(Also you apparently haven't read the second batch of role PMs if you didn't know I was a thief too, in case you passed them by and would like to read them).
Capfalcon died to the vote. If he hadn't, he would have used Last Drive, Sky Lasered Adventfalls, popped adrenaline, and shot Homing Vlads at Wildcat, Ringo, and The Cow King.
(Also you apparently haven't read the second batch of role PMs if you didn't know I was a thief too, in case you passed them by and would like to read them).
Burnage, would you mind posting what happened on the final day?
Capfalcon died to the vote. If he hadn't, he would have used Last Drive, Sky Lasered Adventfalls, popped adrenaline, and shot Homing Vlads at Wildcat, Ringo, and The Cow King.
The Cow King shot a Homing Vlad at Adventfalls.
simonwolf used a GEP Gun on jdarksun and Ringo.
Adventfalls shot The Cow King with a Seburo.
Wildcat used adrenaline, healed Ringo twice, and the Cow King once.
Ringo used adrenaline and then shot jdarksun, simonwolf and Adventfalls with a Colt.
jdarksun shot Ringo with a GEP Gun.
The best thing about this is how we all completely ignored Sir Fabulous.
I warned you about letting him be the last man standing, jdark!
well done team. im amazed we kept the vote where we wanted it for four days. day 1 we wiped out fiaryn and anon so that kay could snipe freely. then 2 days in a row he was a vote target and managed to move it.
then the next day its ringo on the block.
somehow we pulled through and managed to stay hidden until the infidel came on. question: who vladded me? was it capfalcon spilling to my 'teammate' rysk that i had a secret second action all game?
...of all three of the people I was "masoned" with on day 2....
....you were the most obvious :P
Yeah, wildcat told me.
Which is why you died
And both of the wintermute spies thought you were an infiltrator based upon information that a hacker had acquired, so they were just fine with me voting you out.
RingoHe/Hima distinct lack of substanceRegistered Userregular
edited June 2010
So my thoughts: This game was won or lost on the original builds. The only problem - you didn't actually know who you'd end up being masoned with. The fact that the mafia ended up with Two Double Snipers, Two Double Medics, a Double Hacker, and a Thief was a godsend. I was originally pissed when my ZenonAuto teammates neglected to follow my Double AoE build (seriously guys, NINE 140 DAMAGE ATTACKS ON DAY ONE) because it forced me to go the Double Sniper route in order to maximize my chances of staying alive. Boy was I lucky this happened. If I had been the only AoE build in the entire game, everybody would know who my targets were due to narration, and the mafia would've been much more likely to face exposure.
As for that, yeah we were overpowered in that we knew who you all were, and you didn't know we existed. If the Mafia had ended up with five "friends of the manager" builds, things might have been different though. I am pretty proud of us for not allowing the bandwagon to claim any of us. That was some hard work convincing you to kill yourselves. (the grudge line starts behind jdark and shushnik, guys)
Uhhh... what else? What was the Infidel win condition? Also, I really enjoyed the setting and the mechanics. I'd love to play this mini again, with the addition of the "corporate merger" function. That would have basically been a callback to Redemption, as it would've been up to the village to unite in the face of the hidden aggressor instead of killing each other.
There was some other stuff I thought I was going to say, but that was hours ago and I forgot it. I had a lot of fun, even just on Day Zero. Like I said at signups: I don't want to stop playing!
Thanks Burnage!
Philby+Angleton=Forever We did it!
PS: The Last Drive/Homing Vlad 'Game Ends in a Draw' reveal: Was I merely entertaining myself, or did anyone else get a kick out of that?
o_O Weren't you in Vigint? Were you reading my posts on the proboards? I was in contact with them from Day 1 and had figured out the pattern to the thralls around Day 2 once one of our two moles died.
However, I couldn't do anything publicly since I was still trying to weed out the 2nd and last mole in our corp (namely, Kay).
AegisFear My DanceOvershot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered Userregular
edited June 2010
Re: Ringo's questioning of my grudging him.
I was receiving information about your targets through my informants about you and your plans on the day I was killed. Given how I died I was completely convinced you just utterly outplayed me and passed along false information (you kept target switching so much) and instead killed me.
AegisFear My DanceOvershot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered Userregular
edited June 2010
I will also say, I was completely wrong about Vigint's second mole. Psolms had me convinced something shifty was going on, but I had no proof. And delving into our networks only confirmed REG_Rysk. So I took the 50/50 gamble and contacted Kay.
RingoHe/Hima distinct lack of substanceRegistered Userregular
edited June 2010
Psolms and Kay were both Posthuman Aegis.
You were screwed from the getgo
t Fiaryn, Yup. Speedfreak was the game, and I marveled at how many people failed to realize this. Though I will say, looking at the build you have constructed on the Macro board - that was a sweet ass idea.
the factions I was spying in and spying for weren't even real villager factions save for like 1-2 persons?
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AegisFear My DanceOvershot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered Userregular
edited June 2010
Wait, they were evil to start?
I thought that only happened later in the game?
Well goddamnit.
Also, I have never been a network contact-man before. It was intimidating as all hell, though having absolutely no chance to succeed kind of deflates me.
t Fiaryn, Yup. Speedfreak was the game, and I marveled at how many people failed to realize this. Though I will say, looking at the build you have constructed on the Macro board - that was a sweet ass idea.
If I'd known how incredibly limited items were going to be (shit ran out fast) I would have built myself drastically differently.
Get Vision Augmentation and Memetic Reactions (easily done as Mafia), congratulations you now have 200 HP and two attacks per round at triple damage. Get yourself a Coil Sniper and annihilate the entire fucking game.
Get Vision Augmentation and Memetic Reactions (easily done as Mafia), congratulations you now have 200 HP and two attacks per round at triple damage. Get yourself a Coil Sniper and annihilate the entire fucking game.
Yeah, we didn't know about the extra stuff (or even being Posthuman) until after finalizing our original builds. I dreamed about having 200 health that first night.
the factions I was spying in and spying for weren't even real villager factions save for like 1-2 persons?
At least you weren't one of the six unfortunate souls who didn't have any handlers and thus thought that the 4 people listed faction were largely on your side.
aegis: this game would have ended quicker (and prossibly infidel would not have been released) had you given out the names of vigint's infiltrators. because we spent the entire second day trying to find out who would raise fiaryn and preventing that from happening. we thought it was going to be vag winds.
out of curiosity, who did raise fiaryn? and more importantly, why?
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KayWhat we need...Is a little bit of PANIC.Registered Userregular
edited June 2010
I'm sorry, Fiaryn.
I'm sorry, Rawkking.
I think I shall take a phalla break until this blows over. Nudging the bandwagons away from me on two days, then starting a counter-bandwagon to save a mafia member will really rebound on me next game, I think. Grudges are silly.
This game was an absolute rush. Thanks, Burnage. I think it was tipped a little in the Posthuman faction's favour, though!
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AegisFear My DanceOvershot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered Userregular
aegis: this game would have ended quicker (and prossibly infidel would not have been released) had you given out the names of vigint's infiltrators. because we spent the entire second day trying to find out who would raise fiaryn and preventing that from happening. we thought it was going to be vag winds.
out of curiosity, who did raise fiaryn? and more importantly, why?
Hooray, I was useful even if the eventual evil win still succeeded!
No idea who raised Fiaryn. vag_winds was tasked by Ringo to bring back Phyphor on that day. Fiaryn coming back I had absolutely no information about since he was outside my sphere of information.
Yeah, sorry about that Rawkking. If it helps any, I did actually heal you when I said I did. I just healed my secret mafia buddies with my secret extra action at the same time. :P I felt bad about misleading you and also shalmelo, so sorry to the two of you.
Edit: Also how did Wildcat survive my attack? I'm curious.
Tough Guy plus being healed.
Ah. I didn't realize healing and damage were accounted for simultaneously.
Thankfully! Also Determination's damage reduction, possibly. I'd been in fear of you and Gumpy for a lot of the game, since I'd heard you were both looking into killing me.
By the way, I think the VigInt proboards might still be locked.
Fun fact: I only got a gun on the last day, and did not actually deal any damage to any player other than via the vote.
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Hey, every augment in the game is nothing to sneeze at.
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Try being the only non-mafia thief.
(Also you apparently haven't read the second batch of role PMs if you didn't know I was a thief too, in case you passed them by and would like to read them).
R_K, you have no idea how much I agree with that statement
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ZenonAuto and Anti Infidel Group are both here: http://fullyauto.proboards.com/index.cgi
The Posthuman Order, if anyone missed it, is here: http://beyondhumanityphalla.proboards.com/index.cgi
Oooooooooooooh.
Sorry I thought you were only a hacker.
Finally to indulge my curiosity further
hackers who made it into A9 later in the game would have also been infidel AI converted, right?
The best thing about this is how we all completely ignored Sir Fabulous.
I warned you about letting him be the last man standing, jdark!
then the next day its ringo on the block.
somehow we pulled through and managed to stay hidden until the infidel came on. question: who vladded me? was it capfalcon spilling to my 'teammate' rysk that i had a secret second action all game?
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Nope, that would have been a draw.
Nope, they would have found an empty server.
thats what i figured when ringo said you were possessed.
But it would have been a glorious draw.
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...of all three of the people I was "masoned" with on day 2....
....you were the most obvious :P
Yeah, wildcat told me.
Which is why you died
And both of the wintermute spies thought you were an infiltrator based upon information that a hacker had acquired, so they were just fine with me voting you out.
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As for that, yeah we were overpowered in that we knew who you all were, and you didn't know we existed. If the Mafia had ended up with five "friends of the manager" builds, things might have been different though. I am pretty proud of us for not allowing the bandwagon to claim any of us. That was some hard work convincing you to kill yourselves. (the grudge line starts behind jdark and shushnik, guys)
Uhhh... what else? What was the Infidel win condition? Also, I really enjoyed the setting and the mechanics. I'd love to play this mini again, with the addition of the "corporate merger" function. That would have basically been a callback to Redemption, as it would've been up to the village to unite in the face of the hidden aggressor instead of killing each other.
There was some other stuff I thought I was going to say, but that was hours ago and I forgot it. I had a lot of fun, even just on Day Zero. Like I said at signups: I don't want to stop playing!
Thanks Burnage!
Philby+Angleton=Forever We did it!
PS: The Last Drive/Homing Vlad 'Game Ends in a Draw' reveal: Was I merely entertaining myself, or did anyone else get a kick out of that?
o_O Weren't you in Vigint? Were you reading my posts on the proboards? I was in contact with them from Day 1 and had figured out the pattern to the thralls around Day 2 once one of our two moles died.
However, I couldn't do anything publicly since I was still trying to weed out the 2nd and last mole in our corp (namely, Kay).
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BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
Wintermute was screwed from the start.
We did have one less infiltrator but fffff.
Did you somehow come to the conclusion that I'm the one who doubletapped you?
Because I did!
I was receiving information about your targets through my informants about you and your plans on the day I was killed. Given how I died I was completely convinced you just utterly outplayed me and passed along false information (you kept target switching so much) and instead killed me.
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I knew it.
I just knew it too late
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Ultimately, Speed Freak was the game decider.
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I hate the dice
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You picked the absolute best time to kill me. If you had waited one more day I'd have been able to survive your double-tap.
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You were screwed from the getgo
t Fiaryn, Yup. Speedfreak was the game, and I marveled at how many people failed to realize this. Though I will say, looking at the build you have constructed on the Macro board - that was a sweet ass idea.
the factions I was spying in and spying for weren't even real villager factions save for like 1-2 persons?
I thought that only happened later in the game?
Well goddamnit.
Also, I have never been a network contact-man before. It was intimidating as all hell, though having absolutely no chance to succeed kind of deflates me.
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If I'd known how incredibly limited items were going to be (shit ran out fast) I would have built myself drastically differently.
White FC: 0819 3350 1787
Pretty much this. The most powerful build by far would be, I think...
Quick Draw, Sharpshooter, Tough Guy, <Upgraded Tough Guy>.
Get Vision Augmentation and Memetic Reactions (easily done as Mafia), congratulations you now have 200 HP and two attacks per round at triple damage. Get yourself a Coil Sniper and annihilate the entire fucking game.
White FC: 0819 3350 1787
then apparently I was an infiltrator. I cursed. Why do I pick support roles in burnage phallas
edit: supporting mafia factions
Yeah, we didn't know about the extra stuff (or even being Posthuman) until after finalizing our original builds. I dreamed about having 200 health that first night.
I asked Burnage a clarification on Day 1 about "nested thralls". He denied the request.
I'm a freaking clairvoyant apparently.
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I knew this was coming
At least you weren't one of the six unfortunate souls who didn't have any handlers and thus thought that the 4 people listed faction were largely on your side.
out of curiosity, who did raise fiaryn? and more importantly, why?
I'm sorry, Rawkking.
I think I shall take a phalla break until this blows over. Nudging the bandwagons away from me on two days, then starting a counter-bandwagon to save a mafia member will really rebound on me next game, I think. Grudges are silly.
This game was an absolute rush. Thanks, Burnage. I think it was tipped a little in the Posthuman faction's favour, though!
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Hooray, I was useful even if the eventual evil win still succeeded!
No idea who raised Fiaryn. vag_winds was tasked by Ringo to bring back Phyphor on that day. Fiaryn coming back I had absolutely no information about since he was outside my sphere of information.
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Here's to our success, Mr Angleton!
Ah, so you ended up with the pretty bow, eh?
Yeah, sorry about that Rawkking. If it helps any, I did actually heal you when I said I did. I just healed my secret mafia buddies with my secret extra action at the same time. :P I felt bad about misleading you and also shalmelo, so sorry to the two of you.
Thankfully! Also Determination's damage reduction, possibly. I'd been in fear of you and Gumpy for a lot of the game, since I'd heard you were both looking into killing me.
By the way, I think the VigInt proboards might still be locked.
Fun fact: I only got a gun on the last day, and did not actually deal any damage to any player other than via the vote.
Edit: and an even more fitting Deus Ex clip:
Post-Human Monstrosities Unite!