B: In the film they mention the bomb they are carrying has the mass of Manhattan Island and took 7 years to mine the entire earths supply of fissile material. Its really fucking huge is the point. Originally Garland wanted it to be the size of Kansas I think, but that was undoable.
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Man, what?
They are going to bore a whole into the sun and blow it up, Armageddon style? That's even stupider. After it blows up is something supposed to fuel it to keep the whole sun burning?
Also, lets say this was actually possible, I think the bomb would have to be like 10 times that size for it to work.
As someone said.
Think of the sun as a room full of gas.
And the bomb as the match.
And falling towards to sun accelerates the ship to phenomenal speeds, though they do not intent to bore to the centre of the sun, barely scratching the surface. After all, the outer layers are only 3000 degrees, but getting past the corona is the main undertaking (its like a million degrees)
I don't think any of that shit is even possible. If the sun died out we would just float away from it because it's made of gas not a giant fiery rock or some shit.
What the..? Are you really this dumb? What does the fusion reaction taking place have at all to do with the mass of the sun?
It's like this:
If the sun burned out that means there is no gas left to fuel it.
So there is nothing for us to be gravitationally attracted to.
So we would all die and our planet would like, float away.
no because the sun just fuses hydrogen into helium
I don't think any of that shit is even possible. If the sun died out we would just float away from it because it's made of gas not a giant fiery rock or some shit.
What the..? Are you really this dumb? What does the fusion reaction taking place have at all to do with the mass of the sun?
It's like this:
If the sun burned out that means there is no gas left to fuel it.
So there is nothing for us to be gravitationally attracted to.
So we would all die and our planet would like, float away.
So very wrong.
Please look at the sun on wikipedia as to how it works.
I don't think any of that shit is even possible. If the sun died out we would just float away from it because it's made of gas not a giant fiery rock or some shit.
What the..? Are you really this dumb? What does the fusion reaction taking place have at all to do with the mass of the sun?
It's like this:
If the sun burned out that means there is no gas left to fuel it.
So there is nothing for us to be gravitationally attracted to.
So we would all die and our planet would like, float away.
no because the sun just fuses hydrogen into helium
IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY DESTROY MATTER
BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE
I was looking for a picture of Luke Skywalker yelling THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE
I don't think any of that shit is even possible. If the sun died out we would just float away from it because it's made of gas not a giant fiery rock or some shit.
What the..? Are you really this dumb? What does the fusion reaction taking place have at all to do with the mass of the sun?
It's like this:
If the sun burned out that means there is no gas left to fuel it.
So there is nothing for us to be gravitationally attracted to.
So we would all die and our planet would like, float away.
Ok, yeah. You really are that dumb. Do you understand how fusion works? First of all, we're not just talking about burning gas, we're talking about hydrogen being condensed at high pressure (due to the mass of the sun) and then a fusion reaction converting the hydrogen into helium and giving off energy in the process. Most of the mass is conserved in the process, it doesn't just magically disappear. Maybe I'm assuming that you're further along in your education than you actually are. I could understand if you don't know this shit if you're Jr. High or below, but if you're an adult or even in high school this shit is pretty basic and straightforward. Conservation of energy and mass buddy.
[spoilar] the real film is not about the premise but about the journey and interactions and such[/spoiler]
Of course. Pretty much any film is about something more abstract than the actual plot. I mean, fuck, Meet The Parents was about the discomfort of being an outsider and trying hard to fit in. Some people liked it, whether or not it was Oscar-worthy or whatever, and any value it did have would've been flushed down the crapper if it had just been a gag reel of all the punchlines in the movie without the characters and the setup. What really made the jokes work wasn't Ben Still doing stupid shit, it was Ben Stiller being an exaggeration of a guy who's in a position we've all been in before.
So the film isn't literally about the science of re-igniting the sun. That's fine. And the whole "sun" thing is just Man vs Nature. That's OK too. It's just a stage on which to put characters, it's just a big metaphor. Fine. But it has to be believable! The audience must not be made to go "no fuckin way, that's stupid" at the idea.
I don't think any of that shit is even possible. If the sun died out we would just float away from it because it's made of gas not a giant fiery rock or some shit.
What the..? Are you really this dumb? What does the fusion reaction taking place have at all to do with the mass of the sun?
It's like this:
If the sun burned out that means there is no gas left to fuel it.
So there is nothing for us to be gravitationally attracted to.
So we would all die and our planet would like, float away.
Ok, yeah. You really are that dumb. Do you understand how fusion works? First of all, we're not just talking about burning gas, we're talking about hydrogen being condensed at high pressure (due to the mass of the sun) and then a fusion reaction converting the hydrogen into helium and giving off energy in the process. Most of the mass is conserved in the process, it doesn't just magically disappear. Maybe I'm assuming that you're further along in your education than you actually are. I could understand if you don't know this shit if you're Jr. High or below, but if you're an adult or even in high school this shit is pretty basic and straightforward. Conservation of energy and mass buddy.
Listen to this otterfaced fishyman.
When you burn fuel, it doesn't just disappear. If you'd like to experiment with this, sit in your garage with the doors and windows shut and just idle your car. If the fuel is actually totally destroyed, you will not notice anything except a temperature increase.
They are piloting a giant spacecraft with a bomb on it. The bomb is really big.
They plan on flying it into the sun and detonating it.
Somehow this lights the sun back up.
What they're really saying is, it's a fucking film. Not a science documentary. And the stuff you said was dumb. Then again, so was what some other people said. It wouldn't be like lighting gas back on fire, they would theoretically be trying to initiate a chain fusion reaction that would then spread through the remaining hydrogen. This raises other questions but I reiterate, it's a fucking movie.
Man vs nature isn't the problem. It's that the "nature" side is too ridiculous to excuse.
It's based on a theory that is currently in the process of being proven by the CERN labs in Switzerland.
The theory that the sun, which burns due to incredible amounts of gravity (enough to overcome nuclear forces) could possibly just stop burning and need to git blowed up to re-ignite?
Shit, who writes the grant checks to the CERN? I want some of them free moneys.
They are piloting a giant spacecraft with a bomb on it. The bomb is really big.
They plan on flying it into the sun and detonating it.
Somehow this lights the sun back up.
What they're really saying is, it's a fucking film. Not a science documentary. And the stuff you said was dumb. Then again, so was what some other people said. It wouldn't be like lighting gas back on fire, they would theoretically be trying to initiate a chain fusion reaction that would then spread through the remaining hydrogen. This raises other questions but I reiterate, it's a fucking movie.
I agree that it doesn't need to be scientifically valid. We all just accept The Force and Hyperspace in Star Wars, or teleportation and Warp Drives in Star Trek, or whatever else. But this film's premise is just so obviously impossible that it's making people go "I don't buy it" right off the bat, and that's not OK.
[spoilar] the real film is not about the premise but about the journey and interactions and such[/spoiler]
Of course. Pretty much any film is about something more abstract than the actual plot. I mean, fuck, Meet The Parents was about the discomfort of being an outsider and trying hard to fit in. Some people liked it, whether or not it was Oscar-worthy or whatever, and any value it did have would've been flushed down the crapper if it had just been a gag reel of all the punchlines in the movie without the characters and the setup. What really made the jokes work wasn't Ben Still doing stupid shit, it was Ben Stiller being an exaggeration of a guy who's in a position we've all been in before.
So the film isn't literally about the science of re-igniting the sun. That's fine. And the whole "sun" thing is just Man vs Nature. That's OK too. It's just a stage on which to put characters, it's just a big metaphor. Fine. But it has to be believable! The audience must not be made to go "no fuckin way, that's stupid" at the idea.
not what i mean. surely you can learn to overlook the absurdity of the film's premise, and it is absurd, if the film itself is not totally about that. well, this film, from what i have gathered, is barely about that at all.
like a zombie movie. oh yeah, dead walking the streets, yeah, very likely.
They are piloting a giant spacecraft with a bomb on it. The bomb is really big.
They plan on flying it into the sun and detonating it.
Somehow this lights the sun back up.
What they're really saying is, it's a fucking film. Not a science documentary. And the stuff you said was dumb. Then again, so was what some other people said. It wouldn't be like lighting gas back on fire, they would theoretically be trying to initiate a chain fusion reaction that would then spread through the remaining hydrogen. This raises other questions but I reiterate, it's a fucking movie.
I agree that it doesn't need to be scientifically valid. We all just accept The Force and Hyperspace in Star Wars, or teleportation and Warp Drives in Star Trek, or whatever else. But this film's premise is just so obviously impossible that it's making people go "I don't buy it" right off the bat, and that's not OK.
I just dont see whats so improbable about it.
Sure it is improbable, literally, but its not wild lunacy. The ship itself does look like it was fucking built to visit the sun. Its basically one giant mirror.
Still, I agree. Reigniting the sun might be beyond some peoples imaginations. I think its kinda cool.
REAL SPOILER
There is a great scene as the final shot of the film, where Sydney is all covered in snow and ice. nad the sun is really dim in the sky. really looked good
This sequel looks sort of dumb. I hope its good though. SA loves his zombies.
Katchem_Ash didn't refer to himself in the third person enough, so I'm glad you're helping us to meet that quota.
;-)
Why are we talking about Katchem_Ash?
Because you just referred to yourself in the third person, which he's been doing a hell of a lot lately. It's a stylistic similarity OH MY GOD HE'S YOUR ALT blah blah
They are piloting a giant spacecraft with a bomb on it. The bomb is really big.
They plan on flying it into the sun and detonating it.
Somehow this lights the sun back up.
What they're really saying is, it's a fucking film. Not a science documentary. And the stuff you said was dumb. Then again, so was what some other people said. It wouldn't be like lighting gas back on fire, they would theoretically be trying to initiate a chain fusion reaction that would then spread through the remaining hydrogen. This raises other questions but I reiterate, it's a fucking movie.
I agree that it doesn't need to be scientifically valid. We all just accept The Force and Hyperspace in Star Wars, or teleportation and Warp Drives in Star Trek, or whatever else. But this film's premise is just so obviously impossible that it's making people go "I don't buy it" right off the bat, and that's not OK.
I just dont see whats so improbable about it.
Sure it is improbable, literally, but its not wild lunacy. The ship itself does look like it was fucking built to visit the sun. Its basically one giant mirror.
Still, I agree. Reigniting the sun might be beyond some peoples imaginations. I think its kinda cool.
REAL SPOILER
There is a great scene as the final shot of the film, where Sydney is all covered in snow and ice. nad the sun is really dim in the sky. really looked good
no
it's wild lunacy
it just seems like it's possible because it doesn't have people firing fireballs from their hands
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As someone said.
Think of the sun as a room full of gas.
And the bomb as the match.
And falling towards to sun accelerates the ship to phenomenal speeds, though they do not intent to bore to the centre of the sun, barely scratching the surface. After all, the outer layers are only 3000 degrees, but getting past the corona is the main undertaking (its like a million degrees)
no because the sun just fuses hydrogen into helium
IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY DESTROY MATTER
BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE
But my bullshit makes way more sense than lets go blow up the sun to make it catch on fire and we can live YAY
So very wrong.
Please look at the sun on wikipedia as to how it works.
actually no. you dont seem to be hearing what people are telling you.
they dont intend to blow up the sun.
they dont intend to make it catch on fire.
you are really stupid. come back when you want to enjoy a grown up conversation.
I was looking for a picture of Luke Skywalker yelling THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE
Somehow Google Images found this
I am not complaining
Those things are rude.
It's based on a theory that is currently in the process of being proven by the CERN labs in Switzerland.
It is also a very awesome movie.
Now you shut up and go see it.
Seriously, people...
Bout the rudest titties I've seen in a dogs age
Of course. Pretty much any film is about something more abstract than the actual plot. I mean, fuck, Meet The Parents was about the discomfort of being an outsider and trying hard to fit in. Some people liked it, whether or not it was Oscar-worthy or whatever, and any value it did have would've been flushed down the crapper if it had just been a gag reel of all the punchlines in the movie without the characters and the setup. What really made the jokes work wasn't Ben Still doing stupid shit, it was Ben Stiller being an exaggeration of a guy who's in a position we've all been in before.
So the film isn't literally about the science of re-igniting the sun. That's fine. And the whole "sun" thing is just Man vs Nature. That's OK too. It's just a stage on which to put characters, it's just a big metaphor. Fine. But it has to be believable! The audience must not be made to go "no fuckin way, that's stupid" at the idea.
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They are piloting a giant spacecraft with a bomb on it. The bomb is really big.
They plan on flying it into the sun and detonating it.
Somehow this lights the sun back up.
so sorry
it's nonsense
but it's not quite as stupid as you thought
So what
Listen to this otterfaced fishyman.
When you burn fuel, it doesn't just disappear. If you'd like to experiment with this, sit in your garage with the doors and windows shut and just idle your car. If the fuel is actually totally destroyed, you will not notice anything except a temperature increase.
how about you dont post inline NSFW images in the next thread ok. ass.
The day you make an intelligent post is the day those images are NSFW.
And I really am stupid about the whole fusion thing, and was definitely pulling shit out of my ass that I thought made sense.
The theory that the sun, which burns due to incredible amounts of gravity (enough to overcome nuclear forces) could possibly just stop burning and need to git blowed up to re-ignite?
Shit, who writes the grant checks to the CERN? I want some of them free moneys.
Haha might want to research that with my current and previous girlfriends.
"girl"friends
do you see the point i'm making here
also you said you look like tobey maguire
and if so i'd legitimately sleep with you on account of being cute!
I agree that it doesn't need to be scientifically valid. We all just accept The Force and Hyperspace in Star Wars, or teleportation and Warp Drives in Star Trek, or whatever else. But this film's premise is just so obviously impossible that it's making people go "I don't buy it" right off the bat, and that's not OK.
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I appreciate that you think I'm cute. I assure you that (with my previous hairstyle) the resemblance was very strong. Cal and Shoe will back this up.
I do believe that you're implying that my girlfriends have all been male because I am gay. Not sure where you got that, but OK.
no i'm saying they were girls which makes it a different deal
Katchem_Ash didn't refer to himself in the third person enough, so I'm glad you're helping us to meet that quota.
;-)
not what i mean. surely you can learn to overlook the absurdity of the film's premise, and it is absurd, if the film itself is not totally about that. well, this film, from what i have gathered, is barely about that at all.
like a zombie movie. oh yeah, dead walking the streets, yeah, very likely.
I just dont see whats so improbable about it.
Sure it is improbable, literally, but its not wild lunacy. The ship itself does look like it was fucking built to visit the sun. Its basically one giant mirror.
Still, I agree. Reigniting the sun might be beyond some peoples imaginations. I think its kinda cool.
REAL SPOILER
Why are we talking about Katchem_Ash?
3DS: 5241-1953-7031
Because you just referred to yourself in the third person, which he's been doing a hell of a lot lately. It's a stylistic similarity OH MY GOD HE'S YOUR ALT blah blah
We cant talk about him anymore. He is That_Which_Must_Not_Be_Named, according to CT.
no
it's wild lunacy
it just seems like it's possible because it doesn't have people firing fireballs from their hands