planes, all at the same time, and kick-ass multiplayer.

    BS: Midway is a ton of fun. It's a WWII RTS/Simple Flight Sim/Simple Naval Sim hybrid.
    Man...that's a lot of slashes.

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    darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    ben0207 wrote: »
    darleysam wrote: »
    I'll probably get crucified for saying this but Amped 3 was a whole lot of win. Who knew a story based snow boarding game would actually be somewhat enjoyable?

    Well I don't know about others, but it certainly seemed to get good scores in reviews and "game of the year" stuff, and I really enjoyed it too. Which I was quite surprised by, to be honest.

    edit: h5 to ben.

    ^5

    (couldn't leave you hanging now, could I?)

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    Wait, what?

    To the OP, I would heartily suggest making extensive use of the available demos and XBLA trials. There's a whole lot of gold out there if you're looking.

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    bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I forgot Blue Dragon. Got much worse reviews (on average) and sales than it deserved. For JRPG fans only, but it's a really good game. The story and characters are shallow, but the cutscenes are really entertaining, the graphics and sound are incredible, and the battle and leveling systems are really well done.

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    RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I've been playing blue dragon lately. I usually don't play many JRPG's, but I actually love the game. So I guess I may be the exception to the rule.

    Also, shame on all of you for not mentioning chromehounds. You can find it around $15 dollars now, but its fun as hell, especially if you get into it and start playing online. I don't know quite how it is, but I know they nerfed shotgun karts(thank god), so things should be pretty nice.

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    l_gl_g Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Lunker wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    Wartech aka "Senko No Ronde" is a mashup between a Shmup and a Fighting game, is pretty cheap now, and it one of the main reasons I want to get a 360.

    THIS. its weird in that it kind of sucks superficially, seemingly low production values and character stories that make absolutely no sense, but its quite deep and entertaining, especially for the price I paid. It's definitely part of my reason for building an arcade stick, so there's gotta be something there if its motivating me to do something.

    I rented WarTech and thought it was terrible -- and I love shmups. $10 is still $10 too much, IMO. If you haven't played it, I'd reserve your frothing demand until you try it out.

    Add me as another person who thought Wartech was awful. I bought it after hearing good things about it and it sounded pretty cool, but after playing it it was just ridiculously shallow and about as fun as fun as getting salt poured into my eyes whilst a rhino anally raped me.

    At first it looks kind of crappy, there's not really any argument there; it was originally made on what is more or less Dreamcast hardware, and it doesn't even look as good as the best DC games.

    The whole game is about movement and spacing, and the manual does a surprisingly good job of detailing how the dashing mechanics work. However, the manual is outright incorrect in the moves list for a number of characters, and if you try to do their moves as the manual has written you may not get it at all. Pretty crappy, that part there.

    If there's one part that people do complain about, it's the BOSS mode... because often it seems like Vanish BOSS activation is some kind of "I WIN" button. And yeah, some people's BOSS modes are much better than others, and some outright suck. But if you can learn how to defeat each of the boss patterns (and it's not impossible), you get to enjoy watching your opponent go "OH SHI-" as you survive it, activate your own afterwards and pwn his sorry 0-health Vanish-state person.

    But that's not what's really important.

    What's really important is

    EDF! EDF!
    Earth Defense Force 2017 is the best game on the 360.
    At least, it's my favourite game on the 360.
    And to hell with all of those who think the voices in the game suck. They add so much to the game that I would never play the game with them off.
    EDF! EDF!

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    CarolinaBBQCarolinaBBQ Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I just got to say that I hate the way Catan was done for arcade. I would absolutely love to be able to have my wife or a friend sit down next to me and play a game on the same console together without ALL of us having to have GOLD accounts. I can only play online multiplayer and the local is only against the computer.
    If I am wrong about this, please tell me what I have done wrong.

    Haven't played it yet, but isn't Carcassone (sp?) a better value for someone in my situation?

    Regarding the actual topic of discussion, I gotta point out Earth Defense and The Outfit for any bargain hunters out there. The Outfit was a blast and it felt like I was playing with my little green army men again. :)

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    GibbGibb Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I don't know if Hitman is obscure, but its still one of my best 360 games.

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    WienkeWienke Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    What's kinda strange is that I don't really think the 360 has any titles that I would really consider obscure.

    If a game is somewhat good, someone has sung its praises to death somewhere on the internets and likely on this forum.

    This is actually a good thing since I don't think any games this generation are actually rare by any means. It's a different story for the PSP, PS2 and the DS though...

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    l_gl_g Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Wienke wrote: »
    What's kinda strange is that I don't really think the 360 has any titles that I would really consider obscure.

    If a game is somewhat good, someone has sung its praises to death somewhere on the internets and likely on this forum.

    Yeah, I wouldn't say that they're quite as obscure as... well, some of the games on consoles that were never in North America, and it's hard to say that any game during the time of its generation plus the internet is THAT obscure.

    That said, some games like Ronde and EDF have their threads frequented muchly by people that ALREADY have or have played the game... just look at the post/view count. It's not that high. And they're certainly a long ways away from being big hits.

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    JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I just got to say that I hate the way Catan was done for arcade. I would absolutely love to be able to have my wife or a friend sit down next to me and play a game on the same console together without ALL of us having to have GOLD accounts. I can only play online multiplayer and the local is only against the computer.
    If I am wrong about this, please tell me what I have done wrong.

    Isn't the problem with Catan and other games, such as Uno, is that the cards you hold in your hand need to be kept secret from other players? I'm not sure how you could do local multiplayer on one screen, unless the game can convince everyone in the room not to cheat by looking at each other's cards on the screen somehow (which seems rather implausible). Carcassone doesn't have this problem, due to the way the game works (no secrecy needed).

    If anyone has a good suggestion on how to bypass the secrecy thing in a local multiplayer game, I'd love to hear it. (And I'll float it up to the right people to see if they've heard of it, since I've worked with that group before)

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    LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    DS connectivity is the only solution I can think of...

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    SandersSanders Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    JCRooks wrote: »
    I just got to say that I hate the way Catan was done for arcade. I would absolutely love to be able to have my wife or a friend sit down next to me and play a game on the same console together without ALL of us having to have GOLD accounts. I can only play online multiplayer and the local is only against the computer.
    If I am wrong about this, please tell me what I have done wrong.

    Isn't the problem with Catan and other games, such as Uno, is that the cards you hold in your hand need to be kept secret from other players? I'm not sure how you could do local multiplayer on one screen, unless the game can convince everyone in the room not to cheat by looking at each other's cards on the screen somehow (which seems rather implausible). Carcassone doesn't have this problem, due to the way the game works (no secrecy needed).

    If anyone has a good suggestion on how to bypass the secrecy thing in a local multiplayer game, I'd love to hear it. (And I'll float it up to the right people to see if they've heard of it, since I've worked with that group before)

    Same problem is right there along with looking at another person's screen in a FPS game to stop them fron sneaking up behind you. A few games can solve that issue, such as Texas Hold'em by having it deal out the cards, warn the player that it is there turn and while they hold in the A button their cards will appear, and after a counter it goes to the next person. Each person in the room would have to be trust worthy enough to not look on the deal. This would work for Texas Hold'em cause once you see your two cards you are good to go, unlike uno where your hand is constantly changing.

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    warder808warder808 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I haven't seen many people play this LIVE game: Wik: The Fable of Souls

    A beautiful and mysterious world of fairytale charm unfolds in Wik: Fable of Souls as you swing by your ... tongue? Wik offers up more than 120 single-player levels and seven different modes of play. Up to four players can join in on the fun in multiplayer modes, where an action frenzy of firebug-dodging, acorn-spitting, and swing-chasing mayhem is sure to satisfy!

    Its a fun puzzle game, if you like swinging around.

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    PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Eternal Sonata?

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    Nimble CatNimble Cat Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Get Space Giraffe, now.

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Pharezon wrote: »
    Eternal Sonata?

    Still has advertisements for it playing on television. I wouldn't call it obscure by any stretch of the word. :P

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    -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Nimble Cat wrote: »
    Get Space Giraffe, now.
    Nah you'd be better off with frogger :lol:

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    bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    -SPI- wrote: »
    Nimble Cat wrote: »
    Get Space Giraffe, now.
    Nah you'd be better off with frogger :lol:

    You're going to make Jeff Minter cry :(

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    meatflowermeatflower Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I just got to say that I hate the way Catan was done for arcade. I would absolutely love to be able to have my wife or a friend sit down next to me and play a game on the same console together without ALL of us having to have GOLD accounts. I can only play online multiplayer and the local is only against the computer.
    If I am wrong about this, please tell me what I have done wrong.

    Haven't played it yet, but isn't Carcassone (sp?) a better value for someone in my situation?

    Regarding the actual topic of discussion, I gotta point out Earth Defense and The Outfit for any bargain hunters out there. The Outfit was a blast and it felt like I was playing with my little green army men again. :)

    I snagged Carcasonne when it was free about a week ago. It's pretty good but I don't know if I would have payed for it otherwise. The game will do same console multiplayer without gold accounts. Download the trial and see how it suits you.

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    Namel3ssNamel3ss Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Jazz is right, Carcassonne is like the most addictive XBLA game ever. I wrote it off as one of those "complicated german games" but it is super easy to learn and hard to master. That is a must-have.

    Beautiful Katamari is a great entry point into the series and has a ton of content. Fans of the series wrote it off as "another katamari game" but if it is your first time you will enjoy it for sure.

    I downloaded the katamari demo. . . maybe its because I have never played one before, or perhaps I missed something; but, WTF would anyone play this game? You roll around as this little ball over crap thrown in the street with some with bright seizure inducing effects then something about a creepy creature who calls itself a prince for no reason. Total crack game with no point as far as I could see.

    (hoping that some fan is going to come in here and point out all the amazing fine qualities and what the point is, because I really lost some faith in the gamer community on that one)



    Ah, the topic at hand. . . I didn't really enjoy Amped 3 as much . . . not a bad game, but I really enjoyed the play of SSX3 more. For arcade, not really obscure, but I get a ton of play out of Puzzle Quest and Lumines. (Catan, Geo Wars go without saying). My favorite major titles have already been well covered.

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    bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Namel3ss wrote: »
    I downloaded the katamari demo. . . maybe its because I have never played one before, or perhaps I missed something; but, WTF would anyone play this game? You roll around as this little ball over crap thrown in the street with some with bright seizure inducing effects then something about a creepy creature who calls itself a prince for no reason. Total crack game with no point as far as I could see.

    That's part of why a lot of people like the series.

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    Rey Del AguilaRey Del Aguila __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2007
    Oddworld Stranger's Wrath.

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    JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Sanders wrote: »
    JCRooks wrote: »
    I just got to say that I hate the way Catan was done for arcade. I would absolutely love to be able to have my wife or a friend sit down next to me and play a game on the same console together without ALL of us having to have GOLD accounts. I can only play online multiplayer and the local is only against the computer.
    If I am wrong about this, please tell me what I have done wrong.

    Isn't the problem with Catan and other games, such as Uno, is that the cards you hold in your hand need to be kept secret from other players? I'm not sure how you could do local multiplayer on one screen, unless the game can convince everyone in the room not to cheat by looking at each other's cards on the screen somehow (which seems rather implausible). Carcassone doesn't have this problem, due to the way the game works (no secrecy needed).

    If anyone has a good suggestion on how to bypass the secrecy thing in a local multiplayer game, I'd love to hear it. (And I'll float it up to the right people to see if they've heard of it, since I've worked with that group before)

    Same problem is right there along with looking at another person's screen in a FPS game to stop them fron sneaking up behind you. A few games can solve that issue, such as Texas Hold'em by having it deal out the cards, warn the player that it is there turn and while they hold in the A button their cards will appear, and after a counter it goes to the next person. Each person in the room would have to be trust worthy enough to not look on the deal. This would work for Texas Hold'em cause once you see your two cards you are good to go, unlike uno where your hand is constantly changing.

    With an FPS, the advantage of knowing where your enemy is located is nice, but ultimately not as important as your actual skill in being able to take him/her down. With certain card/board games, it's all about tactics and strategy, so secrecy is often much more important.

    As for your example, you admit that you have to have everyone in the room be trustworthy. As I mentioned in my original post, yeah that's always possible, but it's certainly not ideal at all. Especially in a party situation, the game may devolve into a "make sure he's not cheating!" situation which, while fun, isn't what the game is ultimately about.

    Something like DS connectivity, as someone else suggested, would be cool. Didn't the Dreamcast do something similar with the VU embedded in the controller? I think having some sort of add-on to the controller, which has a miniature screen, would be cool for party games like this.

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    ReverendToastReverendToast Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I loved Oddworld Strangers Wrath, but I don't think it is playable on the 360 yet. (I can't verify this cuz I had to Send my 360 into repair at the end of September and they sent me a broken one back... still haven't gotten THAT repair returned.)

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    LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Yeah, it's not on the official BC list...

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