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Discussing JAIL

RamiusRamius Joined: July 19, 2000Administrator, ClubPA admin
edited February 2004 in H.Q. Reception Desk
I've seen far too many posts in the last 12 hours looking for an explination about JAIL. So I am now here to discuss it with you. I will probably do one in RP as well, but I know most of you won't come over an participate. So...


Jail is the combination of a number of ideas that have been thrown around in RP over the last few months. The idea is:

1) Since jail is less serious than banning, we can use it for slighter infractions in order to get a point across that we are serious that we think you need to adjust your foruming a bit.

2) Because jail prevents the user from actually committing the most frequent bannable offenses, we can jail people first, providing them a second chance when they fuck up. The mods can see history on jailing (unlike banning) so we will know how often you have gotten into trouble over the last x months and be able to make a better decision if you should be permabanned.

3) because jail is quick and easy ( button appears next to every post ), and applies retroactively, we should be faster than ever in blocking goatse and such things.

4) Because we get occasional complaints about lack of mod coverage, there will be deputy mods appointed who will have the ability to jail users. They wil not have the ability to un-jail users, only mods will. Deputies will not be members of the mod forum. They will not have access to IP addresses or any other mod functions.

5) It is my intention to give a variety of forumers the opportunity to be deputy mods. They obviously don't have the power of persuasion that a mod has, but we will pick people that we think exemplify good foruming, as an example to others of what it means to be a good forumer.


A jailed user has the following: avatar is replaced with the jailed user icon, and their title is locked. Signature is removed from all posts. Posts are constrained to prevent H-Scroll and V-Scroll damage. bbcode and smiley's are disabled. The quote button is taken away. They can only post once every 2 minutes instead of every 50 seconds.

Questions? Anything I left out?

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  • Jedi RenegadeJedi Renegade Registered User regular
    edited January 2004
    I'd like to think I'm a good forumer, but maybe not...

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  • boddahboddah Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2004
    Johnny Smash is in jail.

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  • JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited January 2004
    No questions from me, sounds an excellent idea.

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  • Johnny SmashJohnny Smash Tucson, AZRegistered User regular
    edited January 2004
    Yeah, being in jail is really annoying.

    shoe 4 deputy

    there, I'm the first one to use that phrase

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  • CrandleCrandle regular
    edited January 2004
    Would deputies be able to post in the banned/jailed thread to record who they'd jailed?

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2004
    i am all for this :^:

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  • Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited January 2004
    Cool. Sounds like a good idea.

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  • RamiusRamius Joined: July 19, 2000 Administrator, ClubPA admin
    edited January 2004
    oh, and as it is with modship, the best way to assure you won't become a deputy is to ask for it repeatedly.

    If someone asks nicely once, that is not such a bad thing. If they ask more than that, they are practically assured to be passed over.

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  • Darkness MundusDarkness Mundus Registered User regular
    edited January 2004
    I was wondering why his quotes were so jacked.
    I was going to start crackin skulls.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2004
    EDIT: can we have a list somewhere of who the deputies are?

    i wouldn't mind being one myself

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  • Jedi RenegadeJedi Renegade Registered User regular
    edited January 2004
    Ramius wrote:
    oh, and as it is with modship, the best way to assure you won't become a deputy is to ask for it repeatedly.

    If someone asks nicely once, that is not such a bad thing. If they ask more than that, they are practically assured to be passed over.

    Good to know I'm not TOTALLY out of the running then. And I think this is a very good idea, so long as people don't whine about being jailed and then get banned; it'd be pointless, you could just skip the middle step.

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  • RamiusRamius Joined: July 19, 2000 Administrator, ClubPA admin
    edited January 2004
    boddah wrote:
    Johnny Smash is in jail.
    yeah, I saw that. Should I let him out? I really don't have the code in for it yet, but I could do it manually in the database.

    I saw when you did it, he was seriously begging for it, so don't worry about that.

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  • Johnny SmashJohnny Smash Tucson, AZRegistered User regular
    edited January 2004
    This sounds pretty stupid coming from the guy in jail,

    but i wanna be a deputy.

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  • DranoDrano __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2004
    Look guys I'm in jail too.

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  • boddahboddah Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2004
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    Yeah, you should let poor Johnny out, if you can.

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  • Darkness MundusDarkness Mundus Registered User regular
    edited January 2004
    Poor double-posting admin.

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  • CrandleCrandle regular
    edited February 2012
    .

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  • MulysaSemproniusMulysaSempronius but also susie nyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2004
    Ramius wrote:
    5) It is my intention to give a variety of forumers the opportunity to be deputy mods. They obviously don't have the power of persuasion that a mod has, but we will pick people that we think exemplify good foruming, as an example to others of what it means to be a good forumer.
    well, damn. and here i was, trying to sneak my way into a modship by being a bit of a troll. but you're looking for good forumers? i'll never even get a deputyship now.

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  • EquivokeEquivoke Registered User new member
    edited January 2004
    If enough people are put in jail could they start a gang? I'm at a loss for good gang names...

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  • FinnMcCumigganFinnMcCumiggan Registered User regular
    edited January 2004
    deputies should have sheriff's badges next to their names.

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  • DranoDrano __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2004
    Haha. I was just lying.

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  • CrandleCrandle regular
    edited January 2004
    Equivoke wrote:
    If enough people are put in jail could they start a gang? I'm at a loss for good gang names...

    Crips/Bloods

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  • Darkness MundusDarkness Mundus Registered User regular
    edited January 2004
    Ramius wrote:
    5) It is my intention to give a variety of forumers the opportunity to be deputy mods. They obviously don't have the power of persuasion that a mod has, but we will pick people that we think exemplify good foruming, as an example to others of what it means to be a good forumer.
    well, damn. and here i was, trying to sneak my way into a modship by being a bit of a troll. but you're looking for good forumers? i'll never even get a deputyship now.

    You were being a troll? When?

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  • Johnny SmashJohnny Smash Tucson, AZRegistered User regular
    edited January 2004
    Me and Drano are in opposing jail gangs. My gang is called "the sharp green fire dogs". The gang sign is the peace sign upside down. It's really awesome.

    edit: drano tricked me :(

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  • BogeyBogey I'm back, baby! Santa Monica, CAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited January 2004
    Are people in Jail allowed conjugal visits? :P

    Btw, I'm looking forward to giving this idea a shot.

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  • boddahboddah Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2004
    Ramius wrote:
    5) It is my intention to give a variety of forumers the opportunity to be deputy mods. They obviously don't have the power of persuasion that a mod has, but we will pick people that we think exemplify good foruming, as an example to others of what it means to be a good forumer.
    well, damn. and here i was, trying to sneak my way into a modship by being a bit of a troll. but you're looking for good forumers? i'll never even get a deputyship now.

    audio.gifSUSIE

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  • JinnJinn Registered User regular
    edited January 2004
    Fun.

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  • CainCain Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2004
    Janson wrote:
    No questions from me, sounds an excellent idea.

    Pretty much exactly what I planned on saying. Also, being a Deputy, if that's what the actual name is going to be, sounds bitchin'. Lately, since I just got broadband (its faster, but now I don't have to get offline so other people can use the phone), I've been spending several hours a day here, so this Deputy deal seems to have come at just the right time.

    :wink:

    I'm just kidding... :wink:

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  • boddahboddah Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2004
    I think Kolchak would be a good deputy.

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  • AnimeEdAnimeEd Registered User new member
    edited January 2004
    it's not suppose to be a club you guys

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited January 2004
    This is my humble application for deputyship.

    Understood if it's turned down, but I'd like a chance to prove myself as a good forumer.

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  • Mr_SnuffleMr_Snuffle Registered User regular
    edited January 2004
    Jail hey... sounds okay to me

    Good idea

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  • FinnMcCumigganFinnMcCumiggan Registered User regular
    edited January 2004
    boddah wrote:
    I think Kolchak would be a good deputy.

    I second this. Same with bogey.

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  • Johnny SmashJohnny Smash Tucson, AZRegistered User regular
    edited January 2004
    Kolchak would be a great deputy. [size=OHWAITICANTUSEBBCOED]Or a mod.[/SIZE]

    I second boddah's nomination.

    edit: fuc u finn

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  • JackMaster SpazJackMaster Spaz Registered User regular
    edited January 2004
    I think that I, JackMaster Spaz would be a great deputy.

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  • CrandleCrandle regular
    edited January 2004
    So, since Ramius didn't answer my question before: will deputies be able to note who they've jailed in the "Banned" thread in Ramius' Place, or will mods have to do it? Because I assume that deputies won't be able to post in locked threads.

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  • JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited January 2004
    boddah wrote:
    I think Kolchak would be a good deputy.

    I second this. Same with bogey.

    I third Kolchak and second Bogey ;)

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  • As7As7 Registered User regular
    edited January 2004
    Arsenic for Sherrif!

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  • MulysaSemproniusMulysaSempronius but also susie nyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2004
    boddah wrote:
    Ramius wrote:
    5) It is my intention to give a variety of forumers the opportunity to be deputy mods. They obviously don't have the power of persuasion that a mod has, but we will pick people that we think exemplify good foruming, as an example to others of what it means to be a good forumer.
    well, damn. and here i was, trying to sneak my way into a modship by being a bit of a troll. but you're looking for good forumers? i'll never even get a deputyship now.

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    stop mocking me, mr. *shakes fist*

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  • GarthorGarthor Registered User regular
    edited January 2004
    I am asking for permission to ask for permission to ask for permission to ask for permission to ask for permission to ask for permission to ask for permission to ask for permission to ask for permission to ask for permission to ask for permission to ask for permission to ask for permission to ask to be a deputy.

    See, I can continue that for a while, and it'll technically not be breaking the no-asking-for-deputy-multiple-times rule thing.

    But I won't.

    Because I'm a good boy.

    Oh, and Ramius, it's cheating if you use your administrative powers to delete your double post. I believe that calls for a jailing.

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