Astonishing X-Men

augustaugust where you come from is goneRegistered User regular
edited October 2006 in Graphic Violence
Okay, couldn't find a thread for it, so sorry if there is one, but yeah, spoilers for #16:

[spoiler:18cca16e71]This issue was good. First of all, he plays up the whole "Maybe the Hellfire Club is all in Emma's head" angle, with the payoff of Emma staring in the mirror, which turns on you and into one of the most badass Kitty Pryde action scenes EVAR. THEN he turns it around AGAIN with the "White Queen" reval, and the "YEAHBUHWHAT?" is probably the best reaction by a chracter to a big dramatic reveal in a comic like ever. Then everything else in the book was fun and good. And the inking and coloring is no longer ruining Cassady's art.[/spoiler:18cca16e71]

So anyway I though it was awesome how about you guys.

Pac Man's character is difficult to explain even to the Japanese -- he is an innocent character. He hasn't been educated to discern between good and evil. He acts more like a small child than a grown-up person. Think of him as a child learning in the course of his daily activities. If someone tells him guns are evil, he would be the type to rush out and eat guns. But he would most probably eat any gun, even the pistols of policemen who need them.
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  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited August 2006
    Cassady is awesome

    Joss Whedon is awesome

    they combine to form

    Astonishing X-men!

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  • The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited August 2006
    Mai-Kero wrote:
    Cassady is awesome

    Joss Whedon is awesome

    they combine to form

    Astonishing X-men!

    "Astonishing X-Men:
    We used to just be 'Pretty Good X-Men'."

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  • JordynJordyn Registered User regular
    edited August 2006
    I want to kiss Kitty.

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  • SASA Registered User
    edited August 2006
    hot

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  • ParisInFlamesParisInFlames Registered User regular
    edited August 2006
    Doesn't Cassady ink his own work? I've never seen an inker cited in either AsXM or Planetary.

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  • A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited August 2006
    Jordyn wrote:
    I want to kiss Kitty.

    Anyone want to make a joke here?

    Anyone?

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  • JordynJordyn Registered User regular
    edited August 2006
    Something about phasing through something something maybe a "pussy" something or other too

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited August 2006
    Doesn't Cassady ink his own work? I've never seen an inker cited in either AsXM or Planetary.

    Hey, I dunno. Maybe it was just the colors that made his stuff look like shit in the last few issues.

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    Pac Man's character is difficult to explain even to the Japanese -- he is an innocent character. He hasn't been educated to discern between good and evil. He acts more like a small child than a grown-up person. Think of him as a child learning in the course of his daily activities. If someone tells him guns are evil, he would be the type to rush out and eat guns. But he would most probably eat any gun, even the pistols of policemen who need them.
  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator mod
    edited August 2006
    Kitty is my favorite.

    t ord[spoiler:6a586f6d67]haha oops[/spoiler:6a586f6d67]

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  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited August 2006
    I want a comic book that features only Ord and Lockheed. It can be 24 pages of Ord getting blasted and the hilarious hijinks involved with that.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited August 2006
    Geebs wrote:
    Kitty is my favorite.

    t ord[spoiler:ef4270a5ef]haha oops[/spoiler:ef4270a5ef]

    Yeah! Someone's got egg on thier face!

    And like little eyelash thinges.

    And that fuckep up nosegaurd.

    The guy is just ugly is what I'm saying.

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    Pac Man's character is difficult to explain even to the Japanese -- he is an innocent character. He hasn't been educated to discern between good and evil. He acts more like a small child than a grown-up person. Think of him as a child learning in the course of his daily activities. If someone tells him guns are evil, he would be the type to rush out and eat guns. But he would most probably eat any gun, even the pistols of policemen who need them.
  • Devlin_DragonusDevlin_Dragonus Gorgeous Dallas, TXRegistered User regular
    edited August 2006
    Geebs wrote:
    Kitty is my favorite.

    t ord[spoiler:1c02fbbb55]haha oops[/spoiler:1c02fbbb55]

    Oh man, I read the last page and thought the exact same thing.

    And laughed my ass off for like the next 30 mins.

    In retro spect you could say [spoiler:1c02fbbb55] Ord is the real reason behind the "death" of breakworld [/spoiler:1c02fbbb55]

    That what happens when you can see you own death, the universe has a fucked up sense of humor.

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  • Devlin_DragonusDevlin_Dragonus Gorgeous Dallas, TXRegistered User regular
    edited August 2006
    woops double post?


    So how about them Astonishing X-Men?

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  • werehippywerehippy Registered User regular
    edited August 2006
    woops double post?


    So how about them Astonishing X-Men?

    I personally find their exploits quite astonishing.

    Also, Hisako seems interesting, and I'm curious where they're going with her. She's gone toe to toe with a couple heavy hitters, she's gotten some decent development, and if you believe BKV checked with anyone before the first Runaways arc of this run [spoiler:1bd27039df]she's going to end up leading at least a, if not the main, X-team.[/spoiler:1bd27039df]

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  • HtownHtown Registered User regular
    edited August 2006
    Man that was awesome.

    [spoiler:54d49d81bf]...Yeabuhwhat?[/spoiler:54d49d81bf]

    lollerskates

    And, yeah, it must suck to be Ord right about now.

    And dangit, Whedon is lobbying HARD for Kitty Pryde to be my favorite X-Person of all time. It's like he's in love with her and he's explaining why.

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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User
    edited August 2006
    Personally, the last page kinda bothered me.

    [spoiler:69ddb421db]I was expecting it to be an Omega-level mutant. How the hell does Colossus destroy the Breakworld? Does he punch a nuclear reactor that powers their whole world or something?[/spoiler:69ddb421db]

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  • ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA
    edited August 2006
    marvel- nice work misspelling colossus' name on the first page

    other than that, pretty good issue

    i hope there's a good explanation for all this

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator mod
    edited August 2006
    Personally, the last page kinda bothered me.

    [spoiler:84cb128ce4]I was expecting it to be an Omega-level mutant. How the hell does Colossus destroy the Breakworld? Does he punch a nuclear reactor that powers their whole world or something?[/spoiler:84cb128ce4]

    Yeah, I dunno. I assume we'll find out though.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited August 2006
    Htown wrote:
    Man that was awesome.

    [spoiler:557c2440ce]...Yeabuhwhat?[/spoiler:557c2440ce]

    lollerskates

    And, yeah, it must suck to be Ord right about now.

    And dangit, Whedon is lobbying HARD for Kitty Pryde to be my favorite X-Person of all time. It's like he's in love with her and he's explaining why.

    Wheadon has an unreasoning affection for wee waifs that kick butt. But I'm down with that.

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    Pac Man's character is difficult to explain even to the Japanese -- he is an innocent character. He hasn't been educated to discern between good and evil. He acts more like a small child than a grown-up person. Think of him as a child learning in the course of his daily activities. If someone tells him guns are evil, he would be the type to rush out and eat guns. But he would most probably eat any gun, even the pistols of policemen who need them.
  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited August 2006
    Geebs wrote:
    Personally, the last page kinda bothered me.

    [spoiler:79ce0337a2]I was expecting it to be an Omega-level mutant. How the hell does Colossus destroy the Breakworld? Does he punch a nuclear reactor that powers their whole world or something?[/spoiler:79ce0337a2]

    Yeah, I dunno. I assume we'll find out though.

    [spoiler:79ce0337a2]I thought it was gonna be Kitty, myself. Like she was going to phase the center of their planet or some shit.[/spoiler:79ce0337a2]

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    Pac Man's character is difficult to explain even to the Japanese -- he is an innocent character. He hasn't been educated to discern between good and evil. He acts more like a small child than a grown-up person. Think of him as a child learning in the course of his daily activities. If someone tells him guns are evil, he would be the type to rush out and eat guns. But he would most probably eat any gun, even the pistols of policemen who need them.
  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator mod
    edited August 2006
    Kitty's been awesome for a while, this isn't just Whedon's doing.

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  • MelMel Registered User
    edited August 2006
    Great issue. I'm hoping...

    [spoiler:e7ccaffaf5]Ord manages to bungle the obligatory raid on the mansion and mistakenly wipes out the Hellfire guys in the process.

    Then again, "Danger" should know the X-Men too well to let that happen, and SWORD could've been smart and strategically leaked the culprit's identity to minimize collateral damage.

    Still, I like to imagine Cass Nova getting knocked down a couple pegs by poor ol' Ord.[/spoiler:e7ccaffaf5]

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited August 2006
    Hey guys [spoiler:d51e2a3a6f]what if the mysterious package thingy is connected to the destruction of the Breakworld. Like the Breakworld is IN there or some shit. Or maybe not. Also, Cassandra Nova does not get knocked down pegs, becuase she is awesome.[/spoiler:d51e2a3a6f]

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    Pac Man's character is difficult to explain even to the Japanese -- he is an innocent character. He hasn't been educated to discern between good and evil. He acts more like a small child than a grown-up person. Think of him as a child learning in the course of his daily activities. If someone tells him guns are evil, he would be the type to rush out and eat guns. But he would most probably eat any gun, even the pistols of policemen who need them.
  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited August 2006
    august wrote:
    Htown wrote:
    Man that was awesome.

    [spoiler:f1d8852bda]...Yeabuhwhat?[/spoiler:f1d8852bda]

    lollerskates

    And, yeah, it must suck to be Ord right about now.

    And dangit, Whedon is lobbying HARD for Kitty Pryde to be my favorite X-Person of all time. It's like he's in love with her and he's explaining why.

    Whedon has an unreasoning affection for wee waifs that kick butt. But I'm down with that.

    Pretty much, yeah.

    here's a list of things he's worked on that don't have a girl kicking ass:

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited August 2006
    Alien Ressurection? Does Ryder kick any ass in that?

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    Pac Man's character is difficult to explain even to the Japanese -- he is an innocent character. He hasn't been educated to discern between good and evil. He acts more like a small child than a grown-up person. Think of him as a child learning in the course of his daily activities. If someone tells him guns are evil, he would be the type to rush out and eat guns. But he would most probably eat any gun, even the pistols of policemen who need them.
  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited August 2006
    august wrote:
    Alien Ressurection? Does Ryder kick any ass in that?

    They changed a lot from his screenplay. Which explains why ressurection sucked.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator mod
    edited August 2006
    well he wrote a song for the lion king 2 I guess

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  • Conditional_AxeConditional_Axe Registered User
    edited August 2006
    Mai-Kero wrote:
    august wrote:
    Alien Ressurection? Does Ryder kick any ass in that?

    They changed a lot from his screenplay. Which explains why ressurection sucked.
    the final act in his screenplay was a massive battle on earth. I think the beginning is relatively untouched.

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  • Conditional_AxeConditional_Axe Registered User
    edited August 2006
    Nobody has mentioned that Wolverine is hysterical.

    "Also, I met an Oriental...."

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  • SASA Registered User
    edited August 2006
    I really loved how Whedon's used Origin.

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  • thepassengerthepassenger Registered User
    edited August 2006
    Yes, Wolverine is hysterical. I take it that the current state of mind he's in is how he is as James Howlett in Origin?

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  • Conditional_AxeConditional_Axe Registered User
    edited August 2006
    Yes, Wolverine is hysterical. I take it that the current state of mind he's in is how he is as James Howlett in Origin?
    At a younger age, presumably. James doesn't talk a lot. He's too busy being sickly, and after his mutation kicks in, being traumatized.

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  • SASA Registered User
    edited August 2006
    Yes, Wolverine is hysterical. I take it that the current state of mind he's in is how he is as James Howlett in Origin?

    Yep thats him as a child. The "Logan" he's referring to is the drunk groundskeeper who is his biological father... I think. Thats one thing I never got, why did the grandfather (on his father's side) have claws even though it was implied that they weren't biologically related? Was Logan his illegitimate son? Or is it just a coincidence that groundskeeper-Logan looked just like Wolverine-Logan?

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  • Conditional_AxeConditional_Axe Registered User
    edited August 2006
    Yes, Wolverine is hysterical. I take it that the current state of mind he's in is how he is as James Howlett in Origin?

    Yep thats him as a child. The "Logan" he's referring to is the drunk groundskeeper who is his biological father... I think. Thats one thing I never got, why did the grandfather (on his father's side) have claws even though it was implied that they weren't biologically related? Was Logan his illegitimate son? Or is it just a coincidence that groundskeeper-Logan looked just like Wolverine-Logan?
    [spoiler:d94241f8b3]Lady Howlett had an affair with Tom Logan, the groundskeeper, and he's Wolverine's daddy.[/spoiler:d94241f8b3]

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  • SASA Registered User
    edited August 2006
    Yes, Wolverine is hysterical. I take it that the current state of mind he's in is how he is as James Howlett in Origin?

    Yep thats him as a child. The "Logan" he's referring to is the drunk groundskeeper who is his biological father... I think. Thats one thing I never got, why did the grandfather (on his father's side) have claws even though it was implied that they weren't biologically related? Was Logan his illegitimate son? Or is it just a coincidence that groundskeeper-Logan looked just like Wolverine-Logan?
    [spoiler:47ec587e1c]Lady Howlett had an affair with Tom Logan, the groundskeeper, and he's Wolverine's daddy.[/spoiler:47ec587e1c]

    [spoiler:47ec587e1c]But then why did the grandfather have mutant claws?[/spoiler:47ec587e1c]

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  • Conditional_AxeConditional_Axe Registered User
    edited August 2006
    Yes, Wolverine is hysterical. I take it that the current state of mind he's in is how he is as James Howlett in Origin?

    Yep thats him as a child. The "Logan" he's referring to is the drunk groundskeeper who is his biological father... I think. Thats one thing I never got, why did the grandfather (on his father's side) have claws even though it was implied that they weren't biologically related? Was Logan his illegitimate son? Or is it just a coincidence that groundskeeper-Logan looked just like Wolverine-Logan?
    [spoiler:5b3f3ca44d]Lady Howlett had an affair with Tom Logan, the groundskeeper, and he's Wolverine's daddy.[/spoiler:5b3f3ca44d]

    [spoiler:5b3f3ca44d]But then why did the grandfather have mutant claws?[/spoiler:5b3f3ca44d]
    I try to ignore that part.

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  • SASA Registered User
    edited August 2006
    Yes, Wolverine is hysterical. I take it that the current state of mind he's in is how he is as James Howlett in Origin?

    Yep thats him as a child. The "Logan" he's referring to is the drunk groundskeeper who is his biological father... I think. Thats one thing I never got, why did the grandfather (on his father's side) have claws even though it was implied that they weren't biologically related? Was Logan his illegitimate son? Or is it just a coincidence that groundskeeper-Logan looked just like Wolverine-Logan?
    [spoiler:e8e73688eb]Lady Howlett had an affair with Tom Logan, the groundskeeper, and he's Wolverine's daddy.[/spoiler:e8e73688eb]

    [spoiler:e8e73688eb]But then why did the grandfather have mutant claws?[/spoiler:e8e73688eb]
    I try to ignore that part.

    [spoiler:e8e73688eb]I guess the most logical explaination is that Thomas Logan was his illegitimate son.[/spoiler:e8e73688eb]

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  • Conditional_AxeConditional_Axe Registered User
    edited August 2006
    Yes, Wolverine is hysterical. I take it that the current state of mind he's in is how he is as James Howlett in Origin?

    Yep thats him as a child. The "Logan" he's referring to is the drunk groundskeeper who is his biological father... I think. Thats one thing I never got, why did the grandfather (on his father's side) have claws even though it was implied that they weren't biologically related? Was Logan his illegitimate son? Or is it just a coincidence that groundskeeper-Logan looked just like Wolverine-Logan?
    [spoiler:e4e9b5b739]Lady Howlett had an affair with Tom Logan, the groundskeeper, and he's Wolverine's daddy.[/spoiler:e4e9b5b739]

    [spoiler:e4e9b5b739]But then why did the grandfather have mutant claws?[/spoiler:e4e9b5b739]
    I try to ignore that part.

    [spoiler:e4e9b5b739]I guess the most logical explaination is that Thomas Logan was his illegitimate son.[/spoiler:e4e9b5b739]
    It's extremely plausible.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited August 2006
    Yeah, but [spoiler:34c40f8b85]how often do mutants have almost the EXACT same mutation as their parents?

    I mean look at the Summers brothers. They're SIBLINGS and they don't even have the same powers.[/spoiler:34c40f8b85]

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  • SASA Registered User
    edited August 2006
    Furu wrote:
    Yeah, but [spoiler:e228e4dabc]how often do mutants have almost the EXACT same mutation as their parents?

    I mean look at the Summers brothers. They're SIBLINGS and they don't even have the same powers.[/spoiler:e228e4dabc]

    Most of the examples are from alternate futures:

    Rachel Summers, Nocturne, Nate Grey, Polaris, Spider-Girl and a whole bunch of heroes from MC2, Beak's kids. There are plenty of examples.

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