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Borat: Most Explosive Movie Of The Decade?
entropykid
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So, I just saw what has to be the most ingenius and hillarious comedy I've ever seen. I also consider it way more politically explosive than Passion of the Christ or Fahrenheit 9/11. The great thing is, Sascha Cohen's Borat character, no matter how shocking the things he says nonchalantly are...could not be more sincere. And that's what makes him so convincing to watch.
I've seen over 2000 movies, alot of them of the more envelope pushing material...but man, I have to hand it to Sascha Cohen, nothing could prepare me for Borat. The social, political and laugh out loud implications of Borat the movie are so far reaching, it is a true barometer of people's "tolerence" and "comfort" level. I myself was surprised it got away with an R rating, and that it got picked up by Fox and made the most well advertised movie since Superman.
I think this film is a test to what people can allow themselves to laugh at and tolerate. People who consider themself liberal or conservative, or tolerant/hard to offend might have a different look on their face during certain scenes. Certainly, the level of hardcore anti Semetism(done as anti semetic parody, of course) I dont think has been displayed like that on the big screen in some time. Still, for those who manage to sit through the film without wincing...there is definately a pretty big "holy shit" scene
that is certainly one of the most crying on the floor hillarious, if not shocking scenes Ive seen in a movie.
the film will not just touch a nerve, but whack a slegehammer to people who are sensitive to Jewish, Gypsy, gay, feminist/female and other over the top jokes; as well as Christian fundamentalists, people who support the "war on terror",
etc.
The scene that creeped me out the most was the whole Rodeo scene...I think it is definately a very disturbing commentary on what the unfortunate mentality is with a lot of Americans. I think the whole film is a social commentary of where America is in the 21st century.
I myself am just curious how much of the film's reactions were candid/unscripted, and how many scenes the people were "in" on it to some level. Certainly, quite a bit of the film seems quite genuine(tho I wonder how they could legally put em in the film)
Also, I think it's genuis to pick a country that a lot of Americans will see as an odd mix of Russian meets Islamic culture.
So do you think Borat will be a litmus test for what people will allow themselves to laugh at, consider funny.
And what, for those who've seen it, were you're favorite moments?
I've seen over 2000 movies, alot of them of the more envelope pushing material...but man, I have to hand it to Sascha Cohen, nothing could prepare me for Borat. The social, political and laugh out loud implications of Borat the movie are so far reaching, it is a true barometer of people's "tolerence" and "comfort" level. I myself was surprised it got away with an R rating, and that it got picked up by Fox and made the most well advertised movie since Superman.
I think this film is a test to what people can allow themselves to laugh at and tolerate. People who consider themself liberal or conservative, or tolerant/hard to offend might have a different look on their face during certain scenes. Certainly, the level of hardcore anti Semetism(done as anti semetic parody, of course) I dont think has been displayed like that on the big screen in some time. Still, for those who manage to sit through the film without wincing...there is definately a pretty big "holy shit" scene
that is certainly one of the most crying on the floor hillarious, if not shocking scenes Ive seen in a movie.
the film will not just touch a nerve, but whack a slegehammer to people who are sensitive to Jewish, Gypsy, gay, feminist/female and other over the top jokes; as well as Christian fundamentalists, people who support the "war on terror",
etc.
The scene that creeped me out the most was the whole Rodeo scene...I think it is definately a very disturbing commentary on what the unfortunate mentality is with a lot of Americans. I think the whole film is a social commentary of where America is in the 21st century.
I myself am just curious how much of the film's reactions were candid/unscripted, and how many scenes the people were "in" on it to some level. Certainly, quite a bit of the film seems quite genuine(tho I wonder how they could legally put em in the film)
Also, I think it's genuis to pick a country that a lot of Americans will see as an odd mix of Russian meets Islamic culture.
So do you think Borat will be a litmus test for what people will allow themselves to laugh at, consider funny.
And what, for those who've seen it, were you're favorite moments?
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OR IS IT?!
[spoiler:160dd475af]The answer is yes.[/spoiler:160dd475af]
OR IS IT?!
[spoiler:1458fd1622]Yes again.[/spoiler:1458fd1622]
What if it isn't a movie?
Basically, he pretends these things because people believe it and then he can get them to say really dumb stuff that they would never say otherwise
like
In the deep south, talking to a white mansion owner after his black butler leaves the room
Borat: "So... that is your slave?"
Dude: "Unfortunately, no."
wow.
Edit: not you celery
Then you don't really know what the Borat character is all about.
Watch it first.
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It's amazing, what people are willing to say around a foreigner they don't even know. You gotta wonder, do these guys feel any sort of disgust towards the Borat character's anti-semitism (Cohen himself being Jewish)? Do they feel any ping of uncomfort at all, or are they somehow relieved to be able to express their true feelings? The exotic animal rancher that Borat interviewed on his show, for instance. How much did he want to say what he said, and how much of it was coaxed out of him?
[spoiler:7f9d85b3ff]Do not shrink me, gypsy.
And throwing money at the cockroaches, then running out of the house.[/spoiler:7f9d85b3ff]
[spoiler:aa4b35b864]Was the hooker character in on the whole thing when they were filming her first part at the mansion? It's hard to tell.
Also, the scene with Pam Anderson has got to be 100% genuine. She's not that good of an actress.[/spoiler:aa4b35b864]
I mean, he's mocking the US and Kazachstan, but I've never really seen him do something like that to his own culture or country. Did I just miss that? (Possible) Or is he the flaming asshat some people make him out to be? (Possible)
1. I don't see why his nationality would make him or prevent him from being an asshat.
2. Yes, he did "Borat's Guide to Britain" before he did stuff in the US, I believe. Possibly after, but he certainly targeted them as well.
I never pay much attention to hairy men in obscene man-thongs. /witty.
Iunno, Cohen isn't the sort of comedian I like to watch for long, so I was going by what his criticasters write in the papers (ie: he just flames everyone), my own limited knowledge about him and what others think of him.
The funny thing is a variety of moments/stunts in the movie that were clearly not "staged"(as in only Borat and the cameraman knew what was going on) ended up being reported in various newspapers and media outlets when they happened(like the Rodeo scene, which is one of the highlights of the trailer)
There's a scene later on that rivals something in say, Jesus Camp, that clearly is not staged; and it's the real situation happening that lends to the authenticity.
There's definately some parts where ya kind of are hoping the other person is somewhat "in" on it, if only because it's kind of f'd up.
Here's the trailer and clips for people curious what Borat is all about:
http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=12649
Strange, how the same Fox that runs the ultra right leaning government propaganda Orwellian news station "Fox News" also is behind Borat, Family Guy, and American Dad.
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In any case, I really want to see this movie. I probably won't see it this weekend because I'm sick, and if I start laughing too hard I won't be able to stop coughing. I'll probably see it next weekend. It looks hilarious.
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Not that it really proves anything, but it currently holds a 96% at RT.
[spoiler:450df1f1e3]A question for the American audience - did they keep in the naked fight between Borat and his producer?[/spoiler:450df1f1e3]
[spoiler:714df6d9ae]In all of its glory.[/spoiler:714df6d9ae]
HE gave them the impression that he was a kazakh journalist, they signed the release, which was probably difficult to read and kinda rushed at them at the end, and they signed it thinking they were going to be on a news show halfway across the world is some bumfuck country they had never heard of.