The thing I find interesting about gravity being a 'weak' force, is gravity is the force that shaped everything. Like, gravity forms stars and planets, directs orbits, which cause the seasons on Earth, and established the pattern of stars in the sky, which was a major influence in human development.
I consider gravity to be the most influential force in the universe in how it affects everything about everything we do.
But like
without the electromagnetic force there wouldn't be stars in the sky! Or anything but superdense black holes, probably.
Redundant! A black hole by definition has infinite density!
No! I am pretty sure a black hole's radius is usually nonzero, and defined by its event horizon!
Well, I believe technically the event horizon is simply the gravitational boundary marking the point of no return, not the radius of the body itself. Such a nit to pick, though.
Yeah, but I think that's the standard definition of the size of a black hole. Though they are often referred to as infinite density or as existing at a "point" in space.
I'm uncomfortable extrapolating anything here though, I just know that the definition could be a couple things.
Well, it's the thing around a singularity, so "pretty much". Nothing's getting out. Except when it evaporates but we're now getting all quantum and shit.
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Nova_CI have the needThe need for speedRegistered Userregular
The thing I find interesting about gravity being a 'weak' force, is gravity is the force that shaped everything. Like, gravity forms stars and planets, directs orbits, which cause the seasons on Earth, and established the pattern of stars in the sky, which was a major influence in human development.
I consider gravity to be the most influential force in the universe in how it affects everything about everything we do.
But like
without the electromagnetic force there wouldn't be stars in the sky! Or anything but superdense black holes, probably.
Redundant! A black hole by definition has infinite density!
No! I am pretty sure a black hole's radius is usually nonzero, and defined by its event horizon!
radius of the event horizon is determined by it's mass
But not linearly!
I think.
Fuck. Time to spend a day on Wikipedia remembering physics.
A black hole is defined as an object with zero volume and infinite density. They cannot have a radius. The event horizon is the point at which the gravitational pull is strong enough that light can no longer escape. (I think that's called the Schwartzchild radius, but I'm not sure).
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The thing I find interesting about gravity being a 'weak' force, is gravity is the force that shaped everything. Like, gravity forms stars and planets, directs orbits, which cause the seasons on Earth, and established the pattern of stars in the sky, which was a major influence in human development.
I consider gravity to be the most influential force in the universe in how it affects everything about everything we do.
But like
without the electromagnetic force there wouldn't be stars in the sky! Or anything but superdense black holes, probably.
Redundant! A black hole by definition has infinite density!
No! I am pretty sure a black hole's radius is usually nonzero, and defined by its event horizon!
Well, I believe technically the event horizon is simply the gravitational boundary marking the point of no return, not the radius of the body itself. Such a nit to pick, though.
Yeah, but I think that's the standard definition of the size of a black hole. Though they are often referred to as infinite density or as existing at a "point" in space.
I'm uncomfortable extrapolating anything here though, I just know that the definition could be a couple things.
Well, it's the thing around a singularity, so "pretty much". Nothing's getting out. Except when it evaporates but we're now getting all quantum and shit.
The difference between quantum mechanics and magic is that one is used in sci fi and the other in fantasy and that's pretty much it.
The thing I find interesting about gravity being a 'weak' force, is gravity is the force that shaped everything. Like, gravity forms stars and planets, directs orbits, which cause the seasons on Earth, and established the pattern of stars in the sky, which was a major influence in human development.
I consider gravity to be the most influential force in the universe in how it affects everything about everything we do.
But like
without the electromagnetic force there wouldn't be stars in the sky! Or anything but superdense black holes, probably.
Redundant! A black hole by definition has infinite density!
No! I am pretty sure a black hole's radius is usually nonzero, and defined by its event horizon!
radius of the event horizon is determined by it's mass
But not linearly!
I think.
Fuck. Time to spend a day on Wikipedia remembering physics.
A black hole is defined as an object with zero volume and infinite density. They cannot have a radius. The event horizon is the point at which the gravitational pull is strong enough that light can no longer escape. (I think that's called the Schwartzchild radius, but I'm not sure).
Schwarzchild radius, yeah. I thought some people used that as the definition? I could be really wrong here, obviously.
Also you can't have zero volume and infinite density! That breaks the density equation!
Though I mean, physicists might not be using our plebian math, so yeah.
The thing I find interesting about gravity being a 'weak' force, is gravity is the force that shaped everything. Like, gravity forms stars and planets, directs orbits, which cause the seasons on Earth, and established the pattern of stars in the sky, which was a major influence in human development.
I consider gravity to be the most influential force in the universe in how it affects everything about everything we do.
But like
without the electromagnetic force there wouldn't be stars in the sky! Or anything but superdense black holes, probably.
Redundant! A black hole by definition has infinite density!
No! I am pretty sure a black hole's radius is usually nonzero, and defined by its event horizon!
Well, I believe technically the event horizon is simply the gravitational boundary marking the point of no return, not the radius of the body itself. Such a nit to pick, though.
Yeah, but I think that's the standard definition of the size of a black hole. Though they are often referred to as infinite density or as existing at a "point" in space.
I'm uncomfortable extrapolating anything here though, I just know that the definition could be a couple things.
Well, it's the thing around a singularity, so "pretty much". Nothing's getting out. Except when it evaporates but we're now getting all quantum and shit.
The difference between quantum mechanics and magic is that one is used in sci fi and the other in fantasy and that's pretty much it.
what if you disguised magic as a mixture of quantum mechanics and nanomachines in a fantasy setting that no one is aware of?
The thing I find interesting about gravity being a 'weak' force, is gravity is the force that shaped everything. Like, gravity forms stars and planets, directs orbits, which cause the seasons on Earth, and established the pattern of stars in the sky, which was a major influence in human development.
I consider gravity to be the most influential force in the universe in how it affects everything about everything we do.
But like
without the electromagnetic force there wouldn't be stars in the sky! Or anything but superdense black holes, probably.
Redundant! A black hole by definition has infinite density!
No! I am pretty sure a black hole's radius is usually nonzero, and defined by its event horizon!
Well, I believe technically the event horizon is simply the gravitational boundary marking the point of no return, not the radius of the body itself. Such a nit to pick, though.
Yeah, but I think that's the standard definition of the size of a black hole. Though they are often referred to as infinite density or as existing at a "point" in space.
I'm uncomfortable extrapolating anything here though, I just know that the definition could be a couple things.
Well, it's the thing around a singularity, so "pretty much". Nothing's getting out. Except when it evaporates but we're now getting all quantum and shit.
The difference between quantum mechanics and magic is that one is used in sci fi and the other in fantasy and that's pretty much it.
nah, quantum is very well defined mathematicially. Exceedingly so. It's just the math involved requires so many years of study to get up to (its nearly all over my head and I did 4 years of abstract math in undergrad) that it does indeed appear squishy or like magic.
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Nova_CI have the needThe need for speedRegistered Userregular
The gravitational lensing effect is super cool. Wikipedia has a great gif demonstrating the effect.
Also, it hurts the brain to really consider an object with mass but no volume.
the environmentalists don't matter electorally. They are noisy but the senators don't listen to them. It has been decades since a green moral panic shook America
the people who matter are the farmers, who are far better represented and organized. They resent Monsanto because Monsanto wants to make them a captive market. Their own political strength is unassailable, even amongst Democrats. Insofar as the environmentalists serve their own interests, they are willing to party together. But they have a joint interest with Monsanto for joint lobbying for agricultural appropriations, and generic agricultural interests conflict all too easily with environmental interests. This gives the large agricultural companies a lever: they can rely on the farmers to break off en masse by throwing some crumbs whenever environmentalist-farmer opposition becomes too strong. Most of the appropriations might go to the large Ag, but the smaller farmers want them too.
And that's what's going to happen here: the environmentalist groups will make some noise, and it will abruptly collapse when appropriations season comes around.
The thing I find interesting about gravity being a 'weak' force, is gravity is the force that shaped everything. Like, gravity forms stars and planets, directs orbits, which cause the seasons on Earth, and established the pattern of stars in the sky, which was a major influence in human development.
I consider gravity to be the most influential force in the universe in how it affects everything about everything we do.
But like
without the electromagnetic force there wouldn't be stars in the sky! Or anything but superdense black holes, probably.
Redundant! A black hole by definition has infinite density!
No! I am pretty sure a black hole's radius is usually nonzero, and defined by its event horizon!
radius of the event horizon is determined by it's mass
But not linearly!
I think.
Fuck. Time to spend a day on Wikipedia remembering physics.
A black hole is defined as an object with zero volume and infinite density. They cannot have a radius. The event horizon is the point at which the gravitational pull is strong enough that light can no longer escape. (I think that's called the Schwartzchild radius, but I'm not sure).
Schwarzchild radius, yeah. I thought some people used that as the definition? I could be really wrong here, obviously.
Also you can't have zero volume and infinite density! That breaks the density equation!
Though I mean, physicists might not be using our plebian math, so yeah.
the density equation is an approximation. It only "breaks" with black holes because they violate the assumptions that it is approximating.
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ShivahnUnaware of her barrel shifter privilegeWestern coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderatormod
Was listening to NPR on the way to Home Depot, to pick up a 30 amp breaker, because we keep tripping a 20 amp breaker, so the easiest solution for my boss was "Building codes? What building codes?" but I digress.
Listening to NPR, they're talking about Spring Breakers, and the movie critic they're interviewing literally called it "This generation's Easy Rider" with zero sarcasm.
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AManFromEarthLet's get to twerk!The King in the SwampRegistered Userregular
Calling a state legislator "Congressman" is pretty bad pool. Pretending that racially stupid comments are not a big problem for your party is just sad, Spool.
I'd also say that the hippie/science divide in the democratic party is basically non existent. Like, it may be fun for you to watch, but it isn't an idealogical civil war on even a tenth of the scale as the one your party is currently engaged in.
So, to solve the problem of getting drawn into crazy-dick measuring contests it's a pretty simple step: stop whitewashing what's happening in the world and then getting your feelings hurt when someone calls you out on it.
That said, GMOs don't really bug me but I do think it's dumb to remove oversight on them. So bad law, but hardly one that makes me scared of buying some corn.
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Nova_CI have the needThe need for speedRegistered Userregular
The thing I find interesting about gravity being a 'weak' force, is gravity is the force that shaped everything. Like, gravity forms stars and planets, directs orbits, which cause the seasons on Earth, and established the pattern of stars in the sky, which was a major influence in human development.
I consider gravity to be the most influential force in the universe in how it affects everything about everything we do.
But like
without the electromagnetic force there wouldn't be stars in the sky! Or anything but superdense black holes, probably.
Redundant! A black hole by definition has infinite density!
No! I am pretty sure a black hole's radius is usually nonzero, and defined by its event horizon!
radius of the event horizon is determined by it's mass
But not linearly!
I think.
Fuck. Time to spend a day on Wikipedia remembering physics.
A black hole is defined as an object with zero volume and infinite density. They cannot have a radius. The event horizon is the point at which the gravitational pull is strong enough that light can no longer escape. (I think that's called the Schwartzchild radius, but I'm not sure).
Schwarzchild radius, yeah. I thought some people used that as the definition? I could be really wrong here, obviously.
Also you can't have zero volume and infinite density! That breaks the density equation!
Though I mean, physicists might not be using our plebian math, so yeah.
Black Holes break a few things.
Like your FACE
But yeah, black holes only form because the gravity overcomes the something-something-something barrier (It's the names of the three scientists who described it), which means that the star collapses infinitely. It has zero volume and infinite density.
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ShivahnUnaware of her barrel shifter privilegeWestern coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderatormod
The thing I find interesting about gravity being a 'weak' force, is gravity is the force that shaped everything. Like, gravity forms stars and planets, directs orbits, which cause the seasons on Earth, and established the pattern of stars in the sky, which was a major influence in human development.
I consider gravity to be the most influential force in the universe in how it affects everything about everything we do.
But like
without the electromagnetic force there wouldn't be stars in the sky! Or anything but superdense black holes, probably.
Redundant! A black hole by definition has infinite density!
No! I am pretty sure a black hole's radius is usually nonzero, and defined by its event horizon!
Well, I believe technically the event horizon is simply the gravitational boundary marking the point of no return, not the radius of the body itself. Such a nit to pick, though.
Yeah, but I think that's the standard definition of the size of a black hole. Though they are often referred to as infinite density or as existing at a "point" in space.
I'm uncomfortable extrapolating anything here though, I just know that the definition could be a couple things.
Well, it's the thing around a singularity, so "pretty much". Nothing's getting out. Except when it evaporates but we're now getting all quantum and shit.
The difference between quantum mechanics and magic is that one is used in sci fi and the other in fantasy and that's pretty much it.
nah, quantum is very well defined mathematicially. Exceedingly so. It's just the math involved requires so many years of study to get up to (its nearly all over my head and I did 4 years of abstract math in undergrad) that it does indeed appear squishy or like magic.
Oh yeah, I know. I was mostly poking fun at various fictions which throw the word "quantum" into something as though it's going to give it free will or some random ability they need for the plotline. It's up there with nano and photon and proton in terms of "words we threw on because fuck it we need a fancy sounding word that means magic"
also, blackholes are just concentrated high energy matter that you would never see in a non blackhole.
they are not singularities because that's a mathematical representation of a black hole based on a theory that doesn't cover the nature of black holes.
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I don't know why I get into these things with Than. Members of the GOP have said some p heinous crap over the last few years, and whenever I bite on his "well your side is worse" lure it ends badly. That is really the main goal for him - remain vigilant, deflect attention, and turn every embarrassment by an ally into an opportunity to trash the enemy.
It's p standard grassroots activist tactics and I ought not keep getting suckered in.
this is a pretty chickenshit comment considering you started this because you're too scared to venture outside of chat into actual threads these days.
All this white knighting must be wearing out your lance arm.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
The thing I find interesting about gravity being a 'weak' force, is gravity is the force that shaped everything. Like, gravity forms stars and planets, directs orbits, which cause the seasons on Earth, and established the pattern of stars in the sky, which was a major influence in human development.
I consider gravity to be the most influential force in the universe in how it affects everything about everything we do.
But like
without the electromagnetic force there wouldn't be stars in the sky! Or anything but superdense black holes, probably.
Redundant! A black hole by definition has infinite density!
No! I am pretty sure a black hole's radius is usually nonzero, and defined by its event horizon!
radius of the event horizon is determined by it's mass
But not linearly!
I think.
Fuck. Time to spend a day on Wikipedia remembering physics.
A black hole is defined as an object with zero volume and infinite density. They cannot have a radius. The event horizon is the point at which the gravitational pull is strong enough that light can no longer escape. (I think that's called the Schwartzchild radius, but I'm not sure).
Schwarzchild radius, yeah. I thought some people used that as the definition? I could be really wrong here, obviously.
Also you can't have zero volume and infinite density! That breaks the density equation!
Though I mean, physicists might not be using our plebian math, so yeah.
the density equation is an approximation. It only "breaks" with black holes because they violate the assumptions that it is approximating.
Hmm.
Yeah I wish I'd done a lot more physics in college.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
Was listening to NPR on the way to Home Depot, to pick up a 30 amp breaker, because we keep tripping a 20 amp breaker, so the easiest solution for my boss was "Building codes? What building codes?" but I digress.
Listening to NPR, they're talking about Spring Breakers, and the movie critic they're interviewing literally called it "This generation's Easy Rider" with zero sarcasm.
So, a boring, overrated epic about really not that much?
Allegedly a voice of reason.
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TTODewbackPuts the drawl in ya'llI think I'm in HellRegistered Userregular
Ugh, my burger at lunch was a charred mess. I bet the cook was high again
This is what drugs do to you kids.
They make you fucking burn my hamburger.
The thing I find interesting about gravity being a 'weak' force, is gravity is the force that shaped everything. Like, gravity forms stars and planets, directs orbits, which cause the seasons on Earth, and established the pattern of stars in the sky, which was a major influence in human development.
I consider gravity to be the most influential force in the universe in how it affects everything about everything we do.
But like
without the electromagnetic force there wouldn't be stars in the sky! Or anything but superdense black holes, probably.
Redundant! A black hole by definition has infinite density!
No! I am pretty sure a black hole's radius is usually nonzero, and defined by its event horizon!
radius of the event horizon is determined by it's mass
But not linearly!
I think.
Fuck. Time to spend a day on Wikipedia remembering physics.
A black hole is defined as an object with zero volume and infinite density. They cannot have a radius. The event horizon is the point at which the gravitational pull is strong enough that light can no longer escape. (I think that's called the Schwartzchild radius, but I'm not sure).
Schwarzchild radius, yeah. I thought some people used that as the definition? I could be really wrong here, obviously.
Also you can't have zero volume and infinite density! That breaks the density equation!
Though I mean, physicists might not be using our plebian math, so yeah.
Black Holes break a few things.
Like your FACE
But yeah, black holes only form because the gravity overcomes the something-something-something barrier (It's the names of the three scientists who described it), which means that the star collapses infinitely. It has zero volume and infinite density.
Chandrasekhar limit but that's just an observation from empirical data and is not the cause of say galactic black holes.
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Last night I went to bed at 7pm. I woke up at 7:30am.
I didn't sleep at all the night before, though, so that'll happen.
Was listening to NPR on the way to Home Depot, to pick up a 30 amp breaker, because we keep tripping a 20 amp breaker, so the easiest solution for my boss was "Building codes? What building codes?" but I digress.
Listening to NPR, they're talking about Spring Breakers, and the movie critic they're interviewing literally called it "This generation's Easy Rider" with zero sarcasm.
So, a boring, overrated epic about really not that much?
You shut your mouth.
Without Easy Rider we wouldn't have the first Venture Brothers season finale.
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I don't know why I get into these things with Than. Members of the GOP have said some p heinous crap over the last few years, and whenever I bite on his "well your side is worse" lure it ends badly. That is really the main goal for him - remain vigilant, deflect attention, and turn every embarrassment by an ally into an opportunity to trash the enemy.
It's p standard grassroots activist tactics and I ought not keep getting suckered in.
But remember, everyone, I started it.
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AManFromEarthLet's get to twerk!The King in the SwampRegistered Userregular
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There's a difference between digging through the permaban graveyard so you can shit on people and calling out a lazy argument.
the US environmentalist movement seems to have recognized when to shut the hell up about Big Science and Immigrants
like, you have to concede that Sierra Club was unified enough to issue a neutral stance rather than tear itself apart (and disintegrate to produce at least one loudly militant anti-brown-people wing)
that's strategic consideration there
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I used to work with the Sierra Club when I did lots of activist stuff
And geth remains to be as poor as ever at choosing the maker of the next [chat]!
choose someone who was still posting at the time!
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I am bitching about my burnt ass hamburger and waiting for my 1:30 meeting to start. Which is followed by a 2:15ish meeting
Which is followed by me posting in [chat] until I can leave and stop being sober.
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Well, it's the thing around a singularity, so "pretty much". Nothing's getting out. Except when it evaporates but we're now getting all quantum and shit.
A black hole is defined as an object with zero volume and infinite density. They cannot have a radius. The event horizon is the point at which the gravitational pull is strong enough that light can no longer escape. (I think that's called the Schwartzchild radius, but I'm not sure).
The difference between quantum mechanics and magic is that one is used in sci fi and the other in fantasy and that's pretty much it.
@eddy i have found the woman for you
you shouldn't do that, of course
but i'm sayin'
Schwarzchild radius, yeah. I thought some people used that as the definition? I could be really wrong here, obviously.
Also you can't have zero volume and infinite density! That breaks the density equation!
Though I mean, physicists might not be using our plebian math, so yeah.
what if you disguised magic as a mixture of quantum mechanics and nanomachines in a fantasy setting that no one is aware of?
nah, quantum is very well defined mathematicially. Exceedingly so. It's just the math involved requires so many years of study to get up to (its nearly all over my head and I did 4 years of abstract math in undergrad) that it does indeed appear squishy or like magic.
Also, it hurts the brain to really consider an object with mass but no volume.
basically
the environmentalists don't matter electorally. They are noisy but the senators don't listen to them. It has been decades since a green moral panic shook America
the people who matter are the farmers, who are far better represented and organized. They resent Monsanto because Monsanto wants to make them a captive market. Their own political strength is unassailable, even amongst Democrats. Insofar as the environmentalists serve their own interests, they are willing to party together. But they have a joint interest with Monsanto for joint lobbying for agricultural appropriations, and generic agricultural interests conflict all too easily with environmental interests. This gives the large agricultural companies a lever: they can rely on the farmers to break off en masse by throwing some crumbs whenever environmentalist-farmer opposition becomes too strong. Most of the appropriations might go to the large Ag, but the smaller farmers want them too.
And that's what's going to happen here: the environmentalist groups will make some noise, and it will abruptly collapse when appropriations season comes around.
It's about money, but the wrong flow of money.
the density equation is an approximation. It only "breaks" with black holes because they violate the assumptions that it is approximating.
I haven't not woken up in the middle of the night in like two weeks.
Listening to NPR, they're talking about Spring Breakers, and the movie critic they're interviewing literally called it "This generation's Easy Rider" with zero sarcasm.
I'd also say that the hippie/science divide in the democratic party is basically non existent. Like, it may be fun for you to watch, but it isn't an idealogical civil war on even a tenth of the scale as the one your party is currently engaged in.
So, to solve the problem of getting drawn into crazy-dick measuring contests it's a pretty simple step: stop whitewashing what's happening in the world and then getting your feelings hurt when someone calls you out on it.
That said, GMOs don't really bug me but I do think it's dumb to remove oversight on them. So bad law, but hardly one that makes me scared of buying some corn.
Black Holes break a few things.
Like your FACE
But yeah, black holes only form because the gravity overcomes the something-something-something barrier (It's the names of the three scientists who described it), which means that the star collapses infinitely. It has zero volume and infinite density.
Oh yeah, I know. I was mostly poking fun at various fictions which throw the word "quantum" into something as though it's going to give it free will or some random ability they need for the plotline. It's up there with nano and photon and proton in terms of "words we threw on because fuck it we need a fancy sounding word that means magic"
they are not singularities because that's a mathematical representation of a black hole based on a theory that doesn't cover the nature of black holes.
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I'm not sure if it's your cup of tea. But it is pretty neat.
All this white knighting must be wearing out your lance arm.
Hmm.
Yeah I wish I'd done a lot more physics in college.
So, a boring, overrated epic about really not that much?
This is what drugs do to you kids.
They make you fucking burn my hamburger.
I've been sleep from around 4-9am til about 2-5pm for like a week now. It's fucking up my ability to get anything done.
Chandrasekhar limit but that's just an observation from empirical data and is not the cause of say galactic black holes.
I didn't sleep at all the night before, though, so that'll happen.
You shut your mouth.
Without Easy Rider we wouldn't have the first Venture Brothers season finale.
Dun dun duuuuuuun.
What the fuck is this world coming to.
like, you have to concede that Sierra Club was unified enough to issue a neutral stance rather than tear itself apart (and disintegrate to produce at least one loudly militant anti-brown-people wing)
that's strategic consideration there
choose someone who was still posting at the time!
I am bitching about my burnt ass hamburger and waiting for my 1:30 meeting to start. Which is followed by a 2:15ish meeting
Which is followed by me posting in [chat] until I can leave and stop being sober.
Bowenism: the hip new religion for cool cat [chat]ters.