I hear you pony, Nathan Fillion is the new Bruce Campbell.
pretty much yeah.
i remember laughing pretty hard during one of the first few issues of The Ultimates (re-make of the Avengers) and the Ultimates team themselves were doing fantasy casting of who would play them in a movie about them and they were using all well-known actors who don't really fit the characters at all besides vaguely fitting the appearance and someone suggested Lucy Liu for the Wasp
and the Wasp ripped on them for suggesting Lucy Liu because Wasp is asian and "Lucy Liu is the only asian actress you know about"
i giggled
it was like a giant take-that at "fantasy casting" on nerdy message boards and shit.
i thought the wasp was white
like white heiress or something
dd they retcon her into being asian like they did psylocke?
regular Wasp from the normal Avengers comics is white
her last name is even "Van Dyne"
the Wasp from the Ultimates is Asian, in the same way many Ultimates characters got their ethnicities changed (the idea of Nick Fury being a bald black man who looks like Samuel L. Jackson exists only in the Ultimates, for example)
There's nothing wrong with using a retcon if it fixes something that was really stupid about a character, or if it otherwise makes the story or game more enjoyable.
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And Elldren gets it done better and with less words, as usual.
There's nothing wrong with using a retcon if it fixes something that was really stupid about a character, or if it otherwise makes the story or game more enjoyable.
the places where quantum laws end up becoming the laws we understand at our scales are well-understood. in fact, an understanding of this transition was a prerequisite to the quantum laws in the first place.
the one-word answer is thermodynamics, the slightly longer answer is "around the scale of thousands of atoms"
How? How do these non-physical laws "bind fast" the physical world and create a fundamentally different layer of reality?
the best analogy i can give is how if you filled a continent with equal proportions of black and white marbles and then looked at it from the moon. it is impossible for you, on the moon, to resolve it on the level of marbles or interact with it. so it's grey at your scale.
this isn't a great analogy, but the truth of it is kind of too mathy.
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I disagree. Your position only makes sense if the mainstream is inherently good and worth protecting. If someone exhibits a behavior that is abnormal, the abnormality itself does not carry a moral burden. Only if it can be shown that the behavior is harmful or an indicator of harm (ie OCD) does it mandate a moral reaction.
What's I'm trying to say is, take your ethnocentrism to France or Turkey. They love that shit over there.
i'd say the opposite. all other things equal, it's preferable to err on the side of a coherent society. it doesn't mean that i want to round up everyone who is left handed into a camp, but it does mean that i am not being immoral by disapproving of the dude wearing a plush animal suit to work.
I'm intrigued by the idea of conformity as a desirable goal (in the social sense, conformity to rules that prevent harm is obviously desirable).
Will was retconned into an Asian
It's actually reminding me of everything I hate about France.
I disagree. Your position only makes sense if the mainstream is inherently good and worth protecting. If someone exhibits a behavior that is abnormal, the abnormality itself does not carry a moral burden. Only if it can be shown that the behavior is harmful or an indicator of harm (ie OCD) does it mandate a moral reaction.
What's I'm trying to say is, take your ethnocentrism to France or Turkey. They love that shit over there.
i'd say the opposite. all other things equal, it's preferable to err on the side of a coherent society. it doesn't mean that i want to round up everyone who is left handed into a camp, but it does mean that i am not being immoral by disapproving of the dude wearing a plush animal suit to work.
I'm intrigued by the idea of conformity as a desirable goal (in the social sense, conformity to rules that prevent harm is obviously desirable).
Will was retconned into an Asian
It's actually reminding me of everything I hate about France.
Previous Robin Dick Grayson who went onto become the Hero Nightwing (really good stuff btw) is currently dressing up as Batman and running around with Bruce's son who is dressed as Robin to promulgate the legend of Batman and Robin in Bruce's absence.
I am okay with reboots. Starting the story over from scratch while changing the details and shit, that's okay.
But actually trying to change something significant and then pretending it was always that way or coming up with some wanky explanation for why it changed to always having been that way is annoying as hell.
For the record, by the by, Psylocke was never "Retconned" to being Asian. Her character was changed to an Asian woman from a white British woman specifically because it involved some psychic body-swap chicanery.
But retcons refer specifically to changing the history of a work and pretending the change was always the way it was. Retconning a character's ethnicity would involve changing it and then pretending that it was always like that.
Like when actors replace other actors as the same character in a TV show and nobody notices the change and they even change flashbacks or something, that's a retcon.
the places where quantum laws end up becoming the laws we understand at our scales are well-understood. in fact, an understanding of this transition was a prerequisite to the quantum laws in the first place.
the one-word answer is thermodynamics, the slightly longer answer is "around the scale of thousands of atoms"
How? How do these non-physical laws "bind fast" the physical world and create a fundamentally different layer of reality?
Because quantum laws don't refer to the physical world? No matter how much we want them to?
Did I get this wrong Will?
it's basically that quantum laws acting on large numbers of particles become the set of physical laws that effect us. it's not a sharp division of the two.
like rolling a quadrillion six-sided dice and finding the average. it's gonna be 3.5 every damn time.
i mean quantum scales are fucking tiny. like a decimal point with like 33 zeroes after it.
the places where quantum laws end up becoming the laws we understand at our scales are well-understood. in fact, an understanding of this transition was a prerequisite to the quantum laws in the first place.
the one-word answer is thermodynamics, the slightly longer answer is "around the scale of thousands of atoms"
How? How do these non-physical laws "bind fast" the physical world and create a fundamentally different layer of reality?
Because quantum laws don't refer to the physical world? No matter how much we want them to?
Did I get this wrong Will?
it's basically that quantum laws acting on large numbers of particles become the set of physical laws that effect us. it's not a sharp division of the two.
like rolling a quadrillion six-sided dice and finding the average. it's gonna be 3.5 every damn time.
i mean quantum scales are fucking tiny. like a decimal point with like 33 zeroes after it.
Previous Robin Dick Grayson who went onto become the Hero Nightwing (really good stuff btw) is currently dressing up as Batman and running around with Bruce's son who is dressed as Robin to promulgate the legend of Batman and Robin in Bruce's absence.
Didn't Bruce Wayne like
die, then come back as a zombie joining the evil counterpart to the green lanterns
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If anyone gives me a physics lecture, let me know when I get back
Marvel. Well aside from Brand New Day they were doing just fine.
Image Comics is tearing shit up with Robert Kirkman.
But why are they calling the M actress "James Judi Dench" in that article? Have... have I missed an important factoid about "her"?
regular Wasp from the normal Avengers comics is white
her last name is even "Van Dyne"
the Wasp from the Ultimates is Asian, in the same way many Ultimates characters got their ethnicities changed (the idea of Nick Fury being a bald black man who looks like Samuel L. Jackson exists only in the Ultimates, for example)
I disagree with you.
Captain America: Reborn.
Pretty major retcon in the MU that was also awful.
the best analogy i can give is how if you filled a continent with equal proportions of black and white marbles and then looked at it from the moon. it is impossible for you, on the moon, to resolve it on the level of marbles or interact with it. so it's grey at your scale.
this isn't a great analogy, but the truth of it is kind of too mathy.
Most people who are rampant about gaining 'equality' need to crack open a dictionary and see what that word means.
You just summed up what I hate about serial comics...
"Both are actually dead right now."
that is because you are a feminist
and not a crazy person
DC reboots the universe every three years to "fix continuity" and it never works
Marvel should have just redone everything Ultimate universe style but they've mostly killed the whole thing now except for Bendis' spider-man
It's actually reminding me of everything I hate about France.
Really, Arch? I thought you hated retcons.
NOTE: I retconned Nerdgasmic's post.
But it's an animal right
Are you part of the fursecution
Being allowed to pursue wearing a fur suit is.
That word.
That word.
What about just wearing a live animal?
Respect knucks!
Which Is why I agree with him
NOTE: I retconned my post
Spoiler. Kind of.
Previous Robin Dick Grayson who went onto become the Hero Nightwing (really good stuff btw) is currently dressing up as Batman and running around with Bruce's son who is dressed as Robin to promulgate the legend of Batman and Robin in Bruce's absence.
I am okay with reboots. Starting the story over from scratch while changing the details and shit, that's okay.
But actually trying to change something significant and then pretending it was always that way or coming up with some wanky explanation for why it changed to always having been that way is annoying as hell.
For the record, by the by, Psylocke was never "Retconned" to being Asian. Her character was changed to an Asian woman from a white British woman specifically because it involved some psychic body-swap chicanery.
But retcons refer specifically to changing the history of a work and pretending the change was always the way it was. Retconning a character's ethnicity would involve changing it and then pretending that it was always like that.
Like when actors replace other actors as the same character in a TV show and nobody notices the change and they even change flashbacks or something, that's a retcon.
My words manifest whatsoever I choose.
it's basically that quantum laws acting on large numbers of particles become the set of physical laws that effect us. it's not a sharp division of the two.
like rolling a quadrillion six-sided dice and finding the average. it's gonna be 3.5 every damn time.
i mean quantum scales are fucking tiny. like a decimal point with like 33 zeroes after it.
Gotcha
EDIT: I was kinda right
Didn't Bruce Wayne like
or something silly like that?
Absolutely not permissible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExZ0i04pSeY
HOW CUTE
Some is good, some is not.
Right now, mostly not.
That's okay then. You are forgiven.
Note: Extensive rewrite. Had to keep everything in line for future posts/threads.
The Dark Knight is excellent, but there's not much "super" in it.
for something more along the lines of the themes of superheroism, interestingly enough, those who are interested should watch Special
and that was I don't need your civil war, instead
gotta say, civil war has such a horrible plot
I don't know, making a deal with the devil is still my biggest peeve with any changes that have been done.