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I am considering selling my 360 and picking up a PS3, and I wanted to get some info to make sure its the right decision for me.
First off, the big thing is the games, it seems most of the games I want/have are on both. But where can I find a list of current and future exclusives for each console?
Second, I remember reading that ps3 versions of games are usually not as good as the 360 version. Is this still true or was that mostly for the early ps3 games.. and if it is still true is it a huge difference or just small stuff?
My main reasons for wanting to switch are:
So I would gain all that without really losing anything except 360 exclusives.. of course I would also gain the ps3 exclusives. I know live is supposed to be the better online experience but I'm not really into paying for it since I don't play online a lot and it sure as hell didnt seem like I was getting my money's worth with all the lag I encountered trying to play TF2. Please let me know if im missing some benefits the 360 has over the ps3
First off, the big thing is the games, it seems most of the games I want/have are on both. But where can I find a list of current and future exclusives for each console?
Second, I remember reading that ps3 versions of games are usually not as good as the 360 version. Is this still true or was that mostly for the early ps3 games.. and if it is still true is it a huge difference or just small stuff?
My main reasons for wanting to switch are:
- don't have to worry about RROD ++
- ps3 is quieter (I think?) +
- blu-ray +++
- free online play +
- ps3 is quieter (I think?) +
- blu-ray +++
- free online play +
So I would gain all that without really losing anything except 360 exclusives.. of course I would also gain the ps3 exclusives. I know live is supposed to be the better online experience but I'm not really into paying for it since I don't play online a lot and it sure as hell didnt seem like I was getting my money's worth with all the lag I encountered trying to play TF2. Please let me know if im missing some benefits the 360 has over the ps3
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It's also been out longer. And has more marketshare. I wonder if the two correlate.
Also owning both systems doesn't qualify you to say which has better exclusives as your taste is relative and whilst I couldn't care less about Halo, I'm glad we have Metal Gear and I'm sure in some cases its vice versa.
The PS3 is a solid system and the ports are rapidly improving, especially where they lead with the PS3 for development and not the other way round. You get a lot for your money built into the system and theres nothing at all you need to buy on top to get the full use out of it apart from completely optional stuff like extra controllers or a Blu-Ray remote control.
The PSN network is very impressive for free. I know, sure you don't get to pay £40 for an integrated friends list but still, its very good and very STABLE. I had a 360 and trying to connect to a Gears of War game was a fun little game in itself. With PS3 I've never had any issues apart from when I had conflicting IP addresses but thats a config thing not a PS3 thing.
The PS3 library may seem lacking but the 360 has a year on it and the Wii...well the Wii gets 15 shovelware and 5 PS2 ports and a sequel for every original game on it. And 3 bowling games per quarter. And a boxing game. Weekly.
It does however have some really good games in there, games that arguably work better on the PS3, incredibly so when they are exclusive. You can get very good games on there at the moment and even more games coming out in the next month or 2.
Get a PS3.
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Allow me to preface this by saying that I am in the camp of selling my 360 to get a PS3. I was had 3 RROD's and not only were Microsoft's tech support unhelpful, they were just plain rude to me about every problem I had, so I switched. Also, let me say this is not a flame at all, but my god man, you obviously have never played Rainbow Six Vegas 2 on PS3.
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The problem with this reasoning is that it doesn't matter why the 360 has more and better games. Especially since 3rd party devs have no particular reason to make PS3 exclusives going forward. It clearly isn't the successor to the PS2 in terms of market share and is expensive to develop for.
That doesn't mean you shouldn't buy one OP. Especially if you can get a good price for your 360. However, I sort of suspect that the market for used 360s is a soft for the very reason you want to sell yours. Does the 3yr RROD warranty transfer?
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Also Red rings are being fixed and every time I have had a problem they were fast and helpful. But overall I would say don't sell it, but if you want a Ps3 buy one and have both consoles.
Who said anything about the Wii? Also, I'd rather the PS3 get 15 shovelware and 5 PS2 ports for every original/good game, at least then it would have a decent amount of good games.
Anyway, unless there is a compelling reason to go PS3, that doesn't heavily weigh on Blu-Ray capability, I would stay put for a while. Prices may go down, or specs may go up. As far as exclusives, it's all to personal taste. (exclusives listed here), but looking at the exclusives I would buy (GT5, FFXIII, etc) most are coming out later this year, or early next (optimistic), so I'd rather wait till those few games launch, and see what the PS3 SKUs look like then
The PS3 is an excellent system. The 360 is an excellent system. You've experienced the 360 and you seem to want something different. I say go with the PS3.
With that said, I'm not sure I would sell a 360 to justify the purchase of a PS3. If you need that extra cash to afford anything, I'd say wait until you're more financially secure. I personally want all 3 systems so I'd never sell any of em.
I will however list all the games I can think of for each system, but I may leave out/forget a few on either side. I'm not sure if I should list mediocre exclusives like PDZ and Genji 2 so I'll just leave them off. I also didn't bother listing games that've been vaguely announced but not shown, like Cry On (360) or Shin Megami Tensei 4 (PS3).
PS3
Gran Turismo 5: Prologue
Heavenly Sword
Motorstorm
Ninja Gaiden: Sigma
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
Resistance: Fall of Man
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Warhawk
Coming out this year
Disgaea 3
Haze
InFamous
Killzone 2
LittleBigPlanet
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Motorstorm 2
Resistance 2
SOCOM: Confrontation
Tekken 6
Valkryia Chronicles: Journeys To The West
Wipeout HD
TBD
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
God of War III
Gran Turismo 5
Heavy Rain
White Knight Chronicles
Yakuza 3
360
Bioshock
Blue Dragon
Chromehounds
Crackdown
Dead Rising
Forza Motorsport 2
Gears of War
Halo 3
Lost Odyssey
Mass Effect
Project Gotham Racing 3
Project Gotham Racing 4
Saints Row
Universe at War: Earth Assault
Viva Pinata
Coming out this year
Banjo Kazooie 3
Fable 2
Gears of War 2
Halo Wars
Left 4 Dead
Ninja Gaiden 2
Operation Darkness
Splinter Cell: Conviction
Too Human
TBD
Alan Wake
Infinite Undiscovery
Tales of Vesperia
Selling a 360 to get a PS Three...
Is a good idea.
Blu-Ray is neat.
Version differences are starting to tilt in the Triple's direction.
Good future roster.
Free online.
More reliable hardware.
Yes, and its quieter too. Better regular DVD player too. Same old shitty controller though, at least the DS3 is better than the SIXAXIS.
If you don't mind waiting you could get in on the MGS4 bundle in June. Or if backwards compatability isn't an issue for you you can jump in right now with a 40 GB.
There are great exclusives out right now as well as some amazing ones coming this year. I love that the online is free. Plus, Home looks to be amazing as well as free.
to answer the question about PS3 ports:
-the PS3 ports were aweful for the first half a year or so. Splinter Cell was dog ass and some others got the shaft too. However, most, if not all ports are exactly the same or a *smidgen* better on ps3. The only differences so far (when a PS3 port is better than the 360 one) are tiny. Load times being a tiny bit faster or some colors being a tad better. That kind of stuff.
for exclusives this year you've got Resistance 2, Killzone 2, MotorStorm 2, Little Big Planet (good god this looks awesome), Metal Gear Solid 4 and I'm sure some other damn good ones I'm forgetting.
You also got some great stuff for 360 this year too. Fable 2, Gears 2, Ninja Gaiden 2 and others I'm not thnking of at the moment.
The thought that the PS3 has no good games still seems to linger in people's minds and it just isn't true anymore. Yeah, it *was* true for a while, but the exclusives plus the multiplatform releases have given the system some killer games. The thing that I see the most though is people who think multiplatform games are also 360 exclusive. I know not everyone thinks this, but when I talk to some people about it they mention things like "oh yeah, 360 has Assassins Creed, Oblivion, Rock Band...." whereas, well, PS3 has em too and they're every bit just as good.
Seems like you have already made up your mind though and your just looking to have it validated, I would at least hold out for the MGS bundle, if only so you can get a dual shock pad with it (the standard Six Axis is rubbish).
I have, however, heard very little bad about the newer 360s. There are horror stories (on these forums) about fellows having their first 360 break down, getting it replaced with a refurbished one, having it RROD, and repeating the loop ad nauseum. It wouldn't surprise me if this is, however, a case of a guy trading in his first-gen 360 and having it replaced with a refurbished or otherwise first-gen system, again. Apparently the new CPU runs cooler, sucks less power, and is more reliable. This isn't a statement of fact, just the impression I get from these forums.
For me, going with the PS3 was an easy choice. I like the dualshock controller, and I love all of Sony's exclusives. God of War 3 will be awesome, the Ratchet & Clank series is pure gaming bliss, Sly Cooper is always a pleasure, and let us not forget Shin Megami Tensei and FFXIII and LittleBigPlanet (and whatever Team Ico's cooking up). Those must-have games that aren't exclusives (AC and GTA)? Well, they're coming to both consoles. The only property 360 has that makes me a little jealous is Bioshock, and according to some well-founded rumors, the next one'll be multi-platform.
Also, it seems Playstation games have a rather different vibe than Microsoft's. Sony seems willing to take more chances with unusual or lighthearted content. The 360's cornered the market on testosterone and gore (Gears, Halo), while the PS3 appears to just be getting started on the usual Fun Factor of the games.
That is the PS3's single negative point in my book - 'just getting started'.
Summary: Get a PS3.
You should change your name to PS3Warrior, I always see you defending the console.
Out now/soon exclusivish Games:
UT3 with Keybaord & mouse + mod support
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (Works with the g25!) - ive played this far too much
Tekken 5/6
Wipeout HD
A bit later on:
FFXIII
LittleBigPlanet
And the other good games that will be/are out on both:
GTA 4
COD4
Assassins Creed
battlefield bad company
resident evil 5
street fighter 4/soul calibur 4
There are other games that are good Uncharted/Warhawk/Heavenly sword, and although some would consider them A list and swear by them, im not 100% convinced by them, the above games have though. I've missed out a few future exclusives like Killzone 2/God of War 3/Haze ..as im not a big believer in those games either but you might be, so i thought i would mention them. I've probably forgot an important one but moving on!
Free online, works very well for most games - ingame XMB on the way
Quiet as a mouse <- such bliss
blu ray blah blah (actually it is a good player, and the audio support is really impressive too)
The PS3 still has a ways to go in online to catch up to 360
To get to the PS3:
Yes, it is quieter, much quieter than a 360. In fact, on the hardware side of things, I'd say the PS3 is a better value than the 360. Everything is included from the outset, so you don't run into those pesky "ZOMG, now I've gotta buy a wifi adapter??" moments.
Since you don't play online much, I doubt you'll care about the differences between XBL and PSN.
I'm not sure if the 360 does this (because of one of the previously mentioned "ZOMG, now I've gotta buy a wifi adapter??" moments), but the PS3 is constantly getting firmware updates via the PSN. So things that people complain about (such as no in-game XMB) can potentially be added/fixed as the system ages. Not a selling point, per se, but still something to keep in mind, IMO.
As far as exclusives go, it's really a matter of taste. I don't have many 360 games myself as I'm still trying to find titles that are fun (no Bioshock as I have it on the PC), so it's hard for me to compare the two systems directly.
For the PS3, I find that Warhawk is almost good enough to be a system seller by itself. It's the game I play the most, and it can be quite addictive. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune is a fun game. Some flaws (mostly the last quarter of the game), but definitely fun. Resistance: Fall of Man is a solid shooter. If you're into F1 racing, F1 Championship Edition is just about perfect.
So, again, as a PS3 owner, I definitely think you should get the system. But, I don't necessarily think you should sacrifice one to get the other, unless you're 100% certain.
And you're always defending the 360. I wonder if we both own the respective consoles.
It's also not quite defending it when I'm listing its positives to the OP so he can decide whether to buy one or not. Nice try at being a bitch though.
It is pretty great right now, and keeps getting better! And BR is awesome...the PS3 is worth it based on that alone (if you like HD movies).
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I'm planning on going out to get the Orange Box today, and I heard a patch came out in March for it for PS3 - how do I get the patch? Do I just stick the disc in with my modem cable in the machine, or do I have to log into something, or... what?
(Not trying to hijack the thread, it said PS3 questions and I got one, so...) Thanks for any help!
if you are connected to the PSN, then as soon as you put the disc in [and launch], it will check to see if theres an update and if there is it will ask you to update...actually i thought it was the same for the system updates. if i remember correctly, it is for me but then im always connected to PSN.
Games just automatically update themselves first time you run them after an update is available., far as I can tell. AC, CoD4, Resistance and Folklore all did it as soon as I ran the game. Hell, so did Flow and a couple other of the psn downloads, now that I think about it.
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Motorstorm requires you to boot the game up, then go into the Online mode to download its patches. But I think that's the only one to do that, since all the other games I've played, with available patches, have worked like you mentioned.
Again, this is only true up to a point, the PS3 is just getting started but it's not exactly headed for orbit in any case.
The PS3 will be more like the Gamecube than the PS2 from last gen. You can expect that most exclusive games will be first party or have started development before the PS3 even launched. Software sales in Japan are horrid last as were exclusive sales of PS3 exclusives in the West so it's never going to get the insanely huge library the that PS2 had.
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IMO, it's hard to make these claims seeing as neither the MGS4 bundle nor the Final Fantasy XIII games are out yet. I've never really followed the numbers (because, honestly, who gives a shit? play what you like, but I digress...), but it seems to me that both franchises could be considered console sellers, if any games could.
The thing is Halo 3 is about as huge as video games get and sold a gazillion copies when it was first released and yet the 360 console itself only saw a slight increase in sales. I expect MGS4 & FF13 will be the same way: good sales of the game itself, but only a small bump in console sales since most people who really want those games have already purchased the system.
Personally, I think it's foolish to sell either console in exchange for the other since you'll lose a lot of money in the exchange. Both systems share a lot of titles and both systems have some nice exclusives. I personally think the 360 has the better set of exclusives (XBLA is amazing), but that's just me.
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Online play, if you have any passing interest at all just pay the $4.17 a month Live costs, because the online service on PSN sucks shit. Yeah it's free, that's about the only plus it has going for it. Maybe Home will help with lobbies (like Warhawk is supposed to), but who knows. All I see in my PS3 now is a few exclusives worth playing, and a whole lot of potential. That's the problem, who knows when that potential will fill out? Sony does keep adding features, and I think in a year the PS3 will be a must-own system. Now, weigh what games you want, and decide. I'd say do not trade the 360, it's a great system besides the shitty hardware. Also, the 360 controller is worlds better than that piece of shit PS controller design which has sucked, unchanged, for over 10 years.
Get a PS3, but not at the expense of losing the 360. Wait longer, and save up the cash, it's worth owning both. As someone who owns literally every system this gen (PS3, PSP, Wii, DS, 360, Zune (games will come soon, won't they, please?)), I have played my 360 far more than anything else, and I think at this point I'm ready to declare it one of my favorite systems ever, and it may end up dethroning the SNES in my mind.
Just a couple reasons why no game or pair of games can "rescue" the PS3, i.e. turn it into the dominant console this gen.
The price is still very high and system selling games are relative to price. For some MGS4 or FF13 are $400 games but not for enough people to make a dent in yearly sales.
The cost of developing a HD game is very high, for the PS3 with it's tricky processor it is higher yet. This puts the bar even higher for devs to make games exclusive than it was last gen. So follow the logic, the Gamecube didn't get many 3rd party exclusives, the PS3 is selling almost exactly that same rate, PS3 games are more expensive to produce than Gamecube games...
But all of that applies to the 360 as well. So if the OP can somehow get a good price for his 360 and wants a BR player and thinks that of the exclusives out now or already announced he'd rather play the PS3 ones then by all means he should switch. Just don't count on the PS3 being the dominant console this gen, is all.
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The ease of setting up a PS3 network connection is also terrific. I start the setup on the PS3 and push a button on my WiFi router. Everything auto-completes. I just wish Buffalo wasn't in a patent suit, so they could keep selling their awesome stuff in the U.S. (On 24-7 since the middle of last year, this thing doesn't even twitch when my modem or PC crashes, just reconnects as soon as it can. Impressive as heck.).
There are very few flaws with the sharing (on the PS3 side) that I have seen.
You can't copy anything from the Folder you are viewing something from. If I want to copy a pic from my PC to my PS3 to use as a background, I have to close the viewed picture before I can copy ANY pic in that folder. When you lump a thousand plus pictures into a folder, it can be a major pain to find the one you want.
Some media formats aren't recognized. .Mkv and .Ogg in particular. Though that may be WMP not natively supporting them, even though it will play them (after an unrecognized file type warning) on my PC.
For games, 360 wins hands down. Especially with Live. It's very much worth the cost for the better, seamless online experience. You can even access all the friends features from within the games, something the PS3 does not YET have. And, as said before, the 360 currently has a better library of games. Even games on both systems seem better on the 360 for me because they seem to have a better resolution on the 360, but I could be talking out my ass there.
Now, having said that, the PS3, in my opinion does everything else better. Better media center, quieter, blu-ray (I have the HD-DVD addon too, but stopped watching it because it was hard to hear the movie over my jet engine 360 going). Plus they seem to have more meaty features in the PS3 updates so far than the 360 does. Adding things like additional sound output formats and so on instead of just only rearranging the layout and adding convenince features like friends of friends.
I do like both, but currently for different reasons. I wouldn't consider selling one to get the other if I could at all avoid it.
Of course, if you look at it from the point of view that you're selling a slightly older system for a future, price-reduced new system, and funding an alternate console in the meantime, it's not too bad. What I mean is that say you sell your 360 for $200, and use that to buy a PS3. Then in a year, maybe two, you buy the latest, recently price-dropped 360 for $200. You could say that you're paying full price for a PS3 to hold you over, and using the funds from your current 360 to pay for a price-reduced future 360.
That's only if you regret the sale and rebuy one in the future, though.
I own a PS3 primarily as a Blu-Ray player, owning a single game for now. I plan to buy more once they come down in price (since Uncharted and Heavenly Sword are a little short on play-time for $60), but I'm hopeful for the future once I heard about Disgaea 3. Disgaea 3 won't exactly flex the PS3's graphical prowess, but it's an "odd" title from a small company, which makes me feel that other "under the radar" games will come out in the future.
For me, the 360 may have won out if I was interested only in games. I'm running Macs at home so my use for the consoles as a media hub is limited on both (less so on the PS3, but only slightly). But I wanted wireless, blu-ray, and an occasional fun game (that isn't in first person). So the PS3 was perfect. Updates come out all the time and add some pretty nice features, too.
The online functionality is more limited, but free, the online store has fewer demos and fewer/different games than XBLA. The bluetooth functionality is pretty awesome, and makes everything wireless. You can plug in any ol' USB keyboard/mouse, or use bluetooth.
Let me tell you about Demon's Souls....
And seriously people, you're paying £40 a year for a friends list and chat functionality.
I'm assuming the first comment was more of a rhetorical question... but PSN games pale in comparison to what is up on Live Arcade. The only reason you'd think otherwise is because maybe you only have a PS3 and feel the need to feel better about it.
The second comment is a bit off the mark. Way off actually. If you knew anything about how the TrueSkill system worked (I acknowledge that not many people do) and how it's factored into your 'zone' etc and taken into account when you are matchmaking into a game... you would have a different view. Unless you don't care about online play or community. The feedback system factors in too... for example if you are 'family' zone you are less likely to get matched up with players who have been "avoided" for trash-talking.
It's not just a friends list and chat, to say so is as ignorant as the people deriding the PS3 in the same way.