I should be home in an hour or two, gunna see if I can sort out who is running what pa guild, and see what we want to do about creating the megacorp.
Its only G&T and se++? I'm still new to the PA forums so trying to get used to the different sections and which are playing what.
The two seperate guilds then one bigger PA unified guild for wuvwuv would be awesome.
I imagine @Vivixenne would be the one running the SE one. Hopefully all the SE people would be in the G&T one too.
All PA people, regardless of sub-forum, are welcome in all the PA guilds. PA guilds are for us all to focus on specific elements of the game as well as for regional distinction.
Yeah I'm honestly thinking that the split isn't all that important... I'm happy to play with all the G&T folk and I would imagine the SE++ group are happy to do the same.
For those that really aren't, though, then it's not too difficult to just join both and activate one or the other where you want it.
And @Geod cheers for the vote of confidence - I may not actually be running the SE++ guild though. I think that job is falling to other people in that thread, like @unintentional or someone, since I just won't be on that much this weekend because TIME (SADFACE). I'm happy to be an officer though!
I think if se++ wants to have a seperate guild it should, just to avoid any leadership and member issues that may occur because people may feel loyal to one group or the other.
We could always coordinate through our awesome teamspeak or these forums if needed. Se++ may have their own leadership structure and what not already in place that may conflict with what we are doing with ours now or down the line.
I honestly think the SE++ crew are more about enjoying the BWE than worrying about what guild is doing what when... all guilds will be wiped before the game is released, anyway, so talking about it in-depth right now is not so helpful
could be an idea to experiment, though, over the next few BWEs over what guild splits work and what don't
in fact I think more of a "play style" split is better than a subforum split
like, people who are more likely to initiate and organize PvP/WvW in one guild, people who are way more casual about the PvP (as in happy to do it but maybe less inclined to organize, run, or meta the shit out of it) and can lead/run any and all PvE stuff in another guild
that way PvP/WvW can be organized in the one guild and then someone can feed into the other guild that "hey, PvP is happening now, join us if you are free otherwise no worries"
and the same going backwards, like the PvE guild meeting up in a high-level area somewhere and roaming around looking for events or unlocking areas all together - these can get fed back to the PvP guild and those who are available can join
so it's not that one is PvP ONLY or PvE ONLY, it's that one takes the LEAD in organising PvP and the other takes the LEAD in organising PvE
I think if se++ wants to have a seperate guild it should, just to avoid any leadership and member issues that may occur because people may feel loyal to one group or the other.
We could always coordinate through our awesome teamspeak or these forums if needed. Se++ may have their own leadership structure and what not already in place that may conflict with what we are doing with ours now or down the line.
I honestly think the SE++ crew are more about enjoying the BWE than worrying about what guild is doing what when... all guilds will be wiped before the game is released, anyway, so talking about it in-depth right now is not so helpful
could be an idea to experiment, though, over the next few BWEs over what guild splits work and what don't
in fact I think more of a "play style" split is better than a subforum split
like, people who are more likely to initiate and organize PvP/WvW in one guild, people who are way more casual about the PvP (as in happy to do it but maybe less inclined to organize, run, or meta the shit out of it) and can lead/run any and all PvE stuff in another guild
that way PvP/WvW can be organized in the one guild and then someone can feed into the other guild that "hey, PvP is happening now, join us if you are free otherwise no worries"
and the same going backwards, like the PvE guild meeting up in a high-level area somewhere and roaming around looking for events or unlocking areas all together - these can get fed back to the PvP guild and those who are available can join
so it's not that one is PvP ONLY or PvE ONLY, it's that one takes the LEAD in organising PvP and the other takes the LEAD in organising PvE
I think if se++ wants to have a seperate guild it should, just to avoid any leadership and member issues that may occur because people may feel loyal to one group or the other.
We could always coordinate through our awesome teamspeak or these forums if needed. Se++ may have their own leadership structure an what not already in place that may conflict with what we are doing with ours now or down the line.
I honestly think the SE++ crew are more about enjoying the BWE than worrying about what guild is doing what when... all guilds will be wiped before the game is released, anyway, so talking about it in-depth right now is not so helpful
could be an idea to experiment, though, over the next few BWEs over what guild splits work and what don't
in fact I think more of a "play style" split is better than a subforum split
like, people who are more likely to initiate and organize PvP/WvW in one guild, people who are way more casual about the PvP (as in happy to do it but maybe less inclined to organize, run, or meta the shit out of it) and can lead/run any and all PvE stuff in another guild
that way PvP/WvW can be organized in the one guild and then someone can feed into the other guild that "hey, PvP is happening now, join us if you are free otherwise no worries"
and the same going backwards, like the PvE guild meeting up in a high-level area somewhere and roaming around looking for events or unlocking areas all together - these can get fed back to the PvP guild and those who are available can join
so it's not that one is PvP ONLY or PvE ONLY, it's that one takes the LEAD in organising PvP and the other takes the LEAD in organising PvE
thoughts?
I like that idea, I thinkk it would work well as people who are more casual/pve oriented wouldn't get flooded with msgs for pvp or wuvwuv if they aren't mainly on for those reasons. Or with the multiple guild function people can just hop back and forth depending on how they want to play that session.
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VivixenneRemember your training, and we'll get through this just fine.Registered Userregular
also - and I know this isn't just me talking - can we NOT have a timezone-based guild split?
because I hate those
and it could be an idea to have officers in each timezone so that they can lead or initiate stuff across the day
I say this only because stupid Australian timezones are stupid and it means I miss out on half a day of the beta because of work on Monday :C
I think if se++ wants to have a seperate guild it should, just to avoid any leadership and member issues that may occur because people may feel loyal to one group or the other.
We could always coordinate through our awesome teamspeak or these forums if needed. Se++ may have their own leadership structure an what not already in place that may conflict with what we are doing with ours now or down the line.
I honestly think the SE++ crew are more about enjoying the BWE than worrying about what guild is doing what when... all guilds will be wiped before the game is released, anyway, so talking about it in-depth right now is not so helpful
could be an idea to experiment, though, over the next few BWEs over what guild splits work and what don't
in fact I think more of a "play style" split is better than a subforum split
like, people who are more likely to initiate and organize PvP/WvW in one guild, people who are way more casual about the PvP (as in happy to do it but maybe less inclined to organize, run, or meta the shit out of it) and can lead/run any and all PvE stuff in another guild
that way PvP/WvW can be organized in the one guild and then someone can feed into the other guild that "hey, PvP is happening now, join us if you are free otherwise no worries"
and the same going backwards, like the PvE guild meeting up in a high-level area somewhere and roaming around looking for events or unlocking areas all together - these can get fed back to the PvP guild and those who are available can join
so it's not that one is PvP ONLY or PvE ONLY, it's that one takes the LEAD in organising PvP and the other takes the LEAD in organising PvE
thoughts?
I like that idea, I thinkk it would work well as people who are more casual/pve oriented wouldn't get flooded with msgs for pvp or wuvwuv if they aren't mainly on for those reasons. Or with the multiple guild function people can just hop back and forth depending on how they want to play that session.
Yes. This exactly. So if you're more in the mood for PvP that day, you pop into the PvP-oriented guild to see if anything is being organised, or if you can find help organising something. If you're in the mood for PvE that day or session, you pop into the PvE-oriented one.
I think if se++ wants to have a seperate guild it should, just to avoid any leadership and member issues that may occur because people may feel loyal to one group or the other.
We could always coordinate through our awesome teamspeak or these forums if needed. Se++ may have their own leadership structure and what not already in place that may conflict with what we are doing with ours now or down the line.
I honestly think the SE++ crew are more about enjoying the BWE than worrying about what guild is doing what when... all guilds will be wiped before the game is released, anyway, so talking about it in-depth right now is not so helpful
could be an idea to experiment, though, over the next few BWEs over what guild splits work and what don't
in fact I think more of a "play style" split is better than a subforum split
like, people who are more likely to initiate and organize PvP/WvW in one guild, people who are way more casual about the PvP (as in happy to do it but maybe less inclined to organize, run, or meta the shit out of it) and can lead/run any and all PvE stuff in another guild
that way PvP/WvW can be organized in the one guild and then someone can feed into the other guild that "hey, PvP is happening now, join us if you are free otherwise no worries"
and the same going backwards, like the PvE guild meeting up in a high-level area somewhere and roaming around looking for events or unlocking areas all together - these can get fed back to the PvP guild and those who are available can join
so it's not that one is PvP ONLY or PvE ONLY, it's that one takes the LEAD in organising PvP and the other takes the LEAD in organising PvE
thoughts?
I can see the appeal of it from an "organization" standpoint, but it means fragmenting the community. I can't really see the benefits outweighing that negative. I don't think splitting up by playstyle is really necessary unless we reach guild size limits (seems very unlikely).
We should probably just have one major guild and and people can form WvW, PvP, dungeon, etc groups from there. That would allow people who are interested in multiple things to easily join up with different groups without having to worry about which guild they ought to be active in.
My only concern with a huge guild from all communities here is an inability to communicate in a reasonable manner in guild chat or on TS. Guess we can't know how that will be until we experience it but I am...apprehensive but willing.
that's what the separate subforum guilds are for
Speaking of, is there interest from anybody at all regarding role-playing? I dabble.
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My only concern with a huge guild from all communities here is an inability to communicate in a reasonable manner in guild chat or on TS. Guess we can't know how that will be until we experience it but I am...apprehensive but willing.
that's what the separate subforum guilds are for
Speaking of, is there interest from anybody at all regarding role-playing? I dabble.
Gonna roleplay my sylvari who is addicted to the Dream and is trying to go back to sleep.
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Can someone lead me to the latest beta download?
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VivixenneRemember your training, and we'll get through this just fine.Registered Userregular
@Enig on the contrary, I would think that it serves to JOIN the community rather than fragment it by reinforcing the G&T/SE++ divide
my personal agenda is that I would like to see both groups become one and the same, with just all-round niceties and mutual hangouts
which in my view is actually community BUILDING
I know that is not the same as what other people would like to see
that said, one huge guild, as @REG Rysk mentioned previously, makes communication difficult, and if there's a lot of spamming with people trying to set up PvP groups with people who aren't interested, it encourages people to ignore guild chat
I know there are ways around the communication divide, but who knows
maybe go with one big guild during this BWE and try the playstyle split at the next?
I was updating that list at work, but I added PA se++ before we had decided to join them on FA, and when I went to update it with just PA it said only 100 updates allowed total :O
Well, beta is all downloaded and ready to go. My god I can't decide what class I want to play.
In GW1 I only ever had a Necro/Warrior, so I'm considering a Necro Sylvari for live. I just started messing around with that build calculator someone posted earlier, very interesting.
My Dranyth namesake character is traditionally a wizard/mage, so an Elementalist would fit just fine. Pretty much all the classes look very interesting, I always like Rogues and the Ranger seems neat. The gameplay TB put up of the Mesmer made them very intriguing as well, and I remember some early PvP footage with an Engineer...
There won't be so much chatter that it is "spam" (well, apart from BWEs and launch, perhaps). If you have people hopping over to advertise groups and such there will still be a mix of PvP/PvE chatter anyway.
Personally I am interested in PvP and PvE, and I would not like having to hop back and forth to try and find a group to do something with, and only being able to chat to half of the PA'ers at any given time.
I'm not saying we should have a G&T/SE++ divide either.
VivixenneRemember your training, and we'll get through this just fine.Registered Userregular
so why don't we just trial one big huge guild for this BWE and see how we go
there won't be that many of us anyway since it's just a beta, and we'll want to group or join others were possible just to make sure we are all experiencing things to the max, so it makes sense that at least during a BWE we should have as much chatter as possible
so why don't we just trial one big huge guild for this BWE and see how we go
there won't be that many of us anyway since it's just a beta, and we'll want to group or join others were possible just to make sure we are all experiencing things to the max, so it makes sense that at least during a BWE we should have as much chatter as possible
I like this idea. It's simple and a good way to test out that solution to start.
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VivixenneRemember your training, and we'll get through this just fine.Registered Userregular
SE++ is already going nuts with trying to name the guild
many want an homage to the WoW guild name (Shambler Milk)
I am lobbying very, very hard for something with the word "Yakkington" in it
My only concern with a huge guild from all communities here is an inability to communicate in a reasonable manner in guild chat or on TS. Guess we can't know how that will be until we experience it but I am...apprehensive but willing.
I'm not not sure if this has been said before but you can join more than one guild, at the same time in GuildWars 2.
This means you can have your smaller Guilds + One larger broadcast WvWvW guild etc for Penny Arcade World PvP.
I still say one big guild is the way to go. I'm pessimistic, so I think the guild will shrink over time, so it would be better if everyone was centralized in one.
I'm sad you won't be able to play too much this weekend Viv Guess it might be a bit longer till we play together again!
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edited April 2012
I would prefer the "sub-groups" thing just disappear all together and we all get along puppies-and-rainbows-style
but that's me (and a few notable others from SE++ that I know of)
I still say one big guild is the way to go. I'm pessimistic, so I think the guild will shrink over time, so it would be better if everyone was centralized in one.
I'm sad you won't be able to play too much this weekend Viv Guess it might be a bit longer till we play together again!
I will be around as much as humanly possible, but yeah I've got errands to run this weekend that I've put off for a few weeks that I absolutely need to get done this Saturday (your Friday). But my Saturday afternoon and Sunday looks relatively free!
I will just miss out on the last half-day of the BWE (again) thanks to work. Poop.
So I'm planning on pre-ordering the collector's edition. If I pre-order the physical edition from gamestop will I get into the weekend beta.
If not, where the fuck should I order from to get into the weekend beta? Cause dammit I NEED to play this game. NOW!
If you pre-purchase (not pre-order) from Gamestop they should give you a code for BWE participation. Check with them before you buy, but that should be the case.
You can buy the game digitally directly from the GW2 website and that will guarantee BWE access, but you can't get the CE there.
VivixenneRemember your training, and we'll get through this just fine.Registered Userregular
edited April 2012
EB Games Australia being completely uninformed about the difference between pre-ordering and pre-purchasing is pretty much the reason why I just bought the DD version online instead of the CE.
I was on the phone to three different EB Games stores here and it's almost like none of them had a freakin' clue... I'm a customer, I shouldn't be the one telling YOU how this shit works.
Then I found out they were going to be getting the beta codes LATE, and I was all: FUCK THAT.
I do find it interesting though, that if Aus/Nz players go to Sea or Sorrows, then they might have players pretty much in Wuvwuv at all times. I don't know if that gives them an advantage over, say, our server where most people will be asleep when Aus/Nz peoples are on.
Viv can defend us all during those times.
hahahaha I just saw this post
WvW Dark Horse by Australian day, casual PvE grinder by Australian night
Chiming in late, but I also don't see any need to split the group up. Personally, I really like a faster moving guild chat though. I've played too many games where it's only a handful of people even using the guild chat
Still debating what profession to play first and will do so until the last bitter moment. Definitely going to play some pve as well as wuvwuv.
VivixenneRemember your training, and we'll get through this just fine.Registered Userregular
edited April 2012
I'm going to be rolling a Norn Guardian to start
who else will be Norn with me? (there is an idea in SE++ to make identical human Mesmers, which also sounds fun, but I'd rather play Norn this time around)
I'll be going norn and mainly waffling between thief, hunter, and engineer. I'll play all the professions eventually, but want to put more time into whatever I pick first.
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Yeah I'm honestly thinking that the split isn't all that important... I'm happy to play with all the G&T folk and I would imagine the SE++ group are happy to do the same.
For those that really aren't, though, then it's not too difficult to just join both and activate one or the other where you want it.
And @Geod cheers for the vote of confidence - I may not actually be running the SE++ guild though. I think that job is falling to other people in that thread, like @unintentional or someone, since I just won't be on that much this weekend because TIME (SADFACE). I'm happy to be an officer though!
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I honestly think the SE++ crew are more about enjoying the BWE than worrying about what guild is doing what when... all guilds will be wiped before the game is released, anyway, so talking about it in-depth right now is not so helpful
could be an idea to experiment, though, over the next few BWEs over what guild splits work and what don't
in fact I think more of a "play style" split is better than a subforum split
like, people who are more likely to initiate and organize PvP/WvW in one guild, people who are way more casual about the PvP (as in happy to do it but maybe less inclined to organize, run, or meta the shit out of it) and can lead/run any and all PvE stuff in another guild
that way PvP/WvW can be organized in the one guild and then someone can feed into the other guild that "hey, PvP is happening now, join us if you are free otherwise no worries"
and the same going backwards, like the PvE guild meeting up in a high-level area somewhere and roaming around looking for events or unlocking areas all together - these can get fed back to the PvP guild and those who are available can join
so it's not that one is PvP ONLY or PvE ONLY, it's that one takes the LEAD in organising PvP and the other takes the LEAD in organising PvE
thoughts?
Too much work. Just tell me where to show up.
I like that idea, I thinkk it would work well as people who are more casual/pve oriented wouldn't get flooded with msgs for pvp or wuvwuv if they aren't mainly on for those reasons. Or with the multiple guild function people can just hop back and forth depending on how they want to play that session.
because I hate those
and it could be an idea to have officers in each timezone so that they can lead or initiate stuff across the day
I say this only because stupid Australian timezones are stupid and it means I miss out on half a day of the beta because of work on Monday :C
Yes. This exactly. So if you're more in the mood for PvP that day, you pop into the PvP-oriented guild to see if anything is being organised, or if you can find help organising something. If you're in the mood for PvE that day or session, you pop into the PvE-oriented one.
I can see the appeal of it from an "organization" standpoint, but it means fragmenting the community. I can't really see the benefits outweighing that negative. I don't think splitting up by playstyle is really necessary unless we reach guild size limits (seems very unlikely).
We should probably just have one major guild and and people can form WvW, PvP, dungeon, etc groups from there. That would allow people who are interested in multiple things to easily join up with different groups without having to worry about which guild they ought to be active in.
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Speaking of, is there interest from anybody at all regarding role-playing? I dabble.
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Gonna roleplay my sylvari who is addicted to the Dream and is trying to go back to sleep.
my personal agenda is that I would like to see both groups become one and the same, with just all-round niceties and mutual hangouts
which in my view is actually community BUILDING
I know that is not the same as what other people would like to see
that said, one huge guild, as @REG Rysk mentioned previously, makes communication difficult, and if there's a lot of spamming with people trying to set up PvP groups with people who aren't interested, it encourages people to ignore guild chat
I know there are ways around the communication divide, but who knows
maybe go with one big guild during this BWE and try the playstyle split at the next?
Hi
I was updating that list at work, but I added PA se++ before we had decided to join them on FA, and when I went to update it with just PA it said only 100 updates allowed total :O
Someone fixed it though.
In GW1 I only ever had a Necro/Warrior, so I'm considering a Necro Sylvari for live. I just started messing around with that build calculator someone posted earlier, very interesting.
My Dranyth namesake character is traditionally a wizard/mage, so an Elementalist would fit just fine. Pretty much all the classes look very interesting, I always like Rogues and the Ranger seems neat. The gameplay TB put up of the Mesmer made them very intriguing as well, and I remember some early PvP footage with an Engineer...
So very torn.
Personally I am interested in PvP and PvE, and I would not like having to hop back and forth to try and find a group to do something with, and only being able to chat to half of the PA'ers at any given time.
I'm not saying we should have a G&T/SE++ divide either.
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there won't be that many of us anyway since it's just a beta, and we'll want to group or join others were possible just to make sure we are all experiencing things to the max, so it makes sense that at least during a BWE we should have as much chatter as possible
I like this idea. It's simple and a good way to test out that solution to start.
many want an homage to the WoW guild name (Shambler Milk)
I am lobbying very, very hard for something with the word "Yakkington" in it
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I'm not not sure if this has been said before but you can join more than one guild, at the same time in GuildWars 2.
This means you can have your smaller Guilds + One larger broadcast WvWvW guild etc for Penny Arcade World PvP.
I'm sad you won't be able to play too much this weekend Viv
but that's me (and a few notable others from SE++ that I know of)
If not, where the fuck should I order from to get into the weekend beta? Cause dammit I NEED to play this game. NOW!
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I will be around as much as humanly possible, but yeah I've got errands to run this weekend that I've put off for a few weeks that I absolutely need to get done this Saturday (your Friday). But my Saturday afternoon and Sunday looks relatively free!
I will just miss out on the last half-day of the BWE (again) thanks to work. Poop.
If you pre-purchase (not pre-order) from Gamestop they should give you a code for BWE participation. Check with them before you buy, but that should be the case.
You can buy the game digitally directly from the GW2 website and that will guarantee BWE access, but you can't get the CE there.
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I was on the phone to three different EB Games stores here and it's almost like none of them had a freakin' clue... I'm a customer, I shouldn't be the one telling YOU how this shit works.
Then I found out they were going to be getting the beta codes LATE, and I was all: FUCK THAT.
hahahaha I just saw this post
WvW Dark Horse by Australian day, casual PvE grinder by Australian night
Still debating what profession to play first and will do so until the last bitter moment. Definitely going to play some pve as well as wuvwuv.
who else will be Norn with me? (there is an idea in SE++ to make identical human Mesmers, which also sounds fun, but I'd rather play Norn this time around)
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