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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    best way to learn to make decks is to look at tournament decks and see what makes them work

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    drp527drp527 We sacrifice our own That more may rise in their placeRegistered User regular
    deckbuilding for me by and large turns into "get a pool of ~100 possible cards (counting multiple copies) then thin it down to ~40 and add lands"

    cutting things can get really hard sometimes when I'm trying to stick to the idea that started the deck while keeping it reasonably efficient

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    SwillSwill Registered User regular
    I just want a fun cool budget standard deck but I don't see it happening.

    You want to play blue at all? Better get 4 snapcasters

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Swill wrote: »
    I just want a fun cool budget standard deck but I don't see it happening.

    You want to play blue at all? Better get 4 snapcasters
    like I said before

    budget type 2 decks were totally a thing in the not too distant past, and it looks like it will be a thing again in 6ish months when older super expensive shit gets phased out

    but right now?

    lmao no

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    SwillSwill Registered User regular
    I know. Fucking wurmcoil engines hella dumb

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    vexxing devils being 6 bucks now owns forever and ever

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    SwillSwill Registered User regular
    They seem super fun

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    casting them via cavern of souls is ridiculous

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    drp527drp527 We sacrifice our own That more may rise in their placeRegistered User regular
    I love things like the devil, built a whole deck around those (though I should update it to include him) in R/B and it was a lot of fun to play

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    the problem right now is that if you have red and do not have a playset of bonfires you are retarded

    and man that is 100 bucks right there

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    PeccaviPeccavi Registered User regular
    Man, fuck you Wizards. Half of M13 has been leaked so far, and red has gotten shit from it. 4 drop phoenix without haste? Two firebreathers? A 3 drop Merfolk looter?

    Oh, and that legendary goblin you printed? Completely useless in standard unless Goblin Chieftain gets reprinted, in which case great, a 4 drop that's completely dependent upon having a certain 3 drop in play. Even during the months when both M12 and M13 are legal, that won't see play over hellrider.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    uh how do you figure that goblin legend is useless?

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    PeccaviPeccavi Registered User regular
    Vexing devil is lots of fun if you play him turn 3+. Just don't play him turn 1. It's not worth it.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Peccavi wrote: »
    Vexing devil is lots of fun if you play him turn 3+. Just don't play him turn 1. It's not worth it.

    it's a beefed up lightning bolt turn 1, which is pretty damn worth it

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    PeccaviPeccavi Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    uh how do you figure that goblin legend is useless?

    Without goblin chieftain: Comes in turn 4, doubles turn 5, starts doing damage turn 6+.

    With goblin chieftain and 3 other goblins on the field: Turn 4, it creates potentially 10 damage. Hellrider, on the other hand, creates 8 damage that turn, 5 of which can't be blocked. After a wrath effect, Krenko takes 2 turns to do 3 damage. Hellrider can swing in for 4 immediately after a wrath effect.

    A red 4 drop without haste won't cut it.
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Peccavi wrote: »
    Vexing devil is lots of fun if you play him turn 3+. Just don't play him turn 1. It's not worth it.

    it's a beefed up lightning bolt turn 1, which is pretty damn worth it

    A vexing devil turn 1 has no chance of setting up a bloodthirsed berserker turn 2, unlike all of red's other 1 drops. Turn 3+, when you have extra mana floating around, getting 4 damage for R is great (especially if you follow it with brimstone volley), but turn 1 you really want to play something that will ping turn 2.

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    The Good Doctor TranThe Good Doctor Tran Registered User regular
    I'm on the fence with the goblin guy. His tempo is nice but man, he just makes doom blade hurt like a bitch.

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    drp527drp527 We sacrifice our own That more may rise in their placeRegistered User regular
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    and so the cycle of 4-drop legends continues

    that second one is literally scion of the wild made easier to play and an uncommon

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    ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
    edited June 2012
    Wait wait wait.

    If Odric's ability triggers, does that mean you can say "No creatures block my d00dz"?

    Also, I know there have been cards that do that, but I like it whenever it's brought up. It makes sense that blockers see your guys coming and their commander arrays them appropriately, but...well, let's just say one of my favorite fictional characters is Thrawn.

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    drp527drp527 We sacrifice our own That more may rise in their placeRegistered User regular
    I believe that is an option yes

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    PeccaviPeccavi Registered User regular
    I like avacyn's symbol on Odric's sword, it's a nice touch. Kinda want to try a Boros humans deck with him, t1 champion of the parish, t2 lightning mauler, t3 riot ringleader?, t4 odric paired with mauler

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    SwillSwill Registered User regular
    I love white, so yay odric

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    best way to learn to make decks is to look at tournament decks and see what makes them work

    Where is a good place to look?

    Mayor of Avarbrook.

    He'll never flip, your opponent will just gutshot him. I'd drop him.


    That bums me out. I saw the Kessig Cagebreakers today and was thinking of making my Werewolve kinda a token deck.

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    The Good Doctor TranThe Good Doctor Tran Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    best way to learn to make decks is to look at tournament decks and see what makes them work

    Where is a good place to look?

    Mayor of Avarbrook.

    He'll never flip, your opponent will just gutshot him. I'd drop him.


    That bums me out. I saw the Kessig Cagebreakers today and was thinking of making my Werewolve kinda a token deck.

    Good places to look at decks!

    http://www.starcitygames.com/pages/decklists/ - SCG runs its own proprietary series of tourneys in order to support the Legacy format, but most of their tourneys are still standard.

    http://www.channelfireball.com/news/wmcq-top-8-lists/ - CF will almost always have one more articles discussing top decks from recent events.

    http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/td/198 - Flores will rehash, somewhat late to the party, the recent top 8s. Take things he says with a grain of salt, he frequently misunderstands why decks work.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
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    drp527 wrote: »
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    I don't know what to make of this

    I like that ability but I feel like without some way of protecting itself (aside from 7 toughness) it'll be too easily removed to matter
    man, that is true for most bomb-style creatures

    and green has so much ramp right now, you're looking at a turn 4-5 drop anyway
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    drp527 wrote: »
    I want to see that thing go off exactly once

    the race to see who can pull off the mana to play something and deal the last 1 damage first

    Seems like that is a ten mana spell

    9 to cast it

    and then one red to cast shock or something

    uh, how is that going to happen when your hand and land is exiled?

    Hmmmm, you're right

    So what you really need is a rift bolt

    and then to blast this off the turn before it rolls in

    Solar on
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    The Good Doctor TranThe Good Doctor Tran Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    drp527 wrote: »
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    I don't know what to make of this

    I like that ability but I feel like without some way of protecting itself (aside from 7 toughness) it'll be too easily removed to matter
    man, that is true for most bomb-style creatures

    and green has so much ramp right now, you're looking at a turn 4-5 drop anyway
    Solar wrote: »
    drp527 wrote: »
    I want to see that thing go off exactly once

    the race to see who can pull off the mana to play something and deal the last 1 damage first

    Seems like that is a ten mana spell

    9 to cast it

    and then one red to cast shock or something

    uh, how is that going to happen when your hand and land is exiled?

    Hmmmm, you're right

    So what you really need is a rift bolt

    and then to blast this off the turn before it rolls in

    Or.

    O-ring.

    A guy.

    With haste.

    And then win.

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    drp527drp527 We sacrifice our own That more may rise in their placeRegistered User regular
    edited June 2012
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    two new things today, neither really interesting except I guess they threw exalted on a land

    edit: missed a third

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    drp527drp527 We sacrifice our own That more may rise in their placeRegistered User regular
    edited June 2012
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    yes yes yes yes yesssss Rancor is back

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    SwillSwill Registered User regular
    Thragrusk seems fun with exile and return to battlefield

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    drp527 wrote: »
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    yes yes yes yes yesssss Rancor is back

    i refuse to believe this is real.

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    I think I'm sitting magic out until Ravnica starts up. I just can't afford it right now. Shame I'm missing out on the end of this block and 2013.

    Also holy FUCK, Rancor. Welp fuck that.

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    The Good Doctor TranThe Good Doctor Tran Registered User regular
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    Jacques L'HommeJacques L'Homme BAH! He was a rank amateur compared to, DR. COLOSSUS!Registered User regular
    Melding wrote: »
    drp527 wrote: »
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    yes yes yes yes yesssss Rancor is back

    i refuse to believe this is real.

    Awe, c'mon. Rancor is mean, but it's not unreasonable, and it's certainly no Primal Bellow.

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    The Good Doctor TranThe Good Doctor Tran Registered User regular
    Not moldervine cloak either.

    God I loved moldervine cloak.

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    I'm An Elk; Shoot MeI'm An Elk; Shoot Me It's Fiddler Crab Season! Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
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    Oh man.

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    drp527drp527 We sacrifice our own That more may rise in their placeRegistered User regular
    been waiting on a better picture of that one, yeah I like it

    probably too expensive to make a big splash out of EDH but whatever the sheer amount of lands you can pull with that thing is great

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    So...uh. Expensive but fuck
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    Shock GShock G Registered User regular
    ol' bolas

    what a prick

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    drp527drp527 We sacrifice our own That more may rise in their placeRegistered User regular
    edited June 2012
    it'll give me another chance to pick up more Bolas 'walkers

    ...even though I don't use the one I already have, I really should find a new place for that thing

    kinda wish they'd given it new art even though I really like that one

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    SwillSwill Registered User regular
    Pretty sure he's a reprint

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    The Good Doctor TranThe Good Doctor Tran Registered User regular
    Direct reprint, still a very Timmy card that can't be played.

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