15 years of Piano? Nice. Totally outclasses my....2 months now? Of bass.
Really, you don't have to be Jaco or anything to play pop music. Know the scales, know the keys, you're good.
Yeah, some songs are really easy. Hell, there are some full blown songs I can pretty much already play. However, settling for mediocrity aint my cup of tea, and I lack any sort of real knowledge of music theory, but the lessons should rectify that. I might take a couple music courses next semester too.
I'm not saying the entire song is the same. Just the melody of "Like the coldest winter chill" sounds very similar to the opening of the vocal line to Heart Shaped Box. After I noticed that, I just kept thinking Heart Shaped Box. It doesn't help that, in that song at least, the band sounds like a pop-ier version of Nirvana.
They're contemporaries, and before you get it twisted, Nirvana is nothing but a more marketable version of the Pixies.
Although I did go to a bull fight in Spain and I have to admit it was one of the most profound experiences of my life. Nothing short of life-changing, that.
I heard those are violent. I don't think I would go to one.
They are violent. A man murders a bull by driving a sword between its shoulder blades directly through its heart (that is if he does it right).
Still, you'd be missing out if you never went.
Don't they get impaled by spears first?
On the plus side, the bull does have a chance to gore the dude. Also, they eat it afterwards.
I'm honestly interested, not trying to be a jerk or anything. I've never had any music lessons in my life and I'm curious as to what point it is you're making.
gundam470 on
0
Options
Hi I'm Vee!Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C ERegistered Userregular
15 years of Piano? Nice. Totally outclasses my....2 months now? Of bass.
Really, you don't have to be Jaco or anything to play pop music. Know the scales, know the keys, you're good.
Yeah, some songs are really easy. Hell, there are some full blown songs I can pretty much already play. However, settling for mediocrity aint my cup of tea, and I lack any sort of real knowledge of music theory, but the lessons should rectify that. I might take a couple music courses next semester too.
I can probably teach you a lot of theory. My piano teacher was pretty anal about learning it.
Although I did go to a bull fight in Spain and I have to admit it was one of the most profound experiences of my life. Nothing short of life-changing, that.
I heard those are violent. I don't think I would go to one.
They are violent. A man murders a bull by driving a sword between its shoulder blades directly through its heart (that is if he does it right).
Still, you'd be missing out if you never went.
Don't they get impaled by spears first?
On the plus side, the bull does have a chance to gore the dude. Also, they eat it afterwards.
I heard if the matador sucks it could be a long death for the bull.
It's an animal. It's no different than fucking with a character in a video game. It isn't a person. Why should I care?
Holy shit, I just lost what ever respect I had for you. I mean, internet respect and all, but still.
There is something wrong with you.
Or, maybe my upbringing had me instilled with different values than yours concerning the rights and worth of animals?
Yeah? Maybe you shouldn't use that as a crutch.
If you understand that you think differently because of your upbringing, you aren't confined by it.
Yeah, and I'm not confined by it and I'm not using it as a crutch. I don't have any desire to go against what I've been taught. Again: Why is it okay to kill an animal but not okay to hurt one? I assume because hurting things is bad?
Well why is it okay to kill an animal but not okay to kill a human? There is no reason, that's just what we accept as truth.
It's an animal. It's no different than fucking with a character in a video game. It isn't a person. Why should I care?
Why should you care about people, since they're animals?
Because people are people. Humans are humans. Animals are property.
See and you aren't even explaing why animals are property, is it because we are superior to animals?
They're bought and sold, which pretty much makes them property by definition. If you can own it, it's property.
But what about wild animals? Or just a stray dogs that don't have any owner. Just because you can buy some animals, do you extend that owning of property to other animals aswell?
Resources that are unallocated are still resources. If someone loses a book, or throws it away, it doesn't stop being property, it's just no longer owned.
Truly wild animals - wolves and whatnot - are the property of whoever owns the land they're on at any given point, unless they're protected, in which case they're the property of the government, as are any animals whose hunting is regulated.
15 years of Piano? Nice. Totally outclasses my....2 months now? Of bass.
Really, you don't have to be Jaco or anything to play pop music. Know the scales, know the keys, you're good.
Yeah, some songs are really easy. Hell, there are some full blown songs I can pretty much already play. However, settling for mediocrity aint my cup of tea, and I lack any sort of real knowledge of music theory, but the lessons should rectify that. I might take a couple music courses next semester too.
Oh yeah, of course, that's what experience gives you though. You can hold your own as soon as you can play a C scale at a quarter note pace. After that, it's just about fucking around with the strings on your way to virtuosity.
It's an animal. It's no different than fucking with a character in a video game. It isn't a person. Why should I care?
Holy shit, I just lost what ever respect I had for you. I mean, internet respect and all, but still.
There is something wrong with you.
Or, maybe my upbringing had me instilled with different values than yours concerning the rights and worth of animals?
Yeah? Maybe you shouldn't use that as a crutch.
If you understand that you think differently because of your upbringing, you aren't confined by it.
Yeah, and I'm not confined by it and I'm not using it as a crutch. I don't have any desire to go against what I've been taught. Again: Why is it okay to kill an animal but not okay to hurt one? I assume because hurting things is bad?
Well why is it okay to kill an animal but not okay to kill a human? There is no reason, that's just what we accept as truth.
If you can't tell the difference between killing an animal for food and hurting and animal just because you want to well... we can't help you, maybe go see some help.
15 years of Piano? Nice. Totally outclasses my....2 months now? Of bass.
Really, you don't have to be Jaco or anything to play pop music. Know the scales, know the keys, you're good.
Yeah, some songs are really easy. Hell, there are some full blown songs I can pretty much already play. However, settling for mediocrity aint my cup of tea, and I lack any sort of real knowledge of music theory, but the lessons should rectify that. I might take a couple music courses next semester too.
I can probably teach you a lot of theory. My piano teacher was pretty anal about learning it.
I'm down, you got like a facebook or something too?
I'm honestly interested, not trying to be a jerk or anything. I've never had any music lessons in my life and I'm curious as to what point it is you're making.
The two songs are just really obviously different to me and I'm teasing mainly. The instrumentation is similar (as it is in most rock music) but the melodies are pretty obviously varied, the vocal lines don't line up at all, and the later stages of the song vary greatly. But I mean I guess it rang a bell with Irene, so there you have it.
I'm not saying the entire song is the same. Just the melody of "Like the coldest winter chill" sounds very similar to the opening of the vocal line to Heart Shaped Box. After I noticed that, I just kept thinking Heart Shaped Box. It doesn't help that, in that song at least, the band sounds like a pop-ier version of Nirvana.
They're contemporaries, and before you get it twisted, Nirvana is nothing but a more marketable version of the Pixies.
I'm not saying the entire song is the same. Just the melody of "Like the coldest winter chill" sounds very similar to the opening of the vocal line to Heart Shaped Box. After I noticed that, I just kept thinking Heart Shaped Box. It doesn't help that, in that song at least, the band sounds like a pop-ier version of Nirvana.
They're contemporaries, and before you get it twisted, Nirvana is nothing but a more marketable version of the Pixies.
Really? By my own admission I'm only familiar with Nirvana singles, never listened to an album, but I didn't really see a similarity between the two bands. of course I just picked up the pixies about a month ago.
It's an animal. It's no different than fucking with a character in a video game. It isn't a person. Why should I care?
Holy shit, I just lost what ever respect I had for you. I mean, internet respect and all, but still.
There is something wrong with you.
Or, maybe my upbringing had me instilled with different values than yours concerning the rights and worth of animals?
Yeah? Maybe you shouldn't use that as a crutch.
If you understand that you think differently because of your upbringing, you aren't confined by it.
Yeah, and I'm not confined by it and I'm not using it as a crutch. I don't have any desire to go against what I've been taught. Again: Why is it okay to kill an animal but not okay to hurt one? I assume because hurting things is bad?
Well why is it okay to kill an animal but not okay to kill a human? There is no reason, that's just what we accept as truth.
If you can't tell the difference between killing an animal for food and hurting and animal just because you want to well... we can't help you, maybe go see some help.
Way to dodge the question. Why can't I kill a human for food?
I'll admit, I enjoy picking off birds with my pellet gun. Is this wrong? Maybe. Will I ever stop? Probably not.
Even though I still would never torture a cat, or most animals for that matter, I don't have the moral ground to stand on to tell anyone else it's wrong.
Like it or not, we are above them on the food chain. It is our privilege, not our duty, to let them live peacefully.
I'm generally against needless pain. I'm also against the unnecessary termination of sentience. These find shooting birds in a greyish neutral area, but staged animal fights barbaric.
I can respect that, and even agree. When it comes to deciding what is necessary or not, though, sometimes perspective means everything. When you've got a dozen large birds eating your cow's food, costing you an unknown amount of money, to me it becomes necessary because grain isn't cheap. Although I'm sure others would disagree with me.
Does having a logical reason really make it any better, though?
Oh yeah, of course, that's what experience gives you though. You can hold your own as soon as you can play a C scale at a quarter note pace. After that, it's just about fucking around with the strings on your way to virtuosity.
Man, you're one of those people that can make people think they can achieve anything, eh?
I'm not saying the entire song is the same. Just the melody of "Like the coldest winter chill" sounds very similar to the opening of the vocal line to Heart Shaped Box. After I noticed that, I just kept thinking Heart Shaped Box. It doesn't help that, in that song at least, the band sounds like a pop-ier version of Nirvana.
They're contemporaries, and before you get it twisted, Nirvana is nothing but a more marketable version of the Pixies.
Get what twisted? I've never heard of the Pixies before, I'll have to look into that.
It's an animal. It's no different than fucking with a character in a video game. It isn't a person. Why should I care?
Holy shit, I just lost what ever respect I had for you. I mean, internet respect and all, but still.
There is something wrong with you.
Or, maybe my upbringing had me instilled with different values than yours concerning the rights and worth of animals?
Yeah? Maybe you shouldn't use that as a crutch.
If you understand that you think differently because of your upbringing, you aren't confined by it.
Yeah, and I'm not confined by it and I'm not using it as a crutch. I don't have any desire to go against what I've been taught. Again: Why is it okay to kill an animal but not okay to hurt one? I assume because hurting things is bad?
Well why is it okay to kill an animal but not okay to kill a human? There is no reason, that's just what we accept as truth.
If you can't tell the difference between killing an animal for food and hurting and animal just because you want to well... we can't help you, maybe go see some help.
Way to dodge the question. Why can't I kill a human for food?
Well isn't cannibalism against the law?
Look Out it's Sabs! on
NNID: Sabuiy
3DS: 2852-6809-9411
0
Options
Hi I'm Vee!Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C ERegistered Userregular
15 years of Piano? Nice. Totally outclasses my....2 months now? Of bass.
Really, you don't have to be Jaco or anything to play pop music. Know the scales, know the keys, you're good.
Yeah, some songs are really easy. Hell, there are some full blown songs I can pretty much already play. However, settling for mediocrity aint my cup of tea, and I lack any sort of real knowledge of music theory, but the lessons should rectify that. I might take a couple music courses next semester too.
I can probably teach you a lot of theory. My piano teacher was pretty anal about learning it.
I'm down, you got like a facebook or something too?
It's an animal. It's no different than fucking with a character in a video game. It isn't a person. Why should I care?
Holy shit, I just lost what ever respect I had for you. I mean, internet respect and all, but still.
There is something wrong with you.
Or, maybe my upbringing had me instilled with different values than yours concerning the rights and worth of animals?
Yeah? Maybe you shouldn't use that as a crutch.
If you understand that you think differently because of your upbringing, you aren't confined by it.
Yeah, and I'm not confined by it and I'm not using it as a crutch. I don't have any desire to go against what I've been taught. Again: Why is it okay to kill an animal but not okay to hurt one? I assume because hurting things is bad?
Well why is it okay to kill an animal but not okay to kill a human? There is no reason, that's just what we accept as truth.
Cannibalism is something that is taboo to the entire planet. Very few things will eat their own kind. I'm not going to kill a human to eat him.
Most humans don't do that and neither do most animals.
We kill and eat animals for the same reason an animal would kill and eat us.
That doesn't give us the right to torture something.
On the plus side, the bull does have a chance to gore the dude. Also, they eat it afterwards.
Yeah, they gouge them in the back of the neck to weaken their neck muscles and then stick six small darts into the same area before the matador ever comes face to face with them. There's an art to wounding it without completely weakening it, but at the same time insuring the matador's safety.
I'm not saying the entire song is the same. Just the melody of "Like the coldest winter chill" sounds very similar to the opening of the vocal line to Heart Shaped Box. After I noticed that, I just kept thinking Heart Shaped Box. It doesn't help that, in that song at least, the band sounds like a pop-ier version of Nirvana.
They're contemporaries, and before you get it twisted, Nirvana is nothing but a more marketable version of the Pixies.
Get what twisted? I've never heard of the Pixies before, I'll have to look into that.
You should. That way you can get all pretentious when people bring up Nirvana.
Personally, while it's not that realistic, I wonder if it would be healthy if everyone who consumed meat had to take part in the process at least once in their lives, to acknowledge and understand the significance of the chunk of stuff on their plate, and have some concern for the life of the animal they're pouring A-1 over.
If nothing else, it's nice to be a predator and not wholly a scavenger.
--
Cannibalism isn't automatically unethical. It's just very stupid. Like consensual incest, or unsanitary kinks.
There are people comparing deer to dogs here? Seriously?
That's my point, why does one have more value than the other?
Easy answer? Culture. And no, I don't think people killing dogs are uncultured, other cultures have no problem with it. But as it were, in most western cultures dogs were needed for other things than being eaten or killed in fights. It's practically the same thing as just shooting horses would be an immoral thing for many people, as with cows in some countries.
I heard if the matador sucks it could be a long death for the bull.
Yeah, if the matador does poorly they have to take a small knife and stab them right at the base of the spinal column, right below the skull. One bull I saw get killed walked around, fell over, got back up, walked around some more, before someone finally came out and knifed it. It took about 90 seconds I'd say for that one to die. It was pretty gruesome, but an experience to take in all the same.
The Green Eyed Monster on
0
Options
VariableMouth CongressStroke Me Lady FameRegistered Userregular
edited December 2007
geometry wars is fun now that I'm good enough to not die instantly. still not very good, but at least I can see some improvement.
I'm not saying the entire song is the same. Just the melody of "Like the coldest winter chill" sounds very similar to the opening of the vocal line to Heart Shaped Box. After I noticed that, I just kept thinking Heart Shaped Box. It doesn't help that, in that song at least, the band sounds like a pop-ier version of Nirvana.
They're contemporaries, and before you get it twisted, Nirvana is nothing but a more marketable version of the Pixies.
Get what twisted? I've never heard of the Pixies before, I'll have to look into that.
You should. That way you can get all pretentious when people bring up Nirvana.
It's one of my own personal favorite pastimes.
Well, I can always fall back on my uselessly expansive knowledge of opera if I'm backed into a corner (not as bad as the really hardcore opera buffs, but I'm way past Marriage of Figaro, know what I'm saying?).
Posts
There's no winning or losing. Just more lost respect for Chuch.
3DS: 2852-6809-9411
Come to think of it, the Stone Ponies became the Eagles over the phone...
Yeah, some songs are really easy. Hell, there are some full blown songs I can pretty much already play. However, settling for mediocrity aint my cup of tea, and I lack any sort of real knowledge of music theory, but the lessons should rectify that. I might take a couple music courses next semester too.
Don't they get impaled by spears first?
On the plus side, the bull does have a chance to gore the dude. Also, they eat it afterwards.
Hmm I never thought of that.
yay everyone wins *except Church*.
3DS: 2852-6809-9411
I'm honestly interested, not trying to be a jerk or anything. I've never had any music lessons in my life and I'm curious as to what point it is you're making.
I can probably teach you a lot of theory. My piano teacher was pretty anal about learning it.
I heard if the matador sucks it could be a long death for the bull.
3DS: 2852-6809-9411
I love Heart Shaped Box. I'm just saying the chorus sounds like it was stolen :P
Yeah, and I'm not confined by it and I'm not using it as a crutch. I don't have any desire to go against what I've been taught. Again: Why is it okay to kill an animal but not okay to hurt one? I assume because hurting things is bad?
Well why is it okay to kill an animal but not okay to kill a human? There is no reason, that's just what we accept as truth.
I would never torture either, though I've been involved in the death of quite a few of the former.
They put basically big metal hooks in the bull first.
Resources that are unallocated are still resources. If someone loses a book, or throws it away, it doesn't stop being property, it's just no longer owned.
Truly wild animals - wolves and whatnot - are the property of whoever owns the land they're on at any given point, unless they're protected, in which case they're the property of the government, as are any animals whose hunting is regulated.
Oh yeah, of course, that's what experience gives you though. You can hold your own as soon as you can play a C scale at a quarter note pace. After that, it's just about fucking around with the strings on your way to virtuosity.
If you can't tell the difference between killing an animal for food and hurting and animal just because you want to well... we can't help you, maybe go see some help.
3DS: 2852-6809-9411
I have no problem with that.
I'm down, you got like a facebook or something too?
That's my point, why does one have more value than the other?
God, I hate it when you're so very, very right.
Really? By my own admission I'm only familiar with Nirvana singles, never listened to an album, but I didn't really see a similarity between the two bands. of course I just picked up the pixies about a month ago.
On the black screen
I would be so all over that stuff. You have the music written, or just the lyrics?
Way to dodge the question. Why can't I kill a human for food?
I can respect that, and even agree. When it comes to deciding what is necessary or not, though, sometimes perspective means everything. When you've got a dozen large birds eating your cow's food, costing you an unknown amount of money, to me it becomes necessary because grain isn't cheap. Although I'm sure others would disagree with me.
Does having a logical reason really make it any better, though?
Man, you're one of those people that can make people think they can achieve anything, eh?
Get what twisted? I've never heard of the Pixies before, I'll have to look into that.
Well isn't cannibalism against the law?
3DS: 2852-6809-9411
I'm playing Go on it as we speak.
Cannibalism is something that is taboo to the entire planet. Very few things will eat their own kind. I'm not going to kill a human to eat him.
Most humans don't do that and neither do most animals.
We kill and eat animals for the same reason an animal would kill and eat us.
That doesn't give us the right to torture something.
You should. That way you can get all pretentious when people bring up Nirvana.
It's one of my own personal favorite pastimes.
3DS: 2852-6809-9411
Personally, while it's not that realistic, I wonder if it would be healthy if everyone who consumed meat had to take part in the process at least once in their lives, to acknowledge and understand the significance of the chunk of stuff on their plate, and have some concern for the life of the animal they're pouring A-1 over.
If nothing else, it's nice to be a predator and not wholly a scavenger.
--
Cannibalism isn't automatically unethical. It's just very stupid. Like consensual incest, or unsanitary kinks.
Easy answer? Culture. And no, I don't think people killing dogs are uncultured, other cultures have no problem with it. But as it were, in most western cultures dogs were needed for other things than being eaten or killed in fights. It's practically the same thing as just shooting horses would be an immoral thing for many people, as with cows in some countries.
You have no way of vindicating your own beliefs against mine, so you resort to equating morality with legality. Classy.
Well, I can always fall back on my uselessly expansive knowledge of opera if I'm backed into a corner (not as bad as the really hardcore opera buffs, but I'm way past Marriage of Figaro, know what I'm saying?).