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[Anime Thread] S2: Haruhi Strikes Back

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    JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    It was bad. Leeron had charm as he was before.

    Now with this voice he's just a painful-to-listen-to blatant stereotype.



    No, it's bad. So bad.



    The Japanese voices fit so much better.

    Especially for Kamina and Viral.

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    JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    What the hell was the thinking?

    "This character is meant to be effeminate. He needs a lisp, of course, or no one will know!"

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    bisondollarsbisondollars Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Episode 7 of Shin Mazinger really made up for the pointless recap crap they pulled at the start of #6. It was a very good episode. Kouji is still the worst character in his own show though (along with the robot corps)... Grandpa, the Kurogane House and Detective Ankokuji are miles ahead in terms of awesomeness.

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    JesuitsJesuits Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    It was bad. Leeron had charm as he was before.

    Now with this voice he's just a painful-to-listen-to blatant stereotype.



    No, it's bad. So bad.



    The Japanese voices fit so much better.

    Especially for Kamina and Viral.

    Considering that Kamina and Viral's actors are both practically legendary, it would be really hard to find any voices that match up favorably. It isn't really fair to knock the English dub for that.

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    ToefooToefoo Los Angeles, CARegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I didn't think Leeron was so bad...but after watching the show in Japanese, and then listening to the Kamina dub...yea, there's no contest there, it blows ass.

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    YamiNoSenshiYamiNoSenshi A point called Z In the complex planeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Jesuits wrote: »
    It was bad. Leeron had charm as he was before.

    Now with this voice he's just a painful-to-listen-to blatant stereotype.

    No, it's bad. So bad.

    The Japanese voices fit so much better.

    Especially for Kamina and Viral.

    Considering that Kamina and Viral's actors are both practically legendary, it would be really hard to find any voices that match up favorably. It isn't really fair to knock the English dub for that.

    This put an imagine in my head: Japanese dub of The Godfather.

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    KelorKelor Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Especially for Kamina and Viral.

    Leeron I thought was ok.

    The problem with Kamina is that the dude that did the voice gave a performance which I don't think could be topped in any language. He has this infectious enthusiasm in his voice all the time.

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    JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Anyone with deeper voices would be nice for the parts.

    Kamina specifically. He was pretty vehemently, ostensibly mad. Just fucking full force.

    They translated "impassioned batshit crazy awesome" into "enthusiastic Brady Bunch big brother cheering on his little brother in a soccer match"

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    FCD wrote: »
    kdrudy wrote: »
    Anime has the nice side effect of having artsy people into it so you can get some good looking ones. The bad side effect of that, if they are fangirls they will be terrible or if they take their cosplaying too seriously they will be terrible. It can be difficult to find reasonable middle ground girls at cons because the other ones all make themselves stand out more.

    Fangirls are easy to work with though. For example -
    Oh you like IchigoXChad ? I thought I was the only one who saw it! They are so totally in love but can't admit it because it's forbidden!

    Why yes I would love to talk to you about this at your hotel room.

    I'm guessing they'd be more into IchigoXUryu, or GrimmjowXUlquiorra if they're emos.

    Eh. You ask them what they're into first then you can peice it together pretty quick.

    Oh that scene where Uryu sews up Kon? I feel thats where he truly let his feelings for Ichigo bloom. The frills and lace were his desire to show his true forbidden feelings.

    Also using forbidden alot is key.

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    ToefooToefoo Los Angeles, CARegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    FCD wrote: »
    kdrudy wrote: »
    Anime has the nice side effect of having artsy people into it so you can get some good looking ones. The bad side effect of that, if they are fangirls they will be terrible or if they take their cosplaying too seriously they will be terrible. It can be difficult to find reasonable middle ground girls at cons because the other ones all make themselves stand out more.

    Fangirls are easy to work with though. For example -
    Oh you like IchigoXChad ? I thought I was the only one who saw it! They are so totally in love but can't admit it because it's forbidden!

    Why yes I would love to talk to you about this at your hotel room.

    I'm guessing they'd be more into IchigoXUryu, or GrimmjowXUlquiorra if they're emos.

    Eh. You ask them what they're into first then you can peice it together pretty quick.

    Oh that scene where Uryu sews up Kon? I feel thats where he truly let his feelings for Ichigo bloom. The frills and lace were his desire to show his true forbidden feelings.

    Also using forbidden alot is key.

    I can picture Riptor hiding near the Yaoi booth, trying to pick out which batshit fangirl he thinks he can persuade to leave with him :lol::winky:

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    ZandraconZandracon Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Agh. Fate/Stay Night spoilers.
    So, when Kotomine tells us he touches the physical form of the Holy Grail pretty much every day. Was reading the LP of it, and something was mentioned. Illya is used as the physical Holy Grail, right? If so, D:

    Also, for those of you reading Negima, the Ala Alba thing is getting a sequel, and something about Rakan's flashback getting animated. Maybe. This image seems to hint at that, I think.
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    JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Kelor wrote: »
    Leeron I thought was ok.

    We know I agree with you on Kamina.

    But in regards to Leeron, I disagree.

    They took all the coolness out of his voice. The lisp kills it. Why was that necessary? It's almost insulting.

    Think of the time Leeron gets fed up with Gimmy and Darry. Gimi/Dari.

    It's something to the effect of "Shut up now... or I will eat you."


    It's just... why the hell the lisp?!

    Steve did Spike. Using just Spikes cool, calm voice would have been perfect. Maybe a little lighter. A little more flippant/fun/flirtatious. The lisp was just... Facepalm worthy.

    That's all.

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    JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Also using forbidden alot is key.

    "I have 57 terabytes of fully animated slashfic, all fully tagged and archived."

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    BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Oh that scene where Uryu sews up Kon?
    I liked the few parts where Uryu whips out a sewing kit and one of the combat themes start playing. It has all the exaggeration of taking a potato chip...and eating it, and the end result is hilarious.

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    setrajonassetrajonas Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Zandracon wrote: »
    Agh. Fate/Stay Night spoilers.
    So, when Kotomine tells us he touches the physical form of the Holy Grail pretty much every day. Was reading the LP of it, and something was mentioned. Illya is used as the physical Holy Grail, right? If so, D:
    Nah, nothing like that. IIRC since he's the administrator of the whole thing, he can basically make his own vessels for the grail.

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    SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Kelor wrote: »
    Leeron I thought was ok.

    We know I agree with you on Kamina.

    But in regards to Leeron, I disagree.

    They took all the coolness out of his voice. The lisp kills it. Why was that necessary? It's almost insulting.

    Think of the time Leeron gets fed up with Gimmy and Darry. Gimi/Dari.

    It's something to the effect of "Shut up now... or I will eat you."


    It's just... why the hell the lisp?!

    Steve did Spike. Using just Spikes cool, calm voice would have been perfect. Maybe a little lighter. A little more flippant/fun/flirtatious. The lisp was just... Facepalm worthy.

    That's all.

    They probably felt it went in hand with the generally easy going, informal tone of the show. I won't say nonserious, but a lot of the time, yes. I mean, it's not supposed to be serious any more than it's supposed to be rational!

    I remember when they first introduced the Leeron character, it was pretty obvious what would happen in the dub. "This guy is totally going to have the TV sitcom gay lisp. I will stake my life on it." And he did. It doesn't help that Leeron is so radically different from the rest of them 'I will punch you in the face so hard your ancestors feel it' male cast. He's probably the only one who's literate before the time skip (Well, him and the Old Man, who can do anything).

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    kdrudykdrudy Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Uh, the TTGL dubs are pretty good, you don't know what you're talking about.

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    KelorKelor Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Synthesis wrote: »
    They probably felt it went in hand with the generally easy going, informal tone of the show. I won't say nonserious, but a lot of the time, yes. I mean, it's not supposed to be serious any more than it's supposed to be rational!

    I remember when they first introduced the Leeron character, it was pretty obvious what would happen in the dub. "This guy is totally going to have the TV sitcom gay lisp. I will stake my life on it." And he did. It doesn't help that Leeron is so radically different from the rest of them 'I will punch you in the face so hard your ancestors feel it' male cast. He's probably the only one who's literate before the time skip (Well, him and the Old Man, who can do anything).

    I always got the impression he was supposed to be a stereotype of a gay man. A western stereotype anyways.

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    OtakuD00DOtakuD00D Can I hit the exploding rocks? San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    kdrudy wrote: »
    Uh, the TTGL dubs are pretty good, you don't know what you're talking about.
    What kdrudy said. Kamina was grating in the first episode, but he got better. It's the kind of thing that grows on you. Nia's voice was spot on. It's one of the most accurate dub voices I've ever heard.

    Steve Blum as Leeron? The guy did a fabulous job there! :)

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    FrosteeyFrosteey Elaise 1521-2945-8940Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Leeron's character and voice were offensive in any language. I personally wouldn't really draw the line at a lisp.

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    ToefooToefoo Los Angeles, CARegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    ITT: Subs vs. Dubs: The Eternal Debate.

    Some people just don't like the dub, and some people do. I like Cowboy Bebop's dub 100000x more than the sub, same as Black Lagoon's now. People have preferences.

    Anyways, to get back on track, I think I'm dropping Hastukoi Limited as my "random series to watch once caught up on the crazy good stuff" show. I had to wince through the incest episode, and I seriously have needed to take breaks every 3 mins during the swimming episode (ep 5). When I have to pause an anime multiple times for breaks, that's when I think it's time to cut 'er loose.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I love me some dubs.

    But onto a different topic, One Piece:

    I'm on the Wikipedia arc and I can already see where this is going.

    Enel very obviously is made of lightning. Luffy is made of rubber. This should be a pretty easy fight in the end.

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    juice for jesusjuice for jesus Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Toefoo wrote: »
    When I have to pause an anime multiple times for breaks, that's when I think it's time to cut 'er loose.

    Oh man, I do this constantly, even with good shows. But a bad/embarrassing scene will take me forever to get through.

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I love me some dubs.

    But onto a different topic, One Piece:

    I'm on the Wikipedia arc and I can already see where this is going.

    Enel very obviously is made of lightning. Luffy is made of rubber. This should be a pretty easy fight in the end.

    You'd be suprised.

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    ZythonZython Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I love me some dubs.

    But onto a different topic, One Piece:

    I'm on the Wikipedia arc and I can already see where this is going.

    Enel very obviously is made of lightning. Luffy is made of rubber. This should be a pretty easy fight in the end.
    Enel has other ways to use his abilities. Not to mention his Mantra.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    He's made of RUBBER!

    Obviously, being the villian of the arc and one of those nutcases with a ridiculous power and complete control over it he's not going to just roll over, but at least the fight should be less silly than Rubber vs. Sand or Rubber vs. Smoke.

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    He's made of RUBBER!

    Obviously, being the villian of the arc and one of those nutcases with a ridiculous power and complete control over it he's not going to just roll over, but at least the fight should be less silly than Rubber vs. Sand or Rubber vs. Smoke.

    I assure you that you couldn't be more wrong.

    That fight is the payoff for what is undoubtedly the worst one Peice arc ever.

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    darunia106darunia106 J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    He's made of RUBBER!

    Obviously, being the villian of the arc and one of those nutcases with a ridiculous power and complete control over it he's not going to just roll over, but at least the fight should be less silly than Rubber vs. Sand or Rubber vs. Smoke.

    I assure you that you couldn't be more wrong.

    That fight is the payoff for what is undoubtedly the worst one Peice arc ever.
    When you see Enel crap bricks, you will crap bricks.

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    SlicerSlicer Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    He's made of RUBBER!

    Obviously, being the villian of the arc and one of those nutcases with a ridiculous power and complete control over it he's not going to just roll over, but at least the fight should be less silly than Rubber vs. Sand or Rubber vs. Smoke.

    I assure you that you couldn't be more wrong.

    That fight is the payoff for what is undoubtedly the worst one Peice arc ever.

    Eh, I enjoyed that arc more than Thriller Bark.

    Though I suppose Thriller Bark does have some plot relevancy going for it.

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    SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Toefoo wrote: »
    ITT: Subs vs. Dubs: The Eternal Debate.

    Some people just don't like the dub, and some people do. I like Cowboy Bebop's dub 100000x more than the sub, same as Black Lagoon's now. People have preferences.

    Well, of course, but I think the issue with TTGL can exist well outside of the issue. There are a few shows I prefer to watch dubbed (Last Exile, Gunsmith Cats, and Cowboy Beop come to mind--Beau Billingslea is always entertaining, even if he's narrating some History Channel special on the history of washing machines). And there are a few shows I enjoy subbed--though compared to the lot I hang out with, I'm overly tolerant of dubs.

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    He's made of RUBBER!

    Obviously, being the villian of the arc and one of those nutcases with a ridiculous power and complete control over it he's not going to just roll over, but at least the fight should be less silly than Rubber vs. Sand or Rubber vs. Smoke.

    I assure you that you couldn't be more wrong.

    That fight is the payoff for what is undoubtedly the worst one Peice arc ever.

    It's not the worst. It's just too long, and has no impact on the greater picture despite how long it was, simply because of the whole "removed from the outside world" thing.

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    blkmageblkmage Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Zandracon wrote: »
    Also, for those of you reading Negima, the Ala Alba thing is getting a sequel, and something about Rakan's flashback getting animated. Maybe. This image seems to hint at that, I think.
    negima_251_10.jpg

    Yeah, it was announced a while ago, although before, they said it'd land sometime in summer. The OVA is supposed to be four episodes and covers the magic country arc. Of course, that means it's unlikely that we'll see the entire thing, so it's a matter of what parts the OVA manages to include. I mean, the Ala Alba stuff was alright, but it wasn't really anything awesome.

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Jragghen wrote: »
    He's made of RUBBER!

    Obviously, being the villian of the arc and one of those nutcases with a ridiculous power and complete control over it he's not going to just roll over, but at least the fight should be less silly than Rubber vs. Sand or Rubber vs. Smoke.

    I assure you that you couldn't be more wrong.

    That fight is the payoff for what is undoubtedly the worst one Peice arc ever.

    It's not the worst. It's just too long, and has no impact on the greater picture despite how long it was, simply because of the whole "removed from the outside world" thing.

    What would you deem the worst? Because honestly even the Davyback fight was funny beyond comprehension despite being "filler"

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    ToefooToefoo Los Angeles, CARegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Toefoo wrote: »
    When I have to pause an anime multiple times for breaks, that's when I think it's time to cut 'er loose.

    Oh man, I do this constantly, even with good shows. But a bad/embarrassing scene will take me forever to get through.

    Yea I do that sometimes with a good show, but I mean when I have to pause (this is no exaggeration) 15+ times in one 30 minute episode, I gotta call foul.
    Synthesis wrote: »
    Well, of course, but I think the issue with TTGL can exist well outside of the issue. There are a few shows I prefer to watch dubbed (Last Exile, Gunsmith Cats, and Cowboy Beop come to mind--Beau Billingslea is always entertaining, even if he's narrating some History Channel special on the history of washing machines). And there are a few shows I enjoy subbed--though compared to the lot I hang out with, I'm overly tolerant of dubs.

    Yea, I don't ever mind which version a person prefers, until the discussion boils down to: "Your opinion is terrible because you like/dislike the sub/dub."

    I do share your love of Beau Billingslea, he's like Morgan Freeman where he could be talking about the larval stage of some insect for 30 mins and I would be on the edge of my seat hanging on every word.

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Jragghen wrote: »
    He's made of RUBBER!

    Obviously, being the villian of the arc and one of those nutcases with a ridiculous power and complete control over it he's not going to just roll over, but at least the fight should be less silly than Rubber vs. Sand or Rubber vs. Smoke.

    I assure you that you couldn't be more wrong.

    That fight is the payoff for what is undoubtedly the worst one Peice arc ever.

    It's not the worst. It's just too long, and has no impact on the greater picture despite how long it was, simply because of the whole "removed from the outside world" thing.

    What would you deem the worst? Because honestly even the Davyback fight was funny beyond comprehension despite being "filler"

    Davy Back annoyed the hell out of me aside from the last fight, particularly in the anime with how they dragged it out.

    I would certainly agree that Skypia was one of the weaker ones, and its weakness is more noticeable because of its length and lack of overall relevance, but I found Drum Island, Davy Back, and Little Garden to be less entertaining in and of themselves. Each one of them had small items which were entertaining, but taken as a whole? Yeah, those three I'd say are weaker.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    My real problem with this arc so far besides being hella long is that they've started creeping up to 5 minutes before the new episode actually starts.

    It is however saving me loads of time by skipping tons of stuff off of both ends, making the viewing go much faster.

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    blkmage wrote: »
    Zandracon wrote: »
    Also, for those of you reading Negima, the Ala Alba thing is getting a sequel, and something about Rakan's flashback getting animated. Maybe. This image seems to hint at that, I think.
    negima_251_10.jpg

    Yeah, it was announced a while ago, although before, they said it'd land sometime in summer. The OVA is supposed to be four episodes and covers the magic country arc. Of course, that means it's unlikely that we'll see the entire thing, so it's a matter of what parts the OVA manages to include. I mean, the Ala Alba stuff was alright, but it wasn't really anything awesome.

    The problem is that if it's Rakan's flashback currently none of the Negima series could be in continuity with it.

    I wish they'd just do a straightforward manga adaption. I need some animated Kotaro awesomeness.

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    My real problem with this arc so far besides being hella long is that they've started creeping up to 5 minutes before the new episode actually starts.

    It is however saving me loads of time by skipping tons of stuff off of both ends, making the viewing go much faster.

    Get used to it. It's the standard from there on in. Eneis Lobby is fantastic in the manga and I found the anime annoying to watch because of it. :? It's also really, really blatant in Thriller Bark.

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    ThetherooThetheroo Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    blkmage wrote: »
    Zandracon wrote: »
    Also, for those of you reading Negima, the Ala Alba thing is getting a sequel, and something about Rakan's flashback getting animated. Maybe. This image seems to hint at that, I think.
    negima_251_10.jpg

    Yeah, it was announced a while ago, although before, they said it'd land sometime in summer. The OVA is supposed to be four episodes and covers the magic country arc. Of course, that means it's unlikely that we'll see the entire thing, so it's a matter of what parts the OVA manages to include. I mean, the Ala Alba stuff was alright, but it wasn't really anything awesome.

    As long as I get my animated Rakan fight, I will be happy. That was easily my favorite fight sequence in any manga ever.

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Thetheroo wrote: »
    blkmage wrote: »
    Zandracon wrote: »
    Also, for those of you reading Negima, the Ala Alba thing is getting a sequel, and something about Rakan's flashback getting animated. Maybe. This image seems to hint at that, I think.
    negima_251_10.jpg

    Yeah, it was announced a while ago, although before, they said it'd land sometime in summer. The OVA is supposed to be four episodes and covers the magic country arc. Of course, that means it's unlikely that we'll see the entire thing, so it's a matter of what parts the OVA manages to include. I mean, the Ala Alba stuff was alright, but it wasn't really anything awesome.

    As long as I get my animated Rakan fight, I will be happy. That was easily my favorite fight sequence in any manga ever.

    That was really good. I'm looking forward to the final Fate/Negi fight though.

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