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Im never sleeping on a GreyHound Bus ever again...

GahziGahzi Registered User regular
edited August 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/2008/07/31/greyhound-transcanada.html

Coles Notes: A man just goes apeshit on a bus, and stabs a random 21 year old passenger 50-60 times. Everyone gets off the bus and the attacker then proceeds to decapitate the victim and show it to everyone through the window of the bus.

Thoughts? Comments?

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    I rode Greyhound from El Paso to Rhode Island once. It was less than fun.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Read this in the "person" that annoys you thread, and holy shit that's just... Ghastly. I don't even know a word to describe it.

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  • GahziGahzi Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Anyone else find it frightning that no one tried to stop him?

    I have no idea what I would do in that situation.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Gahzi wrote: »
    Anyone else find it frightning that no one tried to stop him?

    I have no idea what I would do in that situation.

    I doubt anyone noticed until he already stabbed the guy a couple times.

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  • SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    That'll teach him to take his smelly shoes off.

    No seriously this is some fucked up shit. Taunting the passengers with the guy's decapitated head?

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  • MikeManMikeMan Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    holy fucking god. that's horrifying

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  • muninnmuninn Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    ... and thats why we should ban handguns!

    But, seriously, this is something out of a slasher flick. The lunacy of it all is just staggering.

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  • GahziGahzi Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Gahzi wrote: »
    Anyone else find it frightning that no one tried to stop him?

    I have no idea what I would do in that situation.

    I doubt anyone noticed until he already stabbed the guy a couple times.

    Apparently after the first stab the victim was screaming bloody murder.

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  • Psycho Internet HawkPsycho Internet Hawk Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    The guy had a massive rambo knife. I really don't think anyone could have taken him out, at least not withen the confines of a bus.

    I'm wondering the about the guy who did it, since apparently he appeared pretty normal to the people who talked to him on the bus.

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  • LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    It's times like these that I kinda wished pre-crime was real.

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  • TheCrumblyCrackerTheCrumblyCracker Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Well I was considering taking the Greyhound bus to school everyday to save gas money.. but now?

    I still am, but bringing a bigger knife.

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  • mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Gahzi wrote: »
    Anyone else find it frightning that no one tried to stop him?

    I have no idea what I would do in that situation.

    That would be pretty traumatic. I'm surprised that they were as orderly in getting everybody out of the bus as the article indicates. I'm not sure they would have been able to save the guy had they tried to intervene, and evacuating the bus allowed them to contain the guy inside the bus.

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  • GahziGahzi Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Well I was considering taking the Greyhound bus to school everyday to save gas money.. but now?

    I still am, but bringing a bigger knife.


    Forget knife, its time to invest in personal shield technology...Where are the Protoss when you need them.

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    "It was like he was at the beach or something. There was no rage in him. He wasn't swearing or cursing or anything. It was just like he was a robot or something."

    oh god the victim was john connor skynet wins. :(

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    edited July 2008
    "It was like he was at the beach or something. There was no rage in him. He wasn't swearing or cursing or anything. It was just like he was a robot or something."
    oh god the victim was john connor skynet wins. :(

    Don't worry, he was just going through all the John Connors in the phonebook.

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  • TrevorTrevor Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Nice to know that video games haven't desensitized me to violence to the point where I can't be disturbed by something in the news.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    What the...

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  • Andrew_JayAndrew_Jay Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I'm wondering the about the guy who did it, since apparently he appeared pretty normal to the people who talked to him on the bus.
    If he gets a decent lawyer, it will be interesting to see how his section 16 mental disorder defence plays out.

    CTV as more as well:
    CTV wrote:
    . . .

    Oliver said a truck driver then arrived at the scene and handed out wrenches and crowbars to several men. The small group gathered around the door to the bus and prevented the man from exiting until police arrived.

    RCMP eventually arrested the man after a standoff lasting several hours, said Oliver.

    Witnesses said the suspect was tall, large and wearing sunglasses, even though it was dark.

    . . .
    It was Corey Hart!

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  • mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Gahzi wrote: »
    Well I was considering taking the Greyhound bus to school everyday to save gas money.. but now?

    I still am, but bringing a bigger knife.


    Forget knife, its time to invest in personal shield technology...Where are the Protoss when you need them.

    Dune taught me that it won't work -- the knife wielder just needs to stab more slowly.

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  • AzioAzio Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    This guy's just fucked in the head. I hope he goes to jail for a long time but I'm going to stop sleeping on the bus just because of some random murder.

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  • TrevorTrevor Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Andrew_Jay wrote: »
    I'm wondering the about the guy who did it, since apparently he appeared pretty normal to the people who talked to him on the bus.
    If he gets a decent lawyer, it will be interesting to see how his section 16 mental disorder defence plays out.

    CTV as more as well:
    CTV wrote:
    . . .

    Oliver said a truck driver then arrived at the scene and handed out wrenches and crowbars to several men. The small group gathered around the door to the bus and prevented the man from exiting until police arrived.

    RCMP eventually arrested the man after a standoff lasting several hours, said Oliver.

    Witnesses said the suspect was tall, large and wearing sunglasses, even though it was dark.

    . . .
    It was Corey Hart!

    The only thing that could make this creepier is if he was singing "Sunglasses at Night" softly while he attacked the dude.

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  • FirstComradeStalinFirstComradeStalin Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Once when I was on a Greyhound a guy in the back started smoking weed. The entire bus could smell it. At the next stop he was promptly kicked off.

    Greyhounds are pretty shitty.

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  • Andrew_JayAndrew_Jay Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Azio wrote: »
    This guy's just fucked in the head. I'm not gonna let a random event like this frighten me into not sleeping on the bus.
    That's okay, in case you weren't too afraid to ride the bus, the Canadian Press was kind enough to put together a compendium of Greyhound-bus-violence in Canada.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Blame Canada.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Trevor wrote: »
    Andrew_Jay wrote: »
    I'm wondering the about the guy who did it, since apparently he appeared pretty normal to the people who talked to him on the bus.
    If he gets a decent lawyer, it will be interesting to see how his section 16 mental disorder defence plays out.

    CTV as more as well:
    CTV wrote:
    . . .

    Oliver said a truck driver then arrived at the scene and handed out wrenches and crowbars to several men. The small group gathered around the door to the bus and prevented the man from exiting until police arrived.

    RCMP eventually arrested the man after a standoff lasting several hours, said Oliver.

    Witnesses said the suspect was tall, large and wearing sunglasses, even though it was dark.

    . . .
    It was Corey Hart!

    The only thing that could make this creepier is if he was singing "Sunglasses at Night" softly while he attacked the dude.

    Or even more creepy would be if the guy who got stabbed happened to have been listening to it on his iPod or whatever.

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  • Idx86Idx86 Long days and pleasant nights.Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    It says in the CNN article...

    "Greyhound declined to comment, except to state that, 'There was an incident on one of our buses.'"

    Incident? Ya think?!

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  • TrevorTrevor Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Well, I'm not sure what they're expected to say.

    "Hey, people horribly traumatized be a decapitation on the crosstown! How about a free ride on us! Just give us a second to mop down the bus and replace the driver that just quit."?

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Andrew_Jay wrote: »
    Azio wrote: »
    This guy's just fucked in the head. I'm not gonna let a random event like this frighten me into not sleeping on the bus.
    That's okay, in case you weren't too afraid to ride the bus, the Canadian Press was kind enough to put together a compendium of Greyhound-bus-violence in Canada.

    I expected it to be more breathtaking in scope.

    This fucked up event, some American asshole stabs a passenger, a whole group of fucked up people attacks the driver, some other fucked up guy managed to crash the bus, and a guy attacks a pregnant passenger.

    5 major incidents in an 8 year period, only 2 of which lead to a fatality seems like a pretty good track record considering the vast number of Greyhound busses on the road at a given time.

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  • Ghandi 2Ghandi 2 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I'm wondering the about the guy who did it, since apparently he appeared pretty normal to the people who talked to him on the bus.
    People who appear to be ax-murderers are usually stopped before they murder someone.

    Now I feel guilty for laughing at the John Connor joke. :(

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  • TrevorTrevor Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Don't you try to bring logic into this. Somebody was attacked! You're a somebody, aren't you? Are you at risk?
    Tune in at 11 to find out. Also, we have Wally the water skiing hamster!

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Maaan. Creepy. I ride to and from Montreal a lot. Really though, a more pertinent reason not to ride the bus would be the fact that the bus sucks to hell and back.

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  • FirstComradeStalinFirstComradeStalin Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Oh, I saw that Azio. Believe me, I have nothing against weed. But if you're stupid enough to light up on a crowded bus? You deserve to get kicked off.

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  • AzioAzio Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Hey, if that guy had been high he probably wouldn't have stabbed a fellow passenger to death.

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  • Andrew_JayAndrew_Jay Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Forar wrote: »
    Andrew_Jay wrote: »
    Azio wrote: »
    This guy's just fucked in the head. I'm not gonna let a random event like this frighten me into not sleeping on the bus.
    That's okay, in case you weren't too afraid to ride the bus, the Canadian Press was kind enough to put together a compendium of Greyhound-bus-violence in Canada.
    I expected it to be more breathtaking in scope.
    Oh, it is all pretty minor. It just seemed like a silly thing to assemble so quickly, a real "be afraid everyone!" move.

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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Must have been an immigrant from the States.

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  • WerdnaWerdna Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Gahzi wrote: »
    Anyone else find it frightning that no one tried to stop him?

    I have no idea what I would do in that situation.

    I doubt anyone noticed until he already stabbed the guy a couple times.

    Horrific.

    I would hope that someone would come to my aid if I am being stabbed to death. I doubt none of us here would allow something like that to continue to happen if it were a loved one. Even if they might already be dead. Fuck the rambo knife. Besides, an assailant is not likely to kill another man if he is being attacked by a group of able people. I think we could all take a page from the "Let's Roll" mindset-- as trite as it is to mention it. I'd risk being wounded over watching someone murdered in public. I've lived in poor socio-economic towns most of my life and seen the likes of knife fights to a pregnant woman being jumped. Just last week I intervened in a public park where a guy was being jumped. And last month, a student was stabbed to death outside of the high school I taught at for the week, as his friends and sister watched in horror. Point is; these things happen more frequently than are noted or deemed newsworthy and little was done about it.

    My question is; if you are witnessing such a violent incident, having no other dependants to look after, would you rise to help someone or even call others to assist?

    Should we not expect strangers to come to each other's aid? As humans, are we able to transcend our initial fight or flight/other self-preserving instincts to act out of social responsibility?

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  • GahziGahzi Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Werdna wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Gahzi wrote: »
    Anyone else find it frightning that no one tried to stop him?

    I have no idea what I would do in that situation.

    I doubt anyone noticed until he already stabbed the guy a couple times.

    Horrific.

    I would hope that someone would come to my aid if I am being stabbed to death. I doubt none of us here would allow something like that to continue to happen if it were a loved one. Even if they might already be dead. Fuck the rambo knife. Besides, an assailant is not likely to kill another man if he is being attacked by a group of able people. I think we could all take a page from the "Let's Roll" mindset-- as trite as it is to mention it. I'd risk being wounded over watching someone murdered in public. I've lived in poor socio-economic towns most of my life and seen the likes of knife fights to a pregnant woman being jumped. Just last week I intervened in a public park where a guy was being jumped. And last month, a student was stabbed to death outside of the high school I taught at for the week, as his friends and sister watched in horror. Point is; these things happen more frequently than are noted or deemed newsworthy and little was done about it.

    My question is; if you are witnessing such a violent incident, having no other dependants to look after, would you rise to help someone or even call others to assist?

    Should we not expect strangers to come to each other's aid? As humans, are we able to transcend our initial fight or flight/other self-preserving instincts to act out of social responsibility?


    I would like to think that everyone would want to, but truthfully our own instincts would be going against us unless it is a loved one.

    I can't say 100% I would go in with a cape and fight the guy, im just saying that until you enter a situation like that you won't know how you will react.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Werdna wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Gahzi wrote: »
    Anyone else find it frightning that no one tried to stop him?

    I have no idea what I would do in that situation.

    I doubt anyone noticed until he already stabbed the guy a couple times.

    Horrific.

    I would hope that someone would come to my aid if I am being stabbed to death. I doubt none of us here would allow something like that to continue to happen if it were a loved one. Even if they might already be dead. Fuck the rambo knife. Besides, an assailant is not likely to kill another man if he is being attacked by a group of able people. I think we could all take a page from the "Let's Roll" mindset-- as trite as it is to mention it. I'd risk being wounded over watching someone murdered in public. I've lived in poor socio-economic towns most of my life and seen the likes of knife fights to a pregnant woman being jumped. Just last week I intervened in a public park where a guy was being jumped. And last month, a student was stabbed to death outside of the high school I taught at for the week, as his friends and sister watched in horror. Point is; these things happen more frequently than are noted or deemed newsworthy and little was done about it.

    My question is; if you are witnessing such a violent incident, having no other dependants to look after, would you rise to help someone or even call others to assist?

    Should we not expect strangers to come to each other's aid? As humans, are we able to transcend our initial fight or flight/other self-preserving instincts to act out of social responsibility?

    Honestly? I'd say in this scenario everyone on the bus did the right thing. Given that the attacker began his assault on a sleeping man, with his very first strike being to the neck, the odds are all but zero that anyone could have done anything to prevent the victims death. At best they'd have probably gained him the luxury of bleeding to death or choking to death on his own blood well before help could arrive.

    And at what cost? Attacking a man unarmed with a knife, all it takes is one mistake and you're now pretty fucked up. Given the unlikelihood of a rescue and high odds of more people being hurt, it's probably for the best everyone evacuated the bus.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I must be desensitized. This doesn't horrify or stun me. Sure, it's unfortunate, but I'm not rocked to my core or anything. I'm sure it sucked to be there, but that's about as far as I go.

    Anyone with me on this? Or do I have problems?

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  • saint2esaint2e Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Andrew_Jay wrote: »
    I'm wondering the about the guy who did it, since apparently he appeared pretty normal to the people who talked to him on the bus.
    If he gets a decent lawyer, it will be interesting to see how his section 16 mental disorder defence plays out.

    CTV as more as well:
    CTV wrote:
    . . .

    Oliver said a truck driver then arrived at the scene and handed out wrenches and crowbars to several men. The small group gathered around the door to the bus and prevented the man from exiting until police arrived.

    RCMP eventually arrested the man after a standoff lasting several hours, said Oliver.

    Witnesses said the suspect was tall, large and wearing sunglasses, even though it was dark.

    . . .
    It was Corey Hart!

    Don't switch the blade on the guy in shades; oh no

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