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The Israeli Lobby and the Overuse of the Anti-Semite Card
SyphonBlue
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You know, I'm not sure we ought to be throwing around that word so casually. I mean, it's somewhat like the n word, right?
It is but as half-Jew myself I only use it around my fellow kykes, kyke please, so you can't use it. Because you know us Jews don't deserve a Jewish history month as we only suffered through slavery twice and a holocaust. I guess our minority is less interesting in the US. Sorry about the tangent but I hate when other minorities still play the victim.
I know you struggle mightily with rather basic concepts, but you do realize the US never enslaved Jews, nor did we perpetrate the Holocaust, nor have Jews in the US been denied the basic dignity of their own culture by having their names, histories, and countries of origin taken away from them. So yeah, blacks get a "history month" - I suggest you cry about it.
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eh, you have my permission
Personally, I feel like the best way to deal with the word kike is to have people say it until it loses all meaning.
I subscribe to a magazine called HEEB. If there was a KIKE or a SHEENY, I'd probably subscribe to those too.
for the record, kike is probably one of the most absurd racial slurs ever. it's origin comes from Jewish immigrants who refused to write an X for a signature on their immigration papers (because it was too close to a cross), and instead insisted on drawing a circle, or "kikel"
The opposite is true of many other minorities in the U.S., including blacks and hispanics.
Israel!=Jews. Two different issues there.
Evander, I think I'll continue to not use the word. I've never heard it used in any way that wasn't derogatory.
You sound JUST like Glenn Beck.
Fair enough. My point was more to say, though that "kike" really has lost most of its derision over time, where as the n-word still holds a lot of power for many people (although, personally, I believe that the best way to deal with the n-word is to overuse it until it's meaningless as well. I'm not going to be the first to pick it up, though, nor do I want to be.)
When?
I'm quoting this for posterity.
Not only does Thantos not know the difference between pro-Israel and pro-Jewish, but he is accusing Jews hating non-Jews to be a far greater problem than people hating Jews.
Just like the "Reverse Holocaust", I guess.
And that incident, a couple weeks ago, when that Jewish guy tried to go shoot up the "Gentile Museum"
No, I accused you of being insane for preaching a load of "reverse racism" bullshit, just with Jews replaced for black people.
The correlation between these seems pretty obvious.
Also, I got called a Nazi for signing a petition to get the city of Seattle to divest from Israel, which is something I don't particularly appreciate. It's not my fault that the ADL has hopelessly intertwined themselves with the interests of Israel to the point that they're virtually indistinguishable from AIPAC. It's fucking bullshit, and every time I hear the Jewish lobby try to play the "persecuted minority" card, I throw up in my mouth a little, given the disproportionate number of Jewish people in power in our society.
if you want to correlate them, then anti-Israel becomes Anti-Jewish.
Which is something that I don't PERSONALLY believe, and also something that I know Thanatos doesn't want to put out there.
Also, as far as Jews being "over represented in government", you can't blame us for that. Were only a couple percent of the population. SOME ONE is voting for us.
And there's a black president now, so anti-black racism is ALSO over, right?
And by "crying" I mean "retaliating in an equally excessive show of force".
Better yet, tell THIS man:
I thought the "How dare other minorities play the victim card, we have it WORSE" mindset was something unique to my people.
There were around 1400 incidents of anti-semitism in the U.S. last year; down from the recent peak of around 1850 in 2004. Even assuming every single one of those incidents resulted in an injury or death (they didn't), you'd need over three years of that to get up to the number of people that Israel injured or killed in under four weeks in Palestine between December 2008 and January 2009.
So, yeah, when that sort of policy leads to that magnitude of slaughter, I'm going to say it's worse than the comparatively minor prejudice Jews put up with in this country.
this isn't that
this is the "reverse racism" card, just with special guest "Jews" filling in for "Blacks"
Right.
Because being called a name would prevent an ACTUAL workable peace plan.
Name calling is CLEARLY worse than shooting people.
it's not really an OP. this was split out after Thany started making his claims that name calling from a minority WITHIN a minority is some how worse than hate-crime.
And I'm goddamned well not going to take it back just because you think I'm being unfair; I'm being perfectly fucking fair, you just don't like that I'm right.
I still can't believe it.
Yeah, I'm gonna need to see some citation of this.
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and he is articulating it by calling it "worse" and a "greater problem".
I'd be the FIRST to admit that many jews are too quick to play the race card. That DOESN'T serve a huge problem, though, in the way that ACTUAL hate crimes do.
Israel. :P
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It's a problem when highly powerful politicians use it.
That sounds very much like it's heading into "Jews control the world" territory, by which I mean crazytown. Is there any evidence that shows Jews are disproportionally represented among the successful?
The Israelis maintaining an apartheid state and slaughtering Palestinians while denying them any sort of standards of living is worse.
And that "namecalling" leads to a culture in Washington that is afraid to address the Isrealis as the racist, genocidal motherfuckers they are.
You are holding ALL Jews responsible for the actions of a minority WITHIN a minority.
I DO NOT say this lightly, but you, sir, ARE an Anti-Semite. When you start declaring that name calling is a greater issue to this nation than ACTUAL crimes which are occurring, or start implying conspiracy (what else it the point of bringing up "the number of Jews in power"?) you are tipping your hand.
The great irony being that the majority of Jews are actually incredibly liberal, just like you. You're unwilling to accept them as allies, though, because a couple of Jews looked at you funny, and you were offended.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1272/is_2703_132/ai_111403491/
the problem is how small a sample Jews are, comparetively. it's like comparing apples and grapes.