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(R) Sen. Arlen Specter is switching parties
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Oh, 2016 primary. I thought he was talking 2012.
I also thought I was missing something.
Biden does have his awesome moments, but I would prefer we get some future president material in the VP slot if possible next time around. Democrats are masters of turning imminent victory into defeat, so it would be best if Obama could try to give us one more guaranteed election after his 2 terms.
Assuming he doesn't fuck it up. Looking pretty good so far though.
Who...exactly...are you talking about, Couscous?
Well, there's always Clinton. Sec o' State is the traditional heir apparent.
But, again, it's not common for the VP to become/stay President through elections. The only modern examples of it would be Bush the Greater and Truman. I'd much rather keep Biden on for all 8 years and have another open primary with somebody tacitly backed by Obama. So long as it doesn't last 2 years again, that is.
Yeah srsly. I don't think it's possible to be less divisive nowadays without being so utterly bland and ineffective you avoid offending anyone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton
If Obama didn't exist, she probably would have won the nomination in 2008. Secretary of State is a position of actual power and nicely fills out the resume. She will be less than 70 by the 2016.
You can see why Specter left.
I'm still saying she's gonna be way too old to get the nom in 2016
LBJ counts if Truman counts. Both ascended, both won a term in their own right. Nixon nearly beat Kennedy (and may have actually lost on some Florida 2000-esque shenanigans) and eventually did win two terms of his own.
She'll be too old, same as Biden. 2016 is completely up in the air. I mean, hell, did anyone else on this forum know who Obama was back before 2004 beside me and the couple other Chicagoans?
69 isn't "too old" today. Women live longer, life expectancy keeps increasing, and Hillary is remarkably well preserved. Unless someone better (read: new) comes along in the interim, it's her and Biden and she has the inside track.
I wonder if there's any chance Howard Dean might give it another shot?
And 2008 was supposed to be Hillary's coronation. Nobody here is prescient enough to pick the GOP's nominee for 2012, let alone who're going to be heading the packs in 2016. It's a useless exercise.
Virtually zero chance of that. He will be 13 years removed from office in 2016, the same age as Clinton and Biden, and his defining moment will always be his "YAHHHH!" gaffe, at least in the public consciousness.
I'm not claiming prescience of any sort. I'm saying that Hillary is the most likely candidate as of right this minute, and the suggestion that she's "too old" is ridiculous. However her advantage can, and quite possibly will, change at some point in the next eight years. But until that happens, the money, experience, and media presence all suggest that she's the favorite.
I hope it's André Carson, Michael Bennet, Keith Ellison, Ben Cardin (too old, though), Russ Feingold (we like him, right?), or Barney Frank, simply to see the religious right go absolutely batshit insane.
Have we discussed that yet
Because I was unaware of that bit of this story
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Indeed, we've gotten well off-topic.
Nate Silver's take on Specter's new allegiance.
And yes, it would e awesome.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
A majority of modern Presidents have been southpaws, actually.
Add Susan Collins to any part of that ticket and we have ourselves a hat trick!
Are you talking about this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1eAZD8RVG0
Actually, Schweitzer would be really hard for the GOP to counter in some ways, as well as pretty much being an absolute nightmare for the NRA to handle. Honestly, he'd potentially have more trouble from the left than the right.
Also, he's been endorsed by the NRA before.
Hence why the NRA would have a massive problem - they would be caught in a position where they would have no good options.
I'm not so worried now. While the ex-urbanites are conservative compared to New Yorkers or Bostonians, they're still more liberal than the crowd the GOP goes for (even before Obama won)
It took them a while to endorse McCain. They're not quite wedded to Repub candidates.
But for those of us who don't whittle away our time betting on horse racing, it's oh so much fun!!! :P
See I thought he just switched parties before, turns out he gave a big speech about how much that party is driven by crazy far right dudes
I loved seeing all the Republicans trying to run damage control on it, because their tone changed dramatically once he started saying negative things about the party
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If thats not insane I don't know what is.
Can't call them out on promoting flip-flopping. They used that tactic in 2004 to win the big election already.