Here's the photo that I shamelessly ripped off heavily referenced.
I had an idea of what I wanted to do so I went looking for reference photos and really liked this style, and I decided to practice off it. Of course, mine is a thousand times better than his. Obviously.
Edit: check out his site here. It's really pretty neat.
Edit Edit: After posting his next to mine I'm suddenly embarrassed.
So I'm working on this self portrait, and I have had some issues with proportions in the face. I corrected an eye size irregularity to the best of my ability. Id like to know if I'm missing something that would stop this person in the drawing from being human.
I think I'm happy with how it looks so far. But y'all haven't been staring at it so I think a fresh perspective would help.
So I'm working on this self portrait, and I have had some issues with proportions in the face. I corrected an eye size irregularity to the best of my ability. Id like to know if I'm missing something that would stop this person in the drawing from being human.
I think I'm happy with how it looks so far. But y'all haven't been staring at it so I think a fresh perspective would help.
Thanks guys
The only thing I'm noticing is that the right eye looks a little too angled. Maybe rotate it a little. Also, maybe add some lighting or texture to the hair on the side of his head. Other than that everything looks great.
Yes, dang I'm sorry I don't have a scanner. Scosglen, I see the lines in the original and I can agree that there is an exaggeration that could be dealt with. I think it is what you, juggernut, are talking about in the left (our right) eye.
And the paper is strathmore natural white drawing paper. Again I feel really bad to ask y'all to critique a photo...
Let's say I don't want to fix it... Would I be seen as irresponsible? Or would I be executing my artistic license? Or would both be true?
I'm only college prep school trained mind you, and the purpose of this drawing is as an admission portfolio piece. So if everyone says fix it I will.
I just don't want to waste time making it perfect cause I got to push out more work...
Representing a mistake as artistic license is poor form. Artistic license is about deliberate statements, not a shield from criticism.
So your choices would be either including a slightly flawed piece that you know as such, or spend time fixing it. It's ultimately up to you to make that judgment call. You have to weigh your assessment of how much time it would take to fix it, how many more pieces you have to do, if you feel the quality of your portfolio pieces is above or below the expected standard for submissions, etc. I would say regarding portfolios in general, fewer but better pieces is preferable to volume, but you may have specific submission requirements and not have much choice.
It may just be that you live with this mistake and move on having learned a little bit more why it's important to nail proportions and placement early in the development of a piece. For (I'm assuming) 18 year old college applicants, I don't feel this would be seen as a particularly egregious or "irresponsible" mistake to leave in, but it might not help you if you're shooting for some kind of competitive merit scholarship or something.
Scosglen, do you know where to find a proportion technique? I know I messed up in the line work but it's hard for me to see it until some value goes down. Considering the magnitude of adjustment I prolly won't fix this eye problem, but take it as a lesson (still in the air).
It's still better than anything in my high school portfolio, so it's still a replacement.
I don't want to plum line exclusively, and failed to in this drawing because it is tedious. Is there a better method than plum lining? do I just need to draw from life more to understand spacial relationships better?
do I just need to draw from life more to understand spacial relationships better?
Short answer is yes.
Observational drawing is like physical exercise-- you can read techniques for how to throw a punch, or proper form for running, and they'll help, but ultimately you need to have strong muscles.
I am not the best source for observational measuring techniques, I tend to fire from the hip and only rely on plumb lines or distance comparisons when I can tell something has gone wrong. I trust myself to intuitively get most things correct and only rely on measurement when needed, precisely to avoid the tedium. I have specifically cultivated this method of working though, so I can't necessarily recommend it.
It can always be a bit tricky to catch mistakes if you're working in a vacuum on a highly observational piece, because you are ostensibly already leveraging your full attention to accuracy when a mistake happens. This is where having another set of eyes is valuable, or in dire circumstances when you can only rely on yourself, mirroring the image so that you can see it afresh.
jeez louise. Did you spraypaint it? How long did it take you? I'm in awe.
@m3nace is right, I use a (pretty small) brush and artist acrylics that are suitable for use outdoors. This took, roughly........ 30ish hours? But with a lot of cigarette and standing around in the heat breaks, so it's hard to tell. Lots of time up a rickety ladder. I get paid much less than I should. We've been getting great feedback from people passing by and it's started making the rounds on instagram, wooOOooo! Can't wait to finish it.
fun fact: I only just realized you can use a small section of a perspective setup for dramatic effect
for instance, the entire original one-point perspective setup for that thing was 6000 pixels wide
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Kinda stole the last idea from Jhonen Vasquez's Tumblr. Also, I can't draw letters.
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Here's the photo that I shamelessly ripped off heavily referenced.
I had an idea of what I wanted to do so I went looking for reference photos and really liked this style, and I decided to practice off it. Of course, mine is a thousand times better than his. Obviously.
Edit: check out his site here. It's really pretty neat.
Edit Edit: After posting his next to mine I'm suddenly embarrassed.
So I'm working on this self portrait, and I have had some issues with proportions in the face. I corrected an eye size irregularity to the best of my ability. Id like to know if I'm missing something that would stop this person in the drawing from being human.
I think I'm happy with how it looks so far. But y'all haven't been staring at it so I think a fresh perspective would help.
Thanks guys
The only thing I'm noticing is that the right eye looks a little too angled. Maybe rotate it a little. Also, maybe add some lighting or texture to the hair on the side of his head. Other than that everything looks great.
And the paper is strathmore natural white drawing paper. Again I feel really bad to ask y'all to critique a photo...
Let's say I don't want to fix it... Would I be seen as irresponsible? Or would I be executing my artistic license? Or would both be true?
I'm only college prep school trained mind you, and the purpose of this drawing is as an admission portfolio piece. So if everyone says fix it I will.
I just don't want to waste time making it perfect cause I got to push out more work...
So your choices would be either including a slightly flawed piece that you know as such, or spend time fixing it. It's ultimately up to you to make that judgment call. You have to weigh your assessment of how much time it would take to fix it, how many more pieces you have to do, if you feel the quality of your portfolio pieces is above or below the expected standard for submissions, etc. I would say regarding portfolios in general, fewer but better pieces is preferable to volume, but you may have specific submission requirements and not have much choice.
It may just be that you live with this mistake and move on having learned a little bit more why it's important to nail proportions and placement early in the development of a piece. For (I'm assuming) 18 year old college applicants, I don't feel this would be seen as a particularly egregious or "irresponsible" mistake to leave in, but it might not help you if you're shooting for some kind of competitive merit scholarship or something.
And here is from Magenta:
I'm doing two different art styles. Maybe I will do a Manga Noir webcomic in the future?
Georgia O'Keeffe
Be sure to like my Comic Book "Last Words" on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Last-Words-The-Comic-Book/458405034287767
and Magenta the Witchgirl!: http://www.drunkduck.com/Magenta_the_Witchgirl/
It's still better than anything in my high school portfolio, so it's still a replacement.
I don't want to plum line exclusively, and failed to in this drawing because it is tedious. Is there a better method than plum lining? do I just need to draw from life more to understand spacial relationships better?
Short answer is yes.
Observational drawing is like physical exercise-- you can read techniques for how to throw a punch, or proper form for running, and they'll help, but ultimately you need to have strong muscles.
I am not the best source for observational measuring techniques, I tend to fire from the hip and only rely on plumb lines or distance comparisons when I can tell something has gone wrong. I trust myself to intuitively get most things correct and only rely on measurement when needed, precisely to avoid the tedium. I have specifically cultivated this method of working though, so I can't necessarily recommend it.
It can always be a bit tricky to catch mistakes if you're working in a vacuum on a highly observational piece, because you are ostensibly already leveraging your full attention to accuracy when a mistake happens. This is where having another set of eyes is valuable, or in dire circumstances when you can only rely on yourself, mirroring the image so that you can see it afresh.
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is there a sexy lava golem around
why's he pitching a tent
@m3nace is right, I use a (pretty small) brush and artist acrylics that are suitable for use outdoors. This took, roughly........ 30ish hours? But with a lot of cigarette and standing around in the heat breaks, so it's hard to tell. Lots of time up a rickety ladder. I get paid much less than I should.
fun fact: I only just realized you can use a small section of a perspective setup for dramatic effect
for instance, the entire original one-point perspective setup for that thing was 6000 pixels wide