Yeah, I'm almost hoping it isn't an actual prequel.
It would leave the ending open for the human's failure and could do a trilogy or something.
I'm really excited either way.
I don't really see how anyone can argue that this isn't a prequel at this point. There's no doubt that it takes place in the same universe, no doubt that it predates the Alien films. I mean, you can argue semantics about whether it's a true prequel if it does or doesn't have xenomorphs, but your point is that they could do a trilogy with a completely different fate for humanity. The only way to do that would be to retcon.
Yeah, that was what I was getting at. A retcon, in my opinion, would make this film a bit more interesting than a prequel.
I'm not super invested into the Aliens mythos and he hasn't officially chained Prometheus to it completely. There is still room for him to say that they are noncanon stories in the same universe.
That potentially unpopular opinion aside, I'm pretty excited by these trailers. Whosoever job it was to set these up should be praised.
A retcon would be a copout. Yeah, let's throw away everything that happened in the previous films in spite of the first two films being widely regarded as excellent films. Because you don't really care about them.
I have to agree with Dru here. A prequel is a much better idea for this than a retcon.
I just realized June is going to be an absolutely stellar month for movies.
In order of release date:
Piranha 3DD (with lifeguard David Hasselhoff, Ving Rhames with a gun for a leg, and Gary Busey as a farmer who bites the head off a piranha that comes out of an exploding cow)
Prometheus
Brave
Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter
A retcon would be a copout. Yeah, let's throw away everything that happened in the previous films in spite of the first two films being widely regarded as excellent films. Because you don't really care about them.
I guess my viewpoint is that the franchise has become an unnecessary limitation for a promising new story in the same universe.
I mean technically, Alien vs. Predator and Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem, were already set up as prequels by the franchise owners- so another prequel would be bound to that fiction.
I think everyone involved wanted to start something new, otherwise this would just be Alien (insert title here). That's my hope anyway.
It's absolutely an alien prequel, the only question is wether or not there's going to be xenomorphs.
Did somebody say xenomorph?
My guess is that's as far as it'll go for the full-grown Aliens. Facehuggers, maybe. That thing above the operating table looked more like some multi-tentacled squid creature, although I suppose it could be a prototype or something.
I guess my viewpoint is that the franchise has become an unnecessary limitation for a promising new story in the same universe.
I mean technically, Alien vs. Predator and Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem, were already set up as prequels by the franchise owners- so another prequel would be bound to that fiction.
I think everyone involved wanted to start something new, otherwise this would just be Alien (insert title here). That's my hope anyway.
I think it would be no problem at all to ignore the AvP movies
It's absolutely an alien prequel, the only question is wether or not there's going to be xenomorphs.
Did somebody say xenomorph?
My guess is that's as far as it'll go for the full-grown Aliens. Facehuggers, maybe. That thing above the operating table looked more like some multi-tentacled squid creature, although I suppose it could be a prototype or something.
Well shit
What's the timestamp on that in the trailer
No. Absolutely not. They squeezed it dry. He (the xenomorph) did very well. (He laughs) He survived, he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!
No. Absolutely not. They squeezed it dry. He (the xenomorph) did very well. (He laughs) He survived, he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!
That's what I thought!
No one is scared of xenos anymore
Now it's all about... whatever these creatures are, if they're creatures at all
No. Absolutely not. They squeezed it dry. He (the xenomorph) did very well. (He laughs) He survived, he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!
That's what I thought!
No one is scared of xenos anymore
Now it's all about... whatever these creatures are, if they're creatures at all
No-one is scared because after Aliens they were done terribly.
also everyone stopped being scared of xenomorphs the second there was more than one of them. it's like ninjas. one is more dangerous than ten thousand.
also everyone stopped being scared of xenomorphs the second there was more than one of them. it's like ninjas. one is more dangerous than ten thousand.
I disagree! I think the idea of being surrounded by a whole bunch of them is very scary as well!
But it's escalation, you know
After you do that, there's no going back and having just one be scary anymore
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I have a feeling Prometheus is a film that Ridley Scott wouldn't mind if you thought of as a prequel to his original space-rapist horror film if you like but he's not terribly concerned about it himself.
also everyone stopped being scared of xenomorphs the second there was more than one of them. it's like ninjas. one is more dangerous than ten thousand.
I disagree! I think the idea of being surrounded by a whole bunch of them is very scary as well!
But it's escalation, you know
After you do that, there's no going back and having just one be scary anymore
also, if there's a thousand of them, you're either dead too quickly to care or you're some sort of action hero space marine, and few things are truly scary to the man with the pulse rifle
knowing that there's an alien somewhere in your house is scarier than knowing there are aliens everywhere in your house
also everyone stopped being scared of xenomorphs the second there was more than one of them. it's like ninjas. one is more dangerous than ten thousand.
I disagree! I think the idea of being surrounded by a whole bunch of them is very scary as well!
But it's escalation, you know
After you do that, there's no going back and having just one be scary anymore
Escalation only works when it's done well. Multiple xenomorphs worked in Aliens, not in Alien vs Predator 2.
also everyone stopped being scared of xenomorphs the second there was more than one of them. it's like ninjas. one is more dangerous than ten thousand.
I disagree! I think the idea of being surrounded by a whole bunch of them is very scary as well!
But it's escalation, you know
After you do that, there's no going back and having just one be scary anymore
Escalation only works when it's done well. Multiple xenomorphs worked in Aliens, not in Alien vs Predator 2.
Also Aliens wasn't a horror film so much as an action film. Alien was horror, so it made sense to use the xenomorph sparingly. Since Aliens was really an action film (and a great one at that), it made much more sense in that context to show much more of them both killing and getting killed.
also everyone stopped being scared of xenomorphs the second there was more than one of them. it's like ninjas. one is more dangerous than ten thousand.
I disagree! I think the idea of being surrounded by a whole bunch of them is very scary as well!
But it's escalation, you know
After you do that, there's no going back and having just one be scary anymore
Escalation only works when it's done well. Multiple xenomorphs worked in Aliens, not in Alien vs Predator 2.
Also Aliens wasn't a horror film so much as an action film. Alien was horror, so it made sense to use the xenomorph sparingly. Since Aliens was really an action film (and a great one at that), it made much more sense in that context to show much more of them both killing and getting killed.
I guess my viewpoint is that the franchise has become an unnecessary limitation for a promising new story in the same universe.
I mean technically, Alien vs. Predator and Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem, were already set up as prequels by the franchise owners- so another prequel would be bound to that fiction.
I think everyone involved wanted to start something new, otherwise this would just be Alien (insert title here). That's my hope anyway.
Maybe there shouldn't be sequels to this. I mean, any more sequels.
also everyone stopped being scared of xenomorphs the second there was more than one of them. it's like ninjas. one is more dangerous than ten thousand.
I disagree! I think the idea of being surrounded by a whole bunch of them is very scary as well!
But it's escalation, you know
After you do that, there's no going back and having just one be scary anymore
also, if there's a thousand of them, you're either dead too quickly to care or you're some sort of action hero space marine, and few things are truly scary to the man with the pulse rifle
knowing that there's an alien somewhere in your house is scarier than knowing there are aliens everywhere in your house
Alien-verse Space Marines get curbstomped by xenomorphs in that scenario. You'd have to replace them with WH 40K Space Marines to stand a significant chance beyond dog food.
On a side note, I really like the high-pitched shriek-beeps near the end. Who wants to take bets on it becoming the next Inception-Bwom overused audio effect in trailers?
Not sure I'm convinced by Stringer Bell's southern accent, but maybe that's just payback for years of Americans doing bad British accents.
I guess my viewpoint is that the franchise has become an unnecessary limitation for a promising new story in the same universe.
I mean technically, Alien vs. Predator and Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem, were already set up as prequels by the franchise owners- so another prequel would be bound to that fiction.
I think everyone involved wanted to start something new, otherwise this would just be Alien (insert title here). That's my hope anyway.
Maybe their shouldn't be sequels to this. I mean, any more sequels.
There can be sequels, they just have to be good.
edit: Until it's confirmed the Alien vs Predator films aren't canon anymore. Scott has been up front that he considers them terrible so I doubt he'll include them tied to his Prometheus film.
It's absolutely an alien prequel, the only question is wether or not there's going to be xenomorphs.
Did somebody say xenomorph?
My guess is that's as far as it'll go for the full-grown Aliens. Facehuggers, maybe. That thing above the operating table looked more like some multi-tentacled squid creature, although I suppose it could be a prototype or something.
Well, the facehuggers and xenomorphs are supposed to incorporate physical features of their hosts. Obviously, the original designs just come from Giger being obsessed with anatomy and sex, but I mean after that. So the things in the movie could easily be the same biological whatever as the xenomorphs just prior to exposure to humans. And the facehugger in Alien could appear a certain way, because it's genetically descended from human victims in Prometheus or whatever.
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Yeah, that was what I was getting at. A retcon, in my opinion, would make this film a bit more interesting than a prequel.
I'm not super invested into the Aliens mythos and he hasn't officially chained Prometheus to it completely. There is still room for him to say that they are noncanon stories in the same universe.
That potentially unpopular opinion aside, I'm pretty excited by these trailers. Whosoever job it was to set these up should be praised.
I just realized June is going to be an absolutely stellar month for movies.
In order of release date:
Piranha 3DD (with lifeguard David Hasselhoff, Ving Rhames with a gun for a leg, and Gary Busey as a farmer who bites the head off a piranha that comes out of an exploding cow)
Prometheus
Brave
Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter
Steam
me3's ending eh
heh heh heh topical
I'll kill myself now
I mean technically, Alien vs. Predator and Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem, were already set up as prequels by the franchise owners- so another prequel would be bound to that fiction.
I think everyone involved wanted to start something new, otherwise this would just be Alien (insert title here). That's my hope anyway.
Did somebody say xenomorph?
My guess is that's as far as it'll go for the full-grown Aliens. Facehuggers, maybe. That thing above the operating table looked more like some multi-tentacled squid creature, although I suppose it could be a prototype or something.
I think it would be no problem at all to ignore the AvP movies
Well shit
What's the timestamp on that in the trailer
1:35 on the one I downloaded from Apple Trailers, right before the glowy space map activates.
The games were much better. Like, it wasn't even close. The games were so much better
Steam
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Steam
wasn't as good as Predator or anything but still a good movie
I need to track down a copy
It was never going to be better than Predator
It was certainly a far better sequel to it than Predator 2 though
That's what I thought!
No one is scared of xenos anymore
Now it's all about... whatever these creatures are, if they're creatures at all
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No-one is scared because after Aliens they were done terribly.
the first one is actually incredible and you won't convince me otherwise
the second is terrible though
I don't think I can handle the wait.
Someone hug me, please!
I disagree! I think the idea of being surrounded by a whole bunch of them is very scary as well!
But it's escalation, you know
After you do that, there's no going back and having just one be scary anymore
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I disagree. Predator 2 was superior. It had more fleshed out characters. The protagonists were too similar, excluding Topher Grace.
That said, it was better then the Alien vs Predator films and Alien 3 & 4.
What
Predator 2 blew in every possible regard
also, if there's a thousand of them, you're either dead too quickly to care or you're some sort of action hero space marine, and few things are truly scary to the man with the pulse rifle
knowing that there's an alien somewhere in your house is scarier than knowing there are aliens everywhere in your house
Escalation only works when it's done well. Multiple xenomorphs worked in Aliens, not in Alien vs Predator 2.
Also Aliens wasn't a horror film so much as an action film. Alien was horror, so it made sense to use the xenomorph sparingly. Since Aliens was really an action film (and a great one at that), it made much more sense in that context to show much more of them both killing and getting killed.
Agreed.
Maybe there shouldn't be sequels to this. I mean, any more sequels.
Alien-verse Space Marines get curbstomped by xenomorphs in that scenario. You'd have to replace them with WH 40K Space Marines to stand a significant chance beyond dog food.
Not sure I'm convinced by Stringer Bell's southern accent, but maybe that's just payback for years of Americans doing bad British accents.
There can be sequels, they just have to be good.
edit: Until it's confirmed the Alien vs Predator films aren't canon anymore. Scott has been up front that he considers them terrible so I doubt he'll include them tied to his Prometheus film.
Check this out:
Oh damn, I had no idea that was a callback to the original trailer
That is fantastic
I wouldn't be bothered by that