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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Dalton is sexier than Brosnan.

    god

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    Bliss 101Bliss 101 Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Choco and I have been having an argument for like two months about whether Pierce Brosnand as Bond or Daniel Craig is hotter.

    It's obviously Craig. Brosnand looks like your uncle who is tired because he moved into a new tax bracket and he likes to drink too much wine and complain about welfare queens at Christmas while everyone uncomfortably ignores him.

    I dunno, I'd do them both.

    Preferably at the same time.

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    PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    ok so then why is that kate beaton comic so funny to me

    because it's standard internet nerd humor and you are a standard internet nerd

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    super-hero movies can be good

    what i don't understand is the nerdy obsession with "ascending" comic books they love to movie adaptations

    it's like, why do you want a movie adaptation, anyway?

    the truth is for a lot of comic book nerds is that even though they might have a scowly contempt for mainstream culture, they still want the affirmation of seeing their favorite thing in a more popular medium.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Choco and I have been having an argument for like two months about whether Pierce Brosnand as Bond or Daniel Craig is hotter.

    It's obviously Craig. Brosnand looks like your uncle who is tired because he moved into a new tax bracket and he likes to drink too much wine and complain about welfare queens at Christmas while everyone uncomfortably ignores him.

    Brosnan is more debonair. Craig has more of a rough-and-tumble bruiser build. Brosnan is closer to what Ian Fleming personally envisioned Bond to look like. He did not originally like the Sean Connery casting, IIRC.

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Podly wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    ok so then why is that kate beaton comic so funny to me

    because it's standard internet nerd humor and you are a standard internet nerd

    fair enough

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    HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Choco and I have been having an argument for like two months about whether Pierce Brosnand as Bond or Daniel Craig is hotter.

    It's obviously Craig. Brosnand looks like your uncle who is tired because he moved into a new tax bracket and he likes to drink too much wine and complain about welfare queens at Christmas while everyone uncomfortably ignores him.

    Craig 100%

    choco is not allowed to judge the attractiveness of men, ever

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    GonmunGonmun He keeps kickin' me in the dickRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Gonmun wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Ryadic wrote: »

    Not into a serious movie. Keep it lighthearted and true to it's source and still animated.

    Can't be done man, super heroes have to all be "SUPER SERIOUS!" I mean look at the propsed spiderman reboot and weep.

    Ugh...don't remind me. Marvel's already got success with Iron Man. I'm really hoping Thor and Cap are good because that would hopefully translate into a really good Avengers movie. They should just try and stick to one group or story set for a bit and then move to another instead of trying to hit a bunch all at once.

    the avengers are not an interesting property

    they are just a bunch of superheroes without much of a theme or premise

    to be honest, they are going to have to really work to keep captain america and thor from being boring fan-service bullshit

    they will almost certainly suck unless the writers and directors can find some kind of interesting hook

    The Avengers are pretty much the flagship title for Marvel. I agree that there is going to have to be some huge strides for Thor and Cap as far as movies but the same was said about Iron Man before it came out and look how that turned out. I think Marvel made a good move with going on it's own as far as production and got away from Sony. I think though that if they can get anywhere near the acclaim with Thor and Cap that they did with Iron Man that an Avengers movie would pretty much be a cash cow for them in the end.

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    here are the three things you need to make a good superhero movie

    -great action scenes
    -genuinely funny writing
    -impressive special effects

    here's what you don't need

    -angst
    -serious storylines
    -people crying

    this is because *many popular* superheroes are inherently ridiculous, and one should embrace that

    fixed.

    haha no. They're all incredibly silly.

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    Podly wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    ok so then why is that kate beaton comic so funny to me

    because it's standard internet nerd humor and you are a standard internet nerd

    fair enough

    what i am really getting at is

    the comic has nothing to do with his anything right?

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    NostregarNostregar Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Pony wrote: »
    super-hero movies can be good

    what i don't understand is the nerdy obsession with "ascending" comic books they love to movie adaptations

    it's like, why do you want a movie adaptation, anyway?

    the truth is for a lot of comic book nerds is that even though they might have a scowly contempt for mainstream culture, they still want the affirmation of seeing their favorite thing in a more popular medium.

    I don't think that's it at all.

    Seeing a live-action version of a comic you know and love, if done well, is a really great experience.

    See: Iron Man and the new Batman movies.

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    TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Guys.

    Yoga before or after workout?

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    Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator mod
    edited March 2010
    I disagree. Your position only makes sense if the mainstream is inherently good and worth protecting. If someone exhibits a behavior that is abnormal, the abnormality itself does not carry a moral burden. Only if it can be shown that the behavior is harmful or an indicator of harm (ie OCD) does it mandate a moral reaction.

    What's I'm trying to say is, take your ethnocentrism to France or Turkey. They love that shit over there.

    i'd say the opposite. all other things equal, it's preferable to err on the side of a coherent society. it doesn't mean that i want to round up everyone who is left handed into a camp, but it does mean that i am not being immoral by disapproving of the dude wearing a plush animal suit to work.

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    PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Pierce Brosnand is a much more handsome man.

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    Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Bliss 101 wrote: »
    Choco and I have been having an argument for like two months about whether Pierce Brosnand as Bond or Daniel Craig is hotter.

    It's obviously Craig. Brosnand looks like your uncle who is tired because he moved into a new tax bracket and he likes to drink too much wine and complain about welfare queens at Christmas while everyone uncomfortably ignores him.

    I dunno, I'd do them both.

    Preferably at the same time.

    Apparently Daniel Craig has a monster dick.

    So really Brosnand would look sad and tiny next to him.

    CRAIG WINS IN ALL WAYS.

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    PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    Podly wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    ok so then why is that kate beaton comic so funny to me

    because it's standard internet nerd humor and you are a standard internet nerd

    fair enough

    what i am really getting at is

    the comic has nothing to do with his anything right?

    Well, I mean, it's just absurd humor, and Kierkegaard sort of invented the intellectual concept of the absurd, so it's somewhat related, but basically yeah nothing to do with it.

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    HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    where

    where did you hear that, cass

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    NostregarNostregar Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Guys.

    Brosnan has no "D" on the end.

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Podly wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    Podly wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    ok so then why is that kate beaton comic so funny to me

    because it's standard internet nerd humor and you are a standard internet nerd

    fair enough

    what i am really getting at is

    the comic has nothing to do with his anything right?

    Well, I mean, it's just absurd humor, and Kierkegaard sort of invented the intellectual concept of the absurd, so it's somewhat related, but basically yeah nothing to do with it.

    Ok then

    one sec looking at it again and giggling

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    Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator mod
    edited March 2010
    Pony wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I hear you pony, Nathan Fillion is the new Bruce Campbell.

    pretty much yeah.

    i remember laughing pretty hard during one of the first few issues of The Ultimates (re-make of the Avengers) and the Ultimates team themselves were doing fantasy casting of who would play them in a movie about them and they were using all well-known actors who don't really fit the characters at all besides vaguely fitting the appearance and someone suggested Lucy Liu for the Wasp

    and the Wasp ripped on them for suggesting Lucy Liu because Wasp is asian and "Lucy Liu is the only asian actress you know about"

    i giggled

    it was like a giant take-that at "fantasy casting" on nerdy message boards and shit.

    i thought the wasp was white

    like white heiress or something

    dd they retcon her into being asian like they did psylocke?

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    DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    here are the three things you need to make a good superhero movie

    -great action scenes
    -genuinely funny writing
    -impressive special effects

    here's what you don't need

    -angst
    -serious storylines
    -people crying

    this is because *many popular* superheroes are inherently ridiculous, and one should embrace that

    fixed.

    haha no. They're all incredibly silly.

    That's a pretty narrow minded viewpoint. There are a lot of comics that involve people with super human abilities or powers that manage to be much more than bright tights.

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    Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    greendino.jpg

    Hahaha oh what the fuck

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    japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Irond Will wrote: »
    I disagree. Your position only makes sense if the mainstream is inherently good and worth protecting. If someone exhibits a behavior that is abnormal, the abnormality itself does not carry a moral burden. Only if it can be shown that the behavior is harmful or an indicator of harm (ie OCD) does it mandate a moral reaction.

    What's I'm trying to say is, take your ethnocentrism to France or Turkey. They love that shit over there.

    i'd say the opposite. all other things equal, it's preferable to err on the side of a coherent society. it doesn't mean that i want to round up everyone who is left handed into a camp, but it does mean that i am not being immoral by disapproving of the dude wearing a plush animal suit to work.

    I'm intrigued by the idea of conformity as a desirable goal (in the social sense, conformity to rules that prevent harm is obviously desirable).

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    SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    where

    where did you hear that, cass

    translation: pics plz

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    My favourite bond movie is The Tailor of Panama.

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    NostregarNostregar Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I hear you pony, Nathan Fillion is the new Bruce Campbell.

    pretty much yeah.

    i remember laughing pretty hard during one of the first few issues of The Ultimates (re-make of the Avengers) and the Ultimates team themselves were doing fantasy casting of who would play them in a movie about them and they were using all well-known actors who don't really fit the characters at all besides vaguely fitting the appearance and someone suggested Lucy Liu for the Wasp

    and the Wasp ripped on them for suggesting Lucy Liu because Wasp is asian and "Lucy Liu is the only asian actress you know about"

    i giggled

    it was like a giant take-that at "fantasy casting" on nerdy message boards and shit.

    i thought the wasp was white

    like white heiress or something

    dd they retcon her into being asian like they did psylocke?

    If I recall correctly, the Ultimates is actually a different universe.

    So, it isn't really a retcon.

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    Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
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    HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    where

    where did you hear that, cass

    translation: pics plz

    look

    i'm just saying

    all i'm implying is

    13 and a half inch dick

    maybe

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    if there is one word that describes why i really dislike "comic books" in the sense that they refer to things like Batman, Avengers, and the like

    it is "retcon"

    Nothing makes me more annoyed than that.

    How about, instead of inventing or just changing something about the previously established universe, you create new and interesting comics and characters?

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    GonmunGonmun He keeps kickin' me in the dickRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    Gonmun wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    How many people would throw heavy things at me if I said I like the Xmen movies

    all of them

    I'd throw large objects at you for liking the third. The other two I'd basically agree with you. I didn't have much of a problem with Singer not doing the third, more so the story was so fucking botched from the source as far as the phoenix and the whole
    killing Scott and the Professor off at the beginning
    that it just ruined it for me. The one shining light out of it though. Kelsey Grammar. In my mind, that man is and shall always be Hank McCoy.

    Gonmun in reference to Phoenix, I would say that the source for Phoenix is so silly that what they "did to it" is just as ludicrous. Maybe even less so

    Spider-Phoenix anyone?

    You didn't even necessarily need to have Phoenix be from space. Maybe some sort of entity or hell another mutant that managed to manipulate Jean. Having it as
    a personality disorder
    just felt like such a cop out in my mind. But hey, they gotta try and make it work somehow. At least it wasn't "goo from a meteorite".

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    NostregarNostregar Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    if there is one word that describes why i really dislike "comic books" in the sense that they refer to things like Batman, Avengers, and the like

    it is "retcon"

    Nothing makes me more annoyed than that.

    How about, instead of inventing or just changing something about the previously established universe, you create new and interesting comics and characters?

    $$$$

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Pony wrote: »
    super-hero movies can be good

    what i don't understand is the nerdy obsession with "ascending" comic books they love to movie adaptations

    it's like, why do you want a movie adaptation, anyway?

    the truth is for a lot of comic book nerds is that even though they might have a scowly contempt for mainstream culture, they still want the affirmation of seeing their favorite thing in a more popular medium.

    Because people are curious to see action implied in stills or text in motion. Because people "think" in motion. We are motile creatures.

    When you have 12 panels consisting of still images or five paragraphs discussing a "scene," most people fill in the blanks imagining the scene come to life in motion. I feel this is why the Lord of the Rings movie adaptation was such a massive success. Despite the fact that it was fairly decent as a film, people went to see it to see if how they imagined the film was how someone else saw it.

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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I hear you pony, Nathan Fillion is the new Bruce Campbell.

    pretty much yeah.

    i remember laughing pretty hard during one of the first few issues of The Ultimates (re-make of the Avengers) and the Ultimates team themselves were doing fantasy casting of who would play them in a movie about them and they were using all well-known actors who don't really fit the characters at all besides vaguely fitting the appearance and someone suggested Lucy Liu for the Wasp

    and the Wasp ripped on them for suggesting Lucy Liu because Wasp is asian and "Lucy Liu is the only asian actress you know about"

    i giggled

    it was like a giant take-that at "fantasy casting" on nerdy message boards and shit.

    i thought the wasp was white

    like white heiress or something

    dd they retcon her into being asian like they did psylocke?

    Psylocke had a rather extensive thing through which she became Asian that, while it doesn't really make much sense, isn't really a retcon.

    Unless they retconned that

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    SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I hear you pony, Nathan Fillion is the new Bruce Campbell.

    pretty much yeah.

    i remember laughing pretty hard during one of the first few issues of The Ultimates (re-make of the Avengers) and the Ultimates team themselves were doing fantasy casting of who would play them in a movie about them and they were using all well-known actors who don't really fit the characters at all besides vaguely fitting the appearance and someone suggested Lucy Liu for the Wasp

    and the Wasp ripped on them for suggesting Lucy Liu because Wasp is asian and "Lucy Liu is the only asian actress you know about"

    i giggled

    it was like a giant take-that at "fantasy casting" on nerdy message boards and shit.

    i thought the wasp was white

    like white heiress or something

    dd they retcon her into being asian like they did psylocke?

    Ultimates Wasp was asian

    Ultimates was like Avengers rebooted in a different universe with real writers and no shit continuity

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Gonmun wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    Gonmun wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    How many people would throw heavy things at me if I said I like the Xmen movies

    all of them

    I'd throw large objects at you for liking the third. The other two I'd basically agree with you. I didn't have much of a problem with Singer not doing the third, more so the story was so fucking botched from the source as far as the phoenix and the whole
    killing Scott and the Professor off at the beginning
    that it just ruined it for me. The one shining light out of it though. Kelsey Grammar. In my mind, that man is and shall always be Hank McCoy.

    Gonmun in reference to Phoenix, I would say that the source for Phoenix is so silly that what they "did to it" is just as ludicrous. Maybe even less so

    Spider-Phoenix anyone?

    You didn't even necessarily need to have Phoenix be from space. Maybe some sort of entity or hell another mutant that managed to manipulate Jean. Having it as
    a personality disorder
    just felt like such a cop out in my mind. But hey, they gotta try and make it work somehow. At least it wasn't "goo from a meteorite".

    I think I much prefer the take of "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" than OMG ITS NOT HER FAULT EVIL SPACE FORCE

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    Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    There's this feminist blog I read and while I agree with most of what they say

    There is this firm belief on the blog that any remake or reboot should replace the white male protaganist with a woman of a different ethnicity.

    I do not agree with it at all and it drives me insane.

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    Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator mod
    edited March 2010
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    here are the three things you need to make a good superhero movie

    -great action scenes
    -genuinely funny writing
    -impressive special effects

    here's what you don't need

    -angst
    -serious storylines
    -people crying

    this is because superheroes are inherently ridiculous, and one should embrace that

    eh, Batman begins showed that you can do the latter provided you have the least Super of Superheroes and one of the best directors currently working

    the first and second spiderman movies had relatively serious themes and were good

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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    japan wrote: »
    Irond Will wrote: »
    I disagree. Your position only makes sense if the mainstream is inherently good and worth protecting. If someone exhibits a behavior that is abnormal, the abnormality itself does not carry a moral burden. Only if it can be shown that the behavior is harmful or an indicator of harm (ie OCD) does it mandate a moral reaction.

    What's I'm trying to say is, take your ethnocentrism to France or Turkey. They love that shit over there.

    i'd say the opposite. all other things equal, it's preferable to err on the side of a coherent society. it doesn't mean that i want to round up everyone who is left handed into a camp, but it does mean that i am not being immoral by disapproving of the dude wearing a plush animal suit to work.

    I'm intrigued by the idea of conformity as a desirable goal (in the social sense, conformity to rules that prevent harm is obviously desirable).

    Will was retconned into an Asian

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    BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited March 2010
    Ultimate Wasp is asian, normal universe Wasp is white.

    Both are actually dead right now, and both of their deaths were rubbish.

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    TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Irond Will wrote: »
    I disagree. Your position only makes sense if the mainstream is inherently good and worth protecting. If someone exhibits a behavior that is abnormal, the abnormality itself does not carry a moral burden. Only if it can be shown that the behavior is harmful or an indicator of harm (ie OCD) does it mandate a moral reaction.

    What's I'm trying to say is, take your ethnocentrism to France or Turkey. They love that shit over there.

    i'd say the opposite. all other things equal, it's preferable to err on the side of a coherent society. it doesn't mean that i want to round up everyone who is left handed into a camp, but it does mean that i am not being immoral by disapproving of the dude wearing a plush animal suit to work.

    But there is a practical concern with dude wearing a plush animal suit to work. If he's unable to work as well because he can't move as much or because clients will disapprove (ie you are at least to a degree selling an image) then there is a reason to prohibit the suit. But your argument seems to be that the suit itself, because other people don't wear them, somehow corrodes the foundation of society. Should we feel the same way about the foreign exchange student who wears a funny hat? Hey, foreigner! We don't take kindly to funny hats, not because we're reactionary bigots but because our democracy cannot stand such assaults.

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