What about The Kingkiller Chronicles? I'm intrigued with it's plot synopsis.
Haha welllllllllll
I like them but Kvothe is a prime example of the worst sort of protagonist who can absolutely do no wrong
Also he spends a lot of time faffing about in the first two books to the point that the third one will have A LOT of ground to cover whenever it comes out
But there are definitely some cool things about the world and its lore
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Re: Kingkiller Chronicle
I like it quite a bit and so do a lot of other people.
There are some silly geese who think the main character is a Mary Sue, but feel free to ignore them.
Also feel free to ignore the comparisons to Harry Potter. It resembles HP only in the most general sense, i.e. The main character is a special snowflake and goes to a magic school. It's more of a serious fantasy.
Edit: this post is not a response to Grey Ghost, even though it may look like it.
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there's some merits to the arguments of people who say kvothe only seems like a mary sue because the embellishment of his actions is something intentionally built into the unreliable narration of the story, and how one of the main themes of the series is the juxtaposition of myth and legend and the actual circumstances that inspire them.
On the other hand there's that whole dreadful sequence in the fay world that lasts FOR FUCKING EVER and is just the worst sort of authorial indulgence.
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there's some merits to the arguments of people who say kvothe only seems like a mary sue because the embellishment of his actions is something intentionally built into the unreliable narration of the story, and how one of the main themes of the series is the juxtaposition of myth and legend and the actual circumstances that inspire them.
On the other hand there's that whole dreadful sequence in the fay world that lasts FOR FUCKING EVER and is just the worst sort of authorial indulgence.
isn't that where he bangs the fairy queen and becomes THE GREATEST LOVER EVER
I'll be honest, I find non-fantasy books boring. Now I'm not saying that's a fact, just what I think.
I would say this is because you ain't read the right ones but I guess neither of us got the time or energy for me to try to turn all your reading preferences around
there's some merits to the arguments of people who say kvothe only seems like a mary sue because the embellishment of his actions is something intentionally built into the unreliable narration of the story, and how one of the main themes of the series is the juxtaposition of myth and legend and the actual circumstances that inspire them.
On the other hand there's that whole dreadful sequence in the fay world that lasts FOR FUCKING EVER and is just the worst sort of authorial indulgence.
isn't that where he bangs the fairy queen and becomes THE GREATEST LOVER EVER
there's some merits to the arguments of people who say kvothe only seems like a mary sue because the embellishment of his actions is something intentionally built into the unreliable narration of the story, and how one of the main themes of the series is the juxtaposition of myth and legend and the actual circumstances that inspire them.
On the other hand there's that whole dreadful sequence in the fay world that lasts FOR FUCKING EVER and is just the worst sort of authorial indulgence.
I read the entire Silmarillion, I can get through some slow parts of a book now.
there's some merits to the arguments of people who say kvothe only seems like a mary sue because the embellishment of his actions is something intentionally built into the unreliable narration of the story, and how one of the main themes of the series is the juxtaposition of myth and legend and the actual circumstances that inspire them.
On the other hand there's that whole dreadful sequence in the fay world that lasts FOR FUCKING EVER and is just the worst sort of authorial indulgence.
isn't that where he bangs the fairy queen and becomes THE GREATEST LOVER EVER
I'll be honest, I find non-fantasy books boring. Now I'm not saying that's a fact, just what I think.
I would say this is because you ain't read the right ones but I guess neither of us got the time or energy for me to try to turn all your reading preferences around
I'm sure there are non-fantasy books I'd find rewarding experiences but I'll stick with fantasy for now.
how strictly do you define 'fantasy' anyway, wirehead
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The thing with Kvothe people seem to forget is he fucks up all the time.
Spoilers for book two
the whole reason he ends up in the Fay world is he takes a semester off because he screwed up the pre-term exams. And since it's Kvothe telling the story, he's not exactly shy about criticizing his own youthful actions.
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have you read like, Neil Gaiman, or anything like that
Does Good Omens count?
sorta!
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You should read The First Law trilogy by Joe Abercrombie.
Or R.Scott Bakker's Prince of Nothing trilogy.
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I really like the Kingkiller Chronicles and I think that some of the talk about Kvothe being a Mary Sue is out of line with how he is presented as a character
But yeah that second book has some parts that are duuuuuumb and much like the first, it less "ends" so much as "peters out"
The dude can build pretty prose like nobody's business but I am a little worried he won't be able to end that trilogy properly and the last book will the most roundabout journey to an unsatisfying climax since Wheel of Time
Contrast this with the Gentleman Bastard books, and they're pretty much constantly on, and constantly entertaining, and only occasionally clunky or rushed (Republic of Thieves is a delight, so far, though I'm only a few chapters in)
Oh shit I can't believe I forgot the Dexter book series. So far I've read the first, second, and fourth novel and enjoyed them well enough. But I was warned to NEVER READ THE THIRD.
I really like the Kingkiller Chronicles and I think that some of the talk about Kvothe being a Mary Sue is out of line with how he is presented as a character
But yeah that second book has some parts that are duuuuuumb and much like the first, it less "ends" so much as "peters out"
The dude can build pretty prose like nobody's business but I am a little worried he won't be able to end that trilogy properly and the last book will the most roundabout journey to an unsatisfying climax since Wheel of Time
Contrast this with the Gentleman Bastard books, and they're pretty much constantly on, and constantly entertaining, and only occasionally clunky or rushed (Republic of Thieves is a delight, so far, though I'm only a few chapters in)
the alternative to the roundabout journey to an unsatisfying climax is that book ends up being like 1500 pages long
because from where I'm standing he's got a long fucking way to go before he becomes 'Kvothe'
@Olivaw I have to say I have never really cared about the flashbacks to Locke's youth, except inasmuch as they're necessary to set up Sabetha
Really? I found the flashbacks in the first book a really clever little device to foreshadow lessons and schemes that would come into play shortly afterward
The third book starting out with one is an odd choice, but I like them for the characters. And they end soon enough anyways
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We're saving you from the disappointment when it goes off the fucking rails.
It's better not to have invested your time in those first few decent books.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Haha welllllllllll
I like them but Kvothe is a prime example of the worst sort of protagonist who can absolutely do no wrong
Also he spends a lot of time faffing about in the first two books to the point that the third one will have A LOT of ground to cover whenever it comes out
But there are definitely some cool things about the world and its lore
I like it quite a bit and so do a lot of other people.
There are some silly geese who think the main character is a Mary Sue, but feel free to ignore them.
Also feel free to ignore the comparisons to Harry Potter. It resembles HP only in the most general sense, i.e. The main character is a special snowflake and goes to a magic school. It's more of a serious fantasy.
Edit: this post is not a response to Grey Ghost, even though it may look like it.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
But what's the fun of that?
if you ever read that book, stop at the halfway point and make up any other ending you want, it won't be as dumb as what the ending was
anyway, kvothe is totally a mary sue, but it's a fantasy novel so who gives a crap
Well, he's pretty much right. The only books I currently read are fantasy stuff.
yeah sorry I wouldn't drop some judgement on a dude if I didn't think I was speaking from a place of fact, and here's wirehead backing me up
you win!
On the other hand there's that whole dreadful sequence in the fay world that lasts FOR FUCKING EVER and is just the worst sort of authorial indulgence.
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gotta get that now
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isn't that where he bangs the fairy queen and becomes THE GREATEST LOVER EVER
I would say this is because you ain't read the right ones but I guess neither of us got the time or energy for me to try to turn all your reading preferences around
yes kvothe is now the supreme sex god
i find this development thrilling and fascinating
I read the entire Silmarillion, I can get through some slow parts of a book now.
over the course of like 60-80 pages yes
I'm sure there are non-fantasy books I'd find rewarding experiences but I'll stick with fantasy for now.
Tolkein?
Spoilers for book two
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
pretty strict
have
have you read like, Neil Gaiman, or anything like that
Does Good Omens count?
sorta!
You should read The First Law trilogy by Joe Abercrombie.
Or R.Scott Bakker's Prince of Nothing trilogy.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
But yeah that second book has some parts that are duuuuuumb and much like the first, it less "ends" so much as "peters out"
The dude can build pretty prose like nobody's business but I am a little worried he won't be able to end that trilogy properly and the last book will the most roundabout journey to an unsatisfying climax since Wheel of Time
Contrast this with the Gentleman Bastard books, and they're pretty much constantly on, and constantly entertaining, and only occasionally clunky or rushed (Republic of Thieves is a delight, so far, though I'm only a few chapters in)
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the alternative to the roundabout journey to an unsatisfying climax is that book ends up being like 1500 pages long
because from where I'm standing he's got a long fucking way to go before he becomes 'Kvothe'
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Really? I found the flashbacks in the first book a really clever little device to foreshadow lessons and schemes that would come into play shortly afterward
The third book starting out with one is an odd choice, but I like them for the characters. And they end soon enough anyways
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