also everyone stopped being scared of xenomorphs the second there was more than one of them. it's like ninjas. one is more dangerous than ten thousand.
I disagree! I think the idea of being surrounded by a whole bunch of them is very scary as well!
But it's escalation, you know
After you do that, there's no going back and having just one be scary anymore
also, if there's a thousand of them, you're either dead too quickly to care or you're some sort of action hero space marine, and few things are truly scary to the man with the pulse rifle
knowing that there's an alien somewhere in your house is scarier than knowing there are aliens everywhere in your house
Alien-verse Space Marines get curbstomped by xenomorphs in that scenario. You'd have to replace them with WH 40K Space Marines to stand a significant chance beyond dog food.
Nah.
Marines just got OBSCENELY unlucky.
They got the bad luck equivalent of winning the lottery on the same day you win the world series and have sex with seven or so supermodels. Low on ammo, no tank, no air support, nuclear reactor is melting down, half the squad dies at first contact, Burke is trying to kill everyone...
Get a team that believes Ripley and takes a little more caution? They've got pretty good odds of living to extract. I mean, Hicks and Bishop were basically killed by space magic in the sequel.
Basically, in the first film they are a mostly unarmed ship's crew with bugger all military experience fighting an incredibly cunning super-predator, and it fucks them up.
In the second film, they are fighting a whole lot of them, but they have guns and know how to use them
also, that squad is supposed to be the fuck-up, rejects and losers squad, and they have a shit ton of bad luck
also everyone stopped being scared of xenomorphs the second there was more than one of them. it's like ninjas. one is more dangerous than ten thousand.
I disagree! I think the idea of being surrounded by a whole bunch of them is very scary as well!
But it's escalation, you know
After you do that, there's no going back and having just one be scary anymore
also, if there's a thousand of them, you're either dead too quickly to care or you're some sort of action hero space marine, and few things are truly scary to the man with the pulse rifle
knowing that there's an alien somewhere in your house is scarier than knowing there are aliens everywhere in your house
Alien-verse Space Marines get curbstomped by xenomorphs in that scenario. You'd have to replace them with WH 40K Space Marines to stand a significant chance beyond dog food.
Nah.
Marines just got OBSCENELY unlucky.
They got the bad luck equivalent of winning the lottery on the same day you win the world series and have sex with seven or so supermodels. Low on ammo, no tank, no air support, nuclear reactor is melting down, half the squad dies at first contact, Burke is trying to kill everyone...
Get a team that believes Ripley and takes a little more caution? They've got pretty good odds of living to extract. I mean, Hicks and Bishop were basically killed by space magic in the sequel.
Only it wasn't bad luck that made them have those losses. It was xenomorphs. A key factor in their lack of support was a fucking xeno popping up in the pilot's cockpit killing the pilots before they could land their plane.
Half the squad dying at first contact wasn't bad luck, either. Ripley briefed them herself and they still got taken out like amateurs.
Burke going nuts was from the stress from fighting the xenomorphs. Without them psychologically fucking him up he'd have been fine. But that's what happens when you're surrounded by xenomorphs who want to eat your face.
It's not Bishop or Hicks' fault they got killed by a xeno queen who had learnt stealth from the goddamn Batman.
Xenomorphs rely on stealth and surprise for a reason. It is because they are melee killers. Against marines with high powered rifles and who are trained to know what they're going up against, xenomorphs aren't so much a threat. Ranged beats melee, simple as that.
Now if you want to bring goku into this conversation, we'll have a showstopper.
also everyone stopped being scared of xenomorphs the second there was more than one of them. it's like ninjas. one is more dangerous than ten thousand.
I disagree! I think the idea of being surrounded by a whole bunch of them is very scary as well!
But it's escalation, you know
After you do that, there's no going back and having just one be scary anymore
also, if there's a thousand of them, you're either dead too quickly to care or you're some sort of action hero space marine, and few things are truly scary to the man with the pulse rifle
knowing that there's an alien somewhere in your house is scarier than knowing there are aliens everywhere in your house
Alien-verse Space Marines get curbstomped by xenomorphs in that scenario. You'd have to replace them with WH 40K Space Marines to stand a significant chance beyond dog food.
Nah.
Marines just got OBSCENELY unlucky.
They got the bad luck equivalent of winning the lottery on the same day you win the world series and have sex with seven or so supermodels. Low on ammo, no tank, no air support, nuclear reactor is melting down, half the squad dies at first contact, Burke is trying to kill everyone...
Get a team that believes Ripley and takes a little more caution? They've got pretty good odds of living to extract. I mean, Hicks and Bishop were basically killed by space magic in the sequel.
Only it wasn't bad luck that made them have those losses. It was xenomorphs. A key factor in their lack of support was a fucking xeno popping up in the pilot's cockpit killing the pilots before they could land their plane.
Half the squad dying at first contact wasn't bad luck, either. Ripley briefed them herself and they still got taken out like amateurs.
Burke going nuts was from the stress from fighting the xenomorphs. Without them psychologically fucking him up he'd have been fine. But that's what happens when you're surrounded by xenomorphs who want to eat your face.
It's not Bishop or Hicks' fault they got killed by a xeno queen who had learnt stealth from the goddamn Batman.
Burke was a dickweed from the start. His whole plan was "Kill or bribe everyone so I can smuggle out incredibly dangerous bioweapons." Look at the squad size. Way below regulation for this kind of mission. He kept it small so there'd be less people to bribe or kill.
As for bad luck?
1) The aliens were in a reactor core. So, the first fight they couldn't shoot most guns, or everyone dies.
2) LOTS of friendly fire. Deitrich, one of the two marines with flame units, friendly fired Frost, who was carrying all the ammo. That's an X-Com mission's worth of bad luck there. But it got worse. The ammo then explodes, killing Crowe. They were losing as much of the team to friendly fire as the xenos.
3) Even giving full credit to the thing for sneaking onto the ship, it was amazingly bad luck for the dropship to hit the APC. If it hadn't, the squad would have had a tank that could take down more or less anything the xenos had. As it stood, they lost most of the ammo, turrets, plasma cannons...
That's full FUBAR. Even if the thing is smart, it doesn't have a pilot's license. This is luck on its side, nothing more.
4) And the Queen didn't have time to lay eggs. That is total evil wizard territory.
I mean, other than Newt, Hicks, Bishop, and Ripley dying in 3, I'm not complaining. Those breaks made for one of the best movies out there. But it's still the mother of all bad days. And poor Hudson was just two weeks from retirement.
two simple turrets took out scores and score and scores of xenomorphs
Drones, not queens. Predators get killed by those.
Must be shitty Predators then. Queens are certainly bad ass looking, but ultimately only a threat if you're within arms reach.
That's true. A missile or rocket propelled grenade would hurt them badly or kill them. Just to be sure, they'd need to spam them not leave it at one projectile.
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Now I'm remembering AvP gold.
Remember how badass the smartgun was? That thing can hold off pretty much anything indefinitely if ammo holds out. Got a round of survival on the map with the little base going where I could live as long as I wanted.
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Nah.
Marines just got OBSCENELY unlucky.
Get a team that believes Ripley and takes a little more caution? They've got pretty good odds of living to extract. I mean, Hicks and Bishop were basically killed by space magic in the sequel.
Why I fear the ocean.
I can't wait to see a movie in theaters again :P
But if you can see them and get time to shoot them, then they die
It's like, if a modern soldier with an assault rifle walked into a pitch black room and a tiger jumped on his face
then he would get ripped to pieces
but if he walked in, saw a tiger twenty yards down the hallway, and filled it full of lead, then it would be dead and he would be fine
In the second film, they are fighting a whole lot of them, but they have guns and know how to use them
also, that squad is supposed to be the fuck-up, rejects and losers squad, and they have a shit ton of bad luck
Half the squad dying at first contact wasn't bad luck, either. Ripley briefed them herself and they still got taken out like amateurs.
Burke going nuts was from the stress from fighting the xenomorphs. Without them psychologically fucking him up he'd have been fine. But that's what happens when you're surrounded by xenomorphs who want to eat your face.
It's not Bishop or Hicks' fault they got killed by a xeno queen who had learnt stealth from the goddamn Batman.
wish i hadn't watched the second trailer
i mean i was already gonna see this day one but now i know seemingly a lot about the plot
what a fool i was
Now if you want to bring goku into this conversation, we'll have a showstopper.
whoever wins, we lose
Depends on the xenomorph, but I'd say Deadpool wins more often than not.
Spawn.
batman
if he has time to prepare
Drones, not queens. Predators get killed by those.
Crunch all you want.
We'll make more.
Rob Liefeld
As for bad luck?
1) The aliens were in a reactor core. So, the first fight they couldn't shoot most guns, or everyone dies.
2) LOTS of friendly fire. Deitrich, one of the two marines with flame units, friendly fired Frost, who was carrying all the ammo. That's an X-Com mission's worth of bad luck there. But it got worse. The ammo then explodes, killing Crowe. They were losing as much of the team to friendly fire as the xenos.
3) Even giving full credit to the thing for sneaking onto the ship, it was amazingly bad luck for the dropship to hit the APC. If it hadn't, the squad would have had a tank that could take down more or less anything the xenos had. As it stood, they lost most of the ammo, turrets, plasma cannons...
That's full FUBAR. Even if the thing is smart, it doesn't have a pilot's license. This is luck on its side, nothing more.
4) And the Queen didn't have time to lay eggs. That is total evil wizard territory.
I mean, other than Newt, Hicks, Bishop, and Ripley dying in 3, I'm not complaining. Those breaks made for one of the best movies out there. But it's still the mother of all bad days. And poor Hudson was just two weeks from retirement.
Why I fear the ocean.
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That only applies to Batgod. Standard Batman better hope he can run them over with his Batmobile.
Must be shitty Predators then. Queens are certainly bad ass looking, but ultimately only a threat if you're within arms reach.
That's true. A missile or rocket propelled grenade would hurt them badly or kill them. Just to be sure, they'd need to spam them not leave it at one projectile.
Spoiler for AvP
the queen reveal in Aliens
what a great piece of cinema
god I need to buy that blu-ray
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IMO they needed more than one squad. They needed to go Starship Troopers on the xenomorphs.
Not the same doco, but check this fucker out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta2rF6Syi0U
Remember how badass the smartgun was? That thing can hold off pretty much anything indefinitely if ammo holds out. Got a round of survival on the map with the little base going where I could live as long as I wanted.
Just smart running and smartgunning. Good times.
That marine ran really fast, come to think.
Why I fear the ocean.
A little shallow, but had some cool moments. The first human mission was damn good at building tension.
Well, that's where you need to be if you're going to take your trophy with honor.
Fact.
I saw advertisements for this when I saw Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance (which was pretty sweet).
And I was like
what? no.
Yet it's honorable for Predators to shoot at humans while being invisible, and survive being shot at by our weapons without dying.
I want to know how even with CGI and more advanced special effects, the creatures in this movie looked worse than the original.
There should be a law about this kind of thing.
Yeah, this was the one major flaw of Predators
How did anyone look at that creature design and go "yeah, this looks good"
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Why I fear the ocean.