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The Android Thread - Oh hey, Google is pretty cool.

VistiVisti Registered User regular
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So, I thought we need a general thread for this. In case you've been living in a cave somewhere or possibly under a rock or even in a cave beneath a rock:

What is Android

From Android's own site:

Introducing Android
Androidâ„¢ delivers a complete set of software for mobile devices: an operating system, middleware and key mobile applications. The Android Software Development Kit (SDK) is now available.

Open
Android was built from the ground-up to enable developers to create compelling mobile applications that take full advantage of all a handset has to offer. It was built to be truly open. For example, an application can call upon any of the phone's core functionality such as making calls, sending text messages, or using the camera, allowing developers to create richer and more cohesive experiences for users. Android is built on the open Linux Kernel. Furthermore, it utilizes a custom virtual machine that was designed to optimize memory and hardware resources in a mobile environment. Android is open source; it can be liberally extended to incorporate new cutting edge technologies as they emerge. The platform will continue to evolve as the developer community works together to build innovative mobile applications.

All applications are created equal
Android does not differentiate between the phone's core applications and third-party applications. They can all be built to have equal access to a phone's capabilities providing users with a broad spectrum of applications and services. With devices built on the Android Platform, users are able to fully tailor the phone to their interests. They can swap out the phone's homescreen, the style of the dialer, or any of the applications. They can even instruct their phones to use their favorite photo viewing application to handle the viewing of all photos.

Breaking down application boundaries
Android breaks down the barriers to building new and innovative applications. For example, a developer can combine information from the web with data on an individual's mobile phone -- such as the user's contacts, calendar, or geographic location -- to provide a more relevant user experience. With Android, a developer can build an application that enables users to view the location of their friends and be alerted when they are in the vicinity giving them a chance to connect.
Fast & easy application development

Android provides access to a wide range of useful libraries and tools that can be used to build rich applications. For example, Android enables developers to obtain the location of the device, and allows devices to communicate with one another enabling rich peer-to-peer social applications. In addition, Android includes a full set of tools that have been built from the ground up alongside the platform providing developers with high productivity and deep insight into their applications.

Which Phones Does Android Run On


The HTC Dream, AKA The G1:
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The HTC Sapphire AKA The HTC Magic / G2
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The HTC Hero
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The Samsung I7500
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And it has been hacked onto a number of existing devices as shown by this wiki-stolen list:
* The Openmoko phones (Neo FreeRunner and Neo 1973) have limited support since Google's release of the Android source code on 21 October 2008.[47] As of 4 November 2008 (2008 -11-04)[update], the whole source stack compiles, with the kernel, user interface and most applications working, but telephony, SMS, suspend/resume and wifi, which rely on lower level hardware features, are not fully working.[48][49] In early 2009 Cupcake images were demonstrated and available as flashable images.[50]
* Motorola A1200 Ming[51]
* HTC Kaiser: a port is in progress, not all features work at the moment[52]
* HTC Vogue[53]
* HTC Touch Diamond: not all functions work (including Wifi)[54][citation needed]
* HTC Touch Pro[55]
* Nokia N810[56][57]
* Nokia 770[58]
* Asus EEEPC 701[citation needed]
* Asus EEEPC 1000H[59]
* Touch Book from Always Innovating[60]
* Dell Axim x51v [61]
* HTC Touch HD : similar to the Touch Diamond, not all features work such as wifi and audio during voice calls[62]
* Samsung Omnia: basic functions (no camera or wifi, occasional blockage, needs to be installed on an SD card) [63]
* Sharp Zaurus: Running basic version [64]

Android Market

I guess some recommended apps should go here.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Android is the best thing ever and I love it.

    Good apps:

    Twidroid - the best Twitter app
    Movie Finder - the best movie showtimes app, has direct links to IMDb pages, trailers, and stuff
    Places Directory - Google's Places Directory shows you places around you!
    Ringdroid - cut 30 seconds from any song on your phone and it's a ringtone! for free!
    Sky Map - shows you what the stars in the sky are called and is really neat because it works with the compass in your phone!
    PhoneFlicks - manage your Netflix account on your phone!
    ShopSavvy - best barcode scanning price comparison app on the market!

    and don't forget widgets! I like the Retro Clock widget, the Weather Widgets, and the BBC News widget

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Retro clock widget is a goddamn necessity - The original clock is horrible. Similarly, Backgrounds is key to making your desktop look good. Also, I'm pretty impressed with the quality in Movies by Flixster and it sort of makes me wonder why a good video playing app hasn't come out yet. Does PhoneFlicks show trailers?

    Another completely need-to-have app is TasKiller or equivalent. The open apps really start piling up and I find it a good practice to just open up TasKiller and nuke everything with the big red button after I'm done doing stuff. Paid version apparently lets you kill everything as a one-click shortcut. Sounds handy.

    I'm also using Facebook Lite, which is mostly just a tiny browser that opens Facebook with special menu items for it, but its handy.

    Then I use AndNav2 a lot, because it lets you download maps from your PC, so you can actually use the GPS while offline.. I don't know why none of the others include this. It was a lifesaver for me. Features turn-by-turn navigation and voice. 2 isn't on the market yet, but one can get it from their site.


    Also www.cyrket.com let's you browse the market from your PC. Neat! Which brings me to another awesome app.. or awesome concept, because there are a lot of apps like it. I use ixmat scanner to scan qr barcodes that can launch websites, smses and stuff by you scanning an image with the camera. There's one on every app on Cyrket, so you can just scan the barcode and get the straight download link..

    I had the Hero ROM on my Magic for a while and now I can't wait for multi-touch and flash in the browser to get to the Magic "natively".

    Edit: I could drop a few Hero ROM screenshots from my Magic a bit later if anybody's interested. The UI is neat, but it changes how you use the phone a lot. No menu when sliding your finger up, for example. Now it's a button press.

    2nd edit: Setting up screenshotting is a little tricky, but once it's up it's pretty cool.
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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Anybody who uses Facebook should check out the new app Bloo, which is the first native Facebook app for Android. It costs $1.49, but it is really pretty and works great.

    Developer's website
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_K76rVIB-o

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Uh, I was looking that the other day, certainly does seem nice, but I'm only seeing paid apps through a rooted Magic, so I'm not too sure about purchasing anything. For some reason, only free apps show up in Europe at the time being.

    Do you have a G1, Centipede?

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Yeah, I have a G1 in the U.S.

    Only free apps in Europe? That seems kind of odd.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I like how all the non-G1 phones came out like 2 months after I signed on with Verizon.

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I don't know if they're really different enough to be bothered by it. I mean, I'm sort of wanting the jack on the Hero, but meh.

    The 100 megs of RAM don't really seem to make much of a difference in app performance, so it's mostly going to determine if you get the Sense upgrade or not. And I wasn't too fond of it. I hope they make it optional.

    Also, was it Verizon that got the gimped Magic or was that Vodafone?

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Only free apps in Europe? That seems kind of odd.

    Same thing with Rogers, currently.

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  • donhonkdonhonk Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I sort of want an Android phone, my next phone is probably gonna be an HTC Touch Pro 2. I want a hardware keyboard, but only the G1 has that... Why cant Android run on the Touch Pro 2?! Damn you HTC.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Theoretically, Android could run on the Touch Pro 2, if you're hacker enough.

    Are you a bad enough dude to install Android on the Touch Pro 2?

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Wi-fi and a few other things wouldn't work, but it is technically possible.

    I was pretty sure that I'd miss having a physical keyboard, but the magic really impressed me. I've written every post in this thread on it.

    Oh, and it's pretty easy to enable paid apps anyway, so I'm not that bothered.

    Anyone else rooted their phone?

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Visti wrote: »
    Anyone else rooted their phone?

    Yep, I've been running Cyanogen's builds for a while, they're quite nice.

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Fats wrote: »
    Visti wrote: »
    Anyone else rooted their phone?

    Yep, I've been running Cyanogen's builds for a while, they're quite nice.

    Those looked nice! I wish somebody would make a ROM for Magic (Rogers/Scandinavia) that was optimized for speed instead of just putting more crap in it.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I think I'm going to grab the HTC Magic when T-Mobile starts offering it here.

    Also, whoever at T-mo decided to rename it the "myTouch 3G" should be fired, and maybe shot. That is probably the dumbest name I can think of. I mean, "HTC Magic" is kind of a dumb name, but that is just eye-throbbingly dumb.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Yeah, try having to sell it to people.

    "It's called the what?"

    "The myTouch."

    "What about your touch?"

    "No no, your touch."

    "My touch?"

    "Exactly."

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    The Last.FM app has quickly become one of my goto apps for showing the Android capabilities off. I mean skymap is nice and such, but it's the little things that count. I was at a bar yesterday and one of my friends asked what it could do that the iPhone couldn't and I showed him the last.FM app with multitasking. Music playing, switched to bloo - when the track changed, the status bar rolls over, displaying the info of the new track for a second and there's a constant notification showing what's playing. Really awesome multitasking.

    Of course, I always preface this the same way I do Linux. If you're interested in trying to push stuff to the limit once in a while, it's so for you. If you're not that bothered, it would still be a great set, but other stuff would be just as good, possibly even nicer.

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  • WraithXt1WraithXt1 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Search on the market for HUD. There are sever Heads Up Display apps out now for your car.

    I've been using SpeedHUD. You turn it on and place your g1 on your dashboard. The reflection from the window to the dash projects your current speed, heading, and acceleration along with graphs for the latter two in a transparent format in front of your eyes. So far, I love every second of it.

    It also has an "over speed" warning for if you're going too fast. Of course you can adjust how fast "too fast" is. It has an audible warning something like a jet pilot being told to pull up when you're going to hit the ground.

    My biggest complain with the G1, not Android, is the fact that I cant plug in headphones AND charge the phone at the same time! Whos damned idea was that?

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    WraithXt1 wrote: »
    Search on the market for HUD. There are sever Heads Up Display apps out now for your car.

    I've been using SpeedHUD. You turn it on and place your g1 on your dashboard. The reflection from the window to the dash projects your current speed, heading, and acceleration along with graphs for the latter two in a transparent format in front of your eyes. So far, I love every second of it.

    It also has an "over speed" warning for if you're going too fast. Of course you can adjust how fast "too fast" is. It has an audible warning something like a jet pilot being told to pull up when you're going to hit the ground.

    My biggest complain with the G1, not Android, is the fact that I cant plug in headphones AND charge the phone at the same time! Whos damned idea was that?

    Of course you can't! How would they get you to buy this fucker if you could?
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    Also, that HUD thing is insane. I want a car now.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I got the G1 when it came out, and I really like it, but man that Hero is fucking tempting. To bad it's not coming to the US.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Twidgit Lite is an awesome Twitter application. It's a widget, the size of the search or music toolbar, that shows the last tweet on your feed. Clicking it brings up the last 20. Really cool to have on your main screen if you use twitter as much as I do.

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I wish they had that for Facebook or something. There's like one person I know that uses Twitter.

    Is anybody interested in developing for Android? I've been looking at it a little and it seems.. almost too easy.

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  • ImpersonatorImpersonator Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I use Twitter. :(

    Check out who I'm following, ie. Moblin, Jolicloud, UbuntuGeek, etc..

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    If you are still stuck in the 90's then Android IRC is excellent and totally worth the $5 it costs.

    I'm gonna have to check out Bloo, the Fbook app is just atrocious.

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  • WraithXt1WraithXt1 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I'd highly recommend Twidroid as a full twitter client. Its fast, full featured and looks great.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Lord Yod wrote: »
    If you are still stuck in the 90's then Android IRC is excellent and totally worth the $5 it costs.

    I'm gonna have to check out Bloo, the Fbook app is just atrocious.

    Check out Babbler lite, it's free and there's a paid version. Pretty good for being free and I'm not sure if I'll switch to a paid version of either that one or bloo yet.

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    That twidget app is astoundingly cool. I really like twidroid but I'm getting very tired of having to download an update every time I turn around.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Man, Widgets are like the best thing to ever happen to Android.

    And I'm surprised no one's mentioned TuneWiki. I had no idea it worked with Last.Fm, and having a widget for it just makes it all that more awesome.

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  • WraithXt1WraithXt1 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I love the last.fm app, I enjoy making apple fans drool when I play music in the background and jump on the web and go right back to AIM. I'll try out tunewiki tonight.

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    What exactly does tunewiki do?


    Also.. Bloo is the best thing since sliced bread. Uploading photos straight to facebook? Yes, please. Finger-friendly interface, yes please. A hyperactive, friendly developer with an up-to-date blog, fucks yeah.

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  • ChuvChuv Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Thinking about getting a G1 with Rogers/Canada. Unless someone knows of an Android phone in Canada that's not on Rogers. I hate Rogers. But I also hate every other company I think. Meh. I like Koodo, but hate their phone selection.

    P.S. The 'Tab' is a contract, just different.

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I know Rogers have the Magic as well, don't they? I heard that the Magic we have here in Europe is identical in hardware makeup to the Roger's one. Which means more RAM than the G1. If you could choose, I would go Magic. Unless you really, really, really want that hardware keyboard.

    Pro-tip: the soft keyboard is amazing. I'm sloppily hitting every other key correctly and it still predicts my text like 95% of the time. And when it doesn't, it's always on press away from being corrected. Across the three languages I use.

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  • ChuvChuv Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    They do have the magic as well. I just thought they were basically exactly the same, just one had a keyboard. I'm just scared I don't get good with the touch keyboard. Plus the G1 is like 4 times sexier than the magic. That extra RAM does sound nice though... Hmm...

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Sexy isn't the word I would use to describe the G1.

    Now the Hero....

    And Tunewiki is one of those social music things that keeps track of what music you play, you can compare it agaisnt other people, blah, blah. It also displays the lyrics to music as long as it is in their databased, and you would be surprise the stuff they have.

    The thing that makes it so cool for me on the G1 is:

    1)Integrated last.fm and shoutcast. Really cool having those two things in one app.

    2)The music widget, which took place of my default music widget. I can use it to switch between songs stored on my card, lastfm and shoutcast pretty easily.

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Android is just the sort of thing where you would want more RAM to play with.. The best feature is multitasking as previously mentioned and more RAM equals multier multitasking.

    Also, I do believe the Magic is a lot slimmer than the G1. And I'm not even sure I like the look of the G1.

    I bet there are some comparison vids on youtube, if you'd like to investigate further.

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  • ImpersonatorImpersonator Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Is HTC Lancaster the only Android phone to have a qwerty keyboard?

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  • ReckonerReckoner Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Is HTC Lancaster the only Android phone to have a qwerty keyboard?
    HTC Lancaster was already announced?o_O I thought that it was only a rumor. But, yes, Lancaster and G1 are the only models with Android that have a physical keyboard. More will come soon! ;-)

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Well you might as well include the rumored Motorola "Morrison" and the Samsung "Bigfoot", too

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  • DeicistDeicist Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Visti wrote: »
    I wish they had that for Facebook or something. There's like one person I know that uses Twitter.

    Is anybody interested in developing for Android? I've been looking at it a little and it seems.. almost too easy.

    It is pretty easy.

    I spent a couple of hours playing around with the SDK and wrote an app to generate a pin code for a system I use at work.

    This is from someone who has never written any Java before, so I guess it's super easy.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    That Morrison phone is ugly as sin.

    Lots of handhelds in the future, which is good. I figure by the time my 2 year contract expires on my G1 there will be plenty of android stuff to choose from.

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  • ChuvChuv Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I find the G1 to be the only Android phone so far that doesn't make me want to stab my eyes with a BBQ sauce covered fork. I think it looks good, and the rest look terrible. Touch, Lancaster, Bigfoot and Morrison all look so childish. And who the fuck made up the names for those lat two anyway?

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