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GibbGibb Registered User regular
edited January 2009 in Games and Technology
I bought Metal Gear Portable Ops when it came out, but had no idea what I was doing. I just fumbled around, shooting guys, occasionally getting a new soldier. Just so I could use them to shoot more things. I had no idea what I was doing. But after doing a Big Boss Emblem run in MGS4, I realized I sucked at MGS. Now I'm addicted to Portable Ops, wardriving to get new soldiers, and CQC'ing my way through the game.

Any games you enjoy after coming back to them?

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  • Steak ButtplugSteak Buttplug Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    After my friends started getting into watching the Starcraft tournaments, I tried picking up a few games with them

    I figured "hey, I didn't much care for it when I was eleven, because I found the whole system confusing and involving too much work to get into the action, but maybe over the course of the years I've grown more patient and mature"

    turns out nope

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  • AumniAumni Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Street Fighter 2, mainly with the HD remix.

    When I was young it was all about Killer Instinct and those huge combos - I thought Street Fighter was basic and these other games were building on it. I was wrong, other games were trying to pay homage to Street Fighter in their own way because they couldn't live up to it.

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    This happened to me with SoaSE. I played a match on normal, got raped, played a match on easy, got raped, put it down for a few months, and then came back and started kicking ass.

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  • greeblegreeble Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Man I loved portable ops. Probably my most favorite portable game ever.... (Or at least top 5)

    Anyway. I was kinda like this Pixel Junk monsters. I kinda sucked and thought the game was hard. Then I read a tips/tricks guide and watched a youtube video of a guy playing one of the levels. After that I got a much better handle on the strategy involved in the game and was able to beat it 100%. A similar thing happened with Yggdra Union which is a rather complex game.

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  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    God Hand......nuff said.

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  • WoodroezWoodroez Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Honestly, and I regret that this happened, but the direct opposite seems to have to happened to me with Uncharted. I bought it fairly soon after it came out, played it and loved it until the point (minor spoiler i think)
    the very first meeting with the spec-ops type characters, with laser sights
    ...Got a bit frustrated and put it down, for what ended up being quite a long time. Then me and my cousins were playing Gears of War 2 on Horde and I started getting nostalgic about Uncharted.

    Popped it in, and suddenly the controls feel pretty clunky, I feel I'm struggling to get Drake around smoothly and it's hard to get headshots, so I'm burning through ammo. Just not what I remembered so fondly.

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I played A Link to the Past a lot when I was a kid and beat it multiple times. I always found some of the later dungeons to be very puzzling and the maps to be confusing.

    Now that it's available for the Wii's VC, I bought it and blew through it when I was staying home because I was sick. I didn't realize how intuitive the path in each dungeon was. It's not completely linear, but it's really obvious what room to go once you got this key or that item or whatever. The dungeon design is excellent, pretty much perfect even. I just didn't see how obvious it was when I was a kid.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Djiem wrote: »
    I played A Link to the Past a lot when I was a kid and beat it multiple times. I always found some of the later dungeons to be very puzzling and the maps to be confusing.

    Now that it's available for the Wii's VC, I bought it and blew through it when I was staying home because I was sick. I didn't realize how intuitive the path in each dungeon was. It's not completely linear, but it's really obvious what room to go once you got this key or that item or whatever. The dungeon design is excellent, pretty much perfect even. I just didn't see how obvious it was when I was a kid.

    I don't know if it's perfect, but I noticed when I went through the game again recently that the same thing applied. Actually, it's neat because I was able to do many dungeons out of order, at least to the point of getting the weapon/item in the dungeon. It's actually one of the things I miss about all of the 3D zeldas.

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  • carmofincarmofin Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Vagrant Story

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    EggyToast wrote: »
    Djiem wrote: »
    I played A Link to the Past a lot when I was a kid and beat it multiple times. I always found some of the later dungeons to be very puzzling and the maps to be confusing.

    Now that it's available for the Wii's VC, I bought it and blew through it when I was staying home because I was sick. I didn't realize how intuitive the path in each dungeon was. It's not completely linear, but it's really obvious what room to go once you got this key or that item or whatever. The dungeon design is excellent, pretty much perfect even. I just didn't see how obvious it was when I was a kid.

    I don't know if it's perfect, but I noticed when I went through the game again recently that the same thing applied. Actually, it's neat because I was able to do many dungeons out of order, at least to the point of getting the weapon/item in the dungeon. It's actually one of the things I miss about all of the 3D zeldas.

    I still don't like ALttP for the SNES too much. But for some weird reason, when I got it on GBA last year I started enjoying it a lot more than its console counterpart.

    And another example of this is Mario Galaxy. I didn't care too much for it when I first got it, but now I like it a lot. It's not even remotely as fun as Mario 64, but after several months of collecting dust I got enough motivation to get all the stars.

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  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Resident Evil 4. Well, I mean I enjoyed it before, I just wasn't very good at it. Now? All of sudden it just clicked. I stopped playing at the beginning of chapter 4 cause I got stuck. Now I'm at the end of the game, two nights after getting back into it.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    The first time I played ActRaiser, I hated it.

    I really can't remember why, because it's one of my favorites now.

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  • skyknytskyknyt Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2009
    carmofin wrote: »
    Vagrant Story

    Yeah, I struggled my way through maybe 1/4 of it when I first got it. Then I went off to college. When I had time to get back into gaming, I put Vagrant Story back in and started a new game. This time around, I figured out how the damage system worked, that combos were perhaps a bad idea sometimes, how to manage my risk, and that the super moves that drain your HP are actually really useful.

    It became one of my favorite games pretty quickly.

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  • carmofincarmofin Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    skyknyt wrote: »
    carmofin wrote: »
    Vagrant Story

    Yeah, I struggled my way through maybe 1/4 of it when I first got it. Then I went off to college. When I had time to get back into gaming, I put Vagrant Story back in and started a new game. This time around, I figured out how the damage system worked, that combos were perhaps a bad idea sometimes, how to manage my risk, and that the super moves that drain your HP are actually really useful.

    It became one of my favorite games pretty quickly.

    well i got up to about 3/4 of the game, at which point it just became completely impossible for me. frustrated i put it away for two years or so. then i picked it up again with a fresh mind, looked through the system again, started figuring out the damage and the smithing system (luckily it wasnt too late at that point) and then i started to build up an invincible superhero that struck down the final boss in one of the most epic endboss fights i remember.
    it was worth it i think.

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  • ParadisoParadiso Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Gears of War. I picked it up when it first came out and hated the control scheme. Hated it with a fiery passion. That first Berserker was a nightmare. I put it down, refusing to play it.

    Two years later: I pick it up on a lark one rainy afternoon and find myself completely mesmerized and captured by the firefights. I played it regularly until I finished it one evening, loving it all the way.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Halo.

    My first experience of playing an Xbox game was Halo with a friend who knew how to use the pistol. I struggled not to fall down holes all the time and just hated it. Later, once I was a heavier console gamer, I borrowed it from a friend to play through on my 360 and bought Halo 2 on the back of it, playing through both campaigns because I felt like it was a hole in my gaming knowledge. I wasn't too into it, but I definitely enjoyed it.

    Halo 3 is now one of my 'go-to' games. I play it when there's nothing else of the moment and it never really gets old.

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  • brynstarbrynstar Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    For me, it was the 3D GTA games. I'd always buy the new one, and always get fatigued several hours in. When GTA IV came out, I loved the changes they made and the new technology, and I finished the entire thing. It also gave me a new appreciation for the older games, which I enjoy much more now.

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  • kedinikkedinik Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Bloodlines. I was nonplussed by it and set it down the first time that I tried it. Time passed and I gave it another go, then I couldn't put it down until I finished a few days later.

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  • DarlanDarlan Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Console shooters.

    I've always enjoyed Halo 1 and Goldeneye and stuff, but I used to wonder why anyone would prefer to play with a gamepad instead of using a far more accurate mouse.

    Now though, I've gotten a lot better at using the thumbsticks, and more importantly, have come to appreciate being able to play games on a bigger screen and sit however I want instead of hunching over a keyboard with my face a foot or so from a monitor. Since almost every PC game I want anymore is coming to the 360 anyways, I can finally stop spending cash on upgrading my computer, and not have to worry about all of the little compatibility errors, DRM crap, and all of that stuff. It's not for everyone, but going console-only is working out great for me.

    Also, I've come to like my Wii more after finally getting into the Virtual Console scene, however terrible the Wii specific lineup may be it's hard to hate a system that can play practically every Mario, Zelda, and Metroid.

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  • YorkerYorker Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Willeth wrote: »
    Halo.

    My first experience of playing an Xbox game was Halo with a friend who knew how to use the pistol. I struggled not to fall down holes all the time and just hated it. Later, once I was a heavier console gamer, I borrowed it from a friend to play through on my 360 and bought Halo 2 on the back of it, playing through both campaigns because I felt like it was a hole in my gaming knowledge. I wasn't too into it, but I definitely enjoyed it.

    Halo 3 is now one of my 'go-to' games. I play it when there's nothing else of the moment and it never really gets old.

    I still haven't beat either H2 or CE, i think i got stuck in some fucking flood level on both of them.

    To be fair though i hadn't really played much console FPS before that, it was a strange and confusing experience.

    I think i'll dig them up this weekend now that you reminded me.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    The Library on CE will make you quit again if you don't power through it. Essentially you're stuck in rooms that slowly fill with Flood for a preset amount of time, over and over again. It's terrible.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    First time I played Resident Evil 2, I started the game by attempting to kill every zombie in the first screen and was killed shortly after. I then concluded that the game was impossible and didn't figure out I was supposed to run away until I read it in a guide.

    Hopefully I'll display more common sense in the event of a real zombie apocalypse.

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  • Triple BTriple B Bastard of the North MARegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    RTS's. I gave 'em a shot back in the early days with Warcraft and such, but ended up either A) sucking at them, or B) hating them.

    Took a break for a few years, and came back into the fray with C&C: Generals, and I've been in love with the genre ever since.

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  • GraviijaGraviija Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Man, there is no finer example for me that Oblivion. I bought the game with my 360, thinking it'd be a Zelda-esque adventure (never played Morrowind, or anything by Bethesda for that matter). I knew the world was supposed to be huge, but that sounded even cooler.

    Well, I hook everything up, try the game, and am utterly lost and confused. There was too much to do, and my equipment sucked, and godDAMN this game was big. I played for a couple hours, then put the game away for about 6 months.

    I was just sitting on the couch watching TV one day, when it hit me - I wanted to play Oblivion. I didn't know why, it just stuck in my head for some reason. So I put it back in, and ended up playing for about 80+ hours on the initial playthrough. No idea why I was suddenly compelled to play, but I'm glad I was.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Willeth wrote: »
    The Library on CE will make you quit again if you don't power through it. Essentially you're stuck in rooms that slowly fill with Flood for a preset amount of time, over and over again. It's great.

    If you can get into a gameplay flow, and especially if you're playing with a friend who is of decent skill level.

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  • DusdaDusda is ashamed of this post SLC, UTRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    This happens to me all the time when I switch to another game of a similar genre after playing that game for a while. Switching from CoD4 to CS, for example, is a bit of a mindfuck for me. Spatial awareness is the most difficult part; both games handle that in completely different ways. What to listen for, what fronts to worry about, that kind of stuff.

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  • Darth_MogsDarth_Mogs Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Skies of Arcadia for me. Towards the start, there's this battle that for -SOME REASON- kicked my ass horrendously. I really wasn't going to play it again. I figured I took a gamble on a game that's a little outside of things, and it bit me on the ass. So I talked about it to one of my friends, who was/is a hardcore Sega Enthusiast, and he literally told me if I didn't play SoA to completion, I was a horrible person.

    The next time I played it, I powered through that, and eventually beat it a few times. He was right.

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  • Dodge AspenDodge Aspen Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Someone mentioned Actraiser. Same for me. I hated the sim parts when I was a kid, and loved the platforming sword stuff. Now its the opposite. Fucking glorious game.

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  • DarkSymphonyDarkSymphony Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I still don't get really how to play MGS Portable Ops. I have it and I enjoy it and all, but I'm just not sure I quite get it. The problem is I play it like I would play any other MGS game and that seems to be my failing. This seems quite odd since it *plays* like any normal MGS game. I am decent at MGS games (not amazing or anything), but the PSP one just confuses the hell out of me.

    Should I be capturing every single guard and bringing them all back? should I even bother switching characters? is it best to just use Snake? Why bother with using guards if other guards know they are on my team?

    so many things just confuse me about it in a way that the game doesn't seem to imply a reason for.

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  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Tenchu: Wrath of Heaven. I <3 it and Fatal Shadows, but when I first started playing Tenchu I treated it very much like a Hitman or MGS game. Taking everything verrrry slowly, trying to understand every angle, fighting with the controls.

    After like, six hours I finally got my head around how tight the controls were. Like, if you jump from a roof there will be a half-second pause where your character lands and regains their footing - but if you hold the sneak button you land silently and can instantly move or attack. Instead of jumping in front of an enemy and getting killed, you can jump in front of him and put your blades into his stomach before he can react. Doing a 180 pike-jump off the roof of a 100-foot building, plummeting to the ground to do a kneeling-land on an enemy's shoulders, twisting your hips to snap his kneck around before doing a backflip off his still-standing frame as his body attempts to walk another two steps...

    :^: oh baby.

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  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Small PS3 text field = 2 posts.

    Also, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune. It took me soooo long to appreciate how good that game is. God of War too, come to think of it.

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  • greeblegreeble Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Should I be capturing every single guard and bringing them all back? should I even bother switching characters? is it best to just use Snake? Why bother with using guards if other guards know they are on my team?

    Yeah your are doing it wrong. If you use a conscripted soldier, enemies of the same type will treat you as friendly as long as you don't do anything suspicious. (Like raise your weapon, crawl or sneak, etc) However there are usually more than one enemy type on the map and they will still treat you as an enemy. So its a big advantage to use the proper enemy soldier since half the guys on the map will think you are a friendly. So yeah you should try to recruit multiple of each type so that you can find have a nice mix of perks and skills.

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  • brynstarbrynstar Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I still don't get really how to play MGS Portable Ops. I have it and I enjoy it and all, but I'm just not sure I quite get it. The problem is I play it like I would play any other MGS game and that seems to be my failing. This seems quite odd since it *plays* like any normal MGS game. I am decent at MGS games (not amazing or anything), but the PSP one just confuses the hell out of me.

    Should I be capturing every single guard and bringing them all back? should I even bother switching characters? is it best to just use Snake? Why bother with using guards if other guards know they are on my team?

    so many things just confuse me about it in a way that the game doesn't seem to imply a reason for.

    I focused more on getting to the end of each stage, and only captured guards when it was convenient. I had a little adjustment period for that game as well. The capture mechanic always felt like a somewhat artificial depth-enhancing gimmick to me. Although, if you're disguised just so, the enemies will have a harder time detecting you, a la the Big Shell disguise sequence in MGS2. It doesn't make a huge difference, and I always had more luck with the officers than the normal guys. Sometimes you'll get lucky and find an officer with really good stats, but Snake manages to beat most of the other characters.

    MGS PO is definitely more gamey than the other 3D Metal Gear games, and once I got past that, I ended up treating it more like a point A to point B, old school level-based game, and had much more fun with it. It was designed to be played in small chunks on the go, and I played the whole thing in like three sittings over two days in my apartment, so that might have had something to do with it too. :)

    EDIT: Fie, beaten by Greeble!

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  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Chance wrote: »
    Tenchu: Wrath of Heaven. I <3 it and Fatal Shadows, but when I first started playing Tenchu I treated it very much like a Hitman or MGS game. Taking everything verrrry slowly, trying to understand every angle, fighting with the controls.

    After like, six hours I finally got my head around how tight the controls were. Like, if you jump from a roof there will be a half-second pause where your character lands and regains their footing - but if you hold the sneak button you land silently and can instantly move or attack. Instead of jumping in front of an enemy and getting killed, you can jump in front of him and put your blades into his stomach before he can react. Doing a 180 pike-jump off the roof of a 100-foot building, plummeting to the ground to do a kneeling-land on an enemy's shoulders, twisting your hips to snap his kneck around before doing a backflip off his still-standing frame as his body attempts to walk another two steps...

    :^: oh baby.


    I still wish they'd bring back water stealth kills :(

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  • DarkSymphonyDarkSymphony Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    alright cool maybe I'll boot up the PSP today and give it a go since I'm kinda stuck at my place for the day with not much else to do. I just couldn't quite wrap my head around the game in more ways than one. I still don't understand it really, but i'll give it another go. I'm glad that I really enjoy it though because it's a game I've yet to beat and I'd like to.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Big Isy wrote: »
    Chance wrote: »
    Tenchu: Wrath of Heaven. I <3 it and Fatal Shadows, but when I first started playing Tenchu I treated it very much like a Hitman or MGS game. Taking everything verrrry slowly, trying to understand every angle, fighting with the controls.

    After like, six hours I finally got my head around how tight the controls were. Like, if you jump from a roof there will be a half-second pause where your character lands and regains their footing - but if you hold the sneak button you land silently and can instantly move or attack. Instead of jumping in front of an enemy and getting killed, you can jump in front of him and put your blades into his stomach before he can react. Doing a 180 pike-jump off the roof of a 100-foot building, plummeting to the ground to do a kneeling-land on an enemy's shoulders, twisting your hips to snap his kneck around before doing a backflip off his still-standing frame as his body attempts to walk another two steps...

    :^: oh baby.


    I still wish they'd bring back water stealth kills :(

    The new Tenchu for the Wii has water stealth kills.

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  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Renzo wrote: »
    Big Isy wrote: »
    Chance wrote: »
    Tenchu: Wrath of Heaven. I <3 it and Fatal Shadows, but when I first started playing Tenchu I treated it very much like a Hitman or MGS game. Taking everything verrrry slowly, trying to understand every angle, fighting with the controls.

    After like, six hours I finally got my head around how tight the controls were. Like, if you jump from a roof there will be a half-second pause where your character lands and regains their footing - but if you hold the sneak button you land silently and can instantly move or attack. Instead of jumping in front of an enemy and getting killed, you can jump in front of him and put your blades into his stomach before he can react. Doing a 180 pike-jump off the roof of a 100-foot building, plummeting to the ground to do a kneeling-land on an enemy's shoulders, twisting your hips to snap his kneck around before doing a backflip off his still-standing frame as his body attempts to walk another two steps...

    :^: oh baby.


    I still wish they'd bring back water stealth kills :(

    The new Tenchu for the Wii has water stealth kills.

    *HI 5*
    You awesome person, you! That's got me all giddy. not only ninja cats but water kills too!? Yes please!

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  • greeblegreeble Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    brynstar wrote: »
    MGS PO is definitely more gamey than the other 3D Metal Gear games, and once I got past that, I ended up treating it more like a point A to point B, old school level-based game, and had much more fun with it. It was designed to be played in small chunks on the go, and I played the whole thing in like three sittings over two days in my apartment, so that might have had something to do with it too. :)

    EDIT: Fie, beaten by Greeble!

    Hah, thats funny I treated it like pokemon, gotta collect them all. Snake has very good all around stats, but many of my soldiers had better stats in certain areas. (they also had key skills snake lacks) Also the more guys you collect the more men you can put on intel gathering and weapon development etc.

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    I’ll tell you what happens in Demon’s Souls when you die. You come back as a ghost with your health capped at half. And when you keep on dying, the alignment of the world turns black and the enemies get harder. That’s right, when you fail in this game, it gets harder. Why? Because fuck you is why.
  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    This isn't really game-related, but growing up I never liked olives.

    Then one day I decided I wanted olives, and I really liked them.

    Now, I like olives.

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  • DarkSymphonyDarkSymphony Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    i used to be aweful at Splinter Cell because it seemed so incredibly tilted towards trial and error. As in, it was intuitive it was all about picking 1 way to do something then finding out after-the-fact if it was the right thing to do. Then I played Chaos Theory and it all clicked. I played through and rarely got caught up in gunfire or alerts. I loved CT because I finally got a handle on how the series played.

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