I remember walking around campus once and this fundamentalist was in the quad talking about how everyone unbaptized deserved to die. A friend of mine I volunteered with was like "what about the kids born in the hospital and die soon after due to an illness?"
The fundamentalist's response: "Those children deserved to die"
I remember walking around campus once and this fundamentalist was in the quad talking about how everyone unbaptized deserved to die. A friend of mine I volunteered with was like "what about the kids born in the hospital and die soon after due to an illness?"
The fundamentalist's response: "Those children deserved to die"
I've never seen my friend so angry
I find it quite shocking just how far people like that can miss the point
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Also I don't claim to be the bible guy or anything buy after rapture, isn't the earth handed over to the animals?
i just read somewhere that people are thinking of euthanizing their pets in preparation for this rapture
i am so angry i am shaking
While I am definitely bummed to know that some people are literally stupid enough to euthanize their pets in preparation for the afterlife, I'm much more concerned with those who decide to murder/suicide before they go.
I hope it doesn't happen, but history tells me that it's probably going to happen somewhere. Some tortured soul is either going to "save" their family from the Rapture by trying to beat them to death with a fireplace poker or gun down an entire room of "sinners" in an attempt rack up enough Righteous Points to punch their free-admission ticket into heaven.
1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,[a] putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment; 5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless 8 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment. 10 This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh[c] and despise authority.
Bold and arrogant, they are not afraid to heap abuse on celestial beings; 11 yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not heap abuse on such beings when bringing judgment on them from[d] the Lord. 12 But these people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish.
13 They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.[e] 14 With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed—an accursed brood! 15 They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Bezer,[f] who loved the wages of wickedness. 16 But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey—an animal without speech—who spoke with a human voice and restrained the prophet’s madness.
17 These people are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. 18 For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of the flesh, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. 19 They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for “people are slaves to whatever has mastered them.” 20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21 It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22 Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,”[g] and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.”
Also I don't claim to be the bible guy or anything buy after rapture, isn't the earth handed over to the animals?
no, according to the millenialist interpretation, the rapture is followed by a seven year apocalypse intended to scare the rest of the unbelievers into believing. following that, there's Armageddon, and then the earth is basically burned to a crisp before God remakes the whole thing and brings the people in heaven down to the new, improved earth.
1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,[a] putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment; 5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless 8 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment. 10 This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh[c] and despise authority.
Bold and arrogant, they are not afraid to heap abuse on celestial beings; 11 yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not heap abuse on such beings when bringing judgment on them from[d] the Lord. 12 But these people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish.
13 They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.[e] 14 With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed—an accursed brood! 15 They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Bezer,[f] who loved the wages of wickedness. 16 But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey—an animal without speech—who spoke with a human voice and restrained the prophet’s madness.
17 These people are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. 18 For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of the flesh, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. 19 They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for “people are slaves to whatever has mastered them.” 20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21 It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22 Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,”[g] and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.”
These kinds of people don't follow the Bible though. Not really. They pick bits which fit their own small-minded bigotry and fanaticism and follow them. Trying to persuade them that actually in the Bible it also says X, Y and Z is a lost cause, sadly.
Also I don't claim to be the bible guy or anything buy after rapture, isn't the earth handed over to the animals?
no, according to the millenialist interpretation, the rapture is followed by a seven year apocalypse intended to scare the rest of the unbelievers into believing. following that, there's Armageddon, and then the earth is basically burned to a crisp before God remakes the whole thing and brings the people in heaven down to the new, improved earth.
This is hilarious because any rational non-believer would be instantly converted the second millions of people evaporated off the face of the earth.
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where are you butss hearing all this about people euthanizing their pets and blowin' their savings
Thomas Jefferson basically chopped up his Bible - the gospels, specifically - and removed everything supernatural: references to angels, prophecies, miracles, etc. Anything he didn't care for.
Unfortunately, a lot of people do this mentally, as well.
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the pet euthanasia thing was posted on twitter, where i also learned people are setting up businesses to care for animals left behind, which is a much saner solution
but blowing their savings, that's been in the news, i think i even heard it on NPR
man I hope there's not a lot of people actually believing this
I know a ton of Christians and not a single one of them is buying it
Up here in Southern Alberta its the same thing. Most of the christians I know don't believe a single thing about this May 21st thing and are going to go about the day like any other.
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why should they buy it, the bible specifically says it will happen when no one expects it
anyone who believes it is basically saying they know better than the bible, which is generally a frowned upon position to take
On May 21st, I'm going to buy up all the stocks that people sell in a frenzy. Gonna be rich, you guys!
what good does it do to gain the world only to lose your soul?
What if god's plan involves you setting up a 401k and putting away some cash for when the earth is remade and the souls of the faithful are returned to the world? It's just good financial planning for your immortal soul.
On May 21st, I'm going to buy up all the stocks that people sell in a frenzy. Gonna be rich, you guys!
what good does it do to gain the world only to lose your soul?
Depends if you believe in souls, I guess
I believe that human bodies work sort of like those traps from Ghostbusters except they don't trap ghosts from dead people they trap ghosts from people who have not died yet but have parents who fucked at some time in the past. But I don't call them souls, I call them post fucking parents but predeath ghosts.
On May 21st, I'm going to buy up all the stocks that people sell in a frenzy. Gonna be rich, you guys!
what good does it do to gain the world only to lose your soul?
Depends if you believe in souls, I guess
I believe that human bodies work sort of like those traps from Ghostbusters except they don't trap ghosts from dead people they trap ghosts from people who have not died yet but have parents who fucked at some time in the past. But I don't call them souls, I call them post fucking parents but predeath ghosts.
That's an advanced theological framework right there
[Adrienne Martinez] thought she'd go to medical school, until she began tuning in to Family Radio. She and her husband, Joel, lived and worked in New York City. But a year ago, they decided they wanted to spend their remaining time on Earth with their infant daughter.
"My mentality was, why are we going to work for more money? It just seemed kind of greedy to me. And unnecessary," she says.
And so, her husband adds, "God just made it possible — he opened doors. He allowed us to quit our jobs, and we just moved, and here we are."
Now they are in Orlando, in a rented house, passing out tracts and reading the Bible. Their daughter is 2 years old, and their second child is due in June. Joel says they're spending the last of their savings. They don't see a need for one more dollar.
"You know, you think about retirement and stuff like that," he says. "What's the point of having some money just sitting there?"
"We budgeted everything so that, on May 21, we won't have anything left," Adrienne adds
sucks to be her 2 kids when they realize that mommy is batshit insane.
man I hope there's not a lot of people actually believing this
I know a ton of Christians and not a single one of them is buying it
Up here in Southern Alberta its the same thing. Most of the christians I know don't believe a single thing about this May 21st thing and are going to go about the day like any other.
Yeah, this isn't some pan-Christianity thing. This is specific to a particular group of Christians that follow Harold Camping and apparently own a radio station and like putting up billboards. This is the same man who predicted the Rapture was going to take place in 1994 (clearly he was confused by the coming of the Sony Playstation console, not Jesus). When he was wrong about 1994, some of his followers chose to believe the 2011 prediction that he made later while others, I presume, realized he was a false prophet and are following some other crazy sect at the moment.
I'd say the vast majority of Christians are either unaware or just ignoring this guy since he's not really any kind of a religious authority.
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i am so angry i am shaking
That's just what Darth Benedict XVI wants you to think.
Babies has been going to Limbo/Purgatory for 2000 years. God's not going to decide to show those little mutants compassion this late in the game.
Interesting aside:
Psalm 90:4
2 Peter 3:8
This is why no Christian can ever claim to really have a concrete understanding of the creation account in Genesis, or exactly how old the world is.
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whoa, what the hell
Satans..... hints.....
I find it quite shocking just how far people like that can miss the point
Satans..... hints.....
if you believe dead babies go to heaven then it's not so bad
but that dude sounds like a dick so
While I am definitely bummed to know that some people are literally stupid enough to euthanize their pets in preparation for the afterlife, I'm much more concerned with those who decide to murder/suicide before they go.
I hope it doesn't happen, but history tells me that it's probably going to happen somewhere. Some tortured soul is either going to "save" their family from the Rapture by trying to beat them to death with a fireplace poker or gun down an entire room of "sinners" in an attempt rack up enough Righteous Points to punch their free-admission ticket into heaven.
4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,[a] putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment; 5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless 8 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment. 10 This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh[c] and despise authority.
Bold and arrogant, they are not afraid to heap abuse on celestial beings; 11 yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not heap abuse on such beings when bringing judgment on them from[d] the Lord. 12 But these people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish.
13 They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.[e] 14 With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed—an accursed brood! 15 They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Bezer,[f] who loved the wages of wickedness. 16 But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey—an animal without speech—who spoke with a human voice and restrained the prophet’s madness.
17 These people are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. 18 For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of the flesh, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. 19 They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for “people are slaves to whatever has mastered them.” 20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21 It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22 Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,”[g] and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.”
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no, according to the millenialist interpretation, the rapture is followed by a seven year apocalypse intended to scare the rest of the unbelievers into believing. following that, there's Armageddon, and then the earth is basically burned to a crisp before God remakes the whole thing and brings the people in heaven down to the new, improved earth.
These kinds of people don't follow the Bible though. Not really. They pick bits which fit their own small-minded bigotry and fanaticism and follow them. Trying to persuade them that actually in the Bible it also says X, Y and Z is a lost cause, sadly.
If they were anything but Evangelising Christians then they probably would, which is a great shame.
This is hilarious because any rational non-believer would be instantly converted the second millions of people evaporated off the face of the earth.
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Are you familiar with the Jefferson Bible?
Thomas Jefferson basically chopped up his Bible - the gospels, specifically - and removed everything supernatural: references to angels, prophecies, miracles, etc. Anything he didn't care for.
Unfortunately, a lot of people do this mentally, as well.
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but blowing their savings, that's been in the news, i think i even heard it on NPR
I know a ton of Christians and not a single one of them is buying it
Up here in Southern Alberta its the same thing. Most of the christians I know don't believe a single thing about this May 21st thing and are going to go about the day like any other.
anyone who believes it is basically saying they know better than the bible, which is generally a frowned upon position to take
unless you're a New Biblonian like me
Oh I agree. Which is why I thought the whole thing was ridiculous in the first place. As do we all.
Seriously though some people will believe anything.
I even know a couple of people who have said they would vote for Donald Trump if he ran for President
but I don't seem to know anyone dumb enough to buy this
I have been sick for two weeks, and in "mucus everywhere all the time" mode for one week
but today my body is putting out an incredible amount of some of the weirdest-colored shit I've seen
it's the hue of a goddamn blood orange
what good does it do to gain the world only to lose your soul?
What if god's plan involves you setting up a 401k and putting away some cash for when the earth is remade and the souls of the faithful are returned to the world? It's just good financial planning for your immortal soul.
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Depends if you believe in souls, I guess
I gave up my soul a long time ago. It was interfering with my ability to lead Black Temple raids.
I believe that human bodies work sort of like those traps from Ghostbusters except they don't trap ghosts from dead people they trap ghosts from people who have not died yet but have parents who fucked at some time in the past. But I don't call them souls, I call them post fucking parents but predeath ghosts.
That's an advanced theological framework right there
sucks to be her 2 kids when they realize that mommy is batshit insane.
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Yeah, this isn't some pan-Christianity thing. This is specific to a particular group of Christians that follow Harold Camping and apparently own a radio station and like putting up billboards. This is the same man who predicted the Rapture was going to take place in 1994 (clearly he was confused by the coming of the Sony Playstation console, not Jesus). When he was wrong about 1994, some of his followers chose to believe the 2011 prediction that he made later while others, I presume, realized he was a false prophet and are following some other crazy sect at the moment.
I'd say the vast majority of Christians are either unaware or just ignoring this guy since he's not really any kind of a religious authority.
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