ITT: people complain about a series they didn't actually play.
I pretty much disregard any post made by someone I don't recognize from the CoD thread.
Anyways, I don't give a shit about the SP. It's fun for six hours, and that's it. If they put more time into the single player than they do the multiplayer, they've made a huge mistake. I'd almost rather them sell the game with no SP and all the development time put into making the MP even more robust and at the very least balanced.
Also, people complaining about the story in a Call of Duty game.
I did enjoy the MW2 campaign. It was over the top and I had fun which is what I play games for anyway.
Pretty much. Don't think too hard (or at all when it comes to this series), alright guys?
Sure, you can switch your brain off and try to ignore the story, and you'll probably have a pretty fun time with it. Thing is, it doesn't have to be that way. MW1 had a reasonably compelling plot and was still able to pull off a fun SP experience overall. Even Black Ops managed a more plausible narrative (though I'd say not quite as good as the first MW) than MW2 did. Some people like huge Michael Baysplosions, some people like a decently interesting story to tie together their SP. A game can have both, and other CoD's have pulled it off in the past.
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Pfft, what kind of loser likes Call of Duty anyway?
I do enjoy good plot lines but I'm not that worried if a game that I bought mainly for the multiplayer doesn't have that great a story.
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PaperLuigi44My amazement is at maximum capacity.Registered Userregular
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In all seriousness, I didn't care much for MW2's story (while I quite enjoyed BLOPS in that regard) but I still care what happens to Soap and Price. Wasn't this rumoured to be a prequel though?
I did enjoy the MW2 campaign. It was over the top and I had fun which is what I play games for anyway.
Yeah, I enjoyed it as well. The plot was pretty terrible, but I found the set pieces and action sequences were super fun and some of the best in any FPS.
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I hate MW and I hate Activision enough I haven't bought a game from them as long as I can remember, but if they create a plot so retarded that it actually works with the plot from MW2, I'll probably be forced to buy it just to see the train as it is in the process of wrecking.
Basically a game so bad it must be good.
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ITT: people complain about a series they didn't actually play.
I pretty much disregard any post made by someone I don't recognize from the CoD thread.
Yep, that's it. Close up shop guys, this here thread is for the COD fans only.
(If you dig in deep enough, you can maybe find a thread in 07 were I busted some nuts praising COD4. Does that count or does my membership lapse? Maybe I need fill out a renewal form? Ah, fuggitaboutit. Too much work and I'm lazy.)
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The plot for MW1 was fine. MW2......yeah what the fuck i dunno.
Shepard engineered the whole thing to provoke Russia to invade so he could counter-invade Russia. Well thats what i got. Someone was smoking crack when writing that plot.
I always thought that was the case too. but every synopsis I've read has specifically stated;
Shepard engineered the conflict to make himself a war hero
Because it came out of nowhere and didn't make any fucking sense. I had to go to the call of duty wiki to understand why Shepard did what he did.
From a gameplay point of view though, MW2 was excellent and i'll fight anyone who says different.
Let us engage in combat. Define what parts of the gameplay were excellent.
This is from a SP point of view (i barely play multiplayer).
Quite simply, the gameplay was tense yet fun. Especially my veteran run. I never felt that the AI was being cheap and when i died it was usually my own fault. Especially with grenades.
Now there's a lot of criticism about the friendly AI but i thought they were good too. Not amazing but they were never not helpful to some degree, Hell they even saved my arse on a few occasions too.
And the whole "your team mates never push forward" argument is stupid because if they did push forward then there would be nothing for you to do. You could just sit back and let them wear the opposition down. My only criticism is the never ending waves of bad guys. That did get annoying after awhile.
Feel free to rip MP apart because i don't play that.
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0Replace4DisplaceThe best girls are ships and guns.Registered Userregular
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MP was addicting and rewarding but also broken, so you missed a lot of masochism.
Never bothered to Veteran the SP in any CoD game, since I play for the story and don't really mind the cheevos.
I play Infinity Ward CoD games for the single player and play multiplayer just cause its there.
I enjoy the set pieces and the multiple viewpoint of a large war. The CoD1 demo convinced me when you are walking through a field at night with your squad when suddenly you get opened up on by MG42s and mortars. You hit the deck and crawl your way to the nests hoping no to be torn apart. In the sky is AA fire going off and men parachuting in. It was intense and I saved as much cash as quick as I could so I could run out and buy it.
Since then I have bought all the IW CoD games and have had great fun. Save for a few missions, you always feel you are in an over the top battle and that is exciting. I have played through all of them multiple times from start to finish. Multiplayer is for when I don't feel like doing missions and shoot some online guys and then hate everything.
BLOPS was my first non-IW CoD game and I hated it all the way through. I rather take pothead references then in your face gruesome torture and murder.
People seem to forget that this is alternating Studios, so this game has been in development for 2 years, it's not like they knocked this up right after BLACK OPS. Say what you want about MW2's story-line (it was awful) I think the Gulag mission in MW2 is one of the best single player FPS levels i have ever played, and it may even be my favorite, the whole helicopter ride into the prison, landing on the basketball court, making your way inside, all without load times, would have been unthinkable like a year ago. It blew me away, I love it, especially with a giant tv and surround sound.
MW2's multiplayer? Not so much, I love team work and working together to achieve a goal, that's why my fav part of MW2 was spec ops and why L4D2 and HALO remain my favorite online experiences.
speaking of which, Valve, announce L4D3 already.
EDIT: I'm pretty sure the Zapella/West lawsuit prevents Activision from releasing any future based shooters, i.e anything not set in the present day or past. I thought the rumor was Re-spawn studios (Zapella/West's new one) is working on a Future based FPS. Which is why Black Ops was the way it was, I think that would make the idea of a MW3 being a prequel more likely.
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I loved this as well. I dont care what happens in MW3 just as long as Price and Soap are back.
Having survived the most insurmountable bullshit ever in the history of the human race, Price and Soap retire to lowly beat cop positions in a quiet town where they are succinctly driven back into action once again when Russian para-militarists decide to invade the town's only shopping mall for some reason that'll get hand-waved away during the shooty moments.
Price and Soap: Buddy Cops... 11/11/11, pre-order now!
Admit it, this would be the greatest premise for a COD game ever.
Having survived the most insurmountable bullshit ever in the history of the human race, Price and Soap retire to lowly beat cop positions in a quiet town where they are succinctly driven back into action once again when Russian para-militarists decide to invade the town's only shopping mall for some reason that'll get hand-waved away during the shooty moments.
Price and Soap: Buddy Cops
I would watch that movie
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also, think of it this way: If MW3 is a prequel then you'll be able to see more of Ghost.
but the thing that worries me is that between MW2, BLOPS, and the WW2 iterations is that they've really run out of new and interesting weapons/gadgets to use. A future game would allow for simply making stuff up and/or developing on current weapons technology. Sidenote: does Future Weapons even air new episodes anymore? How is the hollow shell of IW supposed to come up with anything new without that glorious bald-guy whispering them about all the new guns that combine the versatility of the M16 with the stopping power of a .50 sniper rifle?
BLOPS was my first non-IW CoD game and I hated it all the way through. I rather take pothead references then in your face gruesome torture and murder.
I don't understand, you were OK with murdering hundreds of civilians in MW2, but not torturing a known war criminal?
If they put dedicated servers in for the next COD, I think it would fix most complaints about the game. EA did it, why can't you Activision?
Well the first time I played that mission I only fired into the air or killed the civilians who needed a quick death. I went in with the mindset that I was undercover with monsters to stop them but I wasn't going to become one.
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also, think of it this way: If MW3 is a prequel then you'll be able to see more of Ghost.
but the thing that worries me is that between MW2, BLOPS, and the WW2 iterations is that they've really run out of new and interesting weapons/gadgets to use. A future game would allow for simply making stuff up and/or developing on current weapons technology. Sidenote: does Future Weapons even air new episodes anymore? How is the hollow shell of IW supposed to come up with anything new without that glorious bald-guy whispering them about all the new guns that combine the versatility of the M16 with the stopping power of a .50 sniper rifle?
yeah unfortunately FutureWeapons was cancelled. not sure where IW/Sledgehammer/Raven will get their inspiration for the American weaponry now, hopefully it won't turn out as retarded as the Russian weapon selection in MW2.
also if there isn't an A-10 killstreak reward I will probably not buy the game just for that reason
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BLOPS was my first non-IW CoD game and I hated it all the way through. I rather take pothead references then in your face gruesome torture and murder.
I don't understand, you were OK with murdering hundreds of civilians in MW2, but not torturing a known war criminal?
If they put dedicated servers in for the next COD, I think it would fix most complaints about the game. EA did it, why can't you Activision?
Holy crap. You get to torture someone in black ops?
Yes, kind of.
There's a scene where you need to get information out of a hostile and resistant contact. This is a black operation. You put shards of broken glass in his mouth, then punch him in the face. It doesn't last long, but is justifiably disturbing... which is the point. Black ops in and of themselves are morally questionable affairs, and this just does a fairly good job of showing it that much more.
But also the reverse:
The plotline is dictated by you as a soldier in an interrogation chair, as the one being interrogated. All of the missions that I've seen so far are you trying to relate your (very questionable) witness to events you may or may not have taken part in. You are most decidedly being interrogated in a "black site" sense, complete with all the monitors for vitals and numerous references to having been drugged by those who have you.
However, given the time this is set in and the nature of the individuals in question, it's appropriate for the venue/story.
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BLOPS was my first non-IW CoD game and I hated it all the way through. I rather take pothead references then in your face gruesome torture and murder.
I don't understand, you were OK with murdering hundreds of civilians in MW2, but not torturing a known war criminal?
If they put dedicated servers in for the next COD, I think it would fix most complaints about the game. EA did it, why can't you Activision?
Holy crap. You get to torture someone in black ops?
I think people make a bigger deal about this then is necessary. Gruesome? Not really... put some glass in a guy's mouth and punch him. I see it as cheesy macho stuff... I mean, we've all done way worse stuff in video games. "No Russian" was a bigger deal IMO, I've only ever been able to play that level twice.
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Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
Also, I hope MW3 has a more substantial campaign. Longer than average, because I'm kind of getting over the BS that is the MP modes...
Make the campaign twice as long, 100 times more coherent, and add some crazy unique stuff in every mission. I want to feel like I did the first time I played the AC-130 mission in CoD4 on every mission. You know, really Michael Bay that shit up.
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Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
I did really like Spec Ops, it was a fun challenge to complete them all on Veteran. I hope they keep those in some fashion at least, maybe scaling in difficulty so even if you can do them with more people it's still possible with 2 people and good communication.
I think people make a bigger deal about this then is necessary. Gruesome? Not really... put some glass in a guy's mouth and punch him.
Consider more carefully just what you have said here. Putting glass in a an adult man's mouth (albeit a virtual person) and punching him in the face is NOT a gruesome thing to do to someone?
I see it as cheesy macho stuff... I mean, we've all done way worse stuff in video games. "No Russian" was a bigger deal IMO, I've only ever been able to play that level twice.
Was it the screaming people? Maybe when they were crying? Trying hard to squirm away after being shot? What got through to you, that made it so wrong? Was it the scope, one vs many affected?
Edit: Note that fact that I still enjoyed the storyline of both games, or at least the setpieces.
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This is from a SP point of view (i barely play multiplayer).
Quite simply, the gameplay was tense yet fun. Especially my veteran run. I never felt that the AI was being cheap and when i died it was usually my own fault. Especially with grenades.
Now there's a lot of criticism about the friendly AI but i thought they were good too. Not amazing but they were never not helpful to some degree, Hell they even saved my arse on a few occasions too.
And the whole "your team mates never push forward" argument is stupid because if they did push forward then there would be nothing for you to do. You could just sit back and let them wear the opposition down. My only criticism is the never ending waves of bad guys. That did get annoying after awhile.
Feel free to rip MP apart because i don't play that.
Good thing you "only criticism" wasn't in MW2 then, right?
Seriously. People need to quit saying this as this was a problem in CoD4, not MW2.
I think that since after punching the guy with glass in his mouth he quickly turns around and joins you in a tactical escape, all the while talking perfectly normally, as if nothing happened to his mouth, negates the "shock" of the torture. It wasn't anywhere near as bad as "No Russian." Not even close.
I shot all my tubes at the people in No Russian, and it pretty much screwed my for the riot shield cops under the planes at the later parts of the level.
People actually think No Russian was bad? It's like, did you never once play a GTA game?
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I pretty much disregard any post made by someone I don't recognize from the CoD thread.
Anyways, I don't give a shit about the SP. It's fun for six hours, and that's it. If they put more time into the single player than they do the multiplayer, they've made a huge mistake. I'd almost rather them sell the game with no SP and all the development time put into making the MP even more robust and at the very least balanced.
Also, people complaining about the story in a Call of Duty game.
Pretty much. Don't think too hard (or at all when it comes to this series), alright guys?
Sure, you can switch your brain off and try to ignore the story, and you'll probably have a pretty fun time with it. Thing is, it doesn't have to be that way. MW1 had a reasonably compelling plot and was still able to pull off a fun SP experience overall. Even Black Ops managed a more plausible narrative (though I'd say not quite as good as the first MW) than MW2 did. Some people like huge Michael Baysplosions, some people like a decently interesting story to tie together their SP. A game can have both, and other CoD's have pulled it off in the past.
Yeah, I enjoyed it as well. The plot was pretty terrible, but I found the set pieces and action sequences were super fun and some of the best in any FPS.
If they release it as a prequel it gives them an excuse for the after-MW2 MW4.
Also single-player story in Call of Duty.. what?
I still haven't finished the BlOps story, but I'm 7th prestige!
Basically a game so bad it must be good.
Yep, that's it. Close up shop guys, this here thread is for the COD fans only.
(If you dig in deep enough, you can maybe find a thread in 07 were I busted some nuts praising COD4. Does that count or does my membership lapse? Maybe I need fill out a renewal form? Ah, fuggitaboutit. Too much work and I'm lazy.)
Because it came out of nowhere and didn't make any fucking sense. I had to go to the call of duty wiki to understand why Shepard did what he did.
From a gameplay point of view though, MW2 was excellent and i'll fight anyone who says different.
Let us engage in combat. Define what parts of the gameplay were excellent.
Well played, good sir. Well played.
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This is from a SP point of view (i barely play multiplayer).
Quite simply, the gameplay was tense yet fun. Especially my veteran run. I never felt that the AI was being cheap and when i died it was usually my own fault. Especially with grenades.
Now there's a lot of criticism about the friendly AI but i thought they were good too. Not amazing but they were never not helpful to some degree, Hell they even saved my arse on a few occasions too.
And the whole "your team mates never push forward" argument is stupid because if they did push forward then there would be nothing for you to do. You could just sit back and let them wear the opposition down. My only criticism is the never ending waves of bad guys. That did get annoying after awhile.
Feel free to rip MP apart because i don't play that.
Never bothered to Veteran the SP in any CoD game, since I play for the story and don't really mind the cheevos.
I enjoy the set pieces and the multiple viewpoint of a large war. The CoD1 demo convinced me when you are walking through a field at night with your squad when suddenly you get opened up on by MG42s and mortars. You hit the deck and crawl your way to the nests hoping no to be torn apart. In the sky is AA fire going off and men parachuting in. It was intense and I saved as much cash as quick as I could so I could run out and buy it.
Since then I have bought all the IW CoD games and have had great fun. Save for a few missions, you always feel you are in an over the top battle and that is exciting. I have played through all of them multiple times from start to finish. Multiplayer is for when I don't feel like doing missions and shoot some online guys and then hate everything.
BLOPS was my first non-IW CoD game and I hated it all the way through. I rather take pothead references then in your face gruesome torture and murder.
MW2's multiplayer? Not so much, I love team work and working together to achieve a goal, that's why my fav part of MW2 was spec ops and why L4D2 and HALO remain my favorite online experiences.
speaking of which, Valve, announce L4D3 already.
EDIT: I'm pretty sure the Zapella/West lawsuit prevents Activision from releasing any future based shooters, i.e anything not set in the present day or past. I thought the rumor was Re-spawn studios (Zapella/West's new one) is working on a Future based FPS. Which is why Black Ops was the way it was, I think that would make the idea of a MW3 being a prequel more likely.
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Having survived the most insurmountable bullshit ever in the history of the human race, Price and Soap retire to lowly beat cop positions in a quiet town where they are succinctly driven back into action once again when Russian para-militarists decide to invade the town's only shopping mall for some reason that'll get hand-waved away during the shooty moments.
Price and Soap: Buddy Cops... 11/11/11, pre-order now!
I would watch that movie
but the thing that worries me is that between MW2, BLOPS, and the WW2 iterations is that they've really run out of new and interesting weapons/gadgets to use. A future game would allow for simply making stuff up and/or developing on current weapons technology. Sidenote: does Future Weapons even air new episodes anymore? How is the hollow shell of IW supposed to come up with anything new without that glorious bald-guy whispering them about all the new guns that combine the versatility of the M16 with the stopping power of a .50 sniper rifle?
I don't understand, you were OK with murdering hundreds of civilians in MW2, but not torturing a known war criminal?
If they put dedicated servers in for the next COD, I think it would fix most complaints about the game. EA did it, why can't you Activision?
Well the first time I played that mission I only fired into the air or killed the civilians who needed a quick death. I went in with the mindset that I was undercover with monsters to stop them but I wasn't going to become one.
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People thought Ghost was worth keeping around?
yeah unfortunately FutureWeapons was cancelled. not sure where IW/Sledgehammer/Raven will get their inspiration for the American weaponry now, hopefully it won't turn out as retarded as the Russian weapon selection in MW2.
also if there isn't an A-10 killstreak reward I will probably not buy the game just for that reason
Yes, kind of.
But also the reverse:
However, given the time this is set in and the nature of the individuals in question, it's appropriate for the venue/story.
apparently, the rumor mill is rife with whispers that MW3 is going to be a prequel to CoD4 heavily featuring Ghost, Soap, and Price.
I think people make a bigger deal about this then is necessary. Gruesome? Not really... put some glass in a guy's mouth and punch him. I see it as cheesy macho stuff... I mean, we've all done way worse stuff in video games. "No Russian" was a bigger deal IMO, I've only ever been able to play that level twice.
Make the campaign twice as long, 100 times more coherent, and add some crazy unique stuff in every mission. I want to feel like I did the first time I played the AC-130 mission in CoD4 on every mission. You know, really Michael Bay that shit up.
Consider more carefully just what you have said here. Putting glass in a an adult man's mouth (albeit a virtual person) and punching him in the face is NOT a gruesome thing to do to someone?
That's torture, man. It's straight up sadistic.
Was it the screaming people? Maybe when they were crying? Trying hard to squirm away after being shot? What got through to you, that made it so wrong? Was it the scope, one vs many affected?
Edit: Note that fact that I still enjoyed the storyline of both games, or at least the setpieces.
Good thing you "only criticism" wasn't in MW2 then, right?
Seriously. People need to quit saying this as this was a problem in CoD4, not MW2.
People actually think No Russian was bad? It's like, did you never once play a GTA game?
OH NOES, SOME CIVILIAN PIXELS DIED.