I do like that they reused the super soldier costume though.
It can work like the X-Men uniform Lee made during the Claremont era, that Forge and Banshee and the others wore. It makes the field agents stand out from the other SHIELD monitor watchers.
I'm seriously amazed they jumped through that many hoops to put movie-Fury in the comics, rather than just push the Ultimates TPBs.
I mentioned this before but the way Marvel works these days it feels like the Ultimate line is the line that actually has changes made despite being released as a new reader friendly universe, so it's aged along with its readers.
Always down for another minority character, and I'm glad the excellent Super Soldier costume won't be going to waste. Of course, this brings our African-American Super Soldier count to Falcon, Josiah X, Patriot, and Marcus. That's not counting 'not really' Super Soldier Battlestar. Maybe it's time to spread out a bit.
I would also be down for Winter Soldier/Patriot comic Marvel. *nudge*
I'm seriously amazed they jumped through that many hoops to put movie-Fury in the comics, rather than just push the Ultimates TPBs.
I mentioned this before but the way Marvel works these days it feels like the Ultimate line is the line that actually has changes made despite being released as a new reader friendly universe, so it's aged along with its readers.
Well, I was specifically referring to The Ultimates, by Millar and Hitch. That thing lines up pretty perfectly with the movie, visually speaking. So, why not push those TPBs hard, in the wake of the movie? Stick an advertisement in front of the film, buy some ad space, etc.
This is assuming that the character of Marcus Johnson is meant to be something of a bridge to non-comics readers, to help ease them into the comics, from the Avengers film.
Well, on the plus side this is a Fury who I don't know enough about to hate.
While I did figure that was Hill in context, my nerd brain saw the gloves and though Quake. It doesn't help that the last I saw her someone gave up on making her look exactly like Jolie in Hackers.
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Until you made me poke at wikipedia right now I had no idea Quake and Maria Hill were two different people
I flipped through that issue of Battle Scars earlier.
And there is some really bad writing going on. These are kind of non spoilers, but incase someone is just that excited for the book, they'll go in the box:
1. Marcus's Legal Name is... Nick Fury (Jr.). Hill calls him it once, and it just sticks.
2. It's implied that his skin gets darker because he is severely burnt in an explosion.
3. Nick Fury literally just kind of fades into the background again. I guess he's out of infinity formula for realz, this time, and says that he's going to try and die alone and in peace.
4. There's a letter from the architects at the end, saying that this is a lot bigger than people think even now, and that he will soon be making a huge appearance... somewhere.
And I have to say that my immense love of Ultimate Nick Fury is really just totally strangled by my immense hatred of laughably cliched and forced writing.
That book may as well have been called "Status Quo"
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I flipped through that issue of Battle Scars earlier.
And there is some really bad writing going on. These are kind of non spoilers, but incase someone is just that excited for the book, they'll go in the box:
1. Marcus's Legal Name is... Nick Fury (Jr.). Hill calls him it once, and it just sticks.
2. It's implied that his skin gets darker because he is severely burnt in an explosion.
3. Nick Fury literally just kind of fades into the background again. I guess he's out of infinity formula for realz, this time, and says that he's going to try and die alone and in peace.
4. There's a letter from the architects at the end, saying that this is a lot bigger than people think even now, and that he will soon be making a huge appearance... somewhere.
I think some casual readers are going to be a little confused a few months from now when "Nick Fury" suddenly appears in a bunch of high-profile, high-continuity titles.
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Until you made me poke at wikipedia right now I had no idea Quake and Maria Hill were two different people
You should check out Secret Warriors - Quake is the best new Marvel female character in a long time, and really shines in that book (she makes her debut in Secret War, but really steps up in Secret Warriors).
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Marcus Johnson hosts the Phoenix force, that's who Thor is fighting in that blacked out Versus cover.
Everything except Number 2 is so hilariously dumb I can't even get mad at it
and 2 is so bad I am curious as to if Hadji misread a bad joke or something since he was just flipping through
Honestly, I am wondering if I misread it too. But I slowed down and went over it a couple times.
It's not something where he straight up says
"Hey, I got burnt so much I'm blacker!"
But he's in the hospital thinking about how his eye is gone, and he said he has massive burns all over his body (and there is an explosion earlier in the book that exists solely so he can be burnt).
Then he shaves his head, and on the next page he suddenly has a much darker skin tone.
Everything except Number 2 is so hilariously dumb I can't even get mad at it
and 2 is so bad I am curious as to if Hadji misread a bad joke or something since he was just flipping through
Honestly, I am wondering if I misread it too. But I slowed down and went over it a couple times.
It's not something where he straight up says
"Hey, I got burnt so much I'm blacker!"
But he's in the hospital thinking about how his eye is gone, and he said he has massive burns all over his body (and there is an explosion earlier in the book that exists solely so he can be burnt).
Then he shaves his head, and on the next page he suddenly has a much darker skin tone.
Eh
I think that is just some coloring to make him straight up look like Samuel L. Jackson and less a HE IS NOW BLACKER DUE TO BURNS
I mean it is still dumb but not offensively so like before
Everything except Number 2 is so hilariously dumb I can't even get mad at it
and 2 is so bad I am curious as to if Hadji misread a bad joke or something since he was just flipping through
Honestly, I am wondering if I misread it too. But I slowed down and went over it a couple times.
It's not something where he straight up says
"Hey, I got burnt so much I'm blacker!"
But he's in the hospital thinking about how his eye is gone, and he said he has massive burns all over his body (and there is an explosion earlier in the book that exists solely so he can be burnt).
Then he shaves his head, and on the next page he suddenly has a much darker skin tone.
Eh
I think that is just some coloring to make him straight up look like Samuel L. Jackson and less a HE IS NOW BLACKER DUE TO BURNS
I mean it is still dumb but not offensively so like before
The narration emphasizes that he is burnt severely and that it will change how he looks forever.
It just never explicitly said that he is darker because of the burns
I flipped through that issue of Battle Scars earlier.
And there is some really bad writing going on. These are kind of non spoilers, but incase someone is just that excited for the book, they'll go in the box:
1. Marcus's Legal Name is... Nick Fury (Jr.). Hill calls him it once, and it just sticks.
2. It's implied that his skin gets darker because he is severely burnt in an explosion.
3. Nick Fury literally just kind of fades into the background again. I guess he's out of infinity formula for realz, this time, and says that he's going to try and die alone and in peace.
4. There's a letter from the architects at the end, saying that this is a lot bigger than people think even now, and that he will soon be making a huge appearance... somewhere.
So, I know Marvel says they don't switch stuff to match with movies, and yet they totally do, and that's fine.
Is there any sort of sales data that shows that having a comic look like the movie actually boosts comic sales? Or that comic movies have any sort of effect on comic book sales?
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I'm really not trying to sound like I'm out to step on any toes here
But this whole 'Nick Jr' deal sounds more like something DC would think up.
Yeah I don't think I'll bother with Battle Scars when it comes out in trade format. However I did read all of The Fearless maxiseries and it was pretty good. Cullen Bunn did a great job on writing duties and I hope to see more of him in the future. The fact that he's bringing that insane doctor back in his 4 issue Wolverine run shows he knows to use good characters.
Speaking of which Aaron's third Wolverine volume comes out tomorrow and I need to pick that up.
It's silly, but Nick Fury's not a huge character. It's not like they're making Captain America black (Though it would be cool to see Patriot in a world where Cap never got frozen/defrosted and became old/irrelevant), and I already like this guy because he's not WW2 Nick.
Seriously, it's 2012 and there are a dozen WW2-era heroes still running around in peak condition, everyone from the main Invaders team to Dum Dum fucking Dugan. I'm inclined to give HUGE props to Marvel for weening themselves off that teet for once.
One thing that pleased me about the Battle Scars ending spoilers...
That the architects from Hickman's SHIELD make themselves know. That concept and those characters are way too good not to be used in other stories by other writers.
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I mean, I like Johnson, he's pretty cool
but still, that seems a bit shameless? maybe?
It can work like the X-Men uniform Lee made during the Claremont era, that Forge and Banshee and the others wore. It makes the field agents stand out from the other SHIELD monitor watchers.
But what about we who remember Hasselhoff's Fury?
edit: is Johnson a Super Soldier because of Fury being his dad? Infinity baby formula give him powers?
I am pretty sure Marcus is gonna drop the Johnson and be Marcus Fury and he will be the new Nick Fury
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I mentioned this before but the way Marvel works these days it feels like the Ultimate line is the line that actually has changes made despite being released as a new reader friendly universe, so it's aged along with its readers.
it's a thing by itself
which is fine and cool, but it does mean that taking ultimateised versions of the heroes is a bit odd
fortunately, they seem to have avoided that in most cases, which is good!
Could there have been a Nick Furies crossover where Nick Fury had a baby with Nick Fury?!
I would also be down for Winter Soldier/Patriot comic Marvel. *nudge*
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Well, I was specifically referring to The Ultimates, by Millar and Hitch. That thing lines up pretty perfectly with the movie, visually speaking. So, why not push those TPBs hard, in the wake of the movie? Stick an advertisement in front of the film, buy some ad space, etc.
This is assuming that the character of Marcus Johnson is meant to be something of a bridge to non-comics readers, to help ease them into the comics, from the Avengers film.
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Well, considering all the posts before your's... no, I don't think it's justt you.
While I did figure that was Hill in context, my nerd brain saw the gloves and though Quake. It doesn't help that the last I saw her someone gave up on making her look exactly like Jolie in Hackers.
And there is some really bad writing going on. These are kind of non spoilers, but incase someone is just that excited for the book, they'll go in the box:
1. Marcus's Legal Name is... Nick Fury (Jr.). Hill calls him it once, and it just sticks.
2. It's implied that his skin gets darker because he is severely burnt in an explosion.
3. Nick Fury literally just kind of fades into the background again. I guess he's out of infinity formula for realz, this time, and says that he's going to try and die alone and in peace.
4. There's a letter from the architects at the end, saying that this is a lot bigger than people think even now, and that he will soon be making a huge appearance... somewhere.
That book may as well have been called "Status Quo"
Christ.
That item number 2 is just so bad.
Was he locked in a tanning bed or something?
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and 2 is so bad I am curious as to if Hadji misread a bad joke or something since he was just flipping through
I think some casual readers are going to be a little confused a few months from now when "Nick Fury" suddenly appears in a bunch of high-profile, high-continuity titles.
That should be a new super hero team. The tagline would read "it's what they fight for!"
One thing I don't get about spoiler #1
"Ride or Die" confirmed Dominic Toretto, as they took off to find the Dragon Balls in hopes of reviving their friend Sonic
alternatively, Nick worked some spy mojo so his name wasn't an issue
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I don't even know. It was bad.
You should check out Secret Warriors - Quake is the best new Marvel female character in a long time, and really shines in that book (she makes her debut in Secret War, but really steps up in Secret Warriors).
Honestly, I am wondering if I misread it too. But I slowed down and went over it a couple times.
It's not something where he straight up says
But he's in the hospital thinking about how his eye is gone, and he said he has massive burns all over his body (and there is an explosion earlier in the book that exists solely so he can be burnt).
Then he shaves his head, and on the next page he suddenly has a much darker skin tone.
I think that is just some coloring to make him straight up look like Samuel L. Jackson and less a HE IS NOW BLACKER DUE TO BURNS
I mean it is still dumb but not offensively so like before
It just never explicitly said that he is darker because of the burns
So, I know Marvel says they don't switch stuff to match with movies, and yet they totally do, and that's fine.
But this, right here? Goddamn shameful.
But this whole 'Nick Jr' deal sounds more like something DC would think up.
it is just hilarious
even moreso that Yost admits to Nick Fury Jr. being editorially mandated
Speaking of which Aaron's third Wolverine volume comes out tomorrow and I need to pick that up.
Seriously, it's 2012 and there are a dozen WW2-era heroes still running around in peak condition, everyone from the main Invaders team to Dum Dum fucking Dugan. I'm inclined to give HUGE props to Marvel for weening themselves off that teet for once.
yes? He is half-black.
His mother was african american.
Oh! I didn't see that part.
I thought they had burnt a white guy to make him look black (based on what I read here).
But the whole explosion/skin thing is pretty bad writing.