A lot of pro-abstinence people must feel some kind of intense jealousy deep down inside toward people who have healthy active sex lives. For as much as their philosophy may decry it, it's difficult to ignore a physical necessity, and how dare anyone else enjoy it when they cannot.
I think it's this that causes the "double down" mentality to take root.
If you're doing something that isn't measurably enriching your life, and those who go without your philosophy seem to be having a good time, many times it causes you to freak the fuck out and become some lunatic crusader. It leads you to telling a whole auditorium of 16 year olds that they'll wind up loveless and unwanted if they have sex.
Because how dare they not live up to the arbitrary standards you place on them.
isn't this kind of true of anyone who sets restrictive standards on themselves?
like, you see the same sort of thing - contempt - from fit people who work out all the time or diet strictly towards those who don't.
you see the same thing from people with any other moral precept that they adhere to - liars or manipulators or the cruel or the amoral.
you see the same thing from people who keep their promises wrt those who do not.
you see it from people of refined tastes who look down on those who have unrefined (by their standards) tastes.
like - take any one thing about yourself that you are proud of. the people who do not have that quality are inferior in some way, whether it's ignorance or a lack of talent or a lack of scruples or a lack of discipline or whatever else.
i'm not abstinent and really never have been, but i admire the discipline and conviction of those who choose to be so.
I think that mostly goes to whether the individual who has set a personal restriction is judgmental or not, rather than to whether the restrictions have been set.
I prefer monogamy for a handful of reasons but I'm happy that Feral is happier when following a different standard, for instance.
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i am real real happy to be monogamous, personally. i guess i can't really easily separate sex from emotional commitment in my mind.
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Every once in a while I am reminded that the UK is one step ahead of the USA in marginalizing the 'common folk.' Also they have political cartoons too:
A lot of pro-abstinence people must feel some kind of intense jealousy deep down inside toward people who have healthy active sex lives. For as much as their philosophy may decry it, it's difficult to ignore a physical necessity, and how dare anyone else enjoy it when they cannot.
I think it's this that causes the "double down" mentality to take root.
If you're doing something that isn't measurably enriching your life, and those who go without your philosophy seem to be having a good time, many times it causes you to freak the fuck out and become some lunatic crusader. It leads you to telling a whole auditorium of 16 year olds that they'll wind up loveless and unwanted if they have sex.
Because how dare they not live up to the arbitrary standards you place on them.
sometimes i wonder if this motivates some people to agitate for monogamy
#unpopularopinionpuffin
I've come to feel as I've gotten older and worldlier that monogamy has a whoooole lotta innate cultural hangups built in that have very little to do with two people loving each other.
Having a couple of friends in successful polyamorous relationships has helped form that viewpoint, as well.
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honestly i'm not all "everybody must be poly"
relationships can take a lot of time and people have jobs and kids and responsibilities, sometimes there just isn't enough energy to go around
sometimes you have other priorities in your life, you don't need a second partner, you wouldn't see the benefit
you're happy with what you have
that's cool
#typinglikepony
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
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That still seems to be a step above America, Henroid.
From what I understand, the welfare benefits laws in the UK are generally much more supportive and reasonable than the US equivalents, and that's where the US equivalents even really exist.
I don't have a firm grasp of whether that's true, though, to be fair.
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A lot of pro-abstinence people must feel some kind of intense jealousy deep down inside toward people who have healthy active sex lives. For as much as their philosophy may decry it, it's difficult to ignore a physical necessity, and how dare anyone else enjoy it when they cannot.
I think it's this that causes the "double down" mentality to take root.
If you're doing something that isn't measurably enriching your life, and those who go without your philosophy seem to be having a good time, many times it causes you to freak the fuck out and become some lunatic crusader. It leads you to telling a whole auditorium of 16 year olds that they'll wind up loveless and unwanted if they have sex.
Because how dare they not live up to the arbitrary standards you place on them.
isn't this kind of true of anyone who sets restrictive standards on themselves?
like, you see the same sort of thing - contempt - from fit people who work out all the time or diet strictly towards those who don't.
you see the same thing from people with any other moral precept that they adhere to - liars or manipulators or the cruel or the amoral.
you see the same thing from people who keep their promises wrt those who do not.
you see it from people of refined tastes who look down on those who have unrefined (by their standards) tastes.
like - take any one thing about yourself that you are proud of. the people who do not have that quality are inferior in some way, whether it's ignorance or a lack of talent or a lack of scruples or a lack of discipline or whatever else.
i'm not abstinent and really never have been, but i admire the discipline and conviction of those who choose to be so.
I think that mostly goes to whether the individual who has set a personal restriction is judgmental or not, rather than to whether the restrictions have been set.
I prefer monogamy for a handful of reasons but I'm happy that Feral is happier when following a different standard, for instance.
right, but you also probably don't feel like you are sacrificing something to a higher principle by being monogamous.
you probably wouldn't have the same live-and-let-live regard for someone who claimed to be monogamous but was actually cheating on their spouse.
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Every once in a while I am reminded that the UK is one step ahead of the USA in marginalizing the 'common folk.' Also they have political cartoons too:
Every once in a while I am reminded that the UK is one step ahead of the USA in marginalizing the 'common folk.' Also they have political cartoons too:
Every once in a while I am reminded that the UK is one step ahead of the USA in marginalizing the 'common folk.' Also they have political cartoons too:
Any politician would want the unemployed to have jobs and some public assistance versus no jobs and lots of public addistance.
I think he is talking about workfare where people have to work for a negative wage to receive public benefits. This means they are either doing mostly useless work or are competing with people who aren't making a negative wage.
I'm personally a little distrustful of poly because many poly folk I've met have had some really bad relationships and breakups (lol anecdotal evidence I know)
which is true of single people as well!
but in general I think most people have difficulty handling the emotional baggage a single relationship entails and basically there's a Venn diagram of "people who think poly is a good idea" and "people who are capable of managing the pitfalls of a poly relationship successfully" and the crossover of those two circles is kinda small
but I don't think there's anything immoral or unethical or specifically wrong about poly, and for some people it works really well, which is great
I just think its more difficult than a monogamous relationship and there are more people who think they can handle poly then there are people who can handle poly.
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I'm personally a little distrustful of poly because many poly folk I've met have had some really bad relationships and breakups (lol anecdotal evidence I know)
which is true of single people as well!
but in general I think most people have difficulty handling the emotional baggage a single relationship entails and basically there's a Venn diagram of "people who think poly is a good idea" and "people who are capable of managing the pitfalls of a poly relationship successfully" and the crossover of those two circles is kinda small
but I don't think there's anything immoral or unethical or specifically wrong about poly, and for some people it works really well, which is great
I just think its more difficult than a monogamous relationship and there are more people who think they can handle poly then there are people who can handle poly.
basically there's a Venn diagram of "people who think dating is a good idea" and "people who are capable of managing the pitfalls of a relationship successfully" and the crossover of those two circles is kinda small
"The man declined to mention whether he collected any rupees following the incident.
The ex-husband was taken to hospital following the altercation, but not before he, in true Zelda fashion, smashed a pot (a flower pot, over the head of Thompson)."
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so...that company that interviewed me for the second time today now wants me to interview a third time, this one with the CEO...
On the one hand, I guess it's good because it means I've been knocking these interviews out of the park, I think. On the other, I just want them to get to the whole offer phase because that is clearly crucial for me. I did provide them with my current compensation and I'm hoping they realize that they would need to be above that for me to jump. I have a feeling they're going to come in low.
I dunno, this whole thing definitely has some risk. I'm at a pretty good place right now although my my job satisfaction has definitely dipped since I got moved to the impersonal cube farm.
also in conversations about this topic i find that there is always someone hanging around in the back waiting to say some way-condescending, smug shit about confidence and maturity and trust to the people who are only into monogamy.
WELL DONT' PROJECT YOUR INSECURITIES ONTO THE WAYS OTHER PEOPLE LOVE
That still seems to be a step above America, Henroid.
From what I understand, the welfare benefits laws in the UK are generally much more supportive and reasonable than the US equivalents, and that's where the US equivalents even really exist.
I don't have a firm grasp of whether that's true, though, to be fair.
The policy referred to in the cartoon was one of requiring people receiving unemployment benefit to work for a participating large company for free or lose their benefits (so not really "for free" as such, but not paid by the company they were working for)
Large companies that would, presumably, otherwise be obliged to employ someone to do that work
It was the most thoroughly bizarre policy that backlashed badly
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It's good. Things have been a little stressful health-wise, but that's clearing up. Been thinking about going to B.C. for the summer to work to pay off my debt and get some private writing time in. And my short film is shaping up; I think I'm the only director who's been consistently content with my production, and based on my test screening, I managed to get the laughs I was aiming for. I'm working on a feature script right now, which has a very slight possibility of being made (I'll know by the end of April) and I'm supposed to be co-writing a webseries, but that's kind of up in the air right now.
How is you?
That's cool, glad to hear about your successes in filming
I'm doing pretty well. Still working the marketing job, making good money, slowly whittling down debt and living with Aaron. We're probably just going to elope this summer or something. Been struggling with massive depression and suicidal thoughts since November and am getting my meds adjusted now so hopefully that helps. Despite that I'm pretty successful and am doing a lot of art in my free time.
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I think that mostly goes to whether the individual who has set a personal restriction is judgmental or not, rather than to whether the restrictions have been set.
I prefer monogamy for a handful of reasons but I'm happy that Feral is happier when following a different standard, for instance.
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Can I be one of them?
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hi5
honestly i'm not all "everybody must be poly"
relationships can take a lot of time and people have jobs and kids and responsibilities, sometimes there just isn't enough energy to go around
sometimes you have other priorities in your life, you don't need a second partner, you wouldn't see the benefit
you're happy with what you have
that's cool
#typinglikepony
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/weird-news/man-stabbed-with-legend-of-zelda-master-sword-in-serious-condition-9167520.html
polyamory can easily have emotional investment
actually I think that's liek the point?
Its being emotionally and romantically involved with more than one pers
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yeah well someone had to put ganon down
From what I understand, the welfare benefits laws in the UK are generally much more supportive and reasonable than the US equivalents, and that's where the US equivalents even really exist.
I don't have a firm grasp of whether that's true, though, to be fair.
right, but you also probably don't feel like you are sacrificing something to a higher principle by being monogamous.
you probably wouldn't have the same live-and-let-live regard for someone who claimed to be monogamous but was actually cheating on their spouse.
It's good. Things have been a little stressful health-wise, but that's clearing up. Been thinking about going to B.C. for the summer to work to pay off my debt and get some private writing time in. And my short film is shaping up; I think I'm the only director who's been consistently content with my production, and based on my test screening, I managed to get the laughs I was aiming for. I'm working on a feature script right now, which has a very slight possibility of being made (I'll know by the end of April) and I'm supposed to be co-writing a webseries, but that's kind of up in the air right now.
How is you?
They guy walked into the sword.
Sometimes evil can't help but smite itself.
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Any politician would want the unemployed to have jobs and some public assistance versus no jobs and lots of public addistance.
And it comes with a free origin infection!
I am not surprised
He was nerfed in the patch that hasn't hit LCS yet -- 4.3 -- I don't know how significant it was though.
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There's an argument that people who work hard shouldn't be living in poverty.
I think he is talking about workfare where people have to work for a negative wage to receive public benefits. This means they are either doing mostly useless work or are competing with people who aren't making a negative wage.
which is true of single people as well!
but in general I think most people have difficulty handling the emotional baggage a single relationship entails and basically there's a Venn diagram of "people who think poly is a good idea" and "people who are capable of managing the pitfalls of a poly relationship successfully" and the crossover of those two circles is kinda small
but I don't think there's anything immoral or unethical or specifically wrong about poly, and for some people it works really well, which is great
I just think its more difficult than a monogamous relationship and there are more people who think they can handle poly then there are people who can handle poly.
I still don't get it. What is so OP about him?
dumb high burst and mobility if he can get to 6 without getting completely wrecked.
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"The man declined to mention whether he collected any rupees following the incident.
The ex-husband was taken to hospital following the altercation, but not before he, in true Zelda fashion, smashed a pot (a flower pot, over the head of Thompson)."
Oh lord
WELL DONT' PROJECT YOUR INSECURITIES ONTO THE WAYS OTHER PEOPLE LOVE
(ala fitness-nuts or ex-smokers)
The policy referred to in the cartoon was one of requiring people receiving unemployment benefit to work for a participating large company for free or lose their benefits (so not really "for free" as such, but not paid by the company they were working for)
Large companies that would, presumably, otherwise be obliged to employ someone to do that work
It was the most thoroughly bizarre policy that backlashed badly
My first phone was a post brick nokia. 30 minutes a month.
That's cool, glad to hear about your successes in filming
I'm doing pretty well. Still working the marketing job, making good money, slowly whittling down debt and living with Aaron. We're probably just going to elope this summer or something. Been struggling with massive depression and suicidal thoughts since November and am getting my meds adjusted now so hopefully that helps. Despite that I'm pretty successful and am doing a lot of art in my free time.
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