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  • ShineyBlueShoesShineyBlueShoes Registered User
    edited February 2008
    Honestly I wouldn't check a computer again but I've had a really bad experience with doing so. Flying from Califonia to Michigan in the middle of the summer my CPU literally melted to the heatsink.

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  • BigRedBigRed Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    For flying with a computer, your best bet is to Ship it to yourself via UPS/fedex.
    If you call ahead to your hotel they will receive a package for you and hold it until you check in for up to like a week or so.

    In the bottom floor of the WSCTC there is a fedex shipping center where you can ship it back to yourself at the conclusion of PAX.

    DO NOT CHECK YOUR COMPUTER AT THE AIRPORT! Those fuckers will destroy the thing.

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  • ShineyBlueShoesShineyBlueShoes Registered User
    edited February 2008
    I'd still take the hard drive out and make sure that things secure as can be since I haven't had good experiences with that either but maybe I'm just terribly unlucky. Would be just my luck.

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  • Pat McRotchPat McRotch Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    RCars2 wrote: »
    xGunCrazyx wrote: »
    what would you guys suggest using to move around my huge antec 900 case and 22" lcd?

    Little late on the response here but anyways, you could do what i did in a modified way. Get yourself a nice large suitcase and some towels/padding for the insides and you can load everything in one nice package, with wheels, and a handle.

    I did this last year with my case and my 22" LCD. Granted i had a mATX case so i was able to cram it into a carry-on size suitcase but if ya went with checked luggage size you should be able to get everything in with a little extra room to cram in "shock proofing" material. Plus you dont have to carry all your accesories in a separate bag, you can pack them all right inside.

    I remember seeing you with that last year. I was wondering if that was considered carry-on. It seemed kinda large.

    I posed the flying-with-a-PC question here and got some good advice.
    http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=44541

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  • xGunCrazyxxGunCrazyx Registered User
    edited February 2008
    RCars2 wrote: »
    xGunCrazyx wrote: »
    what would you guys suggest using to move around my huge antec 900 case and 22" lcd?

    Little late on the response here but anyways, you could do what i did in a modified way. Get yourself a nice large suitcase and some towels/padding for the insides and you can load everything in one nice package, with wheels, and a handle.

    I did this last year with my case and my 22" LCD. Granted i had a mATX case so i was able to cram it into a carry-on size suitcase but if ya went with checked luggage size you should be able to get everything in with a little extra room to cram in "shock proofing" material. Plus you dont have to carry all your accesories in a separate bag, you can pack them all right inside.

    I remember seeing you with that last year. I was wondering if that was considered carry-on. It seemed kinda large.

    I posed the flying-with-a-PC question here and got some good advice.
    http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=44541

    wasn't me i'm afraid
    this is going to be my first PAX :P

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  • whypick1whypick1 PAX [E] Info Booth Manager ~2' from an LCDRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Could've been me. I showed up with my mATX case and 22" LCD in a piece of luggage. I drove up, but having it all in there made it much easier to lug around. Wheels are nice, especially ones that don't squeal loud enough to cause hearing loss.

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  • Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Moderator mod
    edited February 2008
    Somebody bring some WD-40 this year, just in case there's another squeaky cart.

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  • proXimityproXimity Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    whypick1 wrote: »
    Could've been me. I showed up with my mATX case and 22" LCD in a piece of luggage. I drove up, but having it all in there made it much easier to lug around. Wheels are nice, especially ones that don't squeal loud enough to cause hearing loss.

    Oh, it was a very specific case, on wheels, most definitely NOT in a suitcase...

    WD-40 would have been most welcome in that situation

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  • Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Moderator mod
    edited February 2008
    Yeah, I was standing 3-5 people behind that guy, and I have excellent hearing. Suffice it to say, my ears were hurting by the time I got my computer set up in BYOC.

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  • David CoffmanDavid Coffman Registered User, Penny Arcade Staff, PAX Staff regular
    edited February 2008
    Early estimates are for around 325 byoc systems, and the byoc price for all three days is expected to remain at $25.

    This is where I add the normal disclaimer that details like this can change very, very easily this far in advance, and all the other stuff you guys already know.

    Also, one more time to affirm, if you're bringing a laptop, it's really, really smart to invest in a laptop lock. We do what we can to keep security super-tight and we've never had any significant problem of this nature, but it's the difference between "You should be fine" and "You will be fine". Isn't that worth $12?

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  • bowlofpetuniasbowlofpetunias Registered User
    edited February 2008
    Seriously, has it been a problem before? I thought it was just common sense: laptop+public place with hundreds of people = laptop lock.

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  • BigRedBigRed Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Seriously, has it been a problem before? I thought it was just common sense: laptop+public place with hundreds of people = laptop lock.

    Not been a problem.
    Last year one got misplaced but was found later in the room.

    We are just going to hammer the idea into people though that if they bring a laptop, to bring a laptop lock.

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  • bowlofpetuniasbowlofpetunias Registered User
    edited February 2008
    Hah, fair enough.

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  • yoshamanoyoshamano The fuck is this. The fuck was that. Marshall, Soviet MichiganRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    BigRed wrote: »
    For flying with a computer, your best bet is to Ship it to yourself via UPS/fedex.
    If you call ahead to your hotel they will receive a package for you and hold it until you check in for up to like a week or so.

    In the bottom floor of the WSCTC there is a fedex shipping center where you can ship it back to yourself at the conclusion of PAX.

    DO NOT CHECK YOUR COMPUTER AT THE AIRPORT! Those fuckers will destroy the thing.

    I have a friend that works for FedEx so I was able to abuse his employee discount to ship my tower to the Sheraton. A few things to keep in mind. Take the hard drives out and bring them with you in carry-on luggage/in the car/on the train. If you have a screw-less card holding system in your case find a way to reinforce it or remove the cards so they don't pop out and go flying around the inside of your case.

    Sheraton specific info: They will hold your package for (if I remember right) up to a week before your check-in date. They will charge you $25 for this service. You request your package from the concierge desk in the front lobby. The business center on the 2nd floor of the new tower has a shipping center in it. I'm not sure if you can purchase shipping from there, but they have everything to re-box your computer and both UPS and FedEx pickup packages there.

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  • proXimityproXimity Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Another word on the screwless cases- I shipped my PC, and though the cards were fine, my DVD drives slid all around and i found them shoved about an inch and a half back into my case. They still worked, but it was a bit scary seeing. So, screw down the drives too.

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  • Qs23Qs23 Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Is it just me being crazy, but I'm thinking about building my BYOC PC actually at the show. I mean, I know all the parts are going to be shipped in good containers and I'll be able to pack them up in the boxes and ship them all home after I'm done.

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  • BigRedBigRed Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Qs23 wrote: »
    Is it just me being crazy, but I'm thinking about building my BYOC PC actually at the show. I mean, I know all the parts are going to be shipped in good containers and I'll be able to pack them up in the boxes and ship them all home after I'm done.

    You really want to spend the first day of pax installing/updating windows? :P

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  • Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Moderator mod
    edited February 2008
    He could build it on Thursday in the hotel.

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  • ViscountalphaViscountalpha Registered User
    edited February 2008
    He could build it on Thursday in the hotel.

    What if something goes wrong? :P

    Seriously though. Shuttle makes some tiny cases now that actually (finally) can support decent graphics cards.

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  • ShineyBlueShoesShineyBlueShoes Registered User
    edited February 2008
    Meh if you're going SFF size get something non-Shuttle so you're not stuck with proprietary junk and it will actually support mATX mobos and decent a decent PSU.

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  • BigRedBigRed Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Meh if you're going SFF size get something non-Shuttle so you're not stuck with proprietary junk and it will actually support mATX mobos and decent a decent PSU.

    I am inclined to agree.

    I personally would never go SFF though, I need more than 2 hard drives :P

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  • ShineyBlueShoesShineyBlueShoes Registered User
    edited February 2008
    Well the actual mATX SFF's usually support at least two. Mine supports three and I have two in it, it's just the wiring situation gets more complicated as you add more drives and cards in. Also you're usually stuck with the stock coolers for the most part which is rough but usally enough since you're rarely OC'ing these things.

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  • ViscountalphaViscountalpha Registered User
    edited February 2008
    Meh if you're going SFF size get something non-Shuttle so you're not stuck with proprietary junk and it will actually support mATX mobos and decent a decent PSU.


    I've looked at mATX stuff and I can't seem to find anything comparable. The ONLY case I've seen that even comes close to what I need has a huge ass ribbon cable for the graphics card and was really expensive. I would agree propriatarty sucks but I may just get a shuttle case in early august with an 8800gt and call it good.

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  • ShineyBlueShoesShineyBlueShoes Registered User
    edited February 2008
    And pay $1000 more. But ribbon cable to the graphics card? Huh?

    Biggest problem right now IMO isn't the cases themselves but the mATX mobos being compotent but not quite comparing to their full size counterparts for features/performance.

    Then again if I had the extra money to pay for a shiney all spiffy when I get it system I probably would.

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  • BigRedBigRed Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Protip:
    a 700w power supply isn't sufficient for a Q6600 @ 3ghz, 4gb of ram, 8800GT 512, watercooling, and 15 hard drives.

    :(

    Also... uh... don't bring something like that to BYOC :P

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  • Ty1012Ty1012 Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    BigRed wrote: »
    Protip:
    a 700w power supply isn't sufficient for a Q6600 @ 3ghz, 4gb of ram, 8800GT 512, watercooling, and 15 hard drives.

    :(

    Also... uh... don't bring something like that to BYOC :P

    did somebody actually try that?
    *imagines 3 helicopters airdropping it onto the roof of the WSCTC*

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  • RelativioxRelativiox Halo Nerd Forerunner shield world OnyxRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Ty1012 wrote: »
    BigRed wrote: »
    Protip:
    a 700w power supply isn't sufficient for a Q6600 @ 3ghz, 4gb of ram, 8800GT 512, watercooling, and 15 hard drives.

    :(

    Also... uh... don't bring something like that to BYOC :P

    did somebody actually try that?
    *imagines 3 helicopters airdropping it onto the roof of the WSCTC*

    He did.

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  • ShineyBlueShoesShineyBlueShoes Registered User
    edited February 2008
    Think I missed something there.

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  • RelativioxRelativiox Halo Nerd Forerunner shield world OnyxRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    He = BigRed

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  • ShineyBlueShoesShineyBlueShoes Registered User
    edited February 2008
    Ok that makes a lot more sense. :)

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  • BigRedBigRed Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Ty1012 wrote: »
    BigRed wrote: »
    Protip:
    a 700w power supply isn't sufficient for a Q6600 @ 3ghz, 4gb of ram, 8800GT 512, watercooling, and 15 hard drives.

    :(

    Also... uh... don't bring something like that to BYOC :P

    did somebody actually try that?
    *imagines 3 helicopters airdropping it onto the roof of the WSCTC*

    I tried adding hard drive #15 to my computer today. Power supply safety overload thing would trip when the hard drives tried to spinup on boot.

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  • Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Moderator mod
    edited February 2008
    Time for a new fileserver?

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  • BigRedBigRed Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Time for a new fileserver?

    Thats what I'm upgrading. Putting all 1TB drives in it, and moving the 750GBs to my main rig.

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  • ViscountalphaViscountalpha Registered User
    edited February 2008
    And pay $1000 more. But ribbon cable to the graphics card? Huh?

    Biggest problem right now IMO isn't the cases themselves but the mATX mobos being compotent but not quite comparing to their full size counterparts for features/performance.

    Then again if I had the extra money to pay for a shiney all spiffy when I get it system I probably would.

    http://www.cluboverclocker.com/reviews/cases/GTR_Tech/GT3/index.asp

    Yep. I've looked at the prices and 400$ for a barebones shuttle looks like how I wanted to roll initially from the beginning. I like my antec lanboy but its not a tiny portable shuttle.

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  • skarsolskarsol Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    BigRed wrote: »
    Time for a new fileserver?

    Thats what I'm upgrading. Putting all 1TB drives in it, and moving the 750GBs to my main rig.

    So exactly how much porn *do* you have?

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  • BigRedBigRed Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    skarsol wrote: »
    BigRed wrote: »
    Time for a new fileserver?

    Thats what I'm upgrading. Putting all 1TB drives in it, and moving the 750GBs to my main rig.

    So exactly how much porn *do* you have?

    The internet.
















    jk :P actually none of it is porn, its mostly movies/tv shows

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  • skarsolskarsol Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    And here I thought my 2tb of movies/TV shows was excessive. Kings to you!

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  • BigRedBigRed Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Hard drive power problem solved.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817814013

    skarsol: you going to bring your computer & storages to BYOC? ;-)

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  • skarsolskarsol Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Well, we are planning to do BYOC, but since it would probably cost around a hojillion dollars to ship the anvil from Houston, I'm thinking no. :P

    If you have a burning craving for 80's cartoons though, I might take requests. :)

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  • BigRedBigRed Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    skarsol wrote: »
    Well, we are planning to do BYOC, but since it would probably cost around a hojillion dollars to ship the anvil from Houston, I'm thinking no. :P

    Doo eet...

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