minor incidentexpert in a dying fieldnjRegistered Userregular
edited March 2012
Makes sense, because AMC likes getting these amazing, critically acclaimed series rolling, only to fuck with their budgets and schedules until they break.
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KirbithI appear to be made of delicious cake. Registered Userregular
That video has got me so pumped now. Seasons five is going to be simply amazing. I just wish we didn't have to wait until next year to get the second half of it.
Just started re-watching on Netflix. Awesome to see how it all started again, poor Emilio...melted into nothing.
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Am I the only person who is still pulling for Walter? I know he has done many many bad things (as have Jesse and Skyler) but I am still hoping for a happy ending for them. They sure have worked for it!
I feel bad for Walter, but I don't think I'm actually rooting for him to get away unscathed. He's not quite as loathsome as Vic Mackey, but I am waiting for the other shoe to drop and for Walter's house of lies to finally come down. I do think he's reached a point where I'd feel cheated, if Walter's fate would be "merely" dieing by the end of the show.
I feel bad for Walter, but I don't think I'm actually rooting for him to get away unscathed. He's not quite as loathsome as Vic Mackey, but I am waiting for the other shoe to drop and for Walter's house of lies to finally come down. I do think he's reached a point where I'd feel cheated, if Walter's fate would be "merely" dieing by the end of the show.
Interesting. To me, the only character who may be unredeemable and who is still alive is Skyler, but I would be fine with her getting out on too.
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reVerseAttack and Dethrone GodRegistered Userregular
edited June 2012
I stopped rooting for Walter sometime during season 3.
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AManFromEarthLet's get to twerk!The King in the SwampRegistered Userregular
I don't think you're supposed to root for Walter. The show's creator said that he wanted to show a good man becoming a bad one.
Even though she was threatening to bring everything crashing down on him? I might be biased because I hated her character from the start, but I also consider her getting Jesse hooked on heroin to be one of the absolute worst actions by anyone on the show, right behind Skyler cheating with her boss.
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AManFromEarthLet's get to twerk!The King in the SwampRegistered Userregular
Even though she was threatening to bring everything crashing down on him? I might be biased because I hated her character from the start, but I also consider her getting Jesse hooked on heroin to be one of the absolute worst actions by anyone on the show, right behind Skyler cheating with her boss.
It certainly doesn't absolve anyone of anything, everyone on this show is pretty terrible. I'm just saying for Walter, that was crossing the line. I never liked Skyler, she was a whiny jerkass from the start. "My husband has cancer, everything bad is happening to meeeeeeee" while that was a human reaction, it was a detestable one.
*I haven't seen season four yet, waiting on Netflix to update, though I'm caught up with most of the big ticket spoilers*
He made the hard decision at the end of Season 3, and IMO it was the right one.
Jesse killed her, if we're playing the blame game. He got her back on drugs.
Yeah, the end of season three didn't bother me at all, I totally got why he had to do that.
I don't know why, but Walter just standing there while she chokes to death was a line for me. I guess because it would've been easy to just turn her on her side or something, but still.
Could be sympathy for John de Lancie.
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spacekungfumanPoor and minority-filledRegistered User, __BANNED USERSregular
He made the hard decision at the end of Season 3, and IMO it was the right one.
Jesse killed her, if we're playing the blame game. He got her back on drugs.
Yeah, the end of season three didn't bother me at all, I totally got why he had to do that.
I don't know why, but Walter just standing there while she chokes to death was a line for me. I guess because it would've been easy to just turn her on her side or something, but still.
Could be sympathy for John de Lancie.
I meant season 2, whoops. But season 3 was similarly Walt making a hard decision to once again save Jesses life. Really, if Jesse didn't fuck up so much everything would be fine.
So I was thinking about what will finally bring him down, and I figured they would drag something back up from the first few episodes. The guy in the basement he killed was law enforcement of some kind(maybe DEA? I forget.), and I see them tying that back to him somehow. More likely skylers boss will get tied back. However he is easier to cover up since he owed back taxes, was shady, and suddenly got an influx of cash.
I don't think it was the right decision. It was practical and convenient, but hardly "right". At least if we include any notion of morality in the decisions the main characters make.
I think one of the strengths of this show's writing is that most characters make choices that are on rare occasions morally sound, but most often driven by an urgent sense of self-preservation or petty desires and feelings of revenge and greed.
I don't think it was the right decision. It was practical and convenient, but hardly "right". At least if we include any notion of morality in the decisions the main characters make.
I think one of the strengths of this show's writing is that most characters make choices that are on rare occasions morally sound, but most often driven by an urgent sense of self-preservation or petty desires and feelings of revenge and greed.
I think its asking a lot to expect people to sacrifice themselves for the good of someone who is trying to destroy them (and who is literally destroying your friend in front of your eyes). It wasn't a nice decision or a decision we would want to encourage people to make with forethought, but I don't hold it against him, since it seemed reasonable in the moment, to me.
I don't know. He let another person die, so he could continue profiting from cooking meth. The fact that it was arguably helping Jesse get out of his drug spiral was an added bonus. I think it's easy to fall for the rationalisations that Walter makes for his horrid actions, but I think there's a case to be made that they are just that: rationalisations of monstrous acts.
I don't know. He let another person die, so he could continue profiting from cooking meth. The fact that it was arguably helping Jesse get out of his drug spiral was an added bonus. I think it's easy to fall for the rationalisations that Walter makes for his horrid actions, but I think there's a case to be made that they are just that: rationalisations of monstrous acts.
It wasn't just to continue profiting from cooking meth though. It was to keep his family from finding out what he was doing, which would have destroyed them, and which would have destroyed his brother-in-law's career. I'm not saying it was awesome, but it wasn't only done so he could keep making fat stacks.
I don't know. He let another person die, so he could continue profiting from cooking meth. The fact that it was arguably helping Jesse get out of his drug spiral was an added bonus. I think it's easy to fall for the rationalisations that Walter makes for his horrid actions, but I think there's a case to be made that they are just that: rationalisations of monstrous acts.
It wasn't just to continue profiting from cooking meth though. It was to keep his family from finding out what he was doing, which would have destroyed them, and which would have destroyed his brother-in-law's career. I'm not saying it was awesome, but it wasn't only done so he could keep making fat stacks.
That's true. It was also done so he could avoid the repercussions of his actions. Which is probably why I don't want Walter to die at the end of the series.
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First half of Season 5.
GET HYPED
Here is a video to help you get hyped (WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILERS)
Steam ID XBL: JohnnyChopsocky PSN:Stud_Beefpile WiiU:JohnnyChopsocky
Why no season 4
Why have you forsaken me?
What would Mr.White do?
It's not on any Netflix yet.
Although I'm just going to pick up the BluRay when it releases in June, because this show demands HD.
Steam ID XBL: JohnnyChopsocky PSN:Stud_Beefpile WiiU:JohnnyChopsocky
Oculus: TheBigDookie | XBL: Dook | NNID: BigDookie
Can't wait for it.
wow.
I had forgotten how completely awesome those 4 seasons have been.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0BuC2OrVIU
And here's another tribute to the greatness of Walter White.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6BQKFs3-VM
Interesting. To me, the only character who may be unredeemable and who is still alive is Skyler, but I would be fine with her getting out on too.
In my book, mission accomplished.
Really?
*I haven't seen season four yet, waiting on Netflix to update, though I'm caught up with most of the big ticket spoilers*
I don't know why, but Walter just standing there while she chokes to death was a line for me. I guess because it would've been easy to just turn her on her side or something, but still.
Could be sympathy for John de Lancie.
I meant season 2, whoops. But season 3 was similarly Walt making a hard decision to once again save Jesses life. Really, if Jesse didn't fuck up so much everything would be fine.
I agree.
I think one of the strengths of this show's writing is that most characters make choices that are on rare occasions morally sound, but most often driven by an urgent sense of self-preservation or petty desires and feelings of revenge and greed.
I think its asking a lot to expect people to sacrifice themselves for the good of someone who is trying to destroy them (and who is literally destroying your friend in front of your eyes). It wasn't a nice decision or a decision we would want to encourage people to make with forethought, but I don't hold it against him, since it seemed reasonable in the moment, to me.
It wasn't just to continue profiting from cooking meth though. It was to keep his family from finding out what he was doing, which would have destroyed them, and which would have destroyed his brother-in-law's career. I'm not saying it was awesome, but it wasn't only done so he could keep making fat stacks.
That's true. It was also done so he could avoid the repercussions of his actions. Which is probably why I don't want Walter to die at the end of the series.
I think the writers accomplished their goal.
There were exactly 2 choices here. Turn her and she lives. Do anything else and she dies. What is the third option you are offering?
Shoot her in the head so she doesn't rise again.
Oh wait, that's a different AMC show.