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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    Project Cars was Crowdfunded and had pretty awesome tiers.

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    Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    :wink
    Nova_C wrote: »
    Man, iRacing is ridiculous.

    You have to pay a subscription, and then buy cars and tracks. And the cars are all track day or better, no touring cars. GT cars are my favourite class to race. :(

    It costs something like $100 a year, and then I was told that to get a good spread of cars and tracks you have to spend another $100. That's fucking ridiculous.

    The thing you need to realize about iRacing is that it is aimed at a market where 200 dollars is a completely inconsequential purchase.

    The people who play iRacing have custom racing chairs, pedals, force feedback 100% recreation wheels from real cars, real gearbox, multiple monitors / HDTVs for wider FOV... pretty sure Oculus has happened also at this point.

    iRacing is for extreme hobby enthusiasts.

    Yup, what you want Nova is Project Cars.

    Its the next level down.

    Yeah, I'll be getting it. I have Assetto Corsa already, although I'm waiting for my wheel to really dig into it.

    I just had iRacing recommended to me as the best online racing experience, but I'm starting to think I'm not at that level.

    I do want the racing chair, though, so I can permanently mount the wheel. It's $400 or $500 though. :/

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    Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    i am in best mood

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    I am very tired

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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    @elldren,
    21 May 1626, Legnano and Bostugrande Busto Arsizio, about 20 miles northwest of Milan

    Fendrich Heironymous Sebastian Schutze and Lieutenant Felix Steter are on the way back to Busto Arsizio from the trial we read about earlier.

    They're riding separately (this is deliberate), each with an entourage, also mounted. (A number of people show up briefly in the witness statements: "The Fendrich's courier;" "the Lieutenant's bodyguard," etc.) They're also escorted by at least two musketeers--a Gefreyter and a common musketeer are mentioned, but if there are more musketeers around, they are not listed as witnesses. (Look how soldiers move through a location--if they're travelling back from Legnano, that's about 4 miles; if they're coming from Gallarate (both these cities are mentioned in these documents) that's 5 miles. Even for so brief a time away from the protective bubble of large amounts of armed men, they go escorted.)

    And they manage to get in a fight again.

    According to Steter and his witness:

    Steter told his bodyguard “Look, there is the Fendrich; go gently then, since we don't know what he'll do.” They rode between the Fendrich and one member of his entourage, the steward Christoff von Hubrig or Hubrich. Schutze rode forward toward Steter, then broke into a full run and rode around him. Finally he grabbed onto Steter's saddle, said “You dog, I want to give this to you” (Loose translation of “Du hundt ich wolte dirs bald machen”), and laid his other hand on his pistol.

    Steter responded: “Will you attack me on the street, then? I'll ride back and file suit against you in the regiment for a highway robber and for a rogue.”

    Schutze wouldn't let him ride on, but at last Steter separated himself with violence. Schutze rode to Busto Arsizio to file suit with the Regimentsschultheiss, while Steter made for His Grace The Lord Oberst Lieutenant to file his own suit.

    According to Schutze and his witnesses:

    Schutze was riding back from the trial with his entourage, making sure to maintain a distance between himself and Steter, when he had to stop to take a piss. This lost him a little bit of distance, and then he rode into some bushes and knocked his hat off. Hubrig got it for him again, but this lost even more distance, so Schutze turned off the main road onto the footpath and made for Busto Arsizio at a full gallop with the intention to “ride away from the Lieutenant's gaze.” He seems to be deliberately avoiding conflict.

    Nevertheless, the Lieutenant rode up to them and began to insult him, “many times and openly, as a rogue and highway robber.”

    According to one of the witnesses, Schutze responded: “Holla, Lieutenant, is your Fendrich a rogue,” stressing their difference of rank. Steter said “Yes. Ride away now--how do we want to bear this out?” which seems like a threat.

    More than one of the witnesses testified that as soon as both of them realized that this was going to end in lawsuits, Steter turned to them and asked them if they would “tell the correct truth about what happened” in the upcoming trial. One of them, Gefreyter of Musketeers David Schmidt, responded “I will say what the truth was, if I'm asked, because it is due to me as an honorable soldier.” Steter, taking the hint, cursed the sacraments to Schmidt's face and said that he wanted to beat him his whole life long.

    On his way into the courtyard to file suit, Steter began to curse and insult von Hubrig, who promptly filed a separate suit against him.

    One very interesting thing about Schutze's complaint to his authorities is that in the course of listing the various injustices against him he mentions that while the earlier trial was going on his flag was taken away from him. It seems like he's not allowed to keep it in his quarters (which he shares, incidentally, with “the Herr Hauptmann, the Regimental Provost, and other Fendriches”--I wonder how big this space was and how many people, soldiers plus civilians, were stuffed into it) or possibly even touch it, as long as he's under suspicion.

    This “bums me out exceedingly,” he says: “mir zu höchsten despert.”

    And indeed, the flag remains taken from him during this trial as well, which is why Schutze wrote a letter to the Obrist Lieutenant informing him of the fact that people whose honor has been questioned can't bear flags and asking to have it restored to him. He begged the Obrist Lieutenant to admit that he had no idea this would happen and allow the flag to be returned to him. So it may be possible that some of that highly emotional flag thing I wrote about earlier is specific to Fendriches. Maybe there's an entire flag-bearer subculture that other people are aware of only in passing.

    Discharge, after the trial but before the verdict:

    Lieutenant Steter shall betake himself to his quarters, exercising his command as before. Until the judgment has been given, he shall give no temptation of enmity to the Fendrich.

    Fendrich Hieronymus Bastian Schutze shall betake himself once more to that place where up until now he has been contained (he had been confined to quarters during the earlier trial) and until the judgment has been publicized he will remain there, and in no way give the Lieutenant cause to fight.

    (He didn't do this, by the way, which is why the Oberst Lieutenant denied his request about the flag.)

    Verdicts, 6 June 1626:

    The Lieutenant shall openly and publicly apologize to the Fendrich. He shall also retract what he said to Hubrig.

    In October, Fendrich Schutze also received a “Gerichtlicher Schein,” which stated that Steter attacked him in his honorable name and that Schutze could not bear this. It also stated that Steter didn't really mean it, and that the Regimentsschultheiss restores Schutze's honorable name to him, which this public legal ticket should also make plain. Signed and sealed 8 Oct 1626.

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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    Heroes of the Storm in pre-alpha was more stable and had shorter matchmaking queues than LoL 6 years after it was released.

    Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
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    Kid PresentableKid Presentable Registered User regular
    did any of you nerds pick up extra LoL skins this year or were they not making it rain like last year

    Riot didn't even have a booth!

    (It was great)

    It's good because LoL is gaming cancer

    The community is toxic as fuck and the game is poorly coded. They've had like 5 years and 10 billion dollars to make it good and they have not. It's like if minecraft caused people to emit streams of racial slurs.

    Heroes of the Storm 4 lyfe

    I finally started playing ranked games in HotS this weekend, and I've gone 1-6, but nobody has cursed at anyone in any of those losses. It's pretty weird! My last loss last night ended with all of us chatting while dead and watching our core go down, lamenting that it was a well played game with no weak links on the team, and things just didn't go our way.

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    Ah, that Magic: Duels: Origins: Colons is their new format for Duels. Dunno what to think about that.

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    STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    Ah, that Magic: Duels: Origins: Colons is their new format for Duels. Dunno what to think about that.

    it's dumb.

    I am just sticking with paper magic.

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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    I should try ranked HoTS.

    Been to lazy to.

    Some of the normal queue seems to contain the normal horrible moba community.

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    My parents' phoneline is beseiged by calls from "Computer Maintenance" wanting to talk about their computer.

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    Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    Although I guess where iRacing would be good is the higher cost may limit the number of people who play to grief.

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    Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    Heroes of the Storm in pre-alpha was more stable and had shorter matchmaking queues than LoL 6 years after it was released.

    lol look at this nerd going from 'all mobas suck' to loving one moba and hating the others

    dont you see?

    don't you see?

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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    did any of you nerds pick up extra LoL skins this year or were they not making it rain like last year

    Riot didn't even have a booth!

    (It was great)

    It's good because LoL is gaming cancer

    The community is toxic as fuck and the game is poorly coded. They've had like 5 years and 10 billion dollars to make it good and they have not. It's like if minecraft caused people to emit streams of racial slurs.

    Heroes of the Storm 4 lyfe

    I finally started playing ranked games in HotS this weekend, and I've gone 1-6, but nobody has cursed at anyone in any of those losses. It's pretty weird! My last loss last night ended with all of us chatting while dead and watching our core go down, lamenting that it was a well played game with no weak links on the team, and things just didn't go our way.

    I've had a few people on my team get mad (usually a terminal case of bad'n'mad) but never anything remotely as instantly offensive and caustic as every single lol game I ever played.

    Usually the random people on my teams are very nice and want to discuss which skills are best if anything. Also all-chat not even being an option from day 1 is amazing.

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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    Heroes of the Storm in pre-alpha was more stable and had shorter matchmaking queues than LoL 6 years after it was released.

    lol look at this nerd going from 'all mobas suck' to loving one moba and hating the others

    dont you see?

    don't you see?

    All someone had to do was make one that wasn't completely terrible in every way.

    Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
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    HerrCronHerrCron It that wickedly supports taxation Registered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    Ah, that Magic: Duels: Origins: Colons is their new format for Duels. Dunno what to think about that.

    The series has been leaning more and more towards micro transactions over time, I guess they just decided to go whole hog with it.

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    syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    I mean, I would spend somewhere in the neighborhood of 25-50 bucks for an hour of time in an Oculus Rift iRacing booth with the aforementioned real feeling steering wheel, paddle shifters, pedals, vibration-mapped seating and 7.1 surround sound.

    The future of things like the rift that need so much gear to create true presence may mean the revival of arcades of a sort, where it is financially viable to set up 20 networked racing booths, 16-20 networked simulation cockpits, and you pay money to dogfight with your friends in a completely realistic environment.

    SW-4158-3990-6116
    Let's play Mario Kart or something...
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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    maybe some competition will prod valve into pouring resources back into dota2

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    Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    Heroes of the Storm in pre-alpha was more stable and had shorter matchmaking queues than LoL 6 years after it was released.

    lol look at this nerd going from 'all mobas suck' to loving one moba and hating the others

    dont you see?

    don't you see?

    All someone had to do was make one that wasn't completely terrible in every way.

    soon you'll be wearing the official heroes of the storm TM merch to cons, yelling at kids in teemo hats....

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    Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    Heroes of the Storm in pre-alpha was more stable and had shorter matchmaking queues than LoL 6 years after it was released.

    lol look at this nerd going from 'all mobas suck' to loving one moba and hating the others

    dont you see?

    don't you see?

    All someone had to do was make one that wasn't completely terrible in every way.

    But it's a MOBA.

    You may as well ask someone to fly you to the moon!

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    815165815165 Registered User regular
    is heroes of the storm enough of a not-moba to be fun?

    ie: shorter matches, variety of stuff to do, less encouragement to be an utter dickhead

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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    815165 wrote: »
    is heroes of the storm enough of a not-moba to be fun?

    ie: shorter matches, variety of stuff to do, less encouragement to be an utter dickhead

    Encouragement to be a dickhead is tied to the inherent multiplayer focus of the genre.

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    P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    instead of playing mobas you should play dfo fyi hth

    Shameful pursuits and utterly stupid opinions
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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    edited March 2015
    815165 wrote: »
    is heroes of the storm enough of a not-moba to be fun?

    ie: shorter matches, variety of stuff to do, less encouragement to be an utter dickhead

    Matches are 18-25 minutes long. There are 6 maps currently in rotation, each one with different little minigames going on the whole time that encourage very different strategies. No last hitting, shared team experience, and nowhere near as high of a penalty for dying a lot in team fights make it substantially less toxic. No items to buy makes it way more approachable. There's a very limited level-up perk system in which there are few wrong choices. You don't have to read a wiki or play a thousand matches to find a viable build.

    Donkey Kong on
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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    HerrCron wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    Ah, that Magic: Duels: Origins: Colons is their new format for Duels. Dunno what to think about that.

    The series has been leaning more and more towards micro transactions over time, I guess they just decided to go whole hog with it.

    They actually got rid of them in Duels 2015. It launched with "premium" packs for money, but later made all those cards free to unlock and gave people that paid for them the expansion for free.

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    Sir LandsharkSir Landshark resting shark face Registered User regular
    815165 wrote: »
    is heroes of the storm enough of a not-moba to be fun?

    ie: shorter matches, variety of stuff to do, less encouragement to be an utter dickhead

    Matches are 18-25 minutes long. There are 6 maps currently in rotation, each one with different little minigames going on the whole time that encourage very different strategies. No last hitting, shared team experience, and nowhere near as high of a penalty for dying a lot in team fights make it substantially less toxic. No items to buy makes it way more approachable. There's a very limited level-up perk system in which there are few wrong choices. You don't have to read a wiki or play a thousand matches to find a viable build.

    is it still beta?

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    GooeyGooey (\/)┌¶─¶┐(\/) pinch pinchRegistered User regular
    mobas still suk play tanks

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    Ah, that Magic: Duels: Origins: Colons is their new format for Duels. Dunno what to think about that.

    it's dumb.

    I am just sticking with paper magic.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlLN2yk24P8&list=PLFn74nQQfPkWrnCADvXoMn1WPL13l-P8q

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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    I mean, I would spend somewhere in the neighborhood of 25-50 bucks for an hour of time in an Oculus Rift iRacing booth with the aforementioned real feeling steering wheel, paddle shifters, pedals, vibration-mapped seating and 7.1 surround sound.

    The future of things like the rift that need so much gear to create true presence may mean the revival of arcades of a sort, where it is financially viable to set up 20 networked racing booths, 16-20 networked simulation cockpits, and you pay money to dogfight with your friends in a completely realistic environment.

    If it wasn't for MWO being the confused shit show I would be excited for Mechwarrior pods doing this.

    I mean MWO is fun at times. And the mechs are cool. But I am pretty sure the company running it have 0 idea what to do with the base game they have made.

    The roll out of community warfare made that painfully obvious.

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    Sir LandsharkSir Landshark resting shark face Registered User regular
    my lappy can barely handle LoL at 5-10 fps on low settings tho

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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    edited March 2015
    The only problem with HOTS is probably the low amount of gold awarded for matches and how expensive everything is in the store. It's super exploitive. Up to $15 for some characters and skins.

    Edit: hahaha nevermind I have never even looked in the lol store. Thirty dollars.

    Donkey Kong on
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    TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    I watched my roommate play a game of LoL over the weekend. I get the appeal, I think - it seemed very tense at times.

    He also said that one of his teammates was playing a character that cost him $30 for just the skin, which is fucking ludicrous.

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    y2jake215y2jake215 certified Flat Birther theorist the Last Good Boy onlineRegistered User regular
    Gooey wrote: »
    mobas still suk play tanks

    mobas still suk play fifa

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    maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
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    cptruggedcptrugged I think it has something to do with free will. Registered User regular
    815165 wrote: »
    is heroes of the storm enough of a not-moba to be fun?

    ie: shorter matches, variety of stuff to do, less encouragement to be an utter dickhead

    It's still very much a MOBA. It just focuses more on team fighting and map objectives than the others I've played. The different maps give you a good variety of goals.

    The biggest thing that was weird to me is the fact that healing is so damn strong in the game. Like team fights end up being these long brawls.

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    815165815165 Registered User regular
    The only problem with HOTS is probably the low amount of gold awarded for matches and how expensive everything is in the store. It's super exploitive. Up to $15 for some characters and skins.

    do they have a rotation of free dudes or are some dudes always behind the pay wall?

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    Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    y2jake215 wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    mobas still suk play tanks

    mobas still suk play fifa

    mobas still suk play outside for once, jeez, it's a lovely day and all you can do is stay glued to that screen, when I was your age I was out kayaking and sailing and building rafts

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
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    cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    Gooey wrote: »
    mobas still suk play tanks
    tanks suck play space ninja

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    The only problem with HOTS is probably the low amount of gold awarded for matches and how expensive everything is in the store. It's super exploitive. Up to $15 for some characters and skins.

    Edit: hahaha nevermind I have never even looked in the lol store. Thirty dollars.

    It's very frontloaded. You get an average of 355 gold for your daily quest and I think someone mathed together 23 days to get 10k gold for a new hero when you add the extra gold from just playing games.

    So do your three games for the daily quest and that's the frontloaded gold. Not very much gold gained after that.

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    spacekungfumanspacekungfuman Poor and minority-filled Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Heroes of the Storm in pre-alpha was more stable and had shorter matchmaking queues than LoL 6 years after it was released.

    If it ain't broke
    enough to make you money
    , don't fix it?

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