no sentries in single player. So yeah, mostly just the deathball + hero units. 15+ collossi would dish out the major damage to ground, then stalkers could blink forward to take out air units quick and provide a bit of a meat shield
also taking out broodlords before they get to any ground stuff
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edited September 2010
I used DT blocks, phoenix/void ray/carrier. So many carriers!
And infinite cannons w/ colossus in back.
I didn't take the gold expo. If you don't need the archive part of the mission, you can immediately fall back if you want. 2 ramps right next to each other is a lot easier.
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edited September 2010
I can't seem to get gas in fast enough to do what you guys do but I'll try again.
Don't build anything but dts, holding off by blocking your left and right entrances with 6, and having a ball of the rest of your dts up top. The other units you start with + what the heroes warp in with should be enough to hold the bottom for a very long time, just make sure you snipe the overseers, build two more robobays and have each with a rally point to where the first three are positioned to give advanced warning of seers.
cannons
cannons everywhere
once it gets too ridiculous bring everything back to your ramps, you should have already won by this point, and now you just need to hold on for the extra kills, defend one ramp with all your air and regular units and have your dts on the other.
High templar are better for this leg, but not necessary.
edit: And I mean cannons EVERYWHERE. Everywhere you can build them. this'll take care of the nydus worms as well as cover your fallback to your ramps later.
Probably has to do with your total points. I'm like 8-1 vs diamond players in this past week and I still haven't moved up because I don't play 1v1 ladder a whole lot.
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edited September 2010
Keep in mind those higher rank players could be on losing streaks/not where they're supposed to be.
Not trying to pee on your cheerios, but I'd imagine they pit people better than their leagues vs. those doing not so well to see where everyone should be.
It'll even out eventually.
What pisses me off is not having an option to wait around for people in your specific league. I want some rivalries damnit!
I played some guy twice in a row today. It was good because I did something stupid the first game(base race on scrap, forgot to rebuild a hatch on the island and got defeated) and really worked him over the next.
Near the beginning of the game I just played, my mouse hand felt asleep. It's not a pleasant thing to happen while playing. This game makes me so anxious!
I had a dream where I had a 70% win rate against mostly diamond players and it still wouldn't promote me.
oh wait, it wasn't a dream!
If you've already had your "adjustment" period pass you by, then you're probably F-ed until next Season; my understanding is that it double checks you once after you first place, randomly after about 30 games, and then never does again until the season reset.
I had a dream where I had a 70% win rate against mostly diamond players and it still wouldn't promote me.
oh wait, it wasn't a dream!
If you've already had your "adjustment" period pass you by, then you're probably F-ed until next Season; my understanding is that it double checks you once after you first place, randomly after about 30 games, and then never does again until the season reset.
Oh I don't have 30 games yet. I know my lack of games is the reason I haven't been promoted yet, I just like gloating.
I had a dream where I had a 70% win rate against mostly diamond players and it still wouldn't promote me.
oh wait, it wasn't a dream!
If you've already had your "adjustment" period pass you by, then you're probably F-ed until next Season; my understanding is that it double checks you once after you first place, randomly after about 30 games, and then never does again until the season reset.
Oh I don't have 30 games yet. I know my lack of games is the reason I haven't been promoted yet, I just like gloating.
Really? I would have thought with as much as you seem to play you would have blown way past it by now.
Edit: I should emphasis it's random between like 10 games and 30, so generally it hits after about 20-some-ish.
I haven't played this game hardly at all. It's quickly become like WoW for me; something I vaguely want to work on, but always find other shit I'd rather do.
I still love the game, but getting up the gumption to play it is difficult.
phoenixes do so little damage to brolords on brutal in the final protoss mission. Void Rays, on the other hand are baller and rape everything because they will pretty much always be charged.
It's not a level that you should aspire to beating "legitimately".
Well, I mean I meant without debug tools and such.
It's a whole lot easier to get the achievements when none of your dudes take damage and deal 10 times normal damage and also you can spam nukes all over the map whenever you want and none of that disables achievements because lol debug tools.
ButtersA glass of some milksRegistered Userregular
edited September 2010
I finally beat it but I think Dodgeblan is right and phoenixes after a while become a bit of a waste. If I ever try it again for the 2500 (big if) I might just go with void rays and carriers as the only airpowr after the first few minutes.
I recall it being on the radar and people at work making jokes about all types of shit being the "secret 1%" (there is no secret 1%), but I haven't exactly followed the progress of it super close and I'm on vacation right now, so I really got no idea when they plan to have it fixed.
I finally beat it but I think Dodgeblan is right and phoenixes after a while become a bit of a waste. If I ever try it again for the 2500 (big if) I might just go with void rays and carriers as the only airpowr after the first few minutes.
You can't beuild either of these things until like 5 and 10 minutes in respectively.
When their respective hero units warp in, the tech unlocks for you.
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I built 200/200 food worth of colossi and phoenixes. it was pretty boring on brutal honestly I had to sit there and wait like 3 minutes after 2500 kills for them to kill off my army.
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Block paths with DTs and get lots of phoenix to kill off overseers and lift up the big dudes.
Or
Block your ramps with gateways and tons of cannons and pump colossus then voidrays when they're available.
Also note that you do no start with saturated minerals and you will have to pump some probes for a while.
I went through and tried some other peoples strategies after for fun, but found it way harder. Guess it really depends what people are good with
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Can you even build sentries? I forget.
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lifting up the hybrids woo
also taking out broodlords before they get to any ground stuff
And infinite cannons w/ colossus in back.
I didn't take the gold expo. If you don't need the archive part of the mission, you can immediately fall back if you want. 2 ramps right next to each other is a lot easier.
I think I was 45 away.
Don't build anything but dts, holding off by blocking your left and right entrances with 6, and having a ball of the rest of your dts up top. The other units you start with + what the heroes warp in with should be enough to hold the bottom for a very long time, just make sure you snipe the overseers, build two more robobays and have each with a rally point to where the first three are positioned to give advanced warning of seers.
cannons
cannons everywhere
once it gets too ridiculous bring everything back to your ramps, you should have already won by this point, and now you just need to hold on for the extra kills, defend one ramp with all your air and regular units and have your dts on the other.
High templar are better for this leg, but not necessary.
edit: And I mean cannons EVERYWHERE. Everywhere you can build them. this'll take care of the nydus worms as well as cover your fallback to your ramps later.
I'm not sure how they calculate this thing but it's pretty silly.
Not trying to pee on your cheerios, but I'd imagine they pit people better than their leagues vs. those doing not so well to see where everyone should be.
It'll even out eventually.
What pisses me off is not having an option to wait around for people in your specific league. I want some rivalries damnit!
Boy this game sure is intense.
This is probably the most exciting game ever!
If you've already had your "adjustment" period pass you by, then you're probably F-ed until next Season; my understanding is that it double checks you once after you first place, randomly after about 30 games, and then never does again until the season reset.
Yeah, same deal, if you got promoted to Diamond after being in Gold, you're stuck until the season reset. =P
Oh I don't have 30 games yet. I know my lack of games is the reason I haven't been promoted yet, I just like gloating.
Really? I would have thought with as much as you seem to play you would have blown way past it by now.
Edit: I should emphasis it's random between like 10 games and 30, so generally it hits after about 20-some-ish.
Also I enjoy practicing builds with people in yabot more than I like actually playing.
I haven't played this game hardly at all. It's quickly become like WoW for me; something I vaguely want to work on, but always find other shit I'd rather do.
I still love the game, but getting up the gumption to play it is difficult.
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I don't believe I have ever beat it legitimately on Hard, even.
Well, I mean I meant without debug tools and such.
It's a whole lot easier to get the achievements when none of your dudes take damage and deal 10 times normal damage and also you can spam nukes all over the map whenever you want and none of that disables achievements because lol debug tools.
Also, when is my campaign completion going to read 100%!?
I recall it being on the radar and people at work making jokes about all types of shit being the "secret 1%" (there is no secret 1%), but I haven't exactly followed the progress of it super close and I'm on vacation right now, so I really got no idea when they plan to have it fixed.
You can't beuild either of these things until like 5 and 10 minutes in respectively.
When their respective hero units warp in, the tech unlocks for you.
:P
It sounded like you were saying something that wasn't possible.
FUCK THIS MAN, I'M GOING TO HAVE BREAKFAST
Oh man, you wish you could have some of my awesome breakfast. I'm taking a camera, that's how pretentiously delicious I bet this breakfast will be.
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