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Donovan PuppyfuckerA dagger in the dark isworth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered Userregular
edited June 2008
WOW there is some fucked up shit going on in this thread. Brainleech, I'm sorry for your loss. I don't know what I'd do without my mum.
And to the people with parents who behave like shitheads, you've done well not to use it as an excuse to also become a shithead(Omegatofuninja-san, I would fucking explode if my Dad said that to me).
Tweaked_Bat_, from what you said your Dad said, it sounds like he's admitting fault, so now is the time to guilt him into giving you his car, and making him buy himself a new one. I know that's cold, but it's better than him having to sell it and give half of what he gets for it to your mum. Because the only car Subaru make that is better than the Liberty B4 is the Liberty 3.0R B-spec. And those things cost many wheelbarrows full of cash.
And to the people with parents who behave like shitheads, you've done well not to use it as an excuse to also become a shithead
Alright then.
Tweaked_Bat_, from what you said your Dad said, it sounds like he's admitting fault, so now is the time to guilt him into giving you his car, and making him buy himself a new one. I know that's cold, but it's better than him having to sell it and give half of what he gets for it to your mum. Because the only car Subaru make that is better than the Liberty B4 is the Liberty 3.0R B-spec. And those things cost many wheelbarrows full of cash.
WOW there is some fucked up shit going on in this thread. Brainleech, I'm sorry for your loss. I don't know what I'd do without my mum.
And to the people with parents who behave like shitheads, you've done well not to use it as an excuse to also become a shithead(Omegatofuninja-san, I would fucking explode if my Dad said that to me).
Tweaked_Bat_, from what you said your Dad said, it sounds like he's admitting fault, so now is the time to guilt him into giving you his car, and making him buy himself a new one. I know that's cold, but it's better than him having to sell it and give half of what he gets for it to your mum. Because the only car Subaru make that is better than the Liberty B4 is the Liberty 3.0R B-spec. And those things cost many wheelbarrows full of cash.
There's a reason you're jailed.
Divorce sucks, happened to me when I was about nine. Only problem was myself and my two sisters ended up living with our mom, which, we thought was cool at the time. Then we grew up and realized exactly how crazy she is and just how balanced my father was.
Sucks being the oldest child and only son. My mother pushed so much goddamn shit upon me that I'm surprised I'm not in jail. I remember talking to one of my teachers in high school, and he told me straight up, "If I had to deal with everything you've dealt with over the years, there's no doubt that I'd be fucking up."
I spent years hoping my parents would divorce but now I think they will just continue to live in disharmony and phone me up to tell me all about it when it's going really badly.
i just found my mother after 7 years of not seeing her on facebook through her fiancees name
and she is acting super weird
i think he impregnated her brain
i just found my mother after 7 years of not seeing her on facebook through her fiancees name
and she is acting super weird
i think he impregnated her brain
My aunt went through that kind of thing with the rest of our family when she met her current husband.
I was kind of young, so I really have no idea what it was all about. He seems like an alright guy now.
I love my family and am really close to them all, and I also love both my parents equally.
My mother loves it when I visit because my parents stop arguing and have a good time together. For this reason I am the official 'mediator' in their marriage. When my sister visits, she causes them to argue more than ever before. She's my opposite.
I love my family and am really close to them all, and I also love both my parents equally.
My mother loves it when I visit because my parents stop arguing and have a good time together. For this reason I am the official 'mediator' in their marriage. When my sister visits, she causes them to argue more than ever before. She's my opposite.
So when you and your sister visit your parents at the same time you cancel each other out?
I love my family and am really close to them all, and I also love both my parents equally.
My mother loves it when I visit because my parents stop arguing and have a good time together. For this reason I am the official 'mediator' in their marriage. When my sister visits, she causes them to argue more than ever before. She's my opposite.
So when you and your sister visit your parents at the same time you cancel each other out?
Pretty much! It usually tips slightly in my favour, though, as usually my mother pays too much attention to what my sister says and gets really wound up, but when I'm there I can usually take my mother to one side and calm her down and we'll end up laughing at my sister, which is the only real way to deal with my sister's bullshit. I don't even know if my sister does it deliberately any more or what, but when she's at my parents almost everything she says is provocative or designed to antagonise. She's perfectly lovely when you get her on her own.
I love my family and am really close to them all, and I also love both my parents equally.
My mother loves it when I visit because my parents stop arguing and have a good time together. For this reason I am the official 'mediator' in their marriage. When my sister visits, she causes them to argue more than ever before. She's my opposite.
So when you and your sister visit your parents at the same time you cancel each other out?
Pretty much! It usually tips slightly in my favour, though, as usually my mother pays too much attention to what my sister says and gets really wound up, but when I'm there I can usually take my mother to one side and calm her down and we'll end up laughing at my sister, which is the only real way to deal with my sister's bullshit. I don't even know if my sister does it deliberately any more or what, but when she's at my parents almost everything she says is provocative or designed to antagonise. She's perfectly lovely when you get her on her own.
Sounds like you've got things under control. My sisters are the same, one pisses off my Mum, the other pisses off my Dad, and they both irritate each other. So when we're all visiting at the same time, I just try and keep them occupied so they don't irritate anybody. My parents both adore me (they seem to think I'm 'lovely')and I get on great with my sisters, so it's all just a balancing act.
Sorry for upsetting anyone, but I was just suggesting a way to get a sweet car for nothing. I fully admitted it would be a cold thing to do.
My mother is a very sweet woman who babies her offspring far too much and trys to micro-manage every aspect of their lives, but in a way that is very hard to bring up as a negative without looking like an ungrateful asshole.
My father is an intelligent man who is also kind of a self-centered dick a lot of the time. He still has moments of greatness.
There were a few scares in my teen years that they were gonna split up but now it seems pretty clear that they are in it for the long-haul.
my dad is a bipolar defense contractor/ski patroller who helped build the submarine that found the titanic and, in college, was hired to build machines that he later found out were to be used for spying on the Soviets
yea but see if she is moving out then there is no need for his stuff to go anywhere
if he was the one moving out then okay maybe yea cos hes gonna pack it all up anyway
she is just making more trouble for no reason
it would be like having a huge argument over the last piece of cake and finally giving in and letting the other person have it but giving it a huge lick before handing it over
poisoned by poison ivy? here, have some poison ivy that has been diluted 10,000 times so that only the energy of the poison energy remains in the remedy
my dad's entire family are either conservative or libertarian, and the two libertarians (my father and my uncle, a self-made billionaire) are the two brightest people I've ever met which is a little confusing to me
they have basically the perfect approach to it which is "we know it only works in a vacuum but we are so goddamn smart that we know what parts of it are conceivably functional so we're just going to operate on those premises"
I feel kind of slack because I've got a pretty damn great family and I know that I don't appreciate them as much as I should.
I'm not really a family person.
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FandyienBut Otto, what about us? Registered Userregular
edited June 2008
My parents are both super-nice upper middle class liberals who have worked very, very hard to get where they are today.
Which makes me feel bad since I'm a overpriliveged little pothead prick, but whatever. We're emotionally at odds and they're anxious about my smoking but we're sort of getting over that and beginning to reform a relationship that isn't purely fiscal, which is nice.
Yeah hating my parents for being homophobic and racist sure makes me naïve, thanks defender
Actually, it does, and here's why:
1) You can't separate the belief, which is reasonable to hate, from the person.
2) You haven't seen what they've seen, understood how they came to be that way, and thus you hate what you don't understand. Interestingly enough, lack of understanding is often the root of bigotries like the very ones you claim that they have.
3) You have lived long enough to think you know things (and are arrogant, from all indications), but not long enough to have a real understanding of the world. I don't care what grades you get in school, you haven't been on your own, paying your own bills, making your own way in the world, and you didn't even grow up poor or anything, so you don't know shit about life. Listen to the song.
my divorced parents both come from absurd amounts of money. my father is old money, my mother is new money.
my father, who is a defense contractor and sells arms to pearl harbor, lives in a small 2bed/2bath in a hispanic-catholic neighborhood and expresses disappointment in me for not going to the cheapest college. every year, he could basically make $47,000 off me, but he just gives it back to me every year.
my mother is a homeopath who makes probably $28,000 a year of her own accord, and has bought or rented five houses in the past six years, is buying a new car because she doesn't like the color of the old one and gets out of any undesirable scenario by throwing money at it.
My uncle Frank really did not like black people. He was a very good person, and he took care of everyone around him. But he just didn't like black people. Part of it was that one time he went one stop too far on the train and had to get off in North Philadelphia and was nearly beaten to death by black people for being white. While, rationally, this isn't the fault of all black people, it's really not hard to see how a person who was nearly killed by black racism would develop counter-racism, just like it's not hard to imagine how a black guy who was around when King was assassinated would have a distrust of whites.
It's important to separate these things out.
But you're a kid, TFS, so of course you see the world in terms of your personal beliefs and simply wholesale hate people for thinking things that, to you, are wrong and evil.
bigotry of that kind is a fundamental character flaw and is really inexcusable, hth
OK, sure. So bigotry of their kind is totally not OK, because it contradicts your beliefs. But unilaterally condemning an entire human being because he's racist is OK. Yeah, your perspective is clear, balanced, and unbiased. You have the wisdom of the ages behind your thoughts. Of course.
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And to the people with parents who behave like shitheads, you've done well not to use it as an excuse to also become a shithead(Omegatofuninja-san, I would fucking explode if my Dad said that to me).
Tweaked_Bat_, from what you said your Dad said, it sounds like he's admitting fault, so now is the time to guilt him into giving you his car, and making him buy himself a new one. I know that's cold, but it's better than him having to sell it and give half of what he gets for it to your mum. Because the only car Subaru make that is better than the Liberty B4 is the Liberty 3.0R B-spec. And those things cost many wheelbarrows full of cash.
Alright then.
Wait, what the fuck were you just saying?
There's a reason you're jailed.
Divorce sucks, happened to me when I was about nine. Only problem was myself and my two sisters ended up living with our mom, which, we thought was cool at the time. Then we grew up and realized exactly how crazy she is and just how balanced my father was.
Sucks being the oldest child and only son. My mother pushed so much goddamn shit upon me that I'm surprised I'm not in jail. I remember talking to one of my teachers in high school, and he told me straight up, "If I had to deal with everything you've dealt with over the years, there's no doubt that I'd be fucking up."
and she is acting super weird
i think he impregnated her brain
My aunt went through that kind of thing with the rest of our family when she met her current husband.
I was kind of young, so I really have no idea what it was all about. He seems like an alright guy now.
My mother loves it when I visit because my parents stop arguing and have a good time together. For this reason I am the official 'mediator' in their marriage. When my sister visits, she causes them to argue more than ever before. She's my opposite.
So when you and your sister visit your parents at the same time you cancel each other out?
Cause the women always get the bedroom, and she wasn't going to let the hubby sleep next to her.
Sounds like you've got things under control. My sisters are the same, one pisses off my Mum, the other pisses off my Dad, and they both irritate each other. So when we're all visiting at the same time, I just try and keep them occupied so they don't irritate anybody. My parents both adore me (they seem to think I'm 'lovely')and I get on great with my sisters, so it's all just a balancing act.
Sorry for upsetting anyone, but I was just suggesting a way to get a sweet car for nothing. I fully admitted it would be a cold thing to do.
Uh, not in my house. I paid for that thing, I'm sleeping there.
My father is an intelligent man who is also kind of a self-centered dick a lot of the time. He still has moments of greatness.
There were a few scares in my teen years that they were gonna split up but now it seems pretty clear that they are in it for the long-haul.
wheeeeee
if he was the one moving out then okay maybe yea cos hes gonna pack it all up anyway
she is just making more trouble for no reason
it would be like having a huge argument over the last piece of cake and finally giving in and letting the other person have it but giving it a huge lick before handing it over
awwwww
I guess SE ++ has mommy and daddy issues
No, because you are too young to know anything yet, but you are old enough to think you know a lot of stuff. This is perfectly normal.
I'm Eighteen
they have basically the perfect approach to it which is "we know it only works in a vacuum but we are so goddamn smart that we know what parts of it are conceivably functional so we're just going to operate on those premises"
I'm not really a family person.
Which makes me feel bad since I'm a overpriliveged little pothead prick, but whatever. We're emotionally at odds and they're anxious about my smoking but we're sort of getting over that and beginning to reform a relationship that isn't purely fiscal, which is nice.
Actually, it does, and here's why:
1) You can't separate the belief, which is reasonable to hate, from the person.
2) You haven't seen what they've seen, understood how they came to be that way, and thus you hate what you don't understand. Interestingly enough, lack of understanding is often the root of bigotries like the very ones you claim that they have.
3) You have lived long enough to think you know things (and are arrogant, from all indications), but not long enough to have a real understanding of the world. I don't care what grades you get in school, you haven't been on your own, paying your own bills, making your own way in the world, and you didn't even grow up poor or anything, so you don't know shit about life. Listen to the song.
my father, who is a defense contractor and sells arms to pearl harbor, lives in a small 2bed/2bath in a hispanic-catholic neighborhood and expresses disappointment in me for not going to the cheapest college. every year, he could basically make $47,000 off me, but he just gives it back to me every year.
my mother is a homeopath who makes probably $28,000 a year of her own accord, and has bought or rented five houses in the past six years, is buying a new car because she doesn't like the color of the old one and gets out of any undesirable scenario by throwing money at it.
my mother is disgusting.
It's important to separate these things out.
But you're a kid, TFS, so of course you see the world in terms of your personal beliefs and simply wholesale hate people for thinking things that, to you, are wrong and evil.
OK, sure. So bigotry of their kind is totally not OK, because it contradicts your beliefs. But unilaterally condemning an entire human being because he's racist is OK. Yeah, your perspective is clear, balanced, and unbiased. You have the wisdom of the ages behind your thoughts. Of course.