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[WAR] - Melee DPS: Schrödinger's Slayers and Choppas

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    tyrannus wrote: »
    reroll witch elf it is better
    Lawl. WE is a good class, or at least I like it, but I have a friend who's playing Marauder and he's able to out-damage me a fair chunk of the time. He's definitely a little more durable than I am, but we usually run with a few good healers so that tends not to factor in. Where he really shines is any sort of situation that involves a choke point. Keep doors, keep ramps, the bridge in Nordenwatch, the traffic jam that usually happens in front of the temple in Mourkain. There are lots of places where our tanks can clog people up and he's able to multiply his output significantly.

    I'm not going to lie to you.

    Witch Elves do not put out the mad deeps. Marauders will out DPS you. Hell, Squig Herders will out DPS you. You will have alot of deaths. We are fragile and if we get focused oh god we are going to die horribly in a coat of pain.

    But we kill the Archmages. And Bright Wizards. And the Rune Priests.

    We do it well.

    We are the BEST AT IT.

    You kill that clothie more or less solo, it dosen't matter that you died horribly after. You did your job. You shed blood for Khaine, and he is pleased.

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    PRESENT ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE

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  • CaedereCaedere S'no regrets BIRDIESRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Yeah, in Stonetroll and Phoenix Gate, I'm always either top or second in terms of pure DPS. It's all about Enfeebling Strike, honestly. :D

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    yeah thats right, second

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  • JebuJebu Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    By the way, Kiss of Death provides no real benefit against a target that can't heal. It only affects how much the target heals, not how much the target is healed.

    So against, say, a Bright Wizard or Engineer, Kiss of Agony or Kiss of Betrayal would be better.

    I've found my Witch Elf is much better when there's something big and nasty distracting the enemy from me. When I can get behind an enemy tank and use Agonizing Wound or just run around shanking the healers, my performance in RvR goes way up. So find a friend (i.e. decoy) for best results.

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  • CaedereCaedere S'no regrets BIRDIESRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I love how Kisses proc off when we throw our daggers - I've taken out a lot of people by just chucking daggers and watching them hit for about 10x more than they were expecting. :D

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    unless you're specced for suffering, then kiss of doom + kiss of death will provide a lot more immediate damage.

    kiss of betrayal i've yet to try

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  • DracilDracil Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    As a Bright Wizard, I can't wait to be able to PBAOE stun you for Witch Elves for 5s when you pop up behind me and proceed to nuke you to death. :D

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    fleet footed will remove that and then we'll stun you just the same

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  • JebuJebu Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Dracil wrote: »
    As a Bright Wizard, I can't wait to be able to PBAOE stun you for Witch Elves for 5s when you pop up behind me and proceed to nuke you to death. :D

    Throat Slitter!

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  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Zzulu wrote: »
    For example, you get a skill at 40 which draws your target close to you via tentacles. This just screams erotic fanfiction.
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    COME HERE!

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  • AumniAumni Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Klyka wrote: »
    Zzulu wrote: »
    For example, you get a skill at 40 which draws your target close to you via tentacles. This just screams erotic fanfiction.
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    COME HERE!

    The fuck? Did you just fuck up Scorpion's line?

    Seriously!?

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  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Aumni wrote: »
    Klyka wrote: »
    Zzulu wrote: »
    For example, you get a skill at 40 which draws your target close to you via tentacles. This just screams erotic fanfiction.
    59613-3.jpg
    COME HERE!

    The fuck? Did you just fuck up Scorpion's line?

    Seriously!?

    I...ehm..I just...I improvised?

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  • ShensShens Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Klyka wrote: »
    Aumni wrote: »
    Klyka wrote: »
    Zzulu wrote: »
    For example, you get a skill at 40 which draws your target close to you via tentacles. This just screams erotic fanfiction.
    59613-3.jpg
    COME HERE!

    The fuck? Did you just fuck up Scorpion's line?

    Seriously!?

    I...ehm..I just...I improvised?

    :x :x :x :x :x

    Seriously?

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  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Shens wrote: »
    Klyka wrote: »
    Aumni wrote: »
    Klyka wrote: »
    Zzulu wrote: »
    For example, you get a skill at 40 which draws your target close to you via tentacles. This just screams erotic fanfiction.
    59613-3.jpg
    COME HERE!

    The fuck? Did you just fuck up Scorpion's line?

    Seriously!?

    I...ehm..I just...I improvised?

    :x :x :x :x :x

    Seriously?

    GET OVER HERE!


    and give me a hug

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  • CaedereCaedere S'no regrets BIRDIESRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    He says "COME HERE" too, depending on the game. ;D

    And I love Bright Wizards soooo much! Enfeebling Strike, then they pop their root and try to run, not realizing that I don't even go near them unless I can Fleet-Foot it after 'em.

    I can imagine the expression of surprise on the players' faces when they realize that they're silenced and they have 90lbs of pissed-off, bloodthirsty Witch Elf coming after them. Yes, please, keep trying to run! You only hasten your demise! :twisted:

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  • MadroxMadrox NYRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    re: Scorpion

    lostsoulbentonrevenge

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  • ShensShens Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Klyka wrote: »
    Shens wrote: »
    Klyka wrote: »
    Aumni wrote: »
    Klyka wrote: »
    Zzulu wrote: »
    For example, you get a skill at 40 which draws your target close to you via tentacles. This just screams erotic fanfiction.
    59613-3.jpg
    COME HERE!

    The fuck? Did you just fuck up Scorpion's line?

    Seriously!?

    I...ehm..I just...I improvised?

    :x :x :x :x :x

    Seriously?

    GET OVER HERE!


    and give me a hug

    <3<3

    Would it be horrible if I actually set up a macro to shout, "Get over here!" Before I use the skill?

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  • OatsOats Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    No.

    I think Saeris made someone a macro for WoW that had a chance to shout out one of a few Captain America taglines for the shield throw spell.

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  • MadroxMadrox NYRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    "When Captain America throws his mighty shield...
    All those who chose to oppose his shield must yield!"

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  • ringswraithringswraith Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Because I'm a newb...

    What does PBAE stand for? I'm guessing AE = Area Effect, but that better not be Peanut Butter.

    Or.. on second thought...


    /yum

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Point Blank

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  • ShabootyShabooty Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Tendrils are cool, but lions are cooler.

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  • MadroxMadrox NYRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Shabooty wrote: »
    Tendrils are cool, but lions are cooler.

    Really this just boils down to the age old question

    tentacle porn or bestiality?

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  • AngryAngry The glory I had witnessed was just a sleight of handRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    those are going to serve two different purposes. the tendril will be more of a focus firing execution.

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Angry wrote: »
    those are going to serve two different purposes. the tendril will be more of a focus firing execution.

    And the Lion will throw the squishiest healer right to you so they can be raped by the meele zerg.

    Both different

    Both fantastic

    All RAPE.

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  • risumonrisumon Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Shabooty wrote: »
    Tendrils are cool, but lions are cooler.

    Will that work if they are on a keep wall though?

    What if it was a lion with tentacles? pwnage!

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  • Just Some DudeJust Some Dude Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Since it occurs to me I haven't noticed, do lions cause collision?

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  • vonPoonBurGervonPoonBurGer Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    risumon wrote: »
    What if it was a lion with tentacles? pwnage!
    How about a panther with tentacles? Pretty close!

    I just want you all the know what finding that image cost me. Amongst the google image search results for "displacer beast," there is at least one displacer beast furry pic. D: Furry / tentacle monster porn, that has got to be a pretty rare combo. Or at least I bloody well hope so...

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  • LednehLedneh shinesquawk Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Witch Elf questions!

    - Is it at all worth using Envenomed Blade in RvR? It always just feels like there's better stuff I could be doing any time I think to use it, even though I guess logic dictates that it's very AP efficient if the target's gonna live longer than the 15 or so seconds it takes to apply three and let it run down.

    - Would I be better served stacking the hell out of Strength and Weapon Skill and just accepting death, or should I gather up some toughness and resists?

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Shens wrote: »
    Klyka wrote: »
    Shens wrote: »
    Klyka wrote: »
    Aumni wrote: »
    Klyka wrote: »
    Zzulu wrote: »
    For example, you get a skill at 40 which draws your target close to you via tentacles. This just screams erotic fanfiction.
    59613-3.jpg
    COME HERE!

    The fuck? Did you just fuck up Scorpion's line?

    Seriously!?

    I...ehm..I just...I improvised?

    :x :x :x :x :x

    Seriously?

    GET OVER HERE!


    and give me a hug

    <3<3

    Would it be horrible if I actually set up a macro to shout, "Get over here!" Before I use the skill?

    I think them not being able to understand you would diminish the effect somewhat.

    Zek on
  • ringswraithringswraith Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    risumon wrote: »
    Shabooty wrote: »
    Tendrils are cool, but lions are cooler.

    Will that work if they are on a keep wall though?

    What if it was a lion with tentacles? pwnage!


    My friend who was in the Beta claimed that at one point, while defending a Keep as Order, Marauders on the ground were able to use their ability to pluck defenders off the keep walls.

    I'm guessing that's been fixed, but... /shrug

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    i love envenomed blade, and i stack str and WS.

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  • DracilDracil Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Jebu wrote: »
    Dracil wrote: »
    As a Bright Wizard, I can't wait to be able to PBAOE stun you for Witch Elves for 5s when you pop up behind me and proceed to nuke you to death. :D

    Throat Slitter!

    It's a morale ability. You can't do anything about that. Not even immunity timers will save you. If they fix Scintillating energy, that can even be a 7s stun instead.

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  • programjunkieprogramjunkie Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Dracil wrote: »
    Jebu wrote: »
    Dracil wrote: »
    As a Bright Wizard, I can't wait to be able to PBAOE stun you for Witch Elves for 5s when you pop up behind me and proceed to nuke you to death. :D

    Throat Slitter!

    It's a morale ability. You can't do anything about that. Not even immunity timers will save you. If they fix Scintillating energy, that can even be a 7s stun instead.

    A seven second stun is broken as fuck. They need to nerf the hell out of that. In comparison, my class gets a 3 second stun only when talented, and it requires special positioning.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Dracil wrote: »
    Jebu wrote: »
    Dracil wrote: »
    As a Bright Wizard, I can't wait to be able to PBAOE stun you for Witch Elves for 5s when you pop up behind me and proceed to nuke you to death. :D

    Throat Slitter!

    It's a morale ability. You can't do anything about that. Not even immunity timers will save you. If they fix Scintillating energy, that can even be a 7s stun instead.

    A seven second stun is broken as fuck. They need to nerf the hell out of that. In comparison, my class gets a 3 second stun only when talented, and it requires special positioning.

    Morale abilities are all broken as fuck, that's sort of the point.

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Dracil wrote: »
    Jebu wrote: »
    Dracil wrote: »
    As a Bright Wizard, I can't wait to be able to PBAOE stun you for Witch Elves for 5s when you pop up behind me and proceed to nuke you to death. :D

    Throat Slitter!

    It's a morale ability. You can't do anything about that. Not even immunity timers will save you. If they fix Scintillating energy, that can even be a 7s stun instead.

    A seven second stun is broken as fuck. They need to nerf the hell out of that. In comparison, my class gets a 3 second stun only when talented, and it requires special positioning.

    feinted positioning is there for a reason!

    incidentally, there's an elixer that disrupts (resists) all spells for 7 seconds. so just pop that!

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  • programjunkieprogramjunkie Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    tyrannus wrote: »
    Dracil wrote: »
    Jebu wrote: »
    Dracil wrote: »
    As a Bright Wizard, I can't wait to be able to PBAOE stun you for Witch Elves for 5s when you pop up behind me and proceed to nuke you to death. :D

    Throat Slitter!

    It's a morale ability. You can't do anything about that. Not even immunity timers will save you. If they fix Scintillating energy, that can even be a 7s stun instead.

    A seven second stun is broken as fuck. They need to nerf the hell out of that. In comparison, my class gets a 3 second stun only when talented, and it requires special positioning.

    feinted positioning is there for a reason!

    incidentally, there's an elixer that disrupts (resists) all spells for 7 seconds. so just pop that!

    I don't think that works against morale abilities, and if I have heard correctly, testing seems to indicate the math on that elixer is Base Disrupt * (1.00 + 1.00), rather than Disrupt = 100% in general.

    Seven seconds is a bit much. I'd like to see it taken down to 4-5 and the AOE stun to 3. This is especially important as BW / Sorc can do 33% of my (and presumably most non-tank classes) healthbar in one spell cast.

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  • Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Bright Wizard: "lol, I'll just root this WE out of melee range and take the flag!"

    Me: "Whoops, knife in your head."

    And Jagged Edge is great. Looking forward to Kiss of Doom and the Running DoT too.

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  • ShensShens Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Dracil wrote: »
    Jebu wrote: »
    Dracil wrote: »
    As a Bright Wizard, I can't wait to be able to PBAOE stun you for Witch Elves for 5s when you pop up behind me and proceed to nuke you to death. :D

    Throat Slitter!

    It's a morale ability. You can't do anything about that. Not even immunity timers will save you. If they fix Scintillating energy, that can even be a 7s stun instead.

    A seven second stun is broken as fuck. They need to nerf the hell out of that. In comparison, my class gets a 3 second stun only when talented, and it requires special positioning.

    How often do you actually get to use your Morale 4 abilities? Rarely if ever?

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