even though egypt is confusing since it's a new map, i think i already know egypt better than steel
Well you see, Steel is an utterly shit map. Everything about it, shit.
You're the wrongest wrong person who's ever been wrong. It's dynamic, there are multiple paths of attack, you can flank people not only at the point but while they are on their way to the point, matches are balanced just a little towards the Red team... About the only bad thing you can say about it is that it takes some getting used to. I think a lot of people hate it because they get lost and wander into the last cap and don't realize there's a sniper watching it for scoots.
Also I can't wait to play it with the FoN. Fighting people on E is going to be absolutely amazing.
I hate it because it's a boring kill-fest that takes place in overly cramped quarters outside of point B.
I hated Steel for a long time but now I like it a lot. It just takes some getting used to to learn the layout, but even after playing it a bunch I still get lost sometimes. I love the battles for E though, they can be very intense and a lot of fun. I like having the option of capping E as well as the current open point, and the "oh shits" feeling you get on defense when you're trying to hold them back on B and suddenly there's a scoot on E is great too.
I'm pretty sure I know what kind of response I'm going to get posting in this topic, but I'll do it anyways.
I'm getting a new laptop next week sometime and I haven't been able to play new PC games for quite sometime, so I am VERY excited to get back into it. Do you recommend I pick up TF2 for $10 right now while it's cheap and then install it on my new computer once I get it?
But that's the point. A pair of scouts may not survive at the contested point B/C/D for long, but if they are capping E, that's going to cause at least two or three defenders to veer away from the combat to deal with them.
edit: I'd say go for it, palmer. $10 is a nice price and you'll get lots of playtime out of it.
I'm pretty sure I know what kind of response I'm going to get posting in this topic, but I'll do it anyways.
I'm getting a new laptop next week sometime and I haven't been able to play new PC games for quite sometime, so I am VERY excited to get back into it. Do you recommend I pick up TF2 for $10 right now while it's cheap and then install it on my new computer once I get it?
I'm pretty sure I know what kind of response I'm going to get posting in this topic, but I'll do it anyways.
I'm getting a new laptop next week sometime and I haven't been able to play new PC games for quite sometime, so I am VERY excited to get back into it. Do you recommend I pick up TF2 for $10 right now while it's cheap and then install it on my new computer once I get it?
If you intend on getting it eventually anyway, yes.
Just register a steam account and buy it [ i'd install steam on what your using now just to make sure it pops up as owned but not-installed none the less, then just reinstall steam and install tf2 when you get your new PC ]
I'm pretty sure I know what kind of response I'm going to get posting in this topic, but I'll do it anyways.
I'm getting a new laptop next week sometime and I haven't been able to play new PC games for quite sometime, so I am VERY excited to get back into it. Do you recommend I pick up TF2 for $10 right now while it's cheap and then install it on my new computer once I get it?
you are constraining your argument to elements that fall in your favor - which masks how debased your argument is.
Why are you limiting your definition of the absurdity of unlocks just to FPS? why not to all games?
your "argument" is purely opinion driven, and is one that doesn't matter in the face of a system designed to have you earn diversity in your character options.
FPSs are a genre where multiplayer gameplay is primarily limited to direct competition with other players, and in the case of TF2 it is entirely limited to direct competition with other players. And they are a genre where, in the past, the playing field was level aside from player skill.
So in this way I'd say they are unique, or at least different from most other games (unlockable cars in multiplayer racing games were annoying as well).
I'll accept that TF2 is not the only game ever to go this route, but it is the first that I've played. If CoD4 uses unlockables I'd hate that too.
I'll also point out that when I purchased this game this was not the case. And it's not like I can sell it if I decide I don't like it.
And Steel is fucking awesome y'all need to shut it.
I fail to see why a thread would be locked for talking about an aspect of the game.
I bet you do.
Sorry, I'll stop if everybody else does. I'll also go start a "bitching about unlockables" thread. I'm not trying to start shit, or lose us our TF2 thread again, or anything. I guess I just didn't see why this wasn't on-topic for the thread (well, until the title change).
Here's a simple idea for engie unlock: only level 1, but can't be destroyed while building.
Also, I think this is how sandman works:
1. You aim at a guy or piece of landscape.
2. Your position and the coordinates you're aiming at are put into ball arc calculation.
3. The ball will always end up at the exact coordinates your crosshairs were pointing at when you fired, provided it doesn't hit anything else.
This is why it's easier to hit long range rather than hitting strafers. As long as a person's head stays in the same place during the ball's flight, if you got a headshot, it'll always clonk him and YOU DON'T HAVE TO ARC THE BALL. Unless he moves out of the way, then it ends up where his head was.
On the other hand, if you aim ahead of the guy, and your crosshair ends up on a rock 30 feet away, the ball will arc to hit that rock and sail over his head. If there's a wall directly behind him this shouldn't matter.
In sum, that's how I believe you use the sandman - like a sniper rifle, except you have to pay attention to the surrounding area around the head.
Also, balls will disappear if they touch certain textures, particularly the "loosely boarded" texture
Also, you can grab the enemies' balls, but you can't touch your teammates' balls
Paladin on
Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
But that's the point. A pair of scouts may not survive at the contested point B/C/D for long, but if they are capping E, that's going to cause at least two or three defenders to veer away from the combat to deal with them.
edit: I'd say go for it, palmer. $10 is a nice price and you'll get lots of playtime out of it.
That's why I dislike it so much. It forces it into a map where theres not really one focus of attention, causing skirmishes around the map.
I wasn't sure if I was going to pick it up anyways. If it was still $20 I don't think I would. The discount is making me reconsider. Basically, is it worth it for $10? Will I have fun? Haha.
So, a bunch of us who are normally City of Heroes players were playing Well last night. Rag and I got a little tired of the scout onslaught and so we were just hanging out on the second floor, busting up their team, hoping the swarm of scouts on our side might capitalize on it. But, of course, they didn't. So, we had an uber... figured we might as well use it.
I didn't survive the trip, but I got a great shot of Rag about to punch the crap out of the scout that just killed me.
Okay since all of you people who are bitching are magically missing the posts with reasonable arguments in them in favour of ridiculous strawmen how about this then.
It's that way because Valve made it that way and it's their game. They made their opinions on the unlocker clear and if you use it and get banned you have nobody to blame but yourself. If you don't want to play for the achievements or think the achievement system is so dumb that it's ruining the game for you then don't play. Nobody gives a shit how butthurt you are, so stop bitching holy shit.
And now I'm going home so I can play vidya games.
Right.
So "lolbecause" it is. Good job.
So where were my strawmen, again?
EDIT: Ah, I see we have a new thread title. Clever Girl.
ur gunna get banned
we can only hope. I don't care that if you used the unlocker or not, but its you that is keeping this argument alive mcdermott. and its ruining the mood of the thread. we've established that is dumb to argue about this as it is a matter of morals and such. now just move on.
Okay since all of you people who are bitching are magically missing the posts with reasonable arguments in them in favour of ridiculous strawmen how about this then.
It's that way because Valve made it that way and it's their game. They made their opinions on the unlocker clear and if you use it and get banned you have nobody to blame but yourself. If you don't want to play for the achievements or think the achievement system is so dumb that it's ruining the game for you then don't play. Nobody gives a shit how butthurt you are, so stop bitching holy shit.
And now I'm going home so I can play vidya games.
Right.
So "lolbecause" it is. Good job.
So where were my strawmen, again?
EDIT: Ah, I see we have a new thread title. Clever Girl.
ur gunna get banned
we can only hope. I don't care that if you used the unlocker or not, but its you that is keeping this argument alive mcdermott. and its ruining the mood of the thread. we've established that is dumb to argue about this as it is a matter of morals and such. now just move on.
Okay since all of you people who are bitching are magically missing the posts with reasonable arguments in them in favour of ridiculous strawmen how about this then.
It's that way because Valve made it that way and it's their game. They made their opinions on the unlocker clear and if you use it and get banned you have nobody to blame but yourself. If you don't want to play for the achievements or think the achievement system is so dumb that it's ruining the game for you then don't play. Nobody gives a shit how butthurt you are, so stop bitching holy shit.
And now I'm going home so I can play vidya games.
Right.
So "lolbecause" it is. Good job.
So where were my strawmen, again?
EDIT: Ah, I see we have a new thread title. Clever Girl.
ur gunna get banned
we can only hope. I don't care that if you used the unlocker or not, but its you that is keeping this argument alive mcdermott. and its ruining the mood of the thread. we've established that is dumb to argue about this as it is a matter of morals and such. now just move on.
Okay since all of you people who are bitching are magically missing the posts with reasonable arguments in them in favour of ridiculous strawmen how about this then.
It's that way because Valve made it that way and it's their game. They made their opinions on the unlocker clear and if you use it and get banned you have nobody to blame but yourself. If you don't want to play for the achievements or think the achievement system is so dumb that it's ruining the game for you then don't play. Nobody gives a shit how butthurt you are, so stop bitching holy shit.
And now I'm going home so I can play vidya games.
Right.
So "lolbecause" it is. Good job.
So where were my strawmen, again?
EDIT: Ah, I see we have a new thread title. Clever Girl.
ur gunna get banned
we can only hope. I don't care that if you used the that-which-must-not-be-named or not, but its you that is keeping this argument alive mcdermott. and its ruining the mood of the thread. we've established that is dumb to argue about this as it is a matter of morals and such. now just move on.
Okay since all of you people who are bitching are magically missing the posts with reasonable arguments in them in favour of ridiculous strawmen how about this then.
It's that way because Valve made it that way and it's their game. They made their opinions on the unlocker clear and if you use it and get banned you have nobody to blame but yourself. If you don't want to play for the achievements or think the achievement system is so dumb that it's ruining the game for you then don't play. Nobody gives a shit how butthurt you are, so stop bitching holy shit.
And now I'm going home so I can play vidya games.
Right.
So "lolbecause" it is. Good job.
So where were my strawmen, again?
EDIT: Ah, I see we have a new thread title. Clever Girl.
ur gunna get banned
we can only hope. I don't care that if you used the unlocker or not, but its you that is keeping this argument alive mcdermott. and its ruining the mood of the thread. we've established that is dumb to argue about this as it is a matter of morals and such. now just move on.
Okay since all of you people who are bitching are magically missing the posts with reasonable arguments in them in favour of ridiculous strawmen how about this then.
It's that way because Valve made it that way and it's their game. They made their opinions on the unlocker clear and if you use it and get banned you have nobody to blame but yourself. If you don't want to play for the achievements or think the achievement system is so dumb that it's ruining the game for you then don't play. Nobody gives a shit how butthurt you are, so stop bitching holy shit.
And now I'm going home so I can play vidya games.
Right.
So "lolbecause" it is. Good job.
So where were my strawmen, again?
EDIT: Ah, I see we have a new thread title. Clever Girl.
ur gunna get banned
we can only hope. I don't care that if you used the unlocker or not, but its you that is keeping this argument alive mcdermott. and its ruining the mood of the thread. we've established that is dumb to argue about this as it is a matter of morals and such. now just move on.
John is a bad man. The baseball bat taunt kill is the best type of kill in the game. I'm getting closer to timing it right out of the gates (around when the announcer says 3 but without anyone on the other side (no one taunt battles anymore!) I can't be sure) and the day I manage it shall be fantastic. Only downside is that, unlike the hadouken, it doesn't destroy buildings.
It's basically an uber that lasts for much less time (maybe 3 seconds?) and you are slower afterwards. I didn't notice whether or not it made me actually run faster while under its influence.
Anyone else noticing if you drink a BONK! and jump near an enemy SG it will still push you back? To me it seems as if those shots count as a miss, there should be no knock back.
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I hate it because it's a boring kill-fest that takes place in overly cramped quarters outside of point B.
yes actually
i wrote it in 9th grade
it's probably a bit too deep for the likes of this crew
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I'm getting a new laptop next week sometime and I haven't been able to play new PC games for quite sometime, so I am VERY excited to get back into it. Do you recommend I pick up TF2 for $10 right now while it's cheap and then install it on my new computer once I get it?
edit: I'd say go for it, palmer. $10 is a nice price and you'll get lots of playtime out of it.
If you're gonna buy it anyway, then absolutely.
I bet you do.
If you intend on getting it eventually anyway, yes.
Just register a steam account and buy it [ i'd install steam on what your using now just to make sure it pops up as owned but not-installed none the less, then just reinstall steam and install tf2 when you get your new PC ]
I suggest YES very much YES.
FPSs are a genre where multiplayer gameplay is primarily limited to direct competition with other players, and in the case of TF2 it is entirely limited to direct competition with other players. And they are a genre where, in the past, the playing field was level aside from player skill.
So in this way I'd say they are unique, or at least different from most other games (unlockable cars in multiplayer racing games were annoying as well).
I'll accept that TF2 is not the only game ever to go this route, but it is the first that I've played. If CoD4 uses unlockables I'd hate that too.
I'll also point out that when I purchased this game this was not the case. And it's not like I can sell it if I decide I don't like it.
And Steel is fucking awesome y'all need to shut it.
Sorry, I'll stop if everybody else does. I'll also go start a "bitching about unlockables" thread. I'm not trying to start shit, or lose us our TF2 thread again, or anything. I guess I just didn't see why this wasn't on-topic for the thread (well, until the title change).
Also, I think this is how sandman works:
1. You aim at a guy or piece of landscape.
2. Your position and the coordinates you're aiming at are put into ball arc calculation.
3. The ball will always end up at the exact coordinates your crosshairs were pointing at when you fired, provided it doesn't hit anything else.
This is why it's easier to hit long range rather than hitting strafers. As long as a person's head stays in the same place during the ball's flight, if you got a headshot, it'll always clonk him and YOU DON'T HAVE TO ARC THE BALL. Unless he moves out of the way, then it ends up where his head was.
On the other hand, if you aim ahead of the guy, and your crosshair ends up on a rock 30 feet away, the ball will arc to hit that rock and sail over his head. If there's a wall directly behind him this shouldn't matter.
In sum, that's how I believe you use the sandman - like a sniper rifle, except you have to pay attention to the surrounding area around the head.
Also, balls will disappear if they touch certain textures, particularly the "loosely boarded" texture
Also, you can grab the enemies' balls, but you can't touch your teammates' balls
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
That's why I dislike it so much. It forces it into a map where theres not really one focus of attention, causing skirmishes around the map.
And to the d00d who called me Palmer.. Boosh?
I didn't survive the trip, but I got a great shot of Rag about to punch the crap out of the scout that just killed me.
we can only hope. I don't care that if you used the unlocker or not, but its you that is keeping this argument alive mcdermott. and its ruining the mood of the thread. we've established that is dumb to argue about this as it is a matter of morals and such. now just move on.
and you can never let the balls touch. never
It's more than dumb, it's... off topic now!
Not over here, it isn't!
do not discuss that-which-must-not-be-named.
I'm only at 450 kills or so.
Thank you.
so i hear the spy gets a bofors cannon?
Ho ho ho
I know some people hate the Kritz but I seriously felt half naked without the option.
wait the kritz is bugged? what the fuck will i do for points now?
Pretty sure it's half a second between 3 and 4.
I'll take a look ASAP. Something is obviously bugged.
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Much love Job.
Dump!
And lastly, I think this the most epic screen I have ever taken.
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Yeah also it's been crashing and lagging randomly.
It makes you invincible to everything for a short period of time
/damn now I am the beaten one
Yeah and I get the feeling it's made for CTF maps but you can also use it to distract sentries while people destroy them which is a little cheap imo.