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    needOpticneedOptic Registered User regular
    edited July 2009

    nO I like the middle one you did the square crop above. I'm assuming you darkened some of the foreground grass to isolate the light near the girls?

    Yep, played around with it in photoshop. There was a bit of light falloff happening naturally, but I def. took it up a notch or two.

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    FuzzFuzz Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    This shot you could crop everything to the left of his shoulder. It is distracting and adds nothing to the shot.

    Uhh.. boobs. It adds boobs to the shot.

    :P

    Just joking. Seriously, I hate that whole "journalists just point the camera" thing..

    What's wrong with having a journalistic shot that's also a great picture on its own?

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    muninnmuninn Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Fuzz wrote: »
    This shot you could crop everything to the left of his shoulder. It is distracting and adds nothing to the shot.

    Uhh.. boobs. It adds boobs to the shot.

    :P

    Just joking. Seriously, I hate that whole "journalists just point the camera" thing..

    What's wrong with having a journalistic shot that's also a great picture on its own?

    "f8 and be there."

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    Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I have no idea what you are trying to get at Fuzz. Those shots may document an event, but I would never put them in my newspaper, or even show them to my boss or, hell even the layout girl. They're snapshots.

    Capturing the image is the top priority, however, all things being equal, the image of higher technical quality will be accepted over those of lesser quality.

    Now, to be hopefully a little helpful to Staleghoti: faces. You need faces. You also need to be able to focus. A lot of these are compromised by ridiculous levels of camera shake and inexplicable focus. If Mr. Girl Talk is the focus of the photo in number 2 of the girl talk series then why isn't he in focus? If you're saying that the crowd is the focus, because they are at least slightly in focus, then you've probably missed the more important part of the shot by choosing a poor subject for focus.

    In addition to my advice on getting faces, you need to work on actually isolating a subject. Hands coming into the frame for no apparent reason are bad. Don't keep those shots. Find your subject, cut the extraneous, and isolate it, only then, if there is something that adds to the overall quality of the photo, should you consider including other things.

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    muninnmuninn Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Uncle Long wrote: »

    In addition to my advice on getting faces, you need to work on actually isolating a subject. Hands coming into the frame for no apparent reason are bad. Don't keep those shots. Find your subject, cut the extraneous, and isolate it, only then, if there is something that adds to the overall quality of the photo, should you consider including other things.

    This point can be veeery difficult in a concert setting, and you gotta work on your game.
    I remember trying to shoot some photos at a St. Vincent concert, and knowing the venue, my glass range and the lighting of the venue, I burrowed myself underneath a raised speaker platform to get a decent shot. And I waited the whole show for the frontwoman to pick up a damn guitar from the stand that was right in my shot, blocking half of her goddamn body.

    Guess what? She never picked up that guitar.

    The moral of the story? ... i dont know, I am drunk, but this shit aint easy.

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    Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    muninn wrote: »
    Uncle Long wrote: »

    In addition to my advice on getting faces, you need to work on actually isolating a subject. Hands coming into the frame for no apparent reason are bad. Don't keep those shots. Find your subject, cut the extraneous, and isolate it, only then, if there is something that adds to the overall quality of the photo, should you consider including other things.

    This point can be veeery difficult in a concert setting, and you gotta work on your game.
    I remember trying to shoot some photos at a St. Vincent concert, and knowing the venue, my glass range and the lighting of the venue, I burrowed myself underneath a raised speaker platform to get a decent shot. And I waited the whole show for the frontwoman to pick up a damn guitar from the stand that was right in my shot, blocking half of her goddamn body.

    Guess what? She never picked up that guitar.

    The moral of the story? ... i dont know, I am drunk, but this shit aint easy.

    No, it's not. And it's hard to describe how you get that shot. It takes a lot of practice and it takes a good deal of instinct. I mean, I can sit here and say that he just needs a D3 and the 200 f/2 and a monopod and he needs to have UDMA cards and stand on his head etc., but that saying about "f/8 and be there," really does apply, as it balances the technical f/8 with the less than technical "be there" and, the fact is that these two ideas go hand in hand and that makes it very difficult.

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    needOpticneedOptic Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
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    Edit: all things said are true. For every click there should be a thought involved. Those pictures posted before did not have thought. They had Michael j fox like twitches, perhaps, but not thought.

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    bombardierbombardier Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited July 2009
    Taking pictures in aquariums/zoos feels like cheating, but it's good practice I guess.

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    mullymully Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    soon they will inherit the earth

    also that one in the back is totally checking out the other ones fin

    "hmpf, mine's much better. why's hers so erect? i'm sure she's had work done on it."

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    StaleghotiStaleghoti Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Not gonna lie, I use auto focus way too much.

    My old SLR was all manual, and times were good. But since I stopped buying film and do not have the dough for a DSLR I've been relying really heavily on auto focus.

    So, how many lashes is that worth?

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    needOpticneedOptic Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I use autofocus 95% of the time, too. *shrug* Didn't know there was anything wrong with autofocus.

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    Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    It's rare that I ever use manual focus on my DSLR. All my other cameras are manual focus and I really don't prefer one over the other necessarily.

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    muninnmuninn Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Autofocus works just fine, and I use it most of the time. If it aint broke, dont fix it.



    Here are some picturz:

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    I think it is slightly crooked...


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    Will have to come back and take some close up shots of this place. It has a very interesting facade. Hope that no-one will mind me taking shots of a run down strip joint in the bad part of murder-city, USA.

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    needOpticneedOptic Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Munin - like 2 and 3 a lot. On 3 I would almost want to see more of the wall, but good anyway.

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    projectmayhemprojectmayhem Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Time for me to muck up this thread with my shoots from a month ago. It was my first time shooting live bands so it was a learn as I went sort of thing for sure:

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    There are a few more on my photoblog (shameless plug tripppagephotography.com). I can not wait till I have my real website up and running. So tired of linking to a wordpress.

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    ProspicienceProspicience The Raven King DenvemoloradoRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Oooo, loving #3 munin. The detail is awesome, right down to what I believe is a small shooter of whiskey.

    Project: Only one really doin' much for me is the last one, which I think the DoF and comp works great together. I think it might be the crops doing it for me in the rest. First one for example - too much empty space on the left of the gent, if he was facing the other way it'd be one thing. Anyways, just my 2cents.

    Anyways, despite my lack of posting pics... like at all. I am still taking some from time to time, feel like I'm in a huge slump though.

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    NostregarNostregar Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    nO: I don't typically like your photos (for whatever reason. I think we just look for different things) but I like that last one. The bars really stand out against the background and the OCD in me likes how they evenly frame the windows in the building behind them. I'm not so keen on the model, but she seems to fit into the scene as a whole pretty well so it doesn't bother me. The only real issue I have with it is that her right thigh (basically below the dress and until the other leg crosses over it) is such a similar color to the building behind her that it seems to disappear when I'm not looking directly at it. It may not be an issue at all at a larger size, just something I noticed.

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    StaleghotiStaleghoti Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I forgot to post this one I shot by accident while trying to get a good one of Ani DiFranco

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    Kinda makes me feel like the guy is waiting nervously to go on stage and perform.
    Sorta creepy, accidentally artsy thingy

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    ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    back from atlanta/savannah/other parts of georgia, gots hella photos
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    Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    The last one is good Projeck. I hoped you tipped him.

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    ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    i gave him like 4 or 5 dollars, yes

    also thank you

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    StaleghotiStaleghoti Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Last one is wicked

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    needOpticneedOptic Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Nostregar wrote: »
    nO: I don't typically like your photos (for whatever reason. I think we just look for different things) but I like that last one. The bars really stand out against the background and the OCD in me likes how they evenly frame the windows in the building behind them. I'm not so keen on the model, but she seems to fit into the scene as a whole pretty well so it doesn't bother me. The only real issue I have with it is that her right thigh (basically below the dress and until the other leg crosses over it) is such a similar color to the building behind her that it seems to disappear when I'm not looking directly at it. It may not be an issue at all at a larger size, just something I noticed.

    The feeling is mutual, both on the issue with the leg and the "liking of photos". My reasons for not liking yours are purely from a technical and think through aspect .


    Edit: projek - last one is indeed nice.

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    altmannaltmann Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    That's it. I'm doing it. I'm saving my fucking dollars and cents and getting a 5D Mk II. I'm up to about $650 right now. It's going to be a long trip but worth it. I mean, this could be my camera for 10+ years I'd hope.

    Does anyone know if it has an audio input? or is it just a little hole for recording sounds? Thanks!

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    needOpticneedOptic Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Or save 50%, and buy yourself a couple of high quality lenses + the 5D Mark I.
    I like the Mark II, don't get me wrong... but the price tag seems a little crazy.

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    ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    oh shucks

    EDIT
    not sure how i feel about this one
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    needOpticneedOptic Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Well, it has some geometric patterns and your frame is divided in half, but the existing geometry lacks complexity to make it really interesting for a second glance. I also don't think colors do it any good - looks better in b&w (tried it in PS).

    Ok, I'm almost done with the series...

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    FlayFlay Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I'm trying to teach myself how to take a decent photograph. At the moment I'm just going over the basics, but I'll try and come up with something decent to post here.

    I took this while walking home today. Apart from being resized, I've left it unedited so as to show my meagre photography skills and not my equally meagre photoshop ones.

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    PenpalPenpal Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Haven't posted in a long long time
    I did a photo shoot for a musician/friend-of-a-friend. Got paid in baked goods, which is alright

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    muninn wrote: »
    Autofocus works just fine, and I use it most of the time. If it aint broke, dont fix it.



    Here are some picturz:

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    I think it is slightly crooked...


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    Will have to come back and take some close up shots of this place. It has a very interesting facade. Hope that no-one will mind me taking shots of a run down strip joint in the bad part of murder-city, USA.

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    I like all of these, especially the second. They're more interesting and less mundane than most city-photos

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    needOpticneedOptic Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Penpal - 2 and 7 look the best from the batch, however it looked to me like there were some issues with the clarity... so I went to your flicker page. Your focus is off on both of the shots or your shutter speed was too slow and you shook the camera. They're both blurry @ 100%

    Edit: one more thing I forgot to say - you could drastically improve 2 if you used a white reflector / foamcore board on the lower right for that portrait. Would light up and bring out the eyes like crazy.

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    needOpticneedOptic Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    So me and a buddy registered for a whole day lighting class @ Calumet Chicago in a couple of weeks.
    I'll let you guys know if it's any good. For $100 it better be :)

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    CommunistCowCommunistCow Abstract Metal ThingyRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    projeck: I like that last photo too but the only thing that bothers me is he is holding the harmonica wrong. Not that you could do anything about it. Also you might want to crop a little bit more stuff off above his head.

    Staleghoti: I use autofocus 99% of the time. The only time I am not using it is if I am shooting something like a landscape at night. In that case I just put it on manual and slap it all the way to infinity. My rule of thumb is that I would rather have a grainy picture from using a high iso than a photo that is blurry and basically unusable. So put your autofocus on manual so you pick which AF point it is using and then make sure you point that at your subject.
    Penpal wrote: »
    Haven't posted in a long long time
    I did a photo shoot for a musician/friend-of-a-friend. Got paid in baked goods, which is alright

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    This is a good shot; I just love the feel too it. I would probably crop maybe 10% off the edge of the whole picture.
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    Nice composition. The right side of the face is almost too dark but the little bit of light on the cheek I think saves it. Your focus is off and is on the hair on her forehead and not on her eye. With such a low DOF you have to be really careful about that or about moving at all after focusing.
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    Sort of interesting but doesn't really match the rest of the series. Also it would be nice if her head and eyes were another 15-30 degrees closer to the camera.
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    This is a really 'meh' shot because of the lack of light on the right side of her face and because of the slight downward angle that it was shot at.

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    This picture is ok but I would try and bring her eyes out in post. The shirt almost blends in with the background but is just a few shades lighter so I think it works.
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    The model looks a bit uncomfortable in this photo. Also I would crop off quite a bit of the water in front of her and a tiny bit at the top. With portrait photos you want the model to take up the majority of the frame, but with environmental portraits its a little bit different. So I would suggest in general cropping, zooming in, or just getting closer next time you do something like this.
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    This is a rather good portrait. You haven't cropped her hand like the other shot like this. She fills the frame and her mouth is closed which are good things. You have lost quite a bit of definition in the right eye from some shadows. The eyes are key to portraits so you want to either bring that out in post or bring a reflector next time and bounce some light up into the face to get it more evenly lit.


    Overall I think you need to work on making sure the subject isn't in the smack middle of the frame the majority of the time and making sure the model takes up just a little bit more of the frame in the environmental portraits. Remember think about what you are trying to bring out as your subject. Is it the waterfall/water or is it the girl in said water?

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    needOpticneedOptic Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    And focus on the friggin eyes and not the hair :)

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    StaleghotiStaleghoti Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    That water looks cold, your friend is a trooper!

    I like 6

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    StaleghotiStaleghoti Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Ya gotta lose ya mind in Detroit Rock City!!!

    BLAMO!

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    gilraingilrain Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    The chroma noise is unfortunate -- could maybe be touched up, since it's mainly around the sparks? Awesome photo, though -- the juxtaposition between the larger-than-life projection of the subject and the relatively small subject himself is pretty cool. A person could wax pseudo-intellectual. ;P

    Er... that is what's happening, right? The performance is projected for people sitting far away? It's a little confusing imagining how that was set up, from your photo, but the visual confusion sort of works too, so it's cool. :) :^:

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    StaleghotiStaleghoti Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Yeah, there was a massive screen, actually 3 but the main stage one was the massivest.

    Can anyone list some methods on removing that chroma noise

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    bombardierbombardier Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited July 2009
    ONE HUNDRED PAGES.

    Make a new one Staleghoti.

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