Damnit. I struggled and wailed so much about trying to find information about whether or not my health trust pays for psychiatric visits that both my coworkers are now painfully aware that I am, in fact, seeking psychiatric help.
Fffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
And? Many of them probably could use some therapy of their own. The difference you're gonna get it.
It's embarassing as hell. One of them has very much had a hard childhood than I am and brags about how he got by all his life without any help. Here I've practically lived in idle comfort my entire life.
He's smarter than me and more fit than I am. I'm fat, slow, and constantly depressed.
Damnit. I struggled and wailed so much about trying to find information about whether or not my health trust pays for psychiatric visits that both my coworkers are now painfully aware that I am, in fact, seeking psychiatric help.
Fffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
And? Many of them probably could use some therapy of their own. The difference you're gonna get it.
It's embarassing as hell. One of them has very much had a hard childhood than I am and brags about how he got by all his life without any help. Here I've practically lived in idle comfort my entire life.
He's smarter than me and more fit than I am. I'm fat, slow, and constantly depressed.
other things i am unwilling to sort through the modern glut of bullshit to find gems:
american country music mystery novels
one-man stage shows
books about the iraq war
anything attempting to intellectually justify video games
and a bunch of other things
there's entire spheres of literature, music, art, etc. that i look at and go "maaaaan, i am not fucking bothering with going through all that. i'm sure there's good stuff in there, but maaaaan"
then i put on my headphones, listen to some lady gaga, and go get a hot dog
A sufficient, but not nescessary, condition for a good mystery novel: Does it feature one Hercule Poirot. Agatha Christie is good stuff.
If nothing else everyone should read Murder on the Orient Express. And Murder in Mesopotamia.
Pony, since you yourself have said that you know a great deal about poetry, perhaps you can explain what you dislike about Modern and Postmodern poetry (since apparently they are two monolithic agents) and then you can give some examples which you find to be so abhorrent.
naw, i'm good.
you know what i find more obnoxious than bad contemporary poetry?
trying to analyze and critique bad poetry on the internet with a philosophy major
so anyway, tell me about synthesizers
I love how Pony thinks so highly of himself.
And has, like, nothing to show for it.
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I don't know shit about poetry. But I like me some Coleridge. I like my rhymes about mariners. Bonus points if they're ancient.
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I wish I knew more about poetry. But I find it difficult to actually get into. Hopefully that will change someday.
Robert Pinsky -- The Sounds of Poetry
Eavan Boland -- The Making of a Poem
Cleanth Brooks -- The Well-Wrought Urn
Paul Fussell -- Poetic Meter and Poetic Form (possibly the best book ever written on poetic elements)
Damnit. I struggled and wailed so much about trying to find information about whether or not my health trust pays for psychiatric visits that both my coworkers are now painfully aware that I am, in fact, seeking psychiatric help.
Fffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
And? Many of them probably could use some therapy of their own. The difference you're gonna get it.
It's embarassing as hell. One of them has very much had a hard childhood than I am and brags about how he got by all his life without any help. Here I've practically lived in idle comfort my entire life.
He's smarter than me and more fit than I am. I'm fat, slow, and constantly depressed.
people's brains work differently
if you both had broken legs and his healed better than yours, you wouldn't look down on yourself as somehow less
Damnit. I struggled and wailed so much about trying to find information about whether or not my health trust pays for psychiatric visits that both my coworkers are now painfully aware that I am, in fact, seeking psychiatric help.
Fffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
And? Many of them probably could use some therapy of their own. The difference you're gonna get it.
It's embarassing as hell. One of them has very much had a hard childhood than I am and brags about how he got by all his life without any help. Here I've practically lived in idle comfort my entire life.
He's smarter than me and more fit than I am. I'm fat, slow, and constantly depressed.
people's brains work differently
if you both had broken legs and his healed better than yours, you wouldn't look down on yourself as somehow less
Damnit. I struggled and wailed so much about trying to find information about whether or not my health trust pays for psychiatric visits that both my coworkers are now painfully aware that I am, in fact, seeking psychiatric help.
Fffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
And? Many of them probably could use some therapy of their own. The difference you're gonna get it.
It's embarassing as hell. One of them has very much had a hard childhood than I am and brags about how he got by all his life without any help. Here I've practically lived in idle comfort my entire life.
He's smarter than me and more fit than I am. I'm fat, slow, and constantly depressed.
people's brains work differently
if you both had broken legs and his healed better than yours, you wouldn't look down on yourself as somehow less
Damnit. I struggled and wailed so much about trying to find information about whether or not my health trust pays for psychiatric visits that both my coworkers are now painfully aware that I am, in fact, seeking psychiatric help.
Fffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
And? Many of them probably could use some therapy of their own. The difference you're gonna get it.
It's embarassing as hell. One of them has very much had a hard childhood than I am and brags about how he got by all his life without any help. Here I've practically lived in idle comfort my entire life.
He's smarter than me and more fit than I am. I'm fat, slow, and constantly depressed.
people's brains work differently
if you both had broken legs and his healed better than yours, you wouldn't look down on yourself as somehow less
Actually, I think I would.
oh
well, go see a doctor so your leg-brain works better!
Damnit. I struggled and wailed so much about trying to find information about whether or not my health trust pays for psychiatric visits that both my coworkers are now painfully aware that I am, in fact, seeking psychiatric help.
Fffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
And? Many of them probably could use some therapy of their own. The difference you're gonna get it.
It's embarassing as hell. One of them has very much had a hard childhood than I am and brags about how he got by all his life without any help. Here I've practically lived in idle comfort my entire life.
He's smarter than me and more fit than I am. I'm fat, slow, and constantly depressed.
people's brains work differently
if you both had broken legs and his healed better than yours, you wouldn't look down on yourself as somehow less
Actually, I think I would.
oh
well, go see a doctor so your leg-brain works better!
:^: will do
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CindersWhose sails were black when it was windyRegistered Userregular
I wish I knew more about poetry. But I find it difficult to actually get into. Hopefully that will change someday.
Robert Pinsky -- The Sounds of Poetry
Eavan Boland -- The Making of a Poem
Cleanth Brooks -- The Well-Wrought Urn
Paul Fussell -- Poetic Meter and Poetic Form (possibly the best book ever written on poetic elements)
Thanks, I've added those books to my things to do notepad file.
I wish I knew more about poetry. But I find it difficult to actually get into. Hopefully that will change someday.
Robert Pinsky -- The Sounds of Poetry
Eavan Boland -- The Making of a Poem
Cleanth Brooks -- The Well-Wrought Urn
Paul Fussell -- Poetic Meter and Poetic Form (possibly the best book ever written on poetic elements)
Thanks, I've added those books to my things to do notepad file.
other things i am unwilling to sort through the modern glut of bullshit to find gems:
american country music mystery novels
one-man stage shows
books about the iraq war
anything attempting to intellectually justify video games
and a bunch of other things
there's entire spheres of literature, music, art, etc. that i look at and go "maaaaan, i am not fucking bothering with going through all that. i'm sure there's good stuff in there, but maaaaan"
then i put on my headphones, listen to some lady gaga, and go get a hot dog
A sufficient, but not nescessary, condition for a good mystery novel: Does it feature one Hercule Poirot. Agatha Christie is good stuff.
If nothing else everyone should read Murder on the Orient Express. And Murder in Mesopotamia.
there are some fantastic mystery novels that are currently being written and sold
fantastic
i can't name any off the top of my head, but there's just so many mystery novels in general i am sure they exist!
however, mystery is a section i walk right on by in my local book store because i just... i can't deal with the crappy ones anymore
and there are so many crappy ones.
i realized a long time ago that my level of general acceptance of a genre of art/film/music/literature whatever has actually very little to do with the general quality level of that genre and more to do with my tolerance level for the bullshit within that genre
mystery novels is one of those things where my tolerance is very low
I wish I knew more about poetry. But I find it difficult to actually get into. Hopefully that will change someday.
Robert Pinsky -- The Sounds of Poetry
Eavan Boland -- The Making of a Poem
Cleanth Brooks -- The Well-Wrought Urn
Paul Fussell -- Poetic Meter and Poetic Form (possibly the best book ever written on poetic elements)
Thanks, I've added those books to my things to do notepad file.
The first two are very introductory and breezy. The third one is a full-on "new criticism" but still easy reading. The fourth is a highly technical and dry reading if you don't care for meter. But if you think the difference between the iamb and the trochee is essential, then you will love it.
Damnit. I struggled and wailed so much about trying to find information about whether or not my health trust pays for psychiatric visits that both my coworkers are now painfully aware that I am, in fact, seeking psychiatric help.
Fffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
And? Many of them probably could use some therapy of their own. The difference you're gonna get it.
It's embarassing as hell. One of them has very much had a hard childhood than I am and brags about how he got by all his life without any help. Here I've practically lived in idle comfort my entire life.
He's smarter than me and more fit than I am. I'm fat, slow, and constantly depressed.
Making it through things in life without help isn't a huge point of honor. I spent most of my life fucking up and then trying to bull my way through dealing with it. With the problems that lead to my drinking, I thought I had successfully dealt with it until I came close to taking my own life. And even then I needed help to start getting help. Then after my marriage, I thought I had no choice to tough it out and just deal. That worked brilliantly until I almost drove myself nuts spending all of my time questioning my paranoia. And the whole time, I went through both things, I kept up a front that everything was fine. He may have made it through just fine. Some people do. More people make it through while presenting a face that everything is fine while they are broken and twisted on the inside.
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Podlyyou unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered Userregular
edited March 2010
wordcited would be a good name for a word processing program
I wish I knew more about poetry. But I find it difficult to actually get into. Hopefully that will change someday.
Robert Pinsky -- The Sounds of Poetry
Eavan Boland -- The Making of a Poem
Cleanth Brooks -- The Well-Wrought Urn
Paul Fussell -- Poetic Meter and Poetic Form (possibly the best book ever written on poetic elements)
Thanks, I've added those books to my things to do notepad file.
I wish I knew more about poetry. But I find it difficult to actually get into. Hopefully that will change someday.
Robert Pinsky -- The Sounds of Poetry
Eavan Boland -- The Making of a Poem
Cleanth Brooks -- The Well-Wrought Urn
Paul Fussell -- Poetic Meter and Poetic Form (possibly the best book ever written on poetic elements)
Thanks, I've added those books to my things to do notepad file.
The first two are very introductory and breezy. The third one is a full-on "new criticism" but still easy reading. The fourth is a highly technical and dry reading if you don't care for meter. But if you think the difference between the iamb and the trochee is essential, then you will love it.
Sweet, I'll have to wait till I get paid again to pick them up, but this sounds good.
anyway, the notion that someone is being irritated or dismissive by an entire swath of something or another is some kind of failure to know anything about it is sort of dumb.
a person could know a great deal about the subject, but just be sort of irritable and impatient with that thing and unwilling to really give much of it a fair shake out of nothing more than frustration.
which can lead to them making snippy remarks and generalized criticisms about that thing
it doesn't mean they don't know anything about it
just that they're annoyed
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LudiousI just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered Userregular
edited March 2010
How can you be an enlightened individual if you outright take an entire category of something and say "I dismiss this all because a lot of it is crap."
I hate country music, but I am not going to dismiss The Man in Black.
How can you be an enlightened individual if you outright take an entire category of something and say "I dismiss this all because a lot of it is crap."
I hate country music, but I am not going to dismiss The Man in Black.
people being ashamed of needing psychological help/looking down on people who need it is stupid as hell
it's brought out of these asinine ideas that all people's lives are equally measurable, therefore your need for professional help should be proportionate to how "hard" the lives are of people who do or do not need it.
"what do you need psychological help for? you came from a wealthy family where you were the only child and were spoiled and got to go to university and your dad set you up with a job at his firm. my life is so much worse, i grew up poor and lost a foot in a hiking accident and have had to deal with a disability all my life. i'm not depressed, what's your excuse?"
this sort of mindset is, in the words of the late ted kennedy
I wish I knew more about poetry. But I find it difficult to actually get into. Hopefully that will change someday.
Robert Pinsky -- The Sounds of Poetry
Eavan Boland -- The Making of a Poem
Cleanth Brooks -- The Well-Wrought Urn
Paul Fussell -- Poetic Meter and Poetic Form (possibly the best book ever written on poetic elements)
Thanks, I've added those books to my things to do notepad file.
The first two are very introductory and breezy. The third one is a full-on "new criticism" but still easy reading. The fourth is a highly technical and dry reading if you don't care for meter. But if you think the difference between the iamb and the trochee is essential, then you will love it.
Sweet, I'll have to wait till I get paid again to pick them up, but this sounds good.
apparently, Understanding Poetry by Cleanth Brooks and Robert Penn Warren is back in print. Unfortunately, it's $80. Keep your eyes peeled for it -- it was the major literary text book from about 1950-1970. It is absolutely amazing, but has fallen out of favor since the New Critics disappeared. I love my copy -- it is the best text to learn poetry.
How can you be an enlightened individual if you outright take an entire category of something and say "I dismiss this all because a lot of it is crap."
I hate country music, but I am not going to dismiss The Man in Black.
I don't get it.
how much country music do you listen to in the hopes of finding another Johnny Cash amongst the Toby Keiths and Dixie Chicks of the world?
i like johnny cash. i like dwight yokum. i like garth brooks, even!
i don't spend a great deal of time listening to country music, or investing any time in learning about new country music artists, because my tolerance level for the general "noise" of that genre is not sufficient enough to be patient to find the "signal" that appeals to me, so to speak.
so, i don't bother.
i would consider that being dismissive towards country music, wouldn't you say?
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It's embarassing as hell. One of them has very much had a hard childhood than I am and brags about how he got by all his life without any help. Here I've practically lived in idle comfort my entire life.
He's smarter than me and more fit than I am. I'm fat, slow, and constantly depressed.
A sufficient, but not nescessary, condition for a good mystery novel: Does it feature one Hercule Poirot. Agatha Christie is good stuff.
If nothing else everyone should read Murder on the Orient Express. And Murder in Mesopotamia.
I love how Pony thinks so highly of himself.
And has, like, nothing to show for it.
Robert Pinsky -- The Sounds of Poetry
Eavan Boland -- The Making of a Poem
Cleanth Brooks -- The Well-Wrought Urn
Paul Fussell -- Poetic Meter and Poetic Form (possibly the best book ever written on poetic elements)
people's brains work differently
if you both had broken legs and his healed better than yours, you wouldn't look down on yourself as somehow less
Actually, I think I would.
i did not expect to like this but i really did.
oh
well, go see a doctor so your leg-brain works better!
:^: will do
Thanks, I've added those books to my things to do notepad file.
You have a "things to do" notepad file?
there are some fantastic mystery novels that are currently being written and sold
fantastic
i can't name any off the top of my head, but there's just so many mystery novels in general i am sure they exist!
however, mystery is a section i walk right on by in my local book store because i just... i can't deal with the crappy ones anymore
and there are so many crappy ones.
i realized a long time ago that my level of general acceptance of a genre of art/film/music/literature whatever has actually very little to do with the general quality level of that genre and more to do with my tolerance level for the bullshit within that genre
mystery novels is one of those things where my tolerance is very low
especially compared to say, pop music
The first two are very introductory and breezy. The third one is a full-on "new criticism" but still easy reading. The fourth is a highly technical and dry reading if you don't care for meter. But if you think the difference between the iamb and the trochee is essential, then you will love it.
yay
as I said, there is some really good poetry among the Def Poetry seasons
Making it through things in life without help isn't a huge point of honor. I spent most of my life fucking up and then trying to bull my way through dealing with it. With the problems that lead to my drinking, I thought I had successfully dealt with it until I came close to taking my own life. And even then I needed help to start getting help. Then after my marriage, I thought I had no choice to tough it out and just deal. That worked brilliantly until I almost drove myself nuts spending all of my time questioning my paranoia. And the whole time, I went through both things, I kept up a front that everything was fine. He may have made it through just fine. Some people do. More people make it through while presenting a face that everything is fine while they are broken and twisted on the inside.
My mind is quite faulty. It helps.
Sweet, I'll have to wait till I get paid again to pick them up, but this sounds good.
a person could know a great deal about the subject, but just be sort of irritable and impatient with that thing and unwilling to really give much of it a fair shake out of nothing more than frustration.
which can lead to them making snippy remarks and generalized criticisms about that thing
it doesn't mean they don't know anything about it
just that they're annoyed
I hate country music, but I am not going to dismiss The Man in Black.
I don't get it.
What is this...
k'naan, what's hardcore
I think tim posted it a couple of pages back
Timeline of the october revolution
Military doctrine of Epsilon Eridani
Possible places to study
etc etc
Poldy: That's pretty likely. But how do you justify this.
Pony: Just trust me, brah.
God, I love Johnny Cash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP67H4qfe5w
it's brought out of these asinine ideas that all people's lives are equally measurable, therefore your need for professional help should be proportionate to how "hard" the lives are of people who do or do not need it.
"what do you need psychological help for? you came from a wealthy family where you were the only child and were spoiled and got to go to university and your dad set you up with a job at his firm. my life is so much worse, i grew up poor and lost a foot in a hiking accident and have had to deal with a disability all my life. i'm not depressed, what's your excuse?"
this sort of mindset is, in the words of the late ted kennedy
wick-ahd re-tah-ded
apparently, Understanding Poetry by Cleanth Brooks and Robert Penn Warren is back in print. Unfortunately, it's $80. Keep your eyes peeled for it -- it was the major literary text book from about 1950-1970. It is absolutely amazing, but has fallen out of favor since the New Critics disappeared. I love my copy -- it is the best text to learn poetry.
I thought he was pretty funny.
How's about you stop pretending you're the judge of what is worthy of time and attention.
how much country music do you listen to in the hopes of finding another Johnny Cash amongst the Toby Keiths and Dixie Chicks of the world?
i like johnny cash. i like dwight yokum. i like garth brooks, even!
i don't spend a great deal of time listening to country music, or investing any time in learning about new country music artists, because my tolerance level for the general "noise" of that genre is not sufficient enough to be patient to find the "signal" that appeals to me, so to speak.
so, i don't bother.
i would consider that being dismissive towards country music, wouldn't you say?
Chyeaa