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Day 8:
The people of Los Angeles had had enough of the evil doings of Wolfram and Hart.
No, even beyond the evil that is done just by being a lawyer. These lawyers were the darkest, foulest
people ever to walk the earth. And that is saying something, since many of them are not human and fly or travel
in some other manner than walking. They gathered at the entryway and stormed past the guards, who -- though perfectly
willing to kill innocents -- were unsure they could fight the entire city at once. Willow, Oz, Gunn, Kate, and Buffy all
were along with the citizens to do what they could to help.
The elevator doors opened and Angelus grinned, ready for action (and dinner). Oz began transforming into a werewolf and
seemed to be a bit out of control but Willow managed to keep him in check with a quick containment spell.
Angelus then dodges past Buffy and snaps her neck, much like he did that of
Jenny Calendar a few years back. "Ding dong the bitch is dead," he sneered.
Buffy, infuriated by this, swings her sword, but misses the lithe demon and manages to kill Picardathon instead.
Gunn and Kate are trying to corral Wolfram & Hart employees who try to flee.
Someone grabs Gunn's shoulder to ask him a question, but Gunn is on a hair trigger and stabs behind him without even looking,
managing to kill Redimpulse.
The citizens from Los Angeles begin destroying everything they can get their hands on... Desks, tables, legal briefs for evil
clients like the Dark Emperor of the T'ash Dimension, Ashley Olsen, and the Master.
(Don't look so surprised; Mary Kate has always been the good one) The citizens from Sunnydale decided Locus was the Wolfram and Hart employee
who most deserved to die. In actuality, he was just a mail clerk and had just put in his two weeks notice. He had been hired on as a personal
assistant to Matt Damon. Mmm. But no matter, he's dead now. (Locus, that is. Not Mr. Damon)
The destroyed remnants of the law firm were then set on fire, so that it could do no more harm.
An unholy shriek was heard by many who were there and ran outside to watch the place burn.
Perhaps it was just the wind, although there was nary a gust that day.
Or perhaps it was the fury of the Senior Partners, who would have to start over again in their quest to destroy mankind.
Angelus, either caught by the flames or turned to ash when whatever magical apparatus that allowed him to survive without his counterpart of Angel,
was never seen from again.
Los Angeles was now free... free from evil. Well, at least supernatural evil. Have you ever met those chicks from Hollywood?
Those bitches are ruuuuuude.
Casualties:
Druhim (Willow) - Killed on Day 8 by the Senior Partners Locus (innocent) - Killed on Day 8 by the Sunnydale City Vote real_pochacco (Senior Partner) - Connection to the world destroyed on Day 8 by the Los Angeles City Vote
The Geebs That Is a Mod (Angelus) - Killed on Day 8 by the destruction of Wolfram & Hart Redimpulse (innocent) - Killed on Day 8 by Gunn
Picardathon (innocent) - Killed on Day 8 by Buffy
nevilleThe Worst Gay(Seriously. The Worst!)Registered Userregular
edited January 2008
Mechanics Explained Post 1
The favorite mechanic of Wiggin & mine was very rarely successful.
Every night Lorne could seer someone. The results were shown to everyone.
Every single special had their own song; only two fucking people got picked.
So yeah, lots of work for nothing, I suppose.
Here are the songs for Sunnydale:
Sunnydale-
Villains::
The Mayor:
"I never liked this apple much
It always seemed too big to touch
I can't remember how I found
My way before she came around
I tell everyone
I smile just because
I've got a city love
I found it in Lydia
And I can't remember
life before her name"
JOHN MAYER -- "CITY LOVE"
Spike:
"Is there any one at all
Anyone you didn`t call
Is there any one you didn`t deny
Is there any one you missed
Anyone you didn`t kiss
Is there any law you didn`t defy
I`m so angry
I`m so angry
Always chewing nails, it never, ever fails
I`m so angry
I`m so angry
Better hide my knife, better run for your life"
"I'M SO ANGRY" - ALICE COOPER
Evil Vampires (sired by Spike):
"Stranded
In a life in which your struggle for acceptance
Is a never-ending chore,
Upbraided
For your actions past and present and rewarded for the ideas
Of the future's bright open door.
"
HENCHMAN - BAD RELIGION
Drusilla
"I remember when, I remember, I remember when I lost my mind
There was something so pleasant about that place.
Even your emotions have an echo
In so much space
And when you're out there
Without care,
Yeah, I was out of touch
But it wasn't because I didn't know enough
I just knew too much"
"CRAZY" - GNARLS BARKLEY
Glory
"We can go all night long
Doing thing you thought you would never do
I won’t tell anyone
What we do it’s just for me and you
So come and play my game
I wanna make you holler and hear you
scream my name
I’ll give you rules to follow
So you can play my game
Imagine us together me driving you insane
You will give in to me
Don’t be afraid to play my game"
HOLLER - SPICE GIRLS
SCOOBIES:
Buffy
"We're at the mercy of so few
With evil hearts determined to
Reduce this planet into hell
Then find a buyer and make quick sale
To end upon a happy note
Like trying to make concrete float
Is very simple knowing that
God in your heart lives"
"SAVE THE WORLD" - GEORGE HARRISON
Xander
"Ive been pushed Ive been pulled
Ive been put out and trod on
Just by taking my chances I finally
Caught on
When I see in your eyes all the love
Shining through
Im so glad I held out for somebody
Like you"
"Tall, Dark Handsome Stranger" by Heart.
Willow
If your ass is a Chinese restaurant I'll have the poo-poo platter
My friend Jerry Vandergrift kissed me in Home Ec. class
Later in the afternoon some jarheads in the locker room kicked my ass
I said guys I'm like you I like Monster Trucks too
Wanna see how many push-ups I can do?
"I WISH I WAS QUEER SO I COULD GET CHICKS" - Bloodhound Gang
Tara
I'm in serious shit, I feel totally lost
If I'm asking for help it's only because
Being with you has opened my eyes
Could I ever believe such a perfect surprise?
I keep asking myself, wondering how
I keep closing my eyes but I can't block you out
Wanna fly to a place where it's just you and me
Nobody else so we can be free
Nobody else so we can be free
"ALL THE THINGS SHE SAID" - T.A.T.U.
Anya
"You'll change your mind,
Come Monday,
And turn your back on me,
You'll take your steps away with hesitance,
You'll take your steps away from me,
I'm making my peace,
I'm making it with distance,
Maybe that's a big mistake,
You know I"m thinking of you,
I miss you"
CAUTIONERS - JIMMY EAT WORLD
Giles
Breakin rocks in the hot sun
I fought the law and the law won (twice)
I needed money cause I had none
I fought the law and the law won (twice)
I left my baby and it feels so bad
Guess my race is run
Shes the best girl that I ever had
I fought the law and the law won
I fought the law and the
"I FOUGHT THE LAW" - THE CLASH
Dawn
"I never want another love
You're the only one I'm thinking of
And I want you easily
I know that you'll see
I never felt this way before
I want this feeling forever more
The way you do, the things you do
You won me over, oooohhhhh"
"TAKE THE KEY" - ALL SAINTS
Ben
"We can go all night long
Doing thing you thought you would never do
I won’t tell anyone
What we do it’s just for me and you
So come and play my game
I wanna make you holler and hear you
scream my name
I’ll give you rules to follow
So you can play my game
Imagine us together me driving you insane
You will give in to me
Don’t be afraid to play my game"
HOLLER - SPICE GIRLS
Oz
"He goes out in the evenin when the bats re on the wing
An hes killed some young maiden before the birds sing"
"THE WEREWOLF SONG" by CAT POWER
Faith:
"And I set up and tore down this stage with my own two hands
We've travel this land packed tight in mini vans
And all this for the fans, girls, money, and fame
I played their game
And as they scream my name
I will show no shame
I live and die for this
And if I come off soft
Then chew on this
Are you scared?"
KID ROCK - AMERICAN BAD ASS
For LA:
VILLAINS:
Lindsey McDonald
"There's a little girl down south
and her daddy's got a ranch 'bout as big as my town
And one day I swear I'm gonna go down there
and get around
From the letter that I got last Fall
says Juno you're the one I love most of all"
"SPIRIT BOY" - KANE
Lilah Morgan
"You're the one givin' up the love
Anytime he needs it
But you turn your back and then he's off
and runnin' with the crowd
You're the one to sacrifice
Anything to please him
Do you really think he thinks about you
when he's out"
COLD HEARTED SNAKE - Paual Abdul
Holland Manners
"Slowly crossing as red rivers runs below
Forever passing where the darkness lies unknown
Where soulwinds burns my eyes
Where shadows of lost life hides
Enter the centers of darkness
Where all evil dwells
Demons present in flames
Oath of black souls found
Sacrifices as old as the earth
We cut the living flesh
Circles of the deepest black throned
A promise of the darkest blood found
Unholy forces of evil
Unholy forces of hell"
"UNHOLY FORCES OF EVIL" by IMMORTAL
Senior Powers
"There'll be blood on his hands
There is hate in his eyes
An innocent boy
Like the prophecy told
The enforcer of the gods
Why did the gods want
The dark god to die
It was Lokis fault
That Baldur was dead
But they were blinded by their rage"
"DARK GOD" - Wizard
Angelus
"I've come to believe you've taken my torture as a comical joke
Always been the first to take a finger and poke
Time is short for you and shorter for me
I'm something as long as you hate me
I'm always on your mind
Digging at every corner with pride
I'm just your mirror image"
"MIRROR IMAGE" - Alanis
ANGEL INVESTIGATIONS:
Angel
I remember all my life
Raining down as cold as ice
A shadow of a man
A face through a window
Crying in the night
The night goes into
Morning, just another day
Happy people pass my way
Looking in their eyes
I see a memory
I never realized
you made me so happy, oh Mandy
Cordelia
"I'm sexy, I'm cute! I'm popular to boot! I'm bitchin'. Great hair!
The boys all love to stare! I'm wanted, I'm hott!
I'm everything you're not!
I'm pretty, I'm cool!
I dominate this school!
Who am I? Just guess!
Guys wanna touch my chest!
I'm rockin'. I smile!
And many think I'm vile."
BRING IT ON CHEER
Gunn
"Three little maids from school are we
Pert as a school-girl well can be
Filled to the brim with girlish glee
Three little maids from school
Everything is a source of fun
Nobody's safe, for we care for none
Life is a joke that's just begun
Three little maids from school"
THREE LITTLE MAIDS - Gilbert & Sullivan
Fred Burkle
"First in my class here at MIT
Got skills, I'm a champion at D&D
M.C. Escher, that's my favorite M.C.
Keep you're 40, I'll just have an Earl Grey tea
My rims never spin, to the contrary
You'll find that they're quite stationary
All of my action figures are cherry
Stephen Hawking's in my library"
"WHITE & NERDY" - Weird Al
Wesley
"I've got the Dungeon Master's Guide.
I've got a 12-sided die.
I've got Kitty Pryde
And Nightcrawler too
Waiting there for me.
Yes I do, I do."
"IN MY GARAGE" - Weezer
Lorne
N/A
Connor
"Yeah!
Some folks are born silver spoon in hand,
Lord, dont they help themselves, oh.
But when the taxman comes to the door,
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yes,
It aint me, it aint me, I aint no millionaires son, no.
It aint me, it aint me; I aint no fortunate one, no.
"FORTUNATE SON" - Creedence Clearwater Revival
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You are Lindsey McDonald, Junior Partner in the Special Projects Division of Wolfram & Hart. Wolfram & Hart is Los Angeles’ most prestigious evil law firm.
Add that to the fact that lawyers are pretty damn evil to begin with and you have yourself quite an evil persona.
Angel has been a thorn in your side for several years, beginning with when he threw your client out of the top story of your office building.
Plus, it was the middle of the day and your client was a vampire. So… yeah, you could say you lost that one.
Oh and Angel chopped off one of your hands. So, he’s been kind of a dick to you. So it seems only fair you should kill him. Right? Good.
Now that we’re finished with that, on to the good stuff!
Special power:
You may kill one person every night. Pretty nice for a dude with only one real hand, right? ("Vigilante Kill")
Win condition:
Eliminate all of the citizens and do-gooders from Angel Investigations.
Bonus win condition:
Oh yeah and if you happen to nail that jerk Angel, well, lets just say the Senior Partners will be MOST pleased with you.
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Lilah Morgan -
You are Lilah Morgan, Partner in the Special Projects Division of Wolfram & Hart. Wolfram & Hart is Los Angeles’ most prestigious evil law firm.
Add that to the fact that lawyers are pretty damn evil to begin with and you have yourself quite an evil persona.
While not initially as combatative with Angel as your rival Lindsey McDonald, there is definitely no love lost between
the two of you. You also have an on-again, off-again thing with Wesley Wyndam-Pryce, one of Angel's finest.
You are not one to get "Down and dirty" like Lindsay. Instead, you do your sniping from the courtroom and from Wolfram & Hart's offices.
Special power:
Due to the Wolfram & Hart standard perpetuity clause, you are immortal. So even if you are killed, you can still
get under their skin (I.e. post in the thread) and vote for whomever you choose.
Your vote still carries the same weight, dead or alive, so you are not a force to be trifled with.
Win condition:
Eliminate all of the citizens and do-gooders from Angel Investigations.
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Holland Manners -
You are Holland Manners, Vice-President of the Special Projects Division of Wolfram & Hart. Wolfram & Hart is Los Angeles’ most prestigious evil law firm.
Add that to the fact that lawyers are pretty damn evil to begin with and you have yourself quite an evil persona.
You have two lawyers who work directly for you, Lilah Morgan and Lindsey McDonald. You report directly to the Senior
Partners. That may not sound too bad, but they are demons who cannot take on a corporeal form. And if they could...
you definitely wouldn't want to see it. So in general it is best when things go exactly like they want them to.
Special power:
Due to the Wolfram & Hart standard perpetuity clause, you are immortal. So even if you are killed, you can still
get under their skin (I.e. post in the thread) and vote for whomever you choose.
Your vote still carries the same weight, dead or alive, so you are not a force to be trifled with.
Win condition:
Eliminate all of the citizens and do-gooders from Angel Investigations.
When the Earth was young and under the rule of the Old Ones, a group known as the Wolf, the Ram and the Hart emerged. They were originally weak (barely stronger than vampires, according to Illyria);
however, as the Old Ones began to fade and humans rose to power, the Wolf, the Ram, and the Hart also became stronger and more influential, exploiting the darkness
and weaknesses of human nature.
The Wolf, Ram and Hart eventually take the form of a law firm known as Wolfram and Hart, which exists not only on Earth, but in other dimensions as well
(Pylea, for example), in order to protect and promote evil. At this point, they become known as the Senior Partners and leave this dimension.
To maintain their power on Earth, they found a secret society called the Circle of the Black Thorn, attracting the most powerful and ambitious
individuals with the promise of more power. To maintain contact with their many servants, the Senior Partners employ dark entities of great power
to occupy the position of Conduit of the White Room. They also employ a large number of lawyers, whose contracts extend even into the afterlife, as
well as liaisons, who are also known as the Children of the Senior Partners; the Children are creatures with human appearance who are endowed with
heightened abilities and immortality for the duration of their association with Wolfram and Hart.
Special power:
As long as both you and the other Senior Partner are alive, the two of you can kill one person per night. (1st action: "Vigilante Kill")
You also can ascertain the true identity of one person per night. (2nd action: "Seer")
If one of you is killed, you can still perform the kill and seer actions, but only every other night.
Win condition:
Eliminate all of the citizens and do-gooders from Angel Investigations.
You are the "Dark Side" to Angel Investigations' heroic leader, the Vampire with a Soul.
On occasion, however, he has been known to lose his soul again, which is where you come in.
You are the soulless monster that everyone feared for nearly 200 years, as you and your sire Darla cut a bloody
swath across England.
Special power:
Thanks to the ministrations of Wolfram & Hart, Angel will lose control of his soul every THIRD night.
On this night, you may kill a person of your choosing. ("Vigilante Kill")
Win condition:
Eliminate all of the citizens and do-gooders from Angel Investigations. This includes Angel himself.
Originally converted into a soulless creature of evil -- the vampire -- in the 1700's, you became something different.
In 1898, while in Borsa, Romania, you tortured and killed the favorite daughter of a tribe of Kalderash gypsies.
To avenge her death, the Kalderash gypsies cursed you by restoring your human soul, thus afflicting you with a conscience
and condemning you to an eternity of remorse for the crimes you have committed.
Now known as the "Vampire with a Soul," you have set about cleaning up the filth that infests Los Angeles, once demon and vampire at a time.
WHile used to working on your own, you have several "employees" who help you, in the group known as Angel Investigations.
Special power:
On Days 1, Day 4(Day 7, Day 10, etc) you can kill a person of your choosing. (1st action: "Vigilante Kill")
On Days 2, Day 5 (Day 8, Day 11, etc) you can kill a person of your choosing AND you can guard a person from harm. (1st action: "Vigilante Kill"), (2nd action: "Guardian")
(Note: Guardian will NOT protect someone from the citywide vote)
Every third day (Day 3, Day 6, Day 9, etc) you have no special ability to use.
You also start out knowing who Cordelia Chase is: << PLAYERNAME>>
Win condition:
Eliminate the evil elements of Los Angeles: The evil lawyers who run Wolfram & Hart.
Once a classmate of Buffy's who was just another rich and spoiled teenage brat, you left the city to become an Actress...
er, so you thought. Los Angeles is a fickle master, however, and that didn't pan out. For better or worse, you ended up working for Angel.
Eventually you were gifted (or cursed...) with visions from the higher powers.
These visions, while not under your direct control, allow you to see the true nature of a person... although, they won't tell you
exactly WHO they are.
Special power:
Once per day you will RANDOMLY seer someone's alliance (good, evil, neutral).
While you cannot choose who you use the power on, you can choose whether to focus it on Los Angeles or on Sunnydale. ("Random Alliance Seer")
You also start out knowing who Angel is: << PLAYERNAME>>
Win condition:
Eliminate the evil elements of Los Angeles: The evil lawyers who run Wolfram & Hart.
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Charles Gunn-
Charles Gunn is the name, Vampire Hunting's the game.
... you're also way too cool to actually say something that lame aloud, so let's just move on, shall we?
You was born in the Badlands, a section of inner-city Los Angeles where the police would not go, and looked after you sister, Alonna, from a very young age.
Aside from a few brushes with the law, you acted as a kind of urban Robin Hood to keep the streets in the neighborhood safe. Possessing the mind of a military
strategist and the strength of a back-alley brawler, life in the ghetto hardened you to the extent that his life became less important than the cause,
resulting in the trading of your soul for a truck in a deal with a demon named Jenoff when you was only seventeen, because you believed he had no future.
Special power:
You have a limited quantity of stakes, which can be thrown into a three block (person) area. Any vampires in that area are killed. (1st action: "Vampire Stake")
When Fred Burkle is alive, you also may kill a person of your choise every night. (2nd action: "Vigilante Kill")
If she is dead, you can kill every other night.
Win condition:
Eliminate the evil elements of Los Angeles: The evil lawyers who run Wolfram & Hart.
Originally a brilliant physics graduate student, a dimensional portal resulted in her being sent to a demonic world (Pylea)
where she was a slave for 5 years, before eventually being rescued by Angel.
Now recovered, as a member of Angel Investigations, Fred is both a technological wonder, and a source of inspiration for
both Wesley and Gunn.
Special Power:
You have a special bond with Charles Gunn, who you have dated for much of the time you have been with Angel's group.
As long as you are alive, Gunn is more powerful and dedicated. ("Passive Motivation")
You also have a fledgling force field you have been tinkering with, using the mechanics of dimensional portals, to deflect a weapon. ("Force Field")
You can use this three times to protect a person. If they are attacked, the attack will be deflected onto someone else randomly in the same city. This WILL work to protect someone, even from a city vote.
Win condition:
Eliminate the evil elements of Los Angeles: The evil lawyers who run Wolfram & Hart.
Once a Watcher like Giles, you were assigned to the Slayer Faith. Her unorthodox style and mistakes in
judgement resulted in her killing an innocent. Upon finding this out, you tried to return her to the Watcher's Council,
where she likely would have been imprisoned for life for her crimes. She escaped and you were fired from the Council.
After a brief (and unsuccesful) run as a demon bounty hunter, you eventually settled in Los Angeles and began
helping Angel Investigations.
Special Power:
You are well-connected, even if you are not universally well liked.
You start out knowing Giles (in Sunnydale) << PLAYERNAME>> and Fred Burkle (in Los Angeles) << PLAYERNAME>>
Win condition:
Eliminate the evil elements of Los Angeles: The evil lawyers who run Wolfram & Hart.
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Krevlornswath "Lorne" of the Deathwok Clan - aka "The Host"
Born on Pylea, you were sent to Earth through the same dimensional portal that sucked Fred Burkle into Pylea.
Not bloodthirsty or violent like your kin, you preferred the arts, music, and that kind of thing.
You opened a karaoke bar in Los Angeles, called Caritas (meaning "Mercy" in Latin), for humans and demons alike to sing.
The Transuding Furies cast a sanctuary spell in the bar, protecting it from most demon violence.
Special Power:
You can see into a person's heart and soul... but only when they sing.
They say a person's soul is laid bare when they sing and that is something you can fully attest to.
You can have one person per night sing in your bar.
While their name will only be known to you, the nightly narration will show the song they sang, which
will give some clues as to their identity... that is, unless they're some nobody.
The MEANING of the song... well.. that'll be for you to figure out, pumpkin. (1st action:"Public Seer")
Due to the Sanctuary Spell, you will also be automatically protected from the first act of violence that is enacted upon you. (2nd action: "Sanctuary")
Win condition:
Eliminate the evil elements of Los Angeles: The evil lawyers who run Wolfram & Hart.
You are the miracle that could never be; the child created by two vampires, Darla and Angel.
In a cruel twist of fate, you are kidnapped by Daniel Holtz, a vampire hunter who is a sworn enemy of Angel.
Holtz escapes with you through a portal to Quor-Toth, a hell dimension where you grow up believing Holtz to be your true father.
Now returned back to Earth, your emotions are torn between Holtz who has taught you that vampires are evil...
and Angel... who claims he is different than the other vampires.
****You must choose who to ally with before the end of Day 2 and PM both Neville and Lol! with your decision:
Wolfram & Hart
OR
Angel Investigations
******
Special Power:
You can kill one person every other day (Day 2, Day 4, Day 6, etc): (1st action: "Vigilante Kill")
In addition, your childhood on Quor-Toth, as well as your partial Demon-physiology ,has given you the ability to distort the appearance of things. (2nd action: "Death Miller")
Specifically, you can change what identity people see belonging to a dead person. (For example, if PlayerA is an innocent and you know he is going to die from the public vote that night,
you could make him appear to be an evil player... or a good player. The choice is yours.)
You may do this for up to three victims (an attempt on someone who is NOT killed still counts against this total) - but only ONE per day.
Once you have selected (PM'd) your decision for a day, it cannot be changed.
If you are killed, all of the identities you have changed will be reverted to their true form.
Win condition:
** This will be determined by who you ally with **
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Mayor Richard Wilkins --
Originally arriving in California in the 1800's to look for
gold, you founded Sunnydale on the spot where the last Slayer
was killed. Now nearly 200 years later, you still look and
act just as spry as you did back then! Of course, that is due
to your pact with the demons of the Hellmouth under
Sunnydale.
You are now about to enact your Ascension... which means you
will become immortal and will take on demon form. The whole
Ascension process has some... well, just nifty perks!
Special Powers::
Days 1 & 2: You can find out the alignment/aura of a person
of your choosing. (Good, Evil, Neutral) ("Alignment Seer")
Days 3 & 4: You do not have any active powers tonight, BUT
you are 100% incapable of being killed. Seriously. Knife
through the heart, cut off your head. It's just not going to
kill you. Nifty, huh? ("True Invulnerability")
Day 5+: No longer invulnerable (aww, shucks!), you have
Ascended to the form of the demon Olvikan, you possess
inhuman strength, stamina, and size, and are endowed with a
thick, bone-armored hide, sharp teeth and mandibles, and a
spiked tail-club. Basically, you don't take crap from anyone.
You can kill two people of your choosing per night. ("Vigilante Kill")
Win condition:
Eliminate the Slayer Buffy & her friends ("The Scoobies"), as well as the innocents of the town.
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Spike aka William "The Bloody"
A struggling poet in 1880, you are ridiculed by everyone. Your nickname
"The bloody" is not purely a reference to your violent behavior as a vampire, but
is from how "bloody awful" your poems were.
After you were sired by Drusilla, the two of you joined with Angelus and Darla and caused havoc
across Europe.
Now relocated to Sunnydale, you are looking to add a third notch to your belt for Slayers you have... er.... slain.
Special Powers::
You can recruit 2 vampires (one on night 1, one on night 2): (1st action: "Recruit")
You may choose the person each night to try and convert.
You can also choose one person every other night (Day 2, Day 4, Day 6, etc) to kill. (2nd action: "Vigilante Kill")
Win condition:
Eliminate the Slayer Buffy & her friends ("The Scoobies"), as well as the innocents of the town.
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Drusilla
A Catholic nunnery student in 1860, she was obsessed over by Angelus. He tortured and killed Drusilla's entire family, causing you to flee to a convent in Prague.
On the day you were to take the holy vows, Angelus made you watch as he killed every person in the convent and engaged in sexual relations with Darla.
The trauma of Angelus's atrocities drove Drusilla insane, and Angelus chose to turn you into a vampire, as he considered her a masterpiece, a testament of his talent.
Gifted with visions even before joining the convent, you sometimes get glimpses into the future about people or events that are to come.
Special Powers::
You will find out a person's ability (from either city) randomly every day. ("Random Identity Seer")
Win condition:
Eliminate the Slayer Buffy & her friends ("The Scoobies"), as well as the innocents of the town.
Glory is a god from a hell dimension, over which she ruled alongside two other deities; she was the most powerful of the three.
Afraid that Glory would take full control of their dimension, the other two began a war against her; Glory lost the war and was banished into the earthly dimension,
where she was forced to share a body with a child named Ben, who was created solely to hold her.
She soon began to gain control over Ben for short periods of time, taking the form of a vain, self-centered human female who possessed superhuman strength but
lacked many of her other powers. A magical "amnesia" spell keeps humans from learning that Glory and Ben are one and the same, even if she transforms right in
front of them, although since the spell does not affect non-humans, Spike can know that Glory and Ben are the same entity.
Glory comes to Sunnydale looking for "the Key," a mystical item that will break down the walls between all dimensions,
allowing her to return to reign in her own dimension. Use of the Key will also cause the merging of all other dimensions, including the one Buffy and her
friends inhabit. Glory is not aware of what form the Key has taken. She surrounds herself with loyal minions and begins the quest to locate the Key.
Special Powers::
You can kill one person of your choosing per night. (1st action: "Vigilante Kill")
If YOU kill the Key, you will be able to kill a second person on even nights (Day 2, Day 4, Day 6, etc).
You can also stun someone every third day.. Day 3, Day 6, etc (This will prevent their FIRST action listed from happening, if they are a special.)
Win condition:
Eliminate the Slayer Buffy & her friends ("The Scoobies"), as well as the innocents of the town.
Special Win Condition::
Destroy the Key.
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Buffy Summers - The Slayer
In every generation
there is a Chosen One
She alone
will stand against the vampires
the demons
and the forces of darkness
She is the Slayer.
This is your destiny.
You have learned to accept it.
You are the Guardian not only of your city, but of the entire World.
You must destroy the evil forces that are inhabiting your city of Sunnydale before they open the Hellmouth and release all number of horrible demons upon the world.
Special Powers::
You can kill one person per night (1st action: "Vigilante Kill")
You can also save ONE person from a city mob, being quick on your feet. Well, quick enough to shove them to safety, at least. (2nd action: "Vote Save") You can ONLY do this is Xander is alive.
You also can come back to life once (Crazy, huh?!) You will come back into play after the next narration, but it wouldn't be announced publically until that night's
narration, giving you time to plan your strategy. (I.e. You die on night 2,you is dead during day 3 and then are alive after that). You can ONLY do this if Willow is still alive.
You also know Willow << PLAYERNAME>> and Xander << PLAYERNAME>> at the start of the game.
Win condition:
Destroy the evil forces in Sunnydale and prevent the Hellmouth from being opened.
Often referred to as the "Heart" of the Scoobies, you are not a fighter, not a magician.
You keep the group together. No matter what they go through, you are there to bring up the back and make
sure everyone makes it. Despite your lack of any fighting competency at all, you still give it your all in
every battle, often coming back bloodied and bruised for trying.
Special power:
Your power is passive, as you are the Heart of the group.
If you die, your friends will all become weaker.
You also know Willow << PLAYERNAME>> and Buffy << PLAYERNAME>> at the start of the game.
Win condition:
Destroy the evil forces in Sunnydale and prevent the Hellmouth from being opened.
You are Willow, the good-natured (usually), smart witch who is best friends with the Slayer, Buffy.
As one of the Scoobies, you are side-by-side helping Buffy fight demons. Over the years you have learned more and more magic,
and now you are quite an accomplished witch.
Oh, you're also like... a lesbian. Yeah, I know. Not *MY* cup of tea, but some of you people like it
Yeah. You know who I mean.
Special power:
You must be alive for Buffy to revive; if she is killed, she will be brought back to life once. (1st action: Passive: "Revive Slayer")
You can stun a person of your choosing every other day (Day 2, Day 4, Day 6, etc). If the person is a special, it will interrupt their FIRST action that night.
(2nd action: "Stun")
Also, once you have met your life partner Tara, the two of you can aura-seer two people per night. (3rd action: "Aura Seer")
*YOU MUST PM LOL! AND NEVILLE TO PROVE THE TWO OF YOU KNOW EACH OTHER BEFORE YOU CAN USE THIS POWER*
Aura seering means you can tell what TYPE of person someone is. (Good, evil, or neutral).
If Xander has died, the two of you can only aura seer one person per night.
If you previously met Tara, but one of you has since died, you can only aura seer one person per night.
You also know who Buffy << PLAYERNAME>>and Xander << PLAYERNAME>>are.
Win condition:
Destroy the evil forces in Sunnydale and prevent the Hellmouth from being opened.
A quiet girl, you met Willow in college and fell in love.
The two of you practiced magic together, although Willow is a much more adept witch than you are.
Still, you love her a lot (gayyyy) and all that jazz.
Despite never quite fitting in with the Scoobies, you are still always willing to help out whenever they - especially Willow - need help.
Special power:
Once you have met your life partner Willow, the two of you can aura-seer two people per night.
*YOU MUST PM LOL! AND NEVILLE TO PROVE THE TWO OF YOU KNOW EACH OTHER BEFORE YOU CAN USE THIS POWER*
Aura seering means you can tell what TYPE of person someone is. (Good, evil, or neutral).
If Xander has died, the two of you can only aura seer one person per night.
If you previously met Willow, but one of you has since died, you can only aura seer one person per night.
Win condition:
Destroy the evil forces in Sunnydale and prevent the Hellmouth from being opened.
Anyanka was a vengeance demon for over 1200 years.
After her center of a power (a necklace) was destroyed by Giles, she was trapped in the human body she had been inhabiting.
Now blessed -- or doomed -- to live as a mortal again, she becomes infatuated with Anya, and thus hangs around the Scoobies a lot.
Not your typical ex-demon, Anya finds herself in love with capitalism and money. She is also incredibly tactless and blunt.
So have fun with that.
Special power:
As a former Vengeance Demon, you can sometimes summon some of your previous abilities.
You may kill someone of your choosing every other night (Day 2, Day 4, Day 6, etc). (1st action: "Vigilante Kill")
Win condition:
Destroy the evil forces in Sunnydale and prevent the Hellmouth from being opened.
You are the Watcher for Buffy Summers.
Your job is to train, support, and prepare the Slayer for her duties as defender of the world and vanquisher of demons.
Also, you are quite British. That actually helps you out here... Stuff upper lip and all that.
Although quite reserved and balanced now, in his youth, Giles dabbed in the dark arts and went by the nickname "Ripper."
He learned a lot from this experience... mostly, don't f*** around with demonology.
Special power:
You can ascertain the identity of a person once per round (1st action: "Identity Seer")
If Xander is dead, you can only do this every other round.
If Buffy and Willow BOTH die before round 7, you can try ONCE to summon a new slayer. (2nd action: "Call Slayer")
If it is successful, the new Slayer will have all the powers and abilities than Buffy had.
Win condition:
Destroy the evil forces in Sunnydale and prevent the Hellmouth from being opened.
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Dawn Summers - aka "The Key"
If she is killed, most people will be relieved.
Fuck you, Michelle Trachtenberg. Seriously, fuck you and your annoying character.
Yeah, so you’re a special and you know who Buffy is, but that is your only active power.
Special Power:
You know your sister Buffy: Projeck
Also, you are really annoying.
Win condition:
Destroy the evil forces in Sunnydale and prevent the Hellmouth from being opened.
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
From your wiki entry:
"Ben is the alter-ego of Glory and appears in season five, played by Charlie Weber. Ben meets and befriends Buffy at the Sunnydale hospital
during her mother's illness, and unsuccessfully attempts to date her. It is eventually revealed that Ben was created as a
mortal prison for the hell goddess Glorificus. Glory learned to free herself from her prison for periods of time, and a
spell prevents any human who sees or learns about the metamorphosis from remembering it. As Glory spends more time in
control of their shared existence, Ben's life starts to fall apart; he is dismissed from his job at Sunnydale Hospital
because Glory asserts her control for increasingly prolonged periods of time."
Basically, you spend your time trying to stop Glory from doing evil and destroying the very fabric of our universe.
Special Power:
Every round you can choose a person. That person and the person above/below it in the playerlist will be safe from any attacks from Glorificus. ("God Shield")
Win condition:
Destroy the evil forces in Sunnydale and prevent the Hellmouth from being opened.
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So, like, basically 3 good specials for a long time, we just didn't want to waste kills on them. It looks like we could have killed them pretty easily.
Fred guarded zot night 1 I think, and was supposed to guard Angel the night he died, but he came onto our boards at 8:45 CST, 9:45 EST saying, "who should I guard", hahaha. Darkblade and Bunny were more or less never guarded, I didn't quite understand why they survived so long.
I was worried there that good was going to be able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, but it worked out, if a night or so late. Its pretty mean to make fun of them for killing Abraham, because its logical from the framework of the show, but it doesn't fit into a phalla. Myself and other members had a bit of frustration with these perceived canon gaffs, like Glory not dieing when Ben did, Buffy not killing the night shes ressed, etc. but I can absolutely understand the changes made in order to jam it into the phalla style of gameplay. However, both vig killing and voteing out Abraham? Shameful.
Neville what were Kate Lockley's abilities, thats the only role pm I didn't see, and did Spik's vampires have any abilities, or were they just innocents to bring into the evil network? If Spike had converted a good special, would they have retained their abilities, that would have been bitching.
I figured we didn't really need ACTUAL guarding because we had the perception of guarding..
IE, the bads didn't want to waste their kill on someone who was likely to be guarded.. We had a network with guardians in it and no other public figures, why wouldn't we be guarded.
Thus..
we were guarded by LOGIC!
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This was fun and I'm glad I participated. Yay forces of good!
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edited January 2008
The show/s looks ridiculously complex. I guess I can thank this game for making me finally watch it.
Sorry I wasn't active more. I hate being lost in themes.
Any idea who's next on the GM mystery list, Neville?
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The show/s looks ridiculously complex. I guess I can thank this game for making me finally watch it.
Sorry I wasn't active more. I hate being lost in themes.
Any idea who's next on the GM mystery list, Neville?
No clue.
The ever-elusive Bogestrom is the one to ask that question.
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dang late with my vote
fuuuuuuck
Stop clumping the two vote counts together, they are two entirely seperate votes
they are as diffrent as the votes from days 3 and 4 are. They have nothing to do with eachother, stop it.
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LA:
real_pochacco: 7
Hylianbunny: 1
Sunnydale:
Locus: 4
Quoth: 1
Late with the kill again too Buffy dearest?
The people of Los Angeles had had enough of the evil doings of Wolfram and Hart.
No, even beyond the evil that is done just by being a lawyer. These lawyers were the darkest, foulest
people ever to walk the earth. And that is saying something, since many of them are not human and fly or travel
in some other manner than walking. They gathered at the entryway and stormed past the guards, who -- though perfectly
willing to kill innocents -- were unsure they could fight the entire city at once. Willow, Oz, Gunn, Kate, and Buffy all
were along with the citizens to do what they could to help.
The elevator doors opened and Angelus grinned, ready for action (and dinner). Oz began transforming into a werewolf and
seemed to be a bit out of control but Willow managed to keep him in check with a quick containment spell.
Angelus then dodges past Buffy and snaps her neck, much like he did that of
Jenny Calendar a few years back. "Ding dong the bitch is dead," he sneered.
Buffy, infuriated by this, swings her sword, but misses the lithe demon and manages to kill Picardathon instead.
Gunn and Kate are trying to corral Wolfram & Hart employees who try to flee.
Someone grabs Gunn's shoulder to ask him a question, but Gunn is on a hair trigger and stabs behind him without even looking,
managing to kill Redimpulse.
The citizens from Los Angeles begin destroying everything they can get their hands on... Desks, tables, legal briefs for evil
clients like the Dark Emperor of the T'ash Dimension, Ashley Olsen, and the Master.
(Don't look so surprised; Mary Kate has always been the good one) The citizens from Sunnydale decided Locus was the Wolfram and Hart employee
who most deserved to die. In actuality, he was just a mail clerk and had just put in his two weeks notice. He had been hired on as a personal
assistant to Matt Damon. Mmm. But no matter, he's dead now. (Locus, that is. Not Mr. Damon)
The destroyed remnants of the law firm were then set on fire, so that it could do no more harm.
An unholy shriek was heard by many who were there and ran outside to watch the place burn.
Perhaps it was just the wind, although there was nary a gust that day.
Or perhaps it was the fury of the Senior Partners, who would have to start over again in their quest to destroy mankind.
Angelus, either caught by the flames or turned to ash when whatever magical apparatus that allowed him to survive without his counterpart of Angel,
was never seen from again.
Los Angeles was now free... free from evil. Well, at least supernatural evil. Have you ever met those chicks from Hollywood?
Those bitches are ruuuuuude.
Casualties:
Druhim (Willow) - Killed on Day 8 by the Senior Partners
Locus (innocent) - Killed on Day 8 by the Sunnydale City Vote
real_pochacco (Senior Partner) - Connection to the world destroyed on Day 8 by the Los Angeles City Vote
The Geebs That Is a Mod (Angelus) - Killed on Day 8 by the destruction of Wolfram & Hart
Redimpulse (innocent) - Killed on Day 8 by Gunn
Picardathon (innocent) - Killed on Day 8 by Buffy
..right
The favorite mechanic of Wiggin & mine was very rarely successful.
Every night Lorne could seer someone. The results were shown to everyone.
Every single special had their own song; only two fucking people got picked.
So yeah, lots of work for nothing, I suppose.
Here are the songs for Sunnydale:
Villains::
The Mayor:
"I never liked this apple much
It always seemed too big to touch
I can't remember how I found
My way before she came around
I tell everyone
I smile just because
I've got a city love
I found it in Lydia
And I can't remember
life before her name"
JOHN MAYER -- "CITY LOVE"
Spike:
"Is there any one at all
Anyone you didn`t call
Is there any one you didn`t deny
Is there any one you missed
Anyone you didn`t kiss
Is there any law you didn`t defy
I`m so angry
I`m so angry
Always chewing nails, it never, ever fails
I`m so angry
I`m so angry
Better hide my knife, better run for your life"
"I'M SO ANGRY" - ALICE COOPER
Evil Vampires (sired by Spike):
"Stranded
In a life in which your struggle for acceptance
Is a never-ending chore,
Upbraided
For your actions past and present and rewarded for the ideas
Of the future's bright open door.
"
HENCHMAN - BAD RELIGION
Drusilla
"I remember when, I remember, I remember when I lost my mind
There was something so pleasant about that place.
Even your emotions have an echo
In so much space
And when you're out there
Without care,
Yeah, I was out of touch
But it wasn't because I didn't know enough
I just knew too much"
"CRAZY" - GNARLS BARKLEY
Glory
"We can go all night long
Doing thing you thought you would never do
I won’t tell anyone
What we do it’s just for me and you
So come and play my game
I wanna make you holler and hear you
scream my name
I’ll give you rules to follow
So you can play my game
Imagine us together me driving you insane
You will give in to me
Don’t be afraid to play my game"
HOLLER - SPICE GIRLS
SCOOBIES:
Buffy
"We're at the mercy of so few
With evil hearts determined to
Reduce this planet into hell
Then find a buyer and make quick sale
To end upon a happy note
Like trying to make concrete float
Is very simple knowing that
God in your heart lives"
"SAVE THE WORLD" - GEORGE HARRISON
Xander
"Ive been pushed Ive been pulled
Ive been put out and trod on
Just by taking my chances I finally
Caught on
When I see in your eyes all the love
Shining through
Im so glad I held out for somebody
Like you"
"Tall, Dark Handsome Stranger" by Heart.
Willow
If your ass is a Chinese restaurant I'll have the poo-poo platter
My friend Jerry Vandergrift kissed me in Home Ec. class
Later in the afternoon some jarheads in the locker room kicked my ass
I said guys I'm like you I like Monster Trucks too
Wanna see how many push-ups I can do?
"I WISH I WAS QUEER SO I COULD GET CHICKS" - Bloodhound Gang
Tara
I'm in serious shit, I feel totally lost
If I'm asking for help it's only because
Being with you has opened my eyes
Could I ever believe such a perfect surprise?
I keep asking myself, wondering how
I keep closing my eyes but I can't block you out
Wanna fly to a place where it's just you and me
Nobody else so we can be free
Nobody else so we can be free
"ALL THE THINGS SHE SAID" - T.A.T.U.
Anya
"You'll change your mind,
Come Monday,
And turn your back on me,
You'll take your steps away with hesitance,
You'll take your steps away from me,
I'm making my peace,
I'm making it with distance,
Maybe that's a big mistake,
You know I"m thinking of you,
I miss you"
CAUTIONERS - JIMMY EAT WORLD
Giles
Breakin rocks in the hot sun
I fought the law and the law won (twice)
I needed money cause I had none
I fought the law and the law won (twice)
I left my baby and it feels so bad
Guess my race is run
Shes the best girl that I ever had
I fought the law and the law won
I fought the law and the
"I FOUGHT THE LAW" - THE CLASH
Dawn
"I never want another love
You're the only one I'm thinking of
And I want you easily
I know that you'll see
I never felt this way before
I want this feeling forever more
The way you do, the things you do
You won me over, oooohhhhh"
"TAKE THE KEY" - ALL SAINTS
Ben
"We can go all night long
Doing thing you thought you would never do
I won’t tell anyone
What we do it’s just for me and you
So come and play my game
I wanna make you holler and hear you
scream my name
I’ll give you rules to follow
So you can play my game
Imagine us together me driving you insane
You will give in to me
Don’t be afraid to play my game"
HOLLER - SPICE GIRLS
Oz
"He goes out in the evenin when the bats re on the wing
An hes killed some young maiden before the birds sing"
"THE WEREWOLF SONG" by CAT POWER
Faith:
"And I set up and tore down this stage with my own two hands
We've travel this land packed tight in mini vans
And all this for the fans, girls, money, and fame
I played their game
And as they scream my name
I will show no shame
I live and die for this
And if I come off soft
Then chew on this
Are you scared?"
KID ROCK - AMERICAN BAD ASS
For LA:
Lindsey McDonald
"There's a little girl down south
and her daddy's got a ranch 'bout as big as my town
And one day I swear I'm gonna go down there
and get around
From the letter that I got last Fall
says Juno you're the one I love most of all"
"SPIRIT BOY" - KANE
Lilah Morgan
"You're the one givin' up the love
Anytime he needs it
But you turn your back and then he's off
and runnin' with the crowd
You're the one to sacrifice
Anything to please him
Do you really think he thinks about you
when he's out"
COLD HEARTED SNAKE - Paual Abdul
Holland Manners
"Slowly crossing as red rivers runs below
Forever passing where the darkness lies unknown
Where soulwinds burns my eyes
Where shadows of lost life hides
Enter the centers of darkness
Where all evil dwells
Demons present in flames
Oath of black souls found
Sacrifices as old as the earth
We cut the living flesh
Circles of the deepest black throned
A promise of the darkest blood found
Unholy forces of evil
Unholy forces of hell"
"UNHOLY FORCES OF EVIL" by IMMORTAL
Senior Powers
"There'll be blood on his hands
There is hate in his eyes
An innocent boy
Like the prophecy told
The enforcer of the gods
Why did the gods want
The dark god to die
It was Lokis fault
That Baldur was dead
But they were blinded by their rage"
"DARK GOD" - Wizard
Angelus
"I've come to believe you've taken my torture as a comical joke
Always been the first to take a finger and poke
Time is short for you and shorter for me
I'm something as long as you hate me
I'm always on your mind
Digging at every corner with pride
I'm just your mirror image"
"MIRROR IMAGE" - Alanis
ANGEL INVESTIGATIONS:
Angel
I remember all my life
Raining down as cold as ice
A shadow of a man
A face through a window
Crying in the night
The night goes into
Morning, just another day
Happy people pass my way
Looking in their eyes
I see a memory
I never realized
you made me so happy, oh Mandy
Cordelia
"I'm sexy, I'm cute! I'm popular to boot! I'm bitchin'. Great hair!
The boys all love to stare! I'm wanted, I'm hott!
I'm everything you're not!
I'm pretty, I'm cool!
I dominate this school!
Who am I? Just guess!
Guys wanna touch my chest!
I'm rockin'. I smile!
And many think I'm vile."
BRING IT ON CHEER
Gunn
"Three little maids from school are we
Pert as a school-girl well can be
Filled to the brim with girlish glee
Three little maids from school
Everything is a source of fun
Nobody's safe, for we care for none
Life is a joke that's just begun
Three little maids from school"
THREE LITTLE MAIDS - Gilbert & Sullivan
Fred Burkle
"First in my class here at MIT
Got skills, I'm a champion at D&D
M.C. Escher, that's my favorite M.C.
Keep you're 40, I'll just have an Earl Grey tea
My rims never spin, to the contrary
You'll find that they're quite stationary
All of my action figures are cherry
Stephen Hawking's in my library"
"WHITE & NERDY" - Weird Al
Wesley
"I've got the Dungeon Master's Guide.
I've got a 12-sided die.
I've got Kitty Pryde
And Nightcrawler too
Waiting there for me.
Yes I do, I do."
"IN MY GARAGE" - Weezer
Lorne
N/A
Connor
"Yeah!
Some folks are born silver spoon in hand,
Lord, dont they help themselves, oh.
But when the taxman comes to the door,
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yes,
It aint me, it aint me, I aint no millionaires son, no.
It aint me, it aint me; I aint no fortunate one, no.
"FORTUNATE SON" - Creedence Clearwater Revival
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I was worried there that good was going to be able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, but it worked out, if a night or so late. Its pretty mean to make fun of them for killing Abraham, because its logical from the framework of the show, but it doesn't fit into a phalla. Myself and other members had a bit of frustration with these perceived canon gaffs, like Glory not dieing when Ben did, Buffy not killing the night shes ressed, etc. but I can absolutely understand the changes made in order to jam it into the phalla style of gameplay. However, both vig killing and voteing out Abraham? Shameful.
Neville what were Kate Lockley's abilities, thats the only role pm I didn't see, and did Spik's vampires have any abilities, or were they just innocents to bring into the evil network? If Spike had converted a good special, would they have retained their abilities, that would have been bitching.
This is the goodguy network http://watchersareus.proboards98.com/ but an admin will have to unlock it.
Good game all.
IE, the bads didn't want to waste their kill on someone who was likely to be guarded.. We had a network with guardians in it and no other public figures, why wouldn't we be guarded.
Thus..
we were guarded by LOGIC!
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Sorry I wasn't active more. I hate being lost in themes.
Any idea who's next on the GM mystery list, Neville?
No clue.
The ever-elusive Bogestrom is the one to ask that question.