Well that was convenient, I was prepared to help too.
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edited March 2009
The chief, bored in Weapons command, engages the weapon safeties so they are unable to fire. He then aims the cannons in random directions, fighting imaginary Cylons in space making "pew pew" noises.
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TheMadjaiSir Madjai of SanSanMinnesotaRegistered Userregular
edited March 2009
If only.
The chief looks around and doesn't hear anything. He picks up the nearest comm link.
"Command, Weapons Control. Uhhh... Hi. Anyone seen any Cylons?"
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Despite the imminent Cylon attack, Racetrack and Skulls are able to find a source of water with the recon mission. (+1 Food)
Raiders fly into position to destroy the civilian ships.
Players and Turn Order
Thanatos - Gaius Baltar - Holding a press conference in the Press Room
jdarksun - Karl 'Helo' Agathon - Relaxing in the Hangar Deck
Osvik - Kara 'Starbuck' Thrace - Protecting the fleet in a Viper at 7 o'clock
Plutonium - God-Emperor William Adama - Sitting in a comfy chair in the President's Office FrostMist - Sharon 'Boomer' Valerii - Protecting the fleet in a Viper at at 5 o'clock
TheMadjai - Galen Tyrol - Knuckledragging in Weapons Control
Resources
Fuel 8. Food 8. Morale 9. Population 12.
Jump Track: 2/5 Jump Prep (jump impossible)
Boarding Party: Clear
Raptors: 4 In Reserve
Vipers: 4 in Reserve, 4 in Use
Nukes: 1
Galactica Damage: None
- Basestars are activated - 1d8=8, Command is damaged.
- One basestar and five raidersare placed at nine o'clock. - One heavy raider is placed at eleven o'clock.
- One civilian ship is placed at three o'clock. - One civilian ship and one viper are placed at five o'clock. - One civilian ship and one viper are placed at seven o'clock.
- Massive Deployment: Keep this card in play until the fleet jumps. Each time a basestar launches raiders or heavy raiders, it launches 1 additional ship of the same type.
Players and Turn Order
Thanatos - Gaius Baltar - Holding a press conference in the Press Room
jdarksun - Karl 'Helo' Agathon - Lounging in the Hangar Deck
Osvik - Kara 'Starbuck' Thrace - Protecting the fleet in a Viper at 7 o'clock
Plutonium - God-Emperor William Adama - Enjoying his comfy chair in the President's Office
FrostMist - Sharon 'Boomer' Valerii - Watching the civilians at 3 o'clock TheMadjai - Galen Tyrol - Knuckledragging in Weapons Control
Resources
Fuel 6. Food 8. Morale 9. Population 12.
Jump Track: 1/5 Jump Prep (jump impossible)
Boarding Party: Clear
Raptors: 4 In Reserve
Vipers: 3 in Reserve, 5 in Use
Nukes: 1
Galactica Damage: Command
Massive Deployment: Keep this card in play until the fleet jumps. Each time a basestar launches raiders or heavy raiders, it launches 1 additional ship of the same type.
These assaults are crazy. Also, shouldn't we should be at 6/8 fuel and 2/5 jump prep?
As long as we can repair enough, we can probably hold off the raiders long enough to get to Helo's turn, so he can pull the lever. Fix our girl up, Chief.
Did Boomer put the crises on the top or bottom? If she put it on the bottom, I have some tactics to scout us out some jump prep. If she leaves it on the top, well, we'll have better idea of what's going on.
Chief, my suggestion is to repair Command and XO me. I'll move to Weapons Control, fire off a pot shot, and XO you on my turn so you can shoot the shit out of the Raiders at 7 o'clock. We'll basically be at battlestations for future XOs from other people.
Shooting down individual raiders won't really help us at the moment. Cylon-wise, we're fairly safe as long as Chief and Baltar can repair anything from basestar hits.
We haven't taken any real resource losses. As long as we can get the jump prep, what we need to be worrying about is the destination deck - we want a destination 1 or 3 card, so we can either delay the sleeper phase and look for a 3 distance to start at 6/8, or jump right now to 5/8 and look for another 3 distance. What we don't want is to be stuck at 4/8 with two cylons and a sympathizer.
Repairing Command and then XO'ing Starbuck might be smart, if she can lay down a maximum firepower, and then scout - she didn't burn any high piloting or low tactics on the last crises. Scout the crises deck if Boomer sticks it on the bottom, Destination if it's on the top.
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TheMadjaiSir Madjai of SanSanMinnesotaRegistered Userregular
edited March 2009
I'm definitely moving to command and playing Engineering 1 - Repair to fix it.
My next action is a tough choice. I'm thinking about activating command and moving the vipers from 5 o'clock to 7 o'clock to back up Starbuck should raiders get activated on the next crisis card. If they do, and worse case happens, we're looking at a loss of at least 2 population, and possibly some fuel or morale. XO'ing Starbuck is a good plan if she's got a Maximum Firepower. Can I ask that in-game?
Either way, right now I've got 9 cards, and I'll need to discard down to 8, so I should play *something*.
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I'm definitely moving to command and playing Engineering 1 - Repair to fix it.
My next action is a tough choice. I'm thinking about activating command and moving the vipers from 5 o'clock to 7 o'clock to back up Starbuck should raiders get activated on the next crisis card. If they do, and worse case happens, we're looking at a loss of at least 2 population, and possibly some fuel or morale. XO'ing Starbuck is a good plan if she's got a Maximum Firepower. Can I ask that in-game?
Either way, right now I've got 9 cards, and I'll need to discard down to 8, so I should play *something*.
We probably have at least a few Evasive Maneuvers (given that we have a lot of pilots). And no, you're not allowed to ask anything specific about her hand. Realize that XOing Starbuck would get you at least two shots at those raiders. However, long-term, I think the Basestars are going to be a big threat, and I can XO you into getting four shots at the raiders. XOing me gets me into position to handle some of those.
So, short-term, XOing Starbuck is probably the better move. Long-term, though, getting someone to Weapons Control for shooting out those Basestars is vital, and giving us two shots for an XO instead of just one is hella helpful. Plus, you'll be getting four shots immediately next turn. It also depends on what we draw: if we end up with an "activate Basestars," and I've taken out weapons, or a "launch Raiders/Heavy Raiders," and I've taken out a hangar this turn, you'll be happy you XO'd me. If it's an "activate Raiders," you'll be happy you XO'd Starbuck.
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TheMadjaiSir Madjai of SanSanMinnesotaRegistered Userregular
Realize that XOing Starbuck would get you at least two shots at those raiders. However, long-term, I think the Basestars are going to be a big threat, and I can XO you into getting four shots at the raiders. XOing me gets me into position to handle some of those.
So, short-term, XOing Starbuck is probably the better move. Long-term, though, getting someone to Weapons Control for shooting out those Basestars is vital, and giving us two shots for an XO instead of just one is hella helpful. Plus, you'll be getting four shots immediately next turn.
I don't agree. Those basestars only hurt us right now if I can't repair as soon as they destroy. Which, given the high amount of leadership around here, I'd say is pretty likely. Like you said, long-term, the basestars are an issue, but I don't think that should be our concern right now.
Starbuck, Galactica Command. Make it rain.
Playing Leadership 1 - Executive Order on Starbuck.
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Helo's turn is coming up soon too, and we can probably get SP's on the roll and reroll if we need to jump at a risk.
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TheMadjaiSir Madjai of SanSanMinnesotaRegistered Userregular
edited March 2009
It would be awesome not to waste a turn throwing someone who's already been checked out into the brig while we're surrounded by ever-increasing Cylons. Can the posturing wait until we jump? Especially if we jump well, then you'll have a slightly better reason for brigging him?
Also, I second God-Admiral's plan to scout the destination deck for a 1 or a 3. Do we know if Boomer buried the scout she did?
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I'm getting the distinct feeling that Jdarksun might be a cylon. If I'm brigged, he's going to be the one to get the admiralty.
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TheMadjaiSir Madjai of SanSanMinnesotaRegistered Userregular
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I don't know. I was the only one who spoke out against the Admiral also becoming the President, but it happened and no one has since called for an impeachment. We've been kind of busy.
I agree with you that the powers should be split, but I'm saying there are better times to do it. I'm also saying that there aren't many quorum cards that could have been useful to us on his turn.
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Sorry about the recon taking so long, I had class all afternoon. I'm back now, though. I sent the PM the Hylianbunny, and I kept the crisis card on top. I'm not sure if I can reveal what it is, but it has what we need.
TheMadjaiSir Madjai of SanSanMinnesotaRegistered Userregular
edited March 2009
I haven't seen anyone say they wouldn't contribute to a skill check. And as I recall, the check is at like a 7 skill? You haven't initiated one, and haven't asked if anyone would oppose such a check. I think Adama might oppose it, but he also just might not contribute if he's going to begrudgingly hand over the office. Either way, the preferred prop of a martyr is a crucifix.
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It's in the cylon's interest to have us yelling at each other when there's two basestars and a lot of raiders out there. We've been kind of busy fighting off two assaults to worry about separation of political powers.
I haven't seen anyone say they wouldn't contribute to a skill check. And as I recall, the check is at like a 7 skill? You haven't initiated one, and haven't asked if anyone would oppose such a check. I think Adama might oppose it, but he also just might not contribute if he's going to begrudgingly hand over the office. Either way, the preferred prop of a martyr is a crucifix.
Both Baltar and I know that I'm not a cylon.
Look at it from my point of view: In the quorum hand now there are a lot of cards that can be dangerous in the hands of a cylon. I want the Quorum in my hands, if only because right now, it's the only place I know that it's out of the control of any cylons, with a side bonus of me being able to use it more effectively than everyone else here - The Pilots need to be flying, Baltar and Chief can be repairing, and in my eyes, Helo's untrustworthy because he's creating dissent and threatening to brig me.
From my point of view, any change in presidential power at this moment can only be neutral or negative, and as a player who wants a human victory, I have to oppose taking unnecessary risks or unnecessarily wasting skill cards.
Okay, so I just reread the thread. So far, since gaining the presidency, Adama has decided to throw away a nuke token instead of lose cards from his hand, drawn at least 3 quorum cards (maybe 4) and then not used any at all to help us out, and also suggested that we use our second nuke token right after saying that we should be completely fine if he can fish us out some jump prep.
Your argument about the quorum deck being safer in your hands because there is too much in there for a cylon to screw us over with would make sense if you had used any quorum cards yet. If you were worried about the quorum cards in the hand being used by a cylon, you would have used them to help us instead of stockpiling them and then refusing to give us the presidency.
I'm still wondering why we are taking his word that he is safe when Baltar, the guy who has double the chance of being a cylon of anyone else here, is vouching for him when he could very possibly be the other cylon on the ship as well.
Which is why we need to purposely fail this upcoming skill check, just to give the presidency to someone who will actually USE it.
I would be glad to use the Quorum, if only I could find somebody to use all these arrest orders and presidential pardons on.
I was fishing for some sort of assignment card, instead of a bunch of inspirational speeches. I found one on the last quorum draw, and haven't been able to play it yet. I haven't been able to use it yet because we're a bit busy fighting off cylon assaults.
Four raiders, four shots. There's a reason Starbuck is the best shot in or out of the cockpit.
Despite the threat of cylon attack, there is still trouble that needs to be dealt with aboard the Astral Queen, where hostages have been taken.
Crisis
Prisoner Revolt
Before I release my captives...I demand the immediate resignation of Laura Roslin and her ministers. - Tom Zarek
(Difficulty 11: Politics, Leadership, Tactics) Pass: No Effect 6+: -1 Population Fail: -1 Population, and the President chooses another player to receive the President title.
I can help a bit on this check as well if we go for it.
I really dont like the idea of losing a population just to force the President title to change hands though. We can to a fairly easy skill check in Administration for the same purpose and wont lose a resource.
It's losing a resource to 1) save both the cards we otherwise would have used on this skill check and the one to change the presidency (a net check of 18) and 2) save an action (no one has to activate Administration if we do it this way). I think it makes sense to do it this way.
Then again, I'm going to be discarding a bunch of cards if I don't pull an Engineering, Politics, or Leadership crisis on my turn and we decide not to go for this skill check. On the other hand, I'll probably be wiped out of cards if we do this skill check and I activate administration next turn.
I think we should let it fail. We have two players who have said they would be wiped of skill cards if we went for it, and we would lose 1 resource from the resource that we have the most of right now (12). I don't see any reason to attempt to pass the check.
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Piloting 1 - Evasive Maneuvers
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The chief looks around and doesn't hear anything. He picks up the nearest comm link.
"Command, Weapons Control. Uhhh... Hi. Anyone seen any Cylons?"
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Destiny Deck: Leadership 4, Engineering 1
Boomer: Piloting 3, Tactics 2, Tactics 3
Tyrol: None
Baltar: None
Helo: Tactics 1, Tactics 2, Piloting 1, Piloting 1
Starbuck: Piloting 1
God-Emperor Adama: None
6 + 8 - 4 - 1= 9: crisis passed. Update in a second.
Raiders fly into position to destroy the civilian ships.
Players and Turn Order
Thanatos - Gaius Baltar - Holding a press conference in the Press Room
jdarksun - Karl 'Helo' Agathon - Relaxing in the Hangar Deck
Osvik - Kara 'Starbuck' Thrace - Protecting the fleet in a Viper at 7 o'clock
Plutonium - God-Emperor William Adama - Sitting in a comfy chair in the President's Office
FrostMist - Sharon 'Boomer' Valerii - Protecting the fleet in a Viper at at 5 o'clock
TheMadjai - Galen Tyrol - Knuckledragging in Weapons Control
Resources
Fuel 8. Food 8. Morale 9. Population 12.
Jump Track: 2/5 Jump Prep (jump impossible)
Boarding Party: Clear
Raptors: 4 In Reserve
Vipers: 4 in Reserve, 4 in Use
Nukes: 1
Galactica Damage: None
Space
1 O'Clock: 1 Heavy Raider
3 O'Clock: 1 Civilian Ship, 3 Raiders
5 O'Clock: 1 Civilian Ship, 1 Viper, Boomer
7 O'Clock: 1 Civilian Ship, 1 Viper, Starbuck, 4 Raiders
9 O'Clock: Clear
11 O'Clock: 1 Basestar (Undamaged)
Galactica, Boomer. Tear 'em up.
(On a different note - I'll be back home in about three-four hours, so updates will be a lot more frequent. Thank you all for your patience.)
Also, I'm using Recon at the end of my turn, and I'm sending you a PM about another matter.
Crisis inbound...
CYLON SWARM
- Basestars are activated - 1d8=8, Command is damaged.
- One basestar and five raiders are placed at nine o'clock.
- One heavy raider is placed at eleven o'clock.
- One civilian ship is placed at three o'clock.
- One civilian ship and one viper are placed at five o'clock.
- One civilian ship and one viper are placed at seven o'clock.
- Massive Deployment: Keep this card in play until the fleet jumps. Each time a basestar launches raiders or heavy raiders, it launches 1 additional ship of the same type.
Players and Turn Order
Thanatos - Gaius Baltar - Holding a press conference in the Press Room
jdarksun - Karl 'Helo' Agathon - Lounging in the Hangar Deck
Osvik - Kara 'Starbuck' Thrace - Protecting the fleet in a Viper at 7 o'clock
Plutonium - God-Emperor William Adama - Enjoying his comfy chair in the President's Office
FrostMist - Sharon 'Boomer' Valerii - Watching the civilians at 3 o'clock
TheMadjai - Galen Tyrol - Knuckledragging in Weapons Control
Resources
Fuel 6. Food 8. Morale 9. Population 12.
Jump Track: 1/5 Jump Prep (jump impossible)
Boarding Party: Clear
Raptors: 4 In Reserve
Vipers: 3 in Reserve, 5 in Use
Nukes: 1
Galactica Damage: Command
Massive Deployment: Keep this card in play until the fleet jumps. Each time a basestar launches raiders or heavy raiders, it launches 1 additional ship of the same type.
Space
1 O'Clock: 1 Heavy Raider
3 O'Clock: 2 Civilian Ships, Boomer
5 O'Clock: 2 Civilian Ships, 2 Vipers
7 O'Clock: 2 Civilian Ships, 2 Viper, Starbuck, 4 Raiders
9 O'Clock: 1 Basestar (Undamaged), 5 Raiders
11 O'Clock: 1 Basestar (Undamaged), 1 Heavy Raider
Chief, what would you like to do?
As long as we can repair enough, we can probably hold off the raiders long enough to get to Helo's turn, so he can pull the lever. Fix our girl up, Chief.
Did Boomer put the crises on the top or bottom? If she put it on the bottom, I have some tactics to scout us out some jump prep. If she leaves it on the top, well, we'll have better idea of what's going on.
We haven't taken any real resource losses. As long as we can get the jump prep, what we need to be worrying about is the destination deck - we want a destination 1 or 3 card, so we can either delay the sleeper phase and look for a 3 distance to start at 6/8, or jump right now to 5/8 and look for another 3 distance. What we don't want is to be stuck at 4/8 with two cylons and a sympathizer.
Repairing Command and then XO'ing Starbuck might be smart, if she can lay down a maximum firepower, and then scout - she didn't burn any high piloting or low tactics on the last crises. Scout the crises deck if Boomer sticks it on the bottom, Destination if it's on the top.
My next action is a tough choice. I'm thinking about activating command and moving the vipers from 5 o'clock to 7 o'clock to back up Starbuck should raiders get activated on the next crisis card. If they do, and worse case happens, we're looking at a loss of at least 2 population, and possibly some fuel or morale. XO'ing Starbuck is a good plan if she's got a Maximum Firepower. Can I ask that in-game?
Either way, right now I've got 9 cards, and I'll need to discard down to 8, so I should play *something*.
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So, short-term, XOing Starbuck is probably the better move. Long-term, though, getting someone to Weapons Control for shooting out those Basestars is vital, and giving us two shots for an XO instead of just one is hella helpful. Plus, you'll be getting four shots immediately next turn. It also depends on what we draw: if we end up with an "activate Basestars," and I've taken out weapons, or a "launch Raiders/Heavy Raiders," and I've taken out a hangar this turn, you'll be happy you XO'd me. If it's an "activate Raiders," you'll be happy you XO'd Starbuck.
I don't agree. Those basestars only hurt us right now if I can't repair as soon as they destroy. Which, given the high amount of leadership around here, I'd say is pretty likely. Like you said, long-term, the basestars are an issue, but I don't think that should be our concern right now.
Starbuck, Galactica Command. Make it rain.
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Also, I second God-Admiral's plan to scout the destination deck for a 1 or a 3. Do we know if Boomer buried the scout she did?
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I agree with you that the powers should be split, but I'm saying there are better times to do it. I'm also saying that there aren't many quorum cards that could have been useful to us on his turn.
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Starbuck, you heard the chief.
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Both Baltar and I know that I'm not a cylon.
Look at it from my point of view: In the quorum hand now there are a lot of cards that can be dangerous in the hands of a cylon. I want the Quorum in my hands, if only because right now, it's the only place I know that it's out of the control of any cylons, with a side bonus of me being able to use it more effectively than everyone else here - The Pilots need to be flying, Baltar and Chief can be repairing, and in my eyes, Helo's untrustworthy because he's creating dissent and threatening to brig me.
From my point of view, any change in presidential power at this moment can only be neutral or negative, and as a player who wants a human victory, I have to oppose taking unnecessary risks or unnecessarily wasting skill cards.
Your argument about the quorum deck being safer in your hands because there is too much in there for a cylon to screw us over with would make sense if you had used any quorum cards yet. If you were worried about the quorum cards in the hand being used by a cylon, you would have used them to help us instead of stockpiling them and then refusing to give us the presidency.
I'm still wondering why we are taking his word that he is safe when Baltar, the guy who has double the chance of being a cylon of anyone else here, is vouching for him when he could very possibly be the other cylon on the ship as well.
Which is why we need to purposely fail this upcoming skill check, just to give the presidency to someone who will actually USE it.
I was fishing for some sort of assignment card, instead of a bunch of inspirational speeches. I found one on the last quorum draw, and haven't been able to play it yet. I haven't been able to use it yet because we're a bit busy fighting off cylon assaults.
1d8=6
1d8=8
1d8=5
Four raiders, four shots. There's a reason Starbuck is the best shot in or out of the cockpit.
Despite the threat of cylon attack, there is still trouble that needs to be dealt with aboard the Astral Queen, where hostages have been taken.
Prisoner Revolt
Before I release my captives...I demand the immediate resignation of Laura Roslin and her ministers. - Tom Zarek
(Difficulty 11: Politics, Leadership, Tactics)
Pass: No Effect
6+: -1 Population
Fail: -1 Population, and the President chooses another player to receive the President title.
<activate heavy raiders>
<jump prep>
I really dont like the idea of losing a population just to force the President title to change hands though. We can to a fairly easy skill check in Administration for the same purpose and wont lose a resource.
Then again, I'm going to be discarding a bunch of cards if I don't pull an Engineering, Politics, or Leadership crisis on my turn and we decide not to go for this skill check. On the other hand, I'll probably be wiped out of cards if we do this skill check and I activate administration next turn.