we have a very large water reservoir that is much larger than it needs to be
it was dammed up before there was any electricity export and import to speak of, save for some very modest stuff with sweden
it's much too large to be filled up by the rainfall it gets, the idea was to have it as an equalizer: pump water back up into it when power was especially cheap, use that for prolonged dried periods to keep electricity from getting too expensive if that happens
but now we have the rest of europe for that use
not that solar power isn't kinda dumb here, we do have an easy fix for one of the biggest issues with solar power: that it only produces during the day
if all your power came from solar power, you would just literally not have any power at night. And storing energy is difficult.
Batteries are terrible. They're expensive and have a very limited life.
Compare it to a coal plant, where the energy storing is just putting the coal in a pile and not burning it right now. Or with petroleum where the energy storing is just not taking it out.
or with hydroelectric where you store energy by just not draining your lakes.
I wonder if it would be at all a workable idea to have a reservoir filled by running hydroelectric plants in reverse during the way, back down during the night. I've never heard of such super fast frequency switching but I wonder if it could work.
This idea is very viable and there are case studies for doing it with windfarms, who peak at the wrong time for daily energy use.
I know both Belgium and the Netherlands have seriously considered it.
How dumb are farmers? I can get all the wind I need just by going outside. Why would anyone buy the wind they grow?
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We just need the Rock to rock bottom all the science nerds that don't do science well enough. Then the rest will be super productive because they will be scared that he will say they eat strudel or that he will ask them what their name is.
I keep reading "rock bottom" as being some Rock-specific form of power bottoming or something and I'm
lol for real though how stupid is california water is the most plentiful thing on earth just go out there and get some instead of talking about kale salads and hot yoga or w/e it is that californians do
I heard they don't even have shoes in California. They just wear sandals.
lol what
maybe if you had shoes instead of sandals you could get jobs and then just be able to buy water instead of waiting for it to fall out of the sky
They spend all their time outdoors because they need to appease the sky gods in the hopes that they will grant them water. But they also don't believe in gods, so they get no water. Get rekt, hippie atheists!
The public is so overwhelmingly anti science and thinks nasa takes up like 20% of the countries budget in polls. Lets convince 1 guy in charge of a grant that something obscure is necessary to save humanity, instead of a bunch of mouth breathers who are going to donate to anti-vaxxer and fountain of youth quacks.
I don't have much more faith in what most nerds would fund, either
a lot of important science is stunningly boring unremarkable stuff that ends up finding out "well that didn't work"
Actually, you just gave me a good idea.
We should totally do a global warming kickstarter.
We should call it the "So We Don't Fucking Die" kickstarter.
It only has one reward level: You Get To Live: Donate at least $5 and if we hit our target goal, you get to live.
The stretch goal will be "Your Kids Get To Live Too."
yeah but life is butts what are the actual rewards? Do I get like, a tshirt?
You get to LIVE, motherfucker.
Though I guess we could just offshore t-shirt production to Malaysia...
We just need the Rock to rock bottom all the science nerds that don't do science well enough. Then the rest will be super productive because they will be scared that he will say they eat strudel or that he will ask them what their name is.
I keep reading "rock bottom" as being some Rock-specific form of power bottoming or something and I'm
fairly confident
that's not what it is.
if you aren't into that you definitely don't want to hear about the people's elbow
The public is so overwhelmingly anti science and thinks nasa takes up like 20% of the countries budget in polls. Lets convince 1 guy in charge of a grant that something obscure is necessary to save humanity, instead of a bunch of mouth breathers who are going to donate to anti-vaxxer and fountain of youth quacks.
I don't have much more faith in what most nerds would fund, either
a lot of important science is stunningly boring unremarkable stuff that ends up finding out "well that didn't work"
Actually, you just gave me a good idea.
We should totally do a global warming kickstarter.
We should call it the "So We Don't Fucking Die" kickstarter.
It only has one reward level: You Get To Live: Donate at least $5 and if we hit our target goal, you get to live.
The stretch goal will be "Your Kids Get To Live Too."
yeah but life is butts what are the actual rewards? Do I get like, a tshirt?
You get to LIVE, motherfucker.
Though I guess we could just offshore t-shirt production to Malaysia...
I am living now and you don't have any of my money.
Now throw in some kind of video newsletter and a tshirt and we're talking.
We should make something like a Patreon but for science, where the general public can directly fund research projects as an alternative to the normal grant process.
The issue is that the public has tastes and lifestyle expectations and that those are shaped by corporate interests motivated by profit and not sustainability. Obviously you can't just retroactively criminalize these crimes against humanity and pollution profiteering, but maybe - and bear with me - maybe a modest start would be to choose one of those individuals at random every so often and have him dragged out in the street and shot?
This gives the impression that they know what they're doing is wrong, which isn't really always a given. I feel like most of the people in those positions just legitimately believe that's the way the world works. What we need to do is make the world stop working that way.
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lol for real though how stupid is california water is the most plentiful thing on earth just go out there and get some instead of talking about kale salads and hot yoga or w/e it is that californians do
I heard they don't even have shoes in California. They just wear sandals.
lol what
maybe if you had shoes instead of sandals you could get jobs and then just be able to buy water instead of waiting for it to fall out of the sky
They spend all their time outdoors because they need to appease the sky gods in the hopes that they will grant them water. But they also don't believe in gods, so they get no water. Get rekt, hippie atheists!
wahh wahh we dont have any water
lol idiots
We should just get a big knife and cut them off from the back of the country and send them out to see. Then they'll have all the water they want!
The issue is that the public has tastes and lifestyle expectations and that those are shaped by corporate interests motivated by profit and not sustainability. Obviously you can't just retroactively criminalize these crimes against humanity and pollution profiteering, but maybe - and bear with me - maybe a modest start would be to choose one of those individuals at random every so often and have him dragged out in the street and shot?
what if we instead of trying to rely on consumers or corporations, just bloody regulate things
tax the bad stuff more and people will buy less of them, no relying on changing whims needed
The public is so overwhelmingly anti science and thinks nasa takes up like 20% of the countries budget in polls. Lets convince 1 guy in charge of a grant that something obscure is necessary to save humanity, instead of a bunch of mouth breathers who are going to donate to anti-vaxxer and fountain of youth quacks.
I don't have much more faith in what most nerds would fund, either
a lot of important science is stunningly boring unremarkable stuff that ends up finding out "well that didn't work"
Actually, you just gave me a good idea.
We should totally do a global warming kickstarter.
We should call it the "So We Don't Fucking Die" kickstarter.
It only has one reward level: You Get To Live: Donate at least $5 and if we hit our target goal, you get to live.
The stretch goal will be "Your Kids Get To Live Too."
yeah but life is butts what are the actual rewards? Do I get like, a tshirt?
You get to LIVE, motherfucker.
Though I guess we could just offshore t-shirt production to Malaysia...
I am living now and you don't have any of my money.
Now throw in some kind of video newsletter and a tshirt and we're talking.
So far I am enjoying Fallout 3 more than I enjoyed Fallout: New Vegas, which may or may not be a controversial opinion?
I am only a few hours into 3, however, and I very likely could have a chip on my shoulder about New Vegas because I've started so many playthroughs that the first 2-4 hours is such a chore now.
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The issue is that the public has tastes and lifestyle expectations and that those are shaped by corporate interests motivated by profit and not sustainability. Obviously you can't just retroactively criminalize these crimes against humanity and pollution profiteering, but maybe - and bear with me - maybe a modest start would be to choose one of those individuals at random every so often and have him dragged out in the street and shot?
Tim's Modest Proposal
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The public is so overwhelmingly anti science and thinks nasa takes up like 20% of the countries budget in polls. Lets convince 1 guy in charge of a grant that something obscure is necessary to save humanity, instead of a bunch of mouth breathers who are going to donate to anti-vaxxer and fountain of youth quacks.
I don't have much more faith in what most nerds would fund, either
a lot of important science is stunningly boring unremarkable stuff that ends up finding out "well that didn't work"
Actually, you just gave me a good idea.
We should totally do a global warming kickstarter.
We should call it the "So We Don't Fucking Die" kickstarter.
It only has one reward level: You Get To Live: Donate at least $5 and if we hit our target goal, you get to live.
The stretch goal will be "Your Kids Get To Live Too."
We should make something like a Patreon but for science, where the general public can directly fund research projects as an alternative to the normal grant process.
The public is so overwhelmingly anti science and thinks nasa takes up like 20% of the countries budget in polls. Lets convince 1 guy in charge of a grant that something obscure is necessary to save humanity, instead of a bunch of mouth breathers who are going to donate to anti-vaxxer and fountain of youth quacks.
I don't have much more faith in what most nerds would fund, either
a lot of important science is stunningly boring unremarkable stuff that ends up finding out "well that didn't work"
Actually, you just gave me a good idea.
We should totally do a global warming kickstarter.
We should call it the "So We Don't Fucking Die" kickstarter.
It only has one reward level: You Get To Live: Donate at least $5 and if we hit our target goal, you get to live.
The stretch goal will be "Your Kids Get To Live Too."
yeah but life is butts what are the actual rewards? Do I get like, a tshirt?
You get to LIVE, motherfucker.
Though I guess we could just offshore t-shirt production to Malaysia...
I am living now and you don't have any of my money.
Now throw in some kind of video newsletter and a tshirt and we're talking.
I will offer dick pics. You can look at my dick.
You have to supply your own microscope.
Well this just seems like a whole lot of sunk cost.
So far I am enjoying Fallout 3 more than I enjoyed Fallout: New Vegas, which may or may not be a controversial opinion?
I am only a few hours into 3, however, and I very likely could have a chip on my shoulder about New Vegas because I've started so many playthroughs that the first 2-4 hours is such a chore now.
The problem in New Vegas is that you DON'T have a chip on your shoulder (or anywhere else on your person). In fact, that's the MacGuffin that drives most of the plot.
we have a very large water reservoir that is much larger than it needs to be
it was dammed up before there was any electricity export and import to speak of, save for some very modest stuff with sweden
it's much too large to be filled up by the rainfall it gets, the idea was to have it as an equalizer: pump water back up into it when power was especially cheap, use that for prolonged dried periods to keep electricity from getting too expensive if that happens
but now we have the rest of europe for that use
not that solar power isn't kinda dumb here, we do have an easy fix for one of the biggest issues with solar power: that it only produces during the day
if all your power came from solar power, you would just literally not have any power at night. And storing energy is difficult.
Batteries are terrible. They're expensive and have a very limited life.
Compare it to a coal plant, where the energy storing is just putting the coal in a pile and not burning it right now. Or with petroleum where the energy storing is just not taking it out.
or with hydroelectric where you store energy by just not draining your lakes.
I wonder if it would be at all a workable idea to have a reservoir filled by running hydroelectric plants in reverse during the way, back down during the night. I've never heard of such super fast frequency switching but I wonder if it could work.
This idea is very viable and there are case studies for doing it with windfarms, who peak at the wrong time for daily energy use.
I know both Belgium and the Netherlands have seriously considered it.
There's a few pumped hydro schemes in Scotland. I know Ben Cruachan works this way:
The issue is that the public has tastes and lifestyle expectations and that those are shaped by corporate interests motivated by profit and not sustainability. Obviously you can't just retroactively criminalize these crimes against humanity and pollution profiteering, but maybe - and bear with me - maybe a modest start would be to choose one of those individuals at random every so often and have him dragged out in the street and shot and eaten?/quote]
If I became King Economics, Moneyman Supremus, the second thing I'd do after changing my title from Finance Minister to King Economics, Moneyman Supremus, would be to ban the phrase "safety first"
If I became King Economics the first thing I would do is appoint Ronya Viceroy of Responsible Economics.
The second thing I would do would be to build a yacht made of solid gold.
You may want to swap the order of those things.
No, he needs to appoint Ronya first. If he waits till after the yacht, he'll be on the bottom of the sea before he appoints anyone!
You could totally make a gold yacht which floated.
Mojo Anglin' for that job in deebs' cabinet
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The issue is that the public has tastes and lifestyle expectations and that those are shaped by corporate interests motivated by profit and not sustainability. Obviously you can't just retroactively criminalize these crimes against humanity and pollution profiteering, but maybe - and bear with me - maybe a modest start would be to choose one of those individuals at random every so often and have him dragged out in the street and shot and eaten?
Tim's Modest Proposal
It wouldn't be very environmentally-conscious of us to just let the body go to waste, would it?
We just need the Rock to rock bottom all the science nerds that don't do science well enough. Then the rest will be super productive because they will be scared that he will say they eat strudel or that he will ask them what their name is.
I keep reading "rock bottom" as being some Rock-specific form of power bottoming or something and I'm
fairly confident
that's not what it is.
if you aren't into that you definitely don't want to hear about the people's elbow
And you definitely don't want to smell what the rock is cooking
The public is so overwhelmingly anti science and thinks nasa takes up like 20% of the countries budget in polls. Lets convince 1 guy in charge of a grant that something obscure is necessary to save humanity, instead of a bunch of mouth breathers who are going to donate to anti-vaxxer and fountain of youth quacks.
I don't have much more faith in what most nerds would fund, either
a lot of important science is stunningly boring unremarkable stuff that ends up finding out "well that didn't work"
It's not even that. Even someone with an advanced degree in a science field is still going to be hard pressed to differentiate between two similar, but distinct approaches to a given problem outside of their field.
The issue is that the public has tastes and lifestyle expectations and that those are shaped by corporate interests motivated by profit and not sustainability. Obviously you can't just retroactively criminalize these crimes against humanity and pollution profiteering, but maybe - and bear with me - maybe a modest start would be to choose one of those individuals at random every so often and have him dragged out in the street and shot?
A common misconception. A narrowly tailored constitutional amendment would allow us to retroactively criminalize them. Also, while it was absolutely the right thing to do, we played pretty fast and loose with the law when it came to Nazis anyways, so there is established precedent.
We should make something like a Patreon but for science, where the general public can directly fund research projects as an alternative to the normal grant process.
There are several crowdfunding kickstarter like enterprises designed to finance science projects.
There are some really bad things about this.
1) The crowdfunding kickstarter movement grossly misunderstands the amount of money required to run a full time research laboratory that can produce publication quality data. I.E. You will see them fund small projects to the tune of 100k or so. This is chump change for a laboratory and would cover one tech's salary and some reagents for a year.
2) The crowdfunding kickstarter movement gives citizens the idea that government funding is not important if it can be supplanted by crowdfunding. Which is an untenable position. The only way science will ever recover is if governments increase investment in science.
3) The crowdfunding kickstarter movement is frequently in love with the "gentleman scientist" trope which really only supports a very specific and very rich type of person to do science.
4) There is one guy named Ethan Perlstein who says he is an indy scientist but really he is just running a standard biotech startup. He is like Silicon Valley for scientists.
The issue is that the public has tastes and lifestyle expectations and that those are shaped by corporate interests motivated by profit and not sustainability. Obviously you can't just retroactively criminalize these crimes against humanity and pollution profiteering, but maybe - and bear with me - maybe a modest start would be to choose one of those individuals at random every so often and have him dragged out in the street and shot and eaten?
Tim's Modest Proposal
It wouldn't be very environmentally-conscious of us to just let the body go to waste, would it?
The thing about regulation is that it often has to be long term to be effective
I kind of think that this is one of the reasons that so much ire gets directed at the EU. A lot of EU agreements take longer than a typical administrative term before the effects really start to bite, which causes people to think that this legislation has crept up on them in some way
Having said that, I doubt there would still be North Sea cod without such regulation
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Counterpoint: According to XKCD, I can just buy a lab coat and fleece suckers.
The public is so overwhelmingly anti science and thinks nasa takes up like 20% of the countries budget in polls. Lets convince 1 guy in charge of a grant that something obscure is necessary to save humanity, instead of a bunch of mouth breathers who are going to donate to anti-vaxxer and fountain of youth quacks.
I don't have much more faith in what most nerds would fund, either
a lot of important science is stunningly boring unremarkable stuff that ends up finding out "well that didn't work"
It's not even that. Even someone with an advanced degree in a science field is still going to be hard pressed to differentiate between two similar, but distinct approaches to a given problem outside of their field.
What if the system were set up such that other notable, respected individuals in the field could comment on which projects would be the most funding-worthy?
Yeah, you're not going to get a lot of pledges for your obscure physics project that most PhDs can't understand on your own, but if Stephen Hawking and Neil deGrasse Tyson each gave it 5-stars you suddenly have a lot of nerds throwing money at it.
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I mean seriously, we're not lying
People will fuck you here just for the way you talk
All "GO" so far, though 3rd launch attempts are notoriously and historically unlucky when it comes to holds / delays >_>
How dumb are farmers? I can get all the wind I need just by going outside. Why would anyone buy the wind they grow?
fairly confident
that's not what it is.
wahh wahh we dont have any water
lol idiots
You get to LIVE, motherfucker.
Though I guess we could just offshore t-shirt production to Malaysia...
I am living now and you don't have any of my money.
Now throw in some kind of video newsletter and a tshirt and we're talking.
https://experiment.com/
This gives the impression that they know what they're doing is wrong, which isn't really always a given. I feel like most of the people in those positions just legitimately believe that's the way the world works. What we need to do is make the world stop working that way.
Awww!
Then I must shed my prior habit of readily changing my av.
This narwhal must go on.
But, you know ... he's got the right spirit, this narwhal, doesn't he?
His time on this Earth may be temporary, but it has indeed "been real."
Lest We Forget, Deebaser. He lived, and he was, no matter what they do to him.
Lest We Forget.
We should just get a big knife and cut them off from the back of the country and send them out to see. Then they'll have all the water they want!
what if we instead of trying to rely on consumers or corporations, just bloody regulate things
tax the bad stuff more and people will buy less of them, no relying on changing whims needed
I will offer dick pics. You can look at my dick.
You have to supply your own microscope.
I am only a few hours into 3, however, and I very likely could have a chip on my shoulder about New Vegas because I've started so many playthroughs that the first 2-4 hours is such a chore now.
Tim's Modest Proposal
I know he sent me a picture last night. Uber cute. Much approve
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my estate will totally sue you when I do die
I'll put that in my will
I'm going to fund the fuck out of some projects!
Well this just seems like a whole lot of sunk cost.
Goodbye, earth.
I lold.
The problem in New Vegas is that you DON'T have a chip on your shoulder (or anywhere else on your person). In fact, that's the MacGuffin that drives most of the plot.
There's a few pumped hydro schemes in Scotland. I know Ben Cruachan works this way:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruachan_Dam
Mojo Anglin' for that job in deebs' cabinet
It wouldn't be very environmentally-conscious of us to just let the body go to waste, would it?
And you definitely don't want to smell what the rock is cooking
twitch.tv/tehsloth
It's not even that. Even someone with an advanced degree in a science field is still going to be hard pressed to differentiate between two similar, but distinct approaches to a given problem outside of their field.
A common misconception. A narrowly tailored constitutional amendment would allow us to retroactively criminalize them. Also, while it was absolutely the right thing to do, we played pretty fast and loose with the law when it came to Nazis anyways, so there is established precedent.
i have so much to learn!
Politicians hate this low emissions energy producing desalinization process!
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
just move farther away from it.
To use on your penis? That's uncomfortable bragging.
There are several crowdfunding kickstarter like enterprises designed to finance science projects.
There are some really bad things about this.
1) The crowdfunding kickstarter movement grossly misunderstands the amount of money required to run a full time research laboratory that can produce publication quality data. I.E. You will see them fund small projects to the tune of 100k or so. This is chump change for a laboratory and would cover one tech's salary and some reagents for a year.
2) The crowdfunding kickstarter movement gives citizens the idea that government funding is not important if it can be supplanted by crowdfunding. Which is an untenable position. The only way science will ever recover is if governments increase investment in science.
3) The crowdfunding kickstarter movement is frequently in love with the "gentleman scientist" trope which really only supports a very specific and very rich type of person to do science.
4) There is one guy named Ethan Perlstein who says he is an indy scientist but really he is just running a standard biotech startup. He is like Silicon Valley for scientists.
Better to go to waist than waste.
I kind of think that this is one of the reasons that so much ire gets directed at the EU. A lot of EU agreements take longer than a typical administrative term before the effects really start to bite, which causes people to think that this legislation has crept up on them in some way
Having said that, I doubt there would still be North Sea cod without such regulation
What if the system were set up such that other notable, respected individuals in the field could comment on which projects would be the most funding-worthy?
Yeah, you're not going to get a lot of pledges for your obscure physics project that most PhDs can't understand on your own, but if Stephen Hawking and Neil deGrasse Tyson each gave it 5-stars you suddenly have a lot of nerds throwing money at it.