Glad I re-installed the original this afternoon, I've already got a story brewing here.
On my first mission, I had only one casualty: a friendly fire incident when Otto Heinsch took a reaction shot.
From now on, he is my pointman, seeking redemption -- and dammit if he won't be squad leader someday. He already saved poor Mikhail's life, charged into a grove of trees to take out the Sectoid that had just winged Mikhail's ear. Turns out there were two in that orchard, and Otto shot 'em both right between the eyes.
Gods I love this game.
I had a Colonel who friendly fired a guy to death early in his career.
It wasn't reaction fire or anything. I just clicked to shoot an alien, and Grigori decided to take the order as "Spin 90 degrees to kill that promising American squaddie right near you."
Reading the interviews has convinced me to go to classic for my first run. Pride cometh before a fall and all that, but it looks like normal would be too easy, and classic is just about right if you've beaten the old ones.
Still not going ironman first time out. I may be overconfident, but I'm not suicidal.
Ironman strikes me as the sort of thing you'd want to have on no matter what difficulty you play at, because it keeps you from getting into the savescumming crutch mindset and forces you to play the game in a way where your decisions really matter. Starting on classic but reloading whenever something goes horribly wrong seems to be an odd way to go about it - if you don't want horribly wrong stuff to happen in the first place, then why not play on an easier difficulty rather than just reloading every time it happens?
Goddamnit, will you please buy this game. It is physically paining me knowing you aren't buying it.
Remind me, what is Tycho's reason again?
Too many games already. Like, what the fuck ever dude. A good game is a good game and it gets to the top of the que.
Well, that and the fact that unless multiplayer takes off, there's no reason not to wait for it to go on sale. I'm curious as to what my ironman comments have to do with it though.
See the thing that gets me is my tour-de-google informed me that using a VPN to bypass the unlock date is indeed a bannable offense, but if you happen to actually be in the U.S when the game unlocks that's totally kosher. I'm not risking it though; I'll just start drinking heavily on thursday night and hopefully I'll come round at some time around 11am on friday when it unlocks.
Heh, just looked through the achievement list. There's one on there called "Bubonic" which you can only earn by playing a multiplayer match against someone who already has the achievement. I wonder who the patient zero is?
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Heh, just looked through the achievement list. There's one on there called "Bubonic" which you can only earn by playing a multiplayer match against someone who already has the achievement. I wonder who the patient zero is?
Reading the interviews has convinced me to go to classic for my first run. Pride cometh before a fall and all that, but it looks like normal would be too easy, and classic is just about right if you've beaten the old ones.
Still not going ironman first time out. I may be overconfident, but I'm not suicidal.
Ironman strikes me as the sort of thing you'd want to have on no matter what difficulty you play at, because it keeps you from getting into the savescumming crutch mindset and forces you to play the game in a way where your decisions really matter. Starting on classic but reloading whenever something goes horribly wrong seems to be an odd way to go about it - if you don't want horribly wrong stuff to happen in the first place, then why not play on an easier difficulty rather than just reloading every time it happens?
Running a game on Ironman the first time you play it is just stupid. Your decisions have no weight because you have no real basis to determine consequences.
Sure you do. It's not like you'll make one mistake and it's game over. If it's anything like the original you'll have plenty of room to screw up and recover without needing to resort to savescumming.
Actually, on Classic Ironman, Jake has pretty much said that if you wipe twice, you may as well start over. And on Impossible, one wipe pretty much equals game over.
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Hm so I've had a growing interest in this game over the last day or so and all the praise that's been heaped upon it. I know it's probably better on PC, but I just got borderlands 2, and my hard drive is unfortunately quite small, and I have to uninstall games to install other games. I don't really have a free 15-20 gigs laying around on my steam drive for both of the games. So, would I be really missing out if I get it on ps3? I don't really have much of an interest in multiplayer, so I don't mind not having it on PC, or is that a mistake?
One way or another I probably won't think about actually buying the game until next weekend. Study study. I haven't even been able to play borderlands yet.
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Hm so I've had a growing interest in this game over the last day or so and all the praise that's been heaped upon it. I know it's probably better on PC, but I just got borderlands 2, and my hard drive is unfortunately quite small, and I have to uninstall games to install other games. I don't really have a free 15-20 gigs laying around on my steam drive for both of the games. So, would I be really missing out if I get it on ps3? I don't really have much of an interest in multiplayer, so I don't mind not having it on PC, or is that a mistake?
One way or another I probably won't think about actually buying the game until next weekend. Study study. I haven't even been able to play borderlands yet.
Only thing you'd miss out on is potential modding support. Otherwise, gameplay is identical.
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Most of his negatives are things that could be easily patched or modded on the PC.
I would hope so. I'll be annoyed if the control niggles aren't something that's just relegated to the pre-release review builds.
The controls in the demo were fine once you got used to them. I don't see any reason to be "annoyed" that there isn't a day zero patch for tiny issues.
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Hm so I've had a growing interest in this game over the last day or so and all the praise that's been heaped upon it. I know it's probably better on PC, but I just got borderlands 2, and my hard drive is unfortunately quite small, and I have to uninstall games to install other games. I don't really have a free 15-20 gigs laying around on my steam drive for both of the games. So, would I be really missing out if I get it on ps3? I don't really have much of an interest in multiplayer, so I don't mind not having it on PC, or is that a mistake?
One way or another I probably won't think about actually buying the game until next weekend. Study study. I haven't even been able to play borderlands yet.
Mmm. So.. the Firaxis team is going to be at the Gamestop about 15 minutes from my house for the Midnight launch of this. If it didn't mean leaving my wife and newborn at home, I would absolutely be going to that.
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Clearly the solution is just to bring them with you to engage in the important festivities.
Mmm. So.. the Firaxis team is going to be at the Gamestop about 15 minutes from my house for the Midnight launch of this. If it didn't mean leaving my wife and newborn at home, I would absolutely be going to that.
Go there, punch them for not including coop. Your wife will understand that you're doing this for justice.
Mmm. So.. the Firaxis team is going to be at the Gamestop about 15 minutes from my house for the Midnight launch of this. If it didn't mean leaving my wife and newborn at home, I would absolutely be going to that.
They probably want several hours of alone time anyway. You'd be doing them a favour. Letting them bond.
Reading the interviews has convinced me to go to classic for my first run. Pride cometh before a fall and all that, but it looks like normal would be too easy, and classic is just about right if you've beaten the old ones.
Still not going ironman first time out. I may be overconfident, but I'm not suicidal.
Ironman strikes me as the sort of thing you'd want to have on no matter what difficulty you play at, because it keeps you from getting into the savescumming crutch mindset and forces you to play the game in a way where your decisions really matter. Starting on classic but reloading whenever something goes horribly wrong seems to be an odd way to go about it - if you don't want horribly wrong stuff to happen in the first place, then why not play on an easier difficulty rather than just reloading every time it happens?
Running a game on Ironman the first time you play it is just stupid. Your decisions have no weight because you have no real basis to determine consequences.
Sure you do. It's not like you'll make one mistake and it's game over. If it's anything like the original you'll have plenty of room to screw up and recover without needing to resort to savescumming.
Actually, on Classic Ironman, Jake has pretty much said that if you wipe twice, you may as well start over. And on Impossible, one wipe pretty much equals game over.
Really? That's a shame. My video is actually about the fact that in the real "classic" game you can do things like wipe twice and keep going, and why that's extremely important to X-Com as a game.
Reading the interviews has convinced me to go to classic for my first run. Pride cometh before a fall and all that, but it looks like normal would be too easy, and classic is just about right if you've beaten the old ones.
Still not going ironman first time out. I may be overconfident, but I'm not suicidal.
Ironman strikes me as the sort of thing you'd want to have on no matter what difficulty you play at, because it keeps you from getting into the savescumming crutch mindset and forces you to play the game in a way where your decisions really matter. Starting on classic but reloading whenever something goes horribly wrong seems to be an odd way to go about it - if you don't want horribly wrong stuff to happen in the first place, then why not play on an easier difficulty rather than just reloading every time it happens?
Running a game on Ironman the first time you play it is just stupid. Your decisions have no weight because you have no real basis to determine consequences.
Sure you do. It's not like you'll make one mistake and it's game over. If it's anything like the original you'll have plenty of room to screw up and recover without needing to resort to savescumming.
Actually, on Classic Ironman, Jake has pretty much said that if you wipe twice, you may as well start over. And on Impossible, one wipe pretty much equals game over.
Really? That's a shame. My video is actually about the fact that in the real "classic" game you can do things like wipe twice and keep going, and why that's extremely important to X-Com as a game.
I mean, there's nothing stopping you from perservering. Jake, for example, thought getting as far as one of their guys did in Impossible Ironman would be impossible, and he's said he doesn't find Impossible to be fun for himself personally--so, for people who are hardcore, they could likely keep going with a squad of rookies late game. But generally that is a sign that the end is nigh.
Edit: Also, the original X-Com could give you wipes through no fault of your own. In the new one, you're not going to wipe unless you play an active part in it.
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Reading the interviews has convinced me to go to classic for my first run. Pride cometh before a fall and all that, but it looks like normal would be too easy, and classic is just about right if you've beaten the old ones.
Still not going ironman first time out. I may be overconfident, but I'm not suicidal.
Ironman strikes me as the sort of thing you'd want to have on no matter what difficulty you play at, because it keeps you from getting into the savescumming crutch mindset and forces you to play the game in a way where your decisions really matter. Starting on classic but reloading whenever something goes horribly wrong seems to be an odd way to go about it - if you don't want horribly wrong stuff to happen in the first place, then why not play on an easier difficulty rather than just reloading every time it happens?
Running a game on Ironman the first time you play it is just stupid. Your decisions have no weight because you have no real basis to determine consequences.
Sure you do. It's not like you'll make one mistake and it's game over. If it's anything like the original you'll have plenty of room to screw up and recover without needing to resort to savescumming.
Actually, on Classic Ironman, Jake has pretty much said that if you wipe twice, you may as well start over. And on Impossible, one wipe pretty much equals game over.
Really? That's a shame. My video is actually about the fact that in the real "classic" game you can do things like wipe twice and keep going, and why that's extremely important to X-Com as a game.
I mean, there's nothing stopping you from perservering. Jake, for example, thought getting as far as one of their guys did in Impossible Ironman would be impossible, and he's said he doesn't find Impossible to be fun for himself personally--so, for people who are hardcore, they could likely keep going with a squad of rookies late game. But generally that is a sign that the end is nigh.
Sure, but a "classic" mode should be... like the classic, no?
More importantly, you make it sounds like they tried to make the tactical and strategic elements equally as hard, which is the biggest mistake that almost all of the failed remakes so far made. Again, it's all in the video.
Reading the interviews has convinced me to go to classic for my first run. Pride cometh before a fall and all that, but it looks like normal would be too easy, and classic is just about right if you've beaten the old ones.
Still not going ironman first time out. I may be overconfident, but I'm not suicidal.
Ironman strikes me as the sort of thing you'd want to have on no matter what difficulty you play at, because it keeps you from getting into the savescumming crutch mindset and forces you to play the game in a way where your decisions really matter. Starting on classic but reloading whenever something goes horribly wrong seems to be an odd way to go about it - if you don't want horribly wrong stuff to happen in the first place, then why not play on an easier difficulty rather than just reloading every time it happens?
Running a game on Ironman the first time you play it is just stupid. Your decisions have no weight because you have no real basis to determine consequences.
Sure you do. It's not like you'll make one mistake and it's game over. If it's anything like the original you'll have plenty of room to screw up and recover without needing to resort to savescumming.
Actually, on Classic Ironman, Jake has pretty much said that if you wipe twice, you may as well start over. And on Impossible, one wipe pretty much equals game over.
Really? That's a shame. My video is actually about the fact that in the real "classic" game you can do things like wipe twice and keep going, and why that's extremely important to X-Com as a game.
I mean, there's nothing stopping you from perservering. Jake, for example, thought getting as far as one of their guys did in Impossible Ironman would be impossible, and he's said he doesn't find Impossible to be fun for himself personally--so, for people who are hardcore, they could likely keep going with a squad of rookies late game. But generally that is a sign that the end is nigh.
Sure, but a "classic" mode should be... like the classic, no?
More importantly, you make it sounds like they tried to make the tactical and strategic elements equally as hard, which is the biggest mistake that almost all of the failed remakes so far made. Again, it's all in the video.
If you see my edit, I also mentioned that original X-Com can wipe your team on the first turn of a mission, without any say in anything. So, of course you can't have 1-2 wipes = death in the original.
As for the tactical and strategic level, Classic is about needing to be good at both levels to win. Normal is about just playing the Tactical level. Easy is.. well.. not to be played, really. :P
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I think I'll do something I haven't done yet: I'll do an LP of a game that just came out.
I'll take our name list, throw it into the game and then do a classic ironman game and see how that plays out. It'll be a video LP, of course.
What I might test out is rotating rookies in to each squad for the easier missions, to have a broad base of skill. That way if my team of unstoppable badasses gets aced, I'm not starting from scratch.
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Started a new UFO Defense game.
First UFO, Ethereals. Loose four people getting down the ramp to a guy camping there.
Second mission sectoids. I have a couple Laser Pistols at this point. Only lost one due to a sectoid APPEARING OUT OF FUCKING NO WHERE IN THE POWER CORE ROOM AFTER MY GUY CLEARED IT.
Third mission, everyone has laser pistols and there are two rifles carried by Sgts Rimmer and Lister. A third Laser Rifle is carried by second squad Sgt Frank Hill. He had a random name but my god he killed three floaters, one shot each, from the base of the skyranger at extreme range when the HWP rolled forward to reveal them then spun around and killed a fourth with his pistol, in one turn.
Fourth mission, Terror in Ciaro. Ten troops and a HWP all with Laser Rifles against floaters and reapers. Only one civilian is killed and I do not lose a person mostly due to strange clumping that resulted in my two squads standing around the skyranger killing everything. I had reaction fire from Frank Hill's squad kill three floaters in one turn.
Fifth Mission, now in February. Sectoid about five squares away from the bottom of the ramp. Start unloading guys to kill it. EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF MY TEAM misses with every shot. Lone sectoid just starts murdering everyone. I rage quit.
Hm so I've had a growing interest in this game over the last day or so and all the praise that's been heaped upon it. I know it's probably better on PC, but I just got borderlands 2, and my hard drive is unfortunately quite small, and I have to uninstall games to install other games. I don't really have a free 15-20 gigs laying around on my steam drive for both of the games. So, would I be really missing out if I get it on ps3? I don't really have much of an interest in multiplayer, so I don't mind not having it on PC, or is that a mistake?
One way or another I probably won't think about actually buying the game until next weekend. Study study. I haven't even been able to play borderlands yet.
Only thing you'd miss out on is potential modding support. Otherwise, gameplay is identical.
No it isn't. You will miss out on having full command of your pa brothers in arms.
Also if you upgrade your pc eventually you will be like 'wow, uber graphics'. If you upgrade your ps3 you will be like 'woe, not backward compatible, better getit for the pc'.
Right now I'm deciding whether or not to slap the custom names on immediately, so that my friends and family suffer for my terrible early mistakes... or to stick with the default names until the rookies move up in rank.
So I'm at work and everything gaming related is mostly blocked - what's the difference between classic and regular mode? Ironman means no quick-saving, right?
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I had a Colonel who friendly fired a guy to death early in his career.
It wasn't reaction fire or anything. I just clicked to shoot an alien, and Grigori decided to take the order as "Spin 90 degrees to kill that promising American squaddie right near you."
Good old Kolotov.
Don't think anyone gave him lip after that.
Why I fear the ocean.
See the thing that gets me is my tour-de-google informed me that using a VPN to bypass the unlock date is indeed a bannable offense, but if you happen to actually be in the U.S when the game unlocks that's totally kosher. I'm not risking it though; I'll just start drinking heavily on thursday night and hopefully I'll come round at some time around 11am on friday when it unlocks.
This game....when it came out, was there a manual that was included?
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Well, given that Jake will surely play with them, they might as well be.
Actually, on Classic Ironman, Jake has pretty much said that if you wipe twice, you may as well start over. And on Impossible, one wipe pretty much equals game over.
I had the Xcom and TFTD double pack - came in a thick cardboard box, and has 2 manuals and 2 strategy guides.
That was one big, heavy fucking box.
I think I threw it away years ago...
One way or another I probably won't think about actually buying the game until next weekend. Study study. I haven't even been able to play borderlands yet.
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Only thing you'd miss out on is potential modding support. Otherwise, gameplay is identical.
Most of his negatives are things that could be easily patched or modded on the PC.
I would hope so. I'll be annoyed if the control niggles aren't something that's just relegated to the pre-release review builds.
The controls in the demo were fine once you got used to them. I don't see any reason to be "annoyed" that there isn't a day zero patch for tiny issues.
I'm heavily considering doing the same. But I may play straight Classic first, at least part-way through.
Only thing I care about: he uses a smoke grenade to obstruct shots on a soldier well outside of the smoke.
Yesssssss.
Go there, punch them for not including coop. Your wife will understand that you're doing this for justice.
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They probably want several hours of alone time anyway. You'd be doing them a favour. Letting them bond.
I mean, there's nothing stopping you from perservering. Jake, for example, thought getting as far as one of their guys did in Impossible Ironman would be impossible, and he's said he doesn't find Impossible to be fun for himself personally--so, for people who are hardcore, they could likely keep going with a squad of rookies late game. But generally that is a sign that the end is nigh.
Edit: Also, the original X-Com could give you wipes through no fault of your own. In the new one, you're not going to wipe unless you play an active part in it.
More importantly, you make it sounds like they tried to make the tactical and strategic elements equally as hard, which is the biggest mistake that almost all of the failed remakes so far made. Again, it's all in the video.
If you see my edit, I also mentioned that original X-Com can wipe your team on the first turn of a mission, without any say in anything. So, of course you can't have 1-2 wipes = death in the original.
As for the tactical and strategic level, Classic is about needing to be good at both levels to win. Normal is about just playing the Tactical level. Easy is.. well.. not to be played, really. :P
I'll take our name list, throw it into the game and then do a classic ironman game and see how that plays out. It'll be a video LP, of course.
First UFO, Ethereals. Loose four people getting down the ramp to a guy camping there.
Second mission sectoids. I have a couple Laser Pistols at this point. Only lost one due to a sectoid APPEARING OUT OF FUCKING NO WHERE IN THE POWER CORE ROOM AFTER MY GUY CLEARED IT.
Third mission, everyone has laser pistols and there are two rifles carried by Sgts Rimmer and Lister. A third Laser Rifle is carried by second squad Sgt Frank Hill. He had a random name but my god he killed three floaters, one shot each, from the base of the skyranger at extreme range when the HWP rolled forward to reveal them then spun around and killed a fourth with his pistol, in one turn.
Fourth mission, Terror in Ciaro. Ten troops and a HWP all with Laser Rifles against floaters and reapers. Only one civilian is killed and I do not lose a person mostly due to strange clumping that resulted in my two squads standing around the skyranger killing everything. I had reaction fire from Frank Hill's squad kill three floaters in one turn.
Fifth Mission, now in February. Sectoid about five squares away from the bottom of the ramp. Start unloading guys to kill it. EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF MY TEAM misses with every shot. Lone sectoid just starts murdering everyone. I rage quit.
No it isn't. You will miss out on having full command of your pa brothers in arms.
Also if you upgrade your pc eventually you will be like 'wow, uber graphics'. If you upgrade your ps3 you will be like 'woe, not backward compatible, better getit for the pc'.
Aw nuts to it, my loved ones are paste.
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