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Why Do People in the UK Hate their Flag?

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  • lazegamerlazegamer The magnanimous cyberspaceRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Zzulu wrote: »
    I googled it and it's an amazon besting a roman tyrant


    Well not really an amazon, but a woman dressed as one. She's called Virtus and apparently represents Virginia.

    the quote means

    "thus Always to Tyrants" (from when ceasar was assassinated)


    The more you know.

    Apparently I don't know my ass from an amazon. That's not how I would have pictured them.

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  • NeliNeli Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    America is just really Bizarro Europe anyway. emot-dance.gif

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    Zzulu wrote: »
    "thus Always to Tyrants" (from when ceasar was assassinated)

    Also, shouted by John Wilkes Booth when he shot Lincoln... and Crazy Joe Davola when he stormed the set of Seinfeld's pilot episode of "Jerry".

    And the phrase that one of the Monarch's henchman mangled in the Venture Bros.

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    lazegamer wrote: »
    Zzulu wrote: »
    I googled it and it's an amazon besting a roman tyrant


    Well not really an amazon, but a woman dressed as one. She's called Virtus and apparently represents Virginia.

    the quote means

    "thus Always to Tyrants" (from when ceasar was assassinated)


    The more you know.

    Apparently I don't know my ass from an amazon. That's not how I would have pictured them.

    I don't think there are any very clear depictions. There are many variations though, I guess.

    This is one of the older ones;

    AmazonsTogether_reds1_pict2798.jpg

    Battle-of-Amazons-A.jpg


    and

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    Fighting the greeks.


    The myth about them itself varies, but as seen in the virginia state flag, a popular idea was that they had one breast showing, or even had one breast removed.

    Here's a more modern depiction;
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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2009
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  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Death... by snu snu!

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2009
    The spirit is willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised!

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
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  • DeciusDecius I'm old! I'm fat! I'M BLUE!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Cervetus wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, why do Canadians like the maple leaf? Is there some story I'm not familiar with or did they as a nation just decide it's a pretty and delicious tree?
    Decius wrote: »
    Anyhow, the whole Canadian flag waving thing is more of a symbol of pride of being Canadian.

    The symbol is fairly simple, but it's more what it represents then the symbol itself.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    The Canadian flag has a maple leaf because the hockey stick wouldn't fit

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  • DeciusDecius I'm old! I'm fat! I'M BLUE!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    It's kinda like most hatchbacks that way.

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  • obolon84obolon84 Good news, everyone! I just blue myself.Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Like Fyrewulff said, the flag of Nebraska is incredibly bad:

    750px-Flag_of_Nebraska.svg.png

    I saw that it was voted 71st of 72 top American and Canadian flags and the 72nd (Georgia) has been replaced. My country of origin (Ukraine) has a pretty boring flag, but I still like it. The presidential one with the tryzub is better:

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    I feel pretty stupid for not knowing this, but I just realized the Union Flag is a combination of the three nations. I also really like all the different Nordic Cross flags and ones that use historic coats of arms.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2009
    Is the guy in that Nebraska flag hammering a book?

    That's effing awesome.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    That looks like a scifi spaceship.

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  • DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Zzulu wrote: »
    Honk wrote: »
    I thought Sweden's suicide rate was way higher then Denmarks?

    I actually remember now seeing a projection of two graphs based on Swedish research - when education started to pick up here; suicide rates went up rapidly and murder rates decreased rapidly. So critical thinking leads to Swedes offing themselves instead of eachother.

    E-hugs to Cristo, my Danish adversary!

    Here's a suicide chart:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

    It seems swedish males are offing themselves like crazy, while swedish females are not. 8-)

    As for scandinavian depression, Finland has us beat by twice as much. Poor fins. It goes south from there where almost all the eastern european countries are heavily depressed it seems.

    As for Denmark and Sweden, they're just about equally depressed.

    You should forward that to FoxNews, it will throw their entire "The Swedes have pure genes" mantra into a tailspin.

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  • Uncle_BalsamicUncle_Balsamic Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Croatia have the best falg and the best football kits (either them or the Netherlands anyway).

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  • slacktronslacktron Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    HerrCron wrote: »
    Rohan wrote: »
    300px-Flag_of_Connacht.svg.png

    Connacht

    This proves one thing, connaught is the most awesome provence. Crazy bird-thing & sword > all.

    Aw, they totally stole that idea from Strongbadia:
    trogdor.jpg

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  • CervetusCervetus Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    Is the guy in that Nebraska flag hammering a book?

    That's effing awesome.

    It's not like a Nebraskan would know what else to do with a book.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    as someone who is half-Albanian, I can confirm we have the best flag ever.

    (I have 4 or 5 shirts with that crazy Byzantine eagle)

    Another one, hi-5!

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  • LurkLurk Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    The Vatican Flag is pretty much the most badass of them all. It looks like something out of Warhammer.

    600px-Flag_of_the_Vatican_City.svg.png

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  • Mike DangerMike Danger "Diane..." a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I've always liked the idea of the Vatican using Peter's keys. I think it's pretty classy.

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    I guess on the one hand, certain citizens of the UK only see that as the flag of England.

    Not sure if this has been addressed yet, but this is the flag of England:
    england-flag.jpg

    Though Welsh nationalists dislike that they are the only kingdom of the UK not represented on the Union flag.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2009
    It has been addressed. =)

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  • LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    The BNP use the Union Jack as part of their symbol, and many people disagree with their party's manifesto which is why some people do not wish to display it.

    I think the Union Jack is a symbol of what the UK once was, and as mentioned, we are no longer the empire we once were and it is only really used as events where citizens are proud to be British such as sporting events.

    It's not that most people aren't proud to be British (though most are indifferent), its just perhaps we are more quiet about it.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Liiya wrote: »
    The BNP use the Union Jack as part of their symbol, and many people disagree with their party's manifesto which is why some people do not wish to display it.
    We had a similar phenomenon here in the States, still do in a lot of ways. Certain crazy folks love them some flag waving, which makes the rest of us somewhat squeamish about it.

    The trend seems to be changing a bit now, but we'll see if it stabilizes.

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  • NeliNeli Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Northern Europe got the most dull flags ever

    Finland
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    Denmark
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    Sweden
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    England
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    Norway
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    Iceland
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    Woo, we sure like crosses huh.

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  • Pi-r8Pi-r8 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Yeah, what's the reason for all the crosses? They're not even the christian cross.

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Well, most of us pretty much straight up copied denmarks flag and added the colours from our coat of arms.

    I think the english flag is St.Georges cross though

    The finnish is copied more or less, once they won their independence

    The norwegian flag is a variation of the scandinavian cross

    the icelandic flag is a relatively modern one, and supposedly they got it when they earned their independence from denmark



    Basically, scandinavia is one big "almost the same country", and has been, in fact, fused to the hip earlier in history.

    This was the Norwegian-Swedish flag for example, when Sweden owned Norway.
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  • TastyfishTastyfish Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Elldren wrote: »
    Though Welsh nationalists dislike that they are the only kingdom of the UK not represented on the Union flag.

    I am amazed that this doesn't come up more really, how can the question 'Does our flag need more Dragons?' ever be answered with 'no'. Course if they wanted to just make the bottom parts green rather than blue then they can go fuck thems- a sheep.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Pi-r8 wrote: »
    Yeah, what's the reason for all the crosses? They're not even the christian cross.
    It's the Nordic Cross.

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2009
    I decided to look at Spain, and found what has got to be my favorite flag: the Spanish Naval Jack
    180px-Naval_Jack_of_Spain.svg.png
    It is a picture of a crowned lion using a trampoline to assault a castle at the top of a lavafall.
    Next best on the Spannish national level is the flag of the first republic. Yes, the crown makes it look spiffier in the 1785 naval ensign, but I'm not convinced that level of complexity flies well.
    180px-Flag_of_the_First_Spanish_Republic.svg.png180px-Flag_of_Spain_(1785-1873_and_1875-1931).svg.png

    The flag of Valencia is surprisingly effective, given its complexity.
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    The old flag of Granada is ineresting
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    I don't think I've seen anything else quite like the Balearic Islands
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    Outside of Spain, Morocco seems to have a standard format that has prevented any of the regional flags becoming terribly complex, although I must say I prefer their civil ensign (shown) to their national flag, and their oldest flag (shown) really is... something.
    158px-Civil_Ensign_of_Morocco.svg.png120px-Flag_of_Morocco_1147_1269.svg.png

    Back to the states, the flag of Bostonia is ludicrously bad
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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Their country was founded as a Chess club, wasn't it?

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    moniker wrote: »
    Their country was founded as a Chess club, wasn't it?
    The oldest known flag of Morocco is shown in the Libro de Conoscimiento de Todos los Reynos [e9s50]. This flag is supposed to have been used by the rulers in Morocco in XI-XIIIth century. The flag is red with a 64-square chessboard placed in the middle of the flag. The upper left square of the chessboard is white. Red might refer to the Fatimids, white to the Umayyads and black to the Abasids, who had established a protectorate over Kairuan and Fes.
    You know they just made up some bullshit about what the colors represented afterwords.

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    slacktron wrote: »
    HerrCron wrote: »
    Rohan wrote: »
    300px-Flag_of_Connacht.svg.png

    Connacht

    This proves one thing, connaught is the most awesome provence. Crazy bird-thing & sword > all.

    Aw, they totally stole that idea from Strongbadia:
    trogdor.jpg

    Trogdooooor! Burninating the countryside!

    Actually, I'd love to see Trogdor take on the Welsh dragon.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    Is the guy in that Nebraska flag hammering a book?

    That's effing awesome.

    All books in Nebraska are made out of steel so that they can be used to kill in an emergency.

    Also because somebody tried to get fancy with the anvil on the state flag.

    nunst045.gif

    The seal makes it more obvious it's not a book, but damnit now I'm going to have to point it out to people now.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Is the guy in that Nebraska flag hammering a book?

    That's effing awesome.

    All books in Nebraska are made out of steel so that they can be used to kill in an emergency.
    I can confirm this. Surviving college was an ordeal to say the least.

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Pi-r8 wrote: »
    Yeah, what's the reason for all the crosses? They're not even the christian cross.
    It's the Nordic Cross.

    It only became the "nordic cross" once we had all adopted denmarks design

    It's pretty weird really.

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  • DaxonDaxon Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Yeah, I guess it was the "Denmark Cross" at first. I like the history of the evolution of Sweden's obsession with 3 crowns more interesting tbh.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
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    This flag can be found on several old flag charts.
    Jarig Bakker, 21 Aug 1999

    Morocco had around 1884 a red flag, with a border of red and white triangles, in the center two white scimiatrs crossed.
    Josh Fruhlinger, 11 May 1996

    The book [noh71] shows as flag #250, captioned «Emperor of Morocco», with slightly more triangles and in black details in the "scissors": an eye in each handle, and a circle and a pin in the circle in the centre. [bel63], as shown in [sie63], has nearly double the triangles, and open eyes.
    Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 21 Jan 1999

    It might be note here that the Zulfikar flags were commonly misinterpreted by mideval European painters (and flag authorities) as flags showing (tailor’s) scissors! [or crossed scimiatrs].
    Željko Heimer, 20 Aug 1999

    On this chart [bel56], the flag is labelled "Morocco" and consists of a red field with a border made of red and white triangles and with white open scissors centered. Thus, the Moroccoan flag should then be a red flag with the zul-faqar centered and a red/white border of triangles, all these elements white.
    Jorge Candeias, 21 Aug 1999

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    The Piemontese Chronicles report that, in 1781, a vessel flying a red flag «with two white scissors» moored in the port of Villafranca (now Villefranche-sur-Mer, in France). The vessel came from «the Sultanate of Morocco». Lux-Wurm [lux01] says that these “scissors” were in fact two misinterpreted sabers. But he himself fails to interpret these sabers as the famous zulfikar.
    Ivan Sache, 15 Jun 2003

    The dhu-ul-fiqr or thul fuqar or zul-faqar or zulfikar (or any of a number of transliterations from the Arabic) has been used as a symbol of Morocco because the ruling Alaouite dynasty claims legitimacy by virtue of descent from the Prophet’s son-in-law, Ali. Dhu-ul-fiqr was Ali’s sword, the blade of which was split in half.
    Joseph McMillan, 21 Aug 1999
    Morocco has had a history of bad flags.

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  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Zzulu wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Pi-r8 wrote: »
    Yeah, what's the reason for all the crosses? They're not even the christian cross.
    It's the Nordic Cross.

    It only became the "nordic cross" once we had all adopted denmarks design

    It's pretty weird really.

    I think they come from flags that were originally shield designs. e.g. if you turn the flag clockwise 90 degrees it's a christian cross.

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