I guess the magic:tg butt pix struck me as being intended in this tone of sort of silly and lighthearted ribbing without any sort of ... lecherous? angle that I would knee-jerk worry about in any comparable photo of ladies because I have a total double standard about my underlying assumptions.
why would they give out free body spray with video games that's so stupid and i didn't know how to say "no this stuff is super grossssss"
I was in college when Axe first came out and they mailed every single dude in the dorm a trial can
their whole demographic for fifteen years has been "nineteen year olds in college who are still not entirely clear on hygiene" and obviously that overlaps with video games pretty hard
people would get axe bombed in the dorm. tape down nozzle, throw in room, hold door closed
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I think the reason Axe smells like chemical warfare is because people young enough to buy it do not typically know that scents are meant to be undetectable except at very close range. If it didn't reek, dudes would think it wasn't working.
what if instead of guys it was ladies where you could see their underwear
or a mix of both
would that change anyone's opinion?
if their underwear were visible (ie, they were wearing low-rise jeans)?
I would have an opinion on the intent and effect of the acts, but not whether they violate privacy.
I don't want somebody sexually objectifying women at Magic events because 1) women are sexually objectified far too much as it is and 2) Magic events are already hostile to women.
But I don't care if Magic events are a little more hostile to men with bad hygiene. That is a form of hostility I'm kind of okay with.
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
why would they give out free body spray with video games that's so stupid and i didn't know how to say "no this stuff is super grossssss"
I was in college when Axe first came out and they mailed every single dude in the dorm a trial can
their whole demographic for fifteen years has been "nineteen year olds in college who are still not entirely clear on hygiene" and obviously that overlaps with video games pretty hard
people would get axe bombed in the dorm. tape down nozzle, throw in room, hold door closed
what if instead of guys it was ladies where you could see their underwear
or a mix of both
would that change anyone's opinion?
if their underwear were visible (ie, they were wearing low-rise jeans)?
I would have an opinion on the intent and effect of the acts, but not whether they violate privacy.
I don't want somebody sexually objectifying women at Magic events because 1) women are sexually objectified far too much as it is and 2) Magic events are already hostile to women.
But I don't care if Magic events are a little more hostile to men with bad hygiene. That is a form of hostility I'm kind of okay with.
Ironically, we're okay with publicly posted pictures of ugly dude's buttcracks because these are things we want to see less of at Magic events, while attractive ladies buttcracks are things we don't want to scare away.
what if instead of guys it was ladies where you could see their underwear
or a mix of both
would that change anyone's opinion?
if their underwear were visible (ie, they were wearing low-rise jeans)?
I would have an opinion on the intent and effect of the acts, but not whether they violate privacy.
I don't want somebody sexually objectifying women at Magic events because 1) women are sexually objectified far too much as it is and 2) Magic events are already hostile to women.
But I don't care if Magic events are a little more hostile to men with bad hygiene. That is a form of hostility I'm kind of okay with.
Ironically, we're okay with publicly posted pictures of ugly dude's buttcracks because these are things we want to see less of at Magic events, while attractive ladies buttcracks are things we don't want to scare away.
what little I've seen of magic events I feel like scaring ladies away from them is really for the ladies' benefit anyway
like I'm not trying to fight about it I'm just curious about exploring our societally ingrained "rules" here
well, there's the rule-oriented question - does it violate a rule to take somebody's photo at an event that is open to the public and then post that photo to the Internet? (No, it obviously doesn't.)
then there's the consequentialist question - what is the effect of this action? Either way (boy butts or girls' cleavage) the effect is to discourage something... but what are we discouraging?
In the former example, the effect is to discourage boys from letting their pants sag. In the second example, the likely effect is to discourage women from attending Magic events at all. I'm okay with the first effect, not with the second effect
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
I think the reason Axe smells like chemical warfare is because people young enough to buy it do not typically know that scents are meant to be undetectable except at very close range. If it didn't reek, dudes would think it wasn't working.
idk
for me axe came out right around the time puberty was getting into swing. every kid had a can in their gym locker and it was a godsend. you could just toss your can to that particularly sweaty kid who hadn't quite figured out that eventually the body requires deodorant.
it was strong and wearing it beyond 16 is a sign that something has gone terribly wrong but in that 12-15 time period i'm sure it kept some serious funk at bay.
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Probably the meanest thing I ever did to someone personally was the time in grade 9 phys ed when I sprayed another kid with Axe
It was a kid I semi-regularly hung out with in that class who was about as nerdy as I was but a bit more weedy
I accidentally got some in his eye and he punched me, but it was a really weak punch and that made me feel even worse about it
what if instead of guys it was ladies where you could see their underwear
or a mix of both
would that change anyone's opinion?
if their underwear were visible (ie, they were wearing low-rise jeans)?
I would have an opinion on the intent and effect of the acts, but not whether they violate privacy.
I don't want somebody sexually objectifying women at Magic events because 1) women are sexually objectified far too much as it is and 2) Magic events are already hostile to women.
But I don't care if Magic events are a little more hostile to men with bad hygiene. That is a form of hostility I'm kind of okay with.
Ironically, we're okay with publicly posted pictures of ugly dude's buttcracks because these are things we want to see less of at Magic events, while attractive ladies buttcracks are things we don't want to scare away.
what little I've seen of magic events I feel like scaring ladies away from them is really for the ladies' benefit anyway
That's just the thing, there's plenty of perfectly acceptable people who play MTG.
We just have to root out the undesirables.
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why would they give out free body spray with video games that's so stupid and i didn't know how to say "no this stuff is super grossssss"
I was in college when Axe first came out and they mailed every single dude in the dorm a trial can
their whole demographic for fifteen years has been "nineteen year olds in college who are still not entirely clear on hygiene" and obviously that overlaps with video games pretty hard
people would get axe bombed in the dorm. tape down nozzle, throw in room, hold door closed
oh sweet lord that would be horrible
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why would they give out free body spray with video games that's so stupid and i didn't know how to say "no this stuff is super grossssss"
I was in college when Axe first came out and they mailed every single dude in the dorm a trial can
their whole demographic for fifteen years has been "nineteen year olds in college who are still not entirely clear on hygiene" and obviously that overlaps with video games pretty hard
It was weird how quickly Axe went from something everyone laughed at, even among my ultra douche bag friends (circa 2002, the originating epoch of the modern D-Baggitus Neanderthalensis), to something commonly found in bathrooms/bedroom floors/beneath car seats.
why would they give out free body spray with video games that's so stupid and i didn't know how to say "no this stuff is super grossssss"
I was in college when Axe first came out and they mailed every single dude in the dorm a trial can
their whole demographic for fifteen years has been "nineteen year olds in college who are still not entirely clear on hygiene" and obviously that overlaps with video games pretty hard
It was weird how quickly Axe went from something everyone laughed at, even among my ultra douche bag friends (circa 2002, the originating epoch of the modern D-Baggitus Neanderthalensis), to something commonly found in bathrooms/bedroom floors/beneath car seats.
That's the power of marketing to make hygiene products "acceptably masculine".
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what if instead of guys it was ladies where you could see their underwear
or a mix of both
would that change anyone's opinion?
if their underwear were visible (ie, they were wearing low-rise jeans)?
I would have an opinion on the intent and effect of the acts, but not whether they violate privacy.
I don't want somebody sexually objectifying women at Magic events because 1) women are sexually objectified far too much as it is and 2) Magic events are already hostile to women.
But I don't care if Magic events are a little more hostile to men with bad hygiene. That is a form of hostility I'm kind of okay with.
Ironically, we're okay with publicly posted pictures of ugly dude's buttcracks because these are things we want to see less of at Magic events, while attractive ladies buttcracks are things we don't want to scare away.
what little I've seen of magic events I feel like scaring ladies away from them is really for the ladies' benefit anyway
That's just the thing, there's plenty of perfectly acceptable people who play MTG.
We just have to root out the undesirables.
Lots of cool people play street fighter, too
But how many of them are at Evo, like, proportionally?
like I'm not trying to fight about it I'm just curious about exploring our societally ingrained "rules" here
well, there's the rule-oriented question - does it violate a rule to take somebody's photo at an event that is open to the public and then post that photo to the Internet? (No, it obviously doesn't.)
then there's the consequentialist question - what is the effect of this action? Either way (boy butts or girls' cleavage) the effect is to discourage something... but what are we discouraging?
In the former example, the effect is to discourage boys from letting their pants sag. In the second example, the likely effect is to discourage women from attending Magic events at all. I'm okay with the first effect, not with the second effect
I would add that I am reasonably certain that almost nobody in those pictures wanted their ass to hang out. Their unique wonderfulness is not beinig criticized so much as their inattention.
why would they give out free body spray with video games that's so stupid and i didn't know how to say "no this stuff is super grossssss"
I was in college when Axe first came out and they mailed every single dude in the dorm a trial can
their whole demographic for fifteen years has been "nineteen year olds in college who are still not entirely clear on hygiene" and obviously that overlaps with video games pretty hard
people would get axe bombed in the dorm. tape down nozzle, throw in room, hold door closed
oh sweet lord that would be horrible
So they did the trial cans at my school too and it was an entire 3 days of axe warfare. The student mail area smelled for months. So many bombs and drive by axe-ings and door knobs sprayed down with it.
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why would they give out free body spray with video games that's so stupid and i didn't know how to say "no this stuff is super grossssss"
I was in college when Axe first came out and they mailed every single dude in the dorm a trial can
their whole demographic for fifteen years has been "nineteen year olds in college who are still not entirely clear on hygiene" and obviously that overlaps with video games pretty hard
It was weird how quickly Axe went from something everyone laughed at, even among my ultra douche bag friends (circa 2002, the originating epoch of the modern D-Baggitus Neanderthalensis), to something commonly found in bathrooms/bedroom floors/beneath car seats.
That's the power of marketing to make hygiene products "acceptably masculine".
It was that the early marketing was so stupid. Like N-Gage, dude on a skateboard in front of a muscle car peeling out dumb. Maybe dumber.
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hmm.
the cashier made a joke about how it's combating stereotypes about smelly nerds
and i said no, it's just
it's just making them a different smelly
yes. I think that's the difference. Making fun of Magic playing neckbeards is fine. filming fine accidentally crack is pervy.
I was saying if the scenario was perfectly matched but the genders swapped, nothing changes for me.
I could have avoided using any descriptors, but what would be the fun in that?
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
people would get axe bombed in the dorm. tape down nozzle, throw in room, hold door closed
now i am like vacantly stares at netflix queue frozen in indecision instead of sleeping like a smart.
i've smelled this on idiots before
if their underwear were visible (ie, they were wearing low-rise jeans)?
I would have an opinion on the intent and effect of the acts, but not whether they violate privacy.
I don't want somebody sexually objectifying women at Magic events because 1) women are sexually objectified far too much as it is and 2) Magic events are already hostile to women.
But I don't care if Magic events are a little more hostile to men with bad hygiene. That is a form of hostility I'm kind of okay with.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
ok but syndalis what if it's the same hypothetical but totally different WHAT THEN
On the plus side, attractive tribal women will invite you to their sex parties after getting caught in their jungle traps.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
that is CHEMICAL WARFARE
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Ironically, we're okay with publicly posted pictures of ugly dude's buttcracks because these are things we want to see less of at Magic events, while attractive ladies buttcracks are things we don't want to scare away.
"jungle traps"
what little I've seen of magic events I feel like scaring ladies away from them is really for the ladies' benefit anyway
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well, there's the rule-oriented question - does it violate a rule to take somebody's photo at an event that is open to the public and then post that photo to the Internet? (No, it obviously doesn't.)
then there's the consequentialist question - what is the effect of this action? Either way (boy butts or girls' cleavage) the effect is to discourage something... but what are we discouraging?
In the former example, the effect is to discourage boys from letting their pants sag. In the second example, the likely effect is to discourage women from attending Magic events at all. I'm okay with the first effect, not with the second effect
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
idk
for me axe came out right around the time puberty was getting into swing. every kid had a can in their gym locker and it was a godsend. you could just toss your can to that particularly sweaty kid who hadn't quite figured out that eventually the body requires deodorant.
it was strong and wearing it beyond 16 is a sign that something has gone terribly wrong but in that 12-15 time period i'm sure it kept some serious funk at bay.
It was a kid I semi-regularly hung out with in that class who was about as nerdy as I was but a bit more weedy
I accidentally got some in his eye and he punched me, but it was a really weak punch and that made me feel even worse about it
That's just the thing, there's plenty of perfectly acceptable people who play MTG.
We just have to root out the undesirables.
In this case, ugly people who are not properly covering their buttcracks.
This, I think, makes them less innocent.
As an ugly person,
oh sweet lord that would be horrible
It was weird how quickly Axe went from something everyone laughed at, even among my ultra douche bag friends (circa 2002, the originating epoch of the modern D-Baggitus Neanderthalensis), to something commonly found in bathrooms/bedroom floors/beneath car seats.
That's the power of marketing to make hygiene products "acceptably masculine".
Lots of cool people play street fighter, too
But how many of them are at Evo, like, proportionally?
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I would add that I am reasonably certain that almost nobody in those pictures wanted their ass to hang out. Their unique wonderfulness is not beinig criticized so much as their inattention.
I was coming to post how good it is to close ones eyes to the Star Trek: TNG opening theme. I hit my zen zone and everything was bliss.
Do you really have to ask?
no one wants to answer philosophical questions asked by a guy who smells like Axe, okay
So they did the trial cans at my school too and it was an entire 3 days of axe warfare. The student mail area smelled for months. So many bombs and drive by axe-ings and door knobs sprayed down with it.
yeah I feel this is well documented
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It was that the early marketing was so stupid. Like N-Gage, dude on a skateboard in front of a muscle car peeling out dumb. Maybe dumber.
i am become Seth, harasser of girls
Or I have too much free time.
Damnit. It's probably the second one.